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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by PeterMac on 09.01.14 12:13

It turns out that Sharon Leal thinks that the McCanns are being accused of Murder.
So her statement that they are innocent of this is therefore something most sane people would agree with

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Post by Daisy on 09.01.14 12:16

@PeterMac wrote:It turns out that Sharon Leal thinks that the McCanns are being accused of Murder.
So her statement that they are innocent of this is therefore something most sane people would agree with
Did she reply to your e-mail PeterMac?

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by tigger on 09.01.14 12:33

@PeterMac wrote:It turns out that Sharon Leal thinks that the McCanns are being accused of Murder.
So her statement that they are innocent of this is therefore something most sane people would agree with

That's what I was pondering lately:

Imo - going on how they behave and what they say:
They clearly don't feel guilty
They dislike having to go over the same story concerning Maddie - would rather talk about themselves
They feel hard done by - being made responsible for the absence of Maddie
They behaved as if  the adulation and celebrity status was no less than they deserved
They reserved their hatred and fury for those who called them to account and those who found evidence to contradict their official story (not for the ábductor).

In short, in the aftermath they behaved as if relieved from an onerous duty. Free at last.

I don't think they murdered Maddie but I do think they didn't expect to come back from Portugal with her either. Too many things were prepared and I for one wouldn't chose Gerry to help me in an emergency. For that you'd need someone who can think on their feet, not someone who needs to control every little detail. So the prepared photographs, the creche records, the two nannies, the curious compliance of MW to fit the events to their story were in place way too quick even had they had a week to prepare.
Something happened and they know exactly what. Gerry said that the circumstances were such that he could not physically have been present. That is a most curious remark.
Kate knows what happens, she was there she says. But she won't say.

All my opinion   winkwink

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by Daisy on 09.01.14 12:37

That's pretty much my opinion too Tigger.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by PeterMac on 09.01.14 12:56

@Daisy wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:It turns out that Sharon Leal thinks that the McCanns are being accused of Murder.
So her statement that they are innocent of this is therefore something most sane people would agree with
Did she reply to your e-mail PeterMac?
Yes. Twice. I hope to engage her in conversation, but doubt she will wish to address the many issues

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by jeanmonroe on 09.01.14 13:22

@PeterMac wrote:
@Daisy wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:It turns out that Sharon Leal thinks that the McCanns are being accused of Murder.
So her statement that they are innocent of this is therefore something most sane people would agree with
Did she reply to your e-mail PeterMac?
Yes. Twice. I hope to engage her in conversation, but doubt she will wish to address the many issues

He, he.

Ask her how badly the shutters were 'smashed' as opined by KM, after she had been 'looking at them' for 5 HOURS, to Jon Corner at 3am, 4th May 2007.

And who does she think was the 'last' person to 'see' a live Madeleine?

OK i'm getting boring now, but could you ask her if she has read any published PJ files or any books written about this case?

Or if all her proclaimations are based, soley, on 'hearsay'?

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by Guest on 09.01.14 13:27

@tigger wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:It turns out that Sharon Leal thinks that the McCanns are being accused of Murder.
So her statement that they are innocent of this is therefore something most sane people would agree with

That's what I was pondering lately:

Imo - going on how they behave and what they say:
They clearly don't feel guilty
They dislike having to go over the same story concerning Maddie - would rather talk about themselves
They feel hard done by - being made responsible for the absence of Maddie
They behaved as if  the adulation and celebrity status was no less than they deserved
They reserved their hatred and fury for those who called them to account and those who found evidence to contradict their official story (not for the ábductor).

In short, in the aftermath they behaved as if relieved from an onerous duty. Free at last.

I don't think they murdered Maddie but I do think they didn't expect to come back from Portugal with her either. Too many things were prepared and I for one wouldn't chose Gerry to help me in an emergency. For that you'd need someone who can think on their feet, not someone who needs to control every little detail. So the prepared photographs, the creche records, the two nannies, the curious compliance of MW to fit the events to their story were in place way too quick even had they had a week to prepare.
Something happened and they know exactly what. Gerry said that the circumstances were such that he could not physically have been present. That is a most curious remark.
Kate knows what happens, she was there she says. But she won't say.

All my opinion   winkwink

The most favourable chain of events I can dream up is that she was terminally ill and they took the twins to Portugal to avoid them seeing her in her final days. Relating this tale to selected individuals may or may not be enough to bring them "onside".

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Post by Guest on 09.01.14 13:35

Clay Regazzoni wrote:The most favourable chain of events I can dream up is that she was terminally ill and they took the twins to Portugal to avoid them seeing her in her final days. Relating this tale to selected individuals may or may not be enough to bring them "onside".
Lots of children, tragically, are terminally ill but their parents don't hide the body then fake an abduction....then tell the twins a monster took their sister and given them presents from their missing sibling.  nah

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Post by Guest on 09.01.14 13:39

@admin wrote:
Clay Regazzoni wrote:The most favourable chain of events I can dream up is that she was terminally ill and they took the twins to Portugal to avoid them seeing her in her final days. Relating this tale to selected individuals may or may not be enough to bring them "onside".
Lots of children, tragically, are terminally ill but their parents don't hide the body then fake an abduction....then tell the twins a monster took their sister and given them presents from their missing sibling.  nah

Yeah, I know. But if they behaved like normal people I wouldn't be typing this now.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by Daisy on 09.01.14 13:42

@PeterMac wrote:
@Daisy wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:It turns out that Sharon Leal thinks that the McCanns are being accused of Murder.
So her statement that they are innocent of this is therefore something most sane people would agree with
Did she reply to your e-mail PeterMac?
Yes. Twice. I hope to engage her in conversation, but doubt she will wish to address the many issues
Maybe she won't but it's still good news to know you got such a quick response. Hopefully she'll be a bit better informed now. Good luck with future correspondence.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by ultimaThule on 09.01.14 13:44

Clay Regazzoni wrote:< snip >
The most favourable chain of events I can dream up is that she was terminally ill and they took the twins to Portugal to avoid them seeing her in her final days. Relating this tale to selected individuals may or may not be enough to bring them "onside".

 wft   That would be 'favourable'???    bigshock    In my book leaving a terminally ill child to die alone while her parents took her siblings on a 'family holiday' abroad would make them heartless monsters of the kind I believe the McCanns to be.

If Madeleine McCann suffered from any serious illness I have no doubt it would have been used as another marketing ploy and displayed on a whiteboard as part of the wee one's powerpoint presentations.

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Post by Guest on 09.01.14 13:53

@ultimaThule wrote:

 wft   That would be 'favourable'???   

Compared to some of the alternatives?

I'm just an amateur at this, it was the best I could come up with!

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Post by Guest on 09.01.14 13:53

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@admin wrote:
Clay Regazzoni wrote:The most favourable chain of events I can dream up is that she was terminally ill and they took the twins to Portugal to avoid them seeing her in her final days. Relating this tale to selected individuals may or may not be enough to bring them "onside".
Lots of children, tragically, are terminally ill but their parents don't hide the body then fake an abduction....then tell the twins a monster took their sister and given them presents from their missing sibling.  nah

Yeah, I know. But if they behaved like normal people I wouldn't be typing this now.
They also wouldn't take cadaverine to Portugal to plant behind the sofa and in the hire car.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by Doug D on 09.01.14 13:54

Posted at the bottom is ITV's response to my precis of my complaint about the programme.
I mentioned the ‘brilliant experts’ being so knowledgeable with the benefit of hindsight, Sharons '100% innocent' declaration, with nothing to back this up, no comment about body language, facial expressions or anything, other than that he is reading from a script, which is the positive sign apparently and that she does not even explain what they are 100% innocent of!
In the context of the programme it seems to be a complete misfit unless some proper analysis is carried out with full explanations, but this does not happen.
Apparent lack of research into the McCann’s body language over the last seven years, nobody knows what the McCann’s are innocent or guilty of up to now, much speculation, but nothing has been tested in a Court of Law, all cases to date being settled out of court.
This seems to be irresponsible journalism of the highest order, especially with the Amaral libel trial still continuing in Portugal at the present time, the outcome of which could possibly be swayed by your programme.
With the further revelations today of the apparent links between the McCann’s and the production company, as a viewer I am disappointed that such a biased and inappropriate point of view should pass through your editorial team for broadcast and that such a dogmatic declaration that they are innocent should be hoisted on the accepting viewing public, most of whom would not appreciate that the statement made no reference to any particular event and would take it at face value.
An apology to viewers, explaining what on earth Dr Teal was talking about, together with a better researched programme, with a more balanced viewpoint would seem appropriate in the not too distant future.

They reply as follows:

Thank you for contacting ITV and your comments on the programme The Lying Game -Crimes That Fooled Britain.
The programme was about criminals who fooled the police and public into thinking that they were not suspects in crimes that they were later convicted for. The programme featured a number of experts who specialise in examining 'the science of lying'. These experts pointed out tell-tale signs of lying that betrayed convicted liars such as Ian Huntley and Stuart Hazell.
In the part of the programme that referred to the McCanns, the expert Sharon Leal, described a number of people such as the McCanns who were, at times, considered to be suspects. Leal goes on to say "There's been a lot of controversy about whether or not the McCanns are innocent or guilty. My point of view is that they are 100% innocent." Leal clearly expresses this point as her opinion. Furthermore it has been confirmed by the investigating authorities that the McCanns are no longer considered suspects.
We are therefore satisfied that we have complied with our legal and regulatory obligations in relation to this programme.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by Cristobell on 09.01.14 14:06

Well done Doug, even if it was a disappointing reply. We can at least relax in the knowledge that there will shortly be some very red faces. They have clearly relied on the MSM for their research, which is not very impressive and any future programs will be tainted by the memory that they got this one so very wrong.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by tasprin on 09.01.14 14:09

Britain has certainly been fooled & the public have been duped again. It seems Dr Sharon Leal's '100%' innocent comment was just her personal opinion and not based on her body language expertise as touted by the programme.  She has responded to someone on Facebook, claiming Amaral is corrupt & spouting nonsense. She says she ' based her opinion on 'facts' ie not the analysis'. This programme should be binned.


Babalou ‏@B_balou 2h
@vivienmiss In the comments of post started by Amanda Tennyson re The Lying Game https://www.facebook.com/groups/507450985946255/?fref=ts … #mccann posts made bout an hour ago

Babalou ‏@B_balou 3h
Su Laws says she has now received another rude e-mail from [Sharon] Leal slagging her & Amaral with a disclaimer so she can't repost it! #mccann  [Looks like Su Laws is gagged from repeating Leal's 'opinion']

Toast ‏@jontaito 3h
Surely a "body language expert" would be more effective being ignorant of a subject's history? Certainly shouldn't use "facts". #mccann

Babalou ‏@B_balou 3h
@rebeccasherl @lewscammon Because she should have given her opinion based on b/l analysis, not on her preconceptions of #mccann case!

Babalou ‏@B_balou 3h
@rebeccasherl But she says she based her opinion on 'facts' ie not the analysis she was meant to give. What cases has she worked on? #mccann

Babalou ‏@B_balou 3h
Sharon Leal says that Amaral is 'spouting nonsense'. Hardly an unbiased expert, is she? #mccann

Babalou ‏@B_balou 3h
@tonybooth20 Errm, no! Can't believe what she's said - based her opinion on #mccann on her belief that Amaral is corrupt, not body language

Babalou ‏@B_balou 3h
@WendyM53 But basing it on the 'facts' of the case! Might as well have asked any of us. #mccann

Babalou ‏@B_balou 3h
Leal was asked to form an opinion on body language, so why does she says she based it on the facts of the case? Anyone can do that
. #mccann

Babalou ‏@B_balou 4h
@QuietSherry This woman has just outed herself as no better than the lying #mccann trolls on here

Babalou ‏@B_balou 4h
@LarryPKay Her reply V revealing - she's given herself away completely. Very unprofessional - in #mccann pocket & slagging Amaral.

Duper's Delight DDP ‏@LarryPKay 4h
@B_balou Now that's enlightening! Ms Leal also likes Hacked Off. Hmmmmmmm #mccann

Babalou ‏@B_balou 4h
Thought her opinion was meant to be based on body language analysis, not studying the facts!!! #mccann

Babalou ‏@B_balou 4h
Leal say she has formed her opinion that #mccann are innocent on the verifiable facts surrounding the case, rather than media conjecture.Babalou ‏@B_balou 4h

Babalou ‏@B_balou 4h Ms Leal says Amaral has an axe to grind (because he was sacked for telling lies to the press about the enquiry - she'a a #mccann troll!

Babalou ‏@B_balou 4h
Please see what Su Laws put on Contro FB about an hour ago - she got a reply from Ms, Leal, & she speaks just like our pro #mccann s here.

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@w_nicht I think that qualifying emphasis of "100%" gave the game away. It was ramming home,"I'm an expert! The #mccann s are innocent"

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by aquila on 09.01.14 14:11

@Cristobell wrote:Well done Doug, even if it was a disappointing reply.  We can at least relax in the knowledge that there will shortly be some very red faces.  They have clearly relied on the MSM for their research, which is not very impressive and any future programs will be tainted by the memory that they got this one so very wrong.
Seconded Cristobell but I want to add that this programme would have been heavily edited. Perhaps Leal said a lot more and only got a snip by someone in authority who had a reason to include the '100% innocent' remark and nothing else. Make's ya wonder who decided to include the McCanns in the first place duntit.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by tigger on 09.01.14 14:23

@ Clay Reggazoni

Whatever they've done, they've squared it with what passes for their conscience. As pointed out, these are not your average parents so the general expectation of behaviour and sentiment doesn't apply here imo.

What I find interesting and have lost the reference again (somewhere in McCannfiles smilie ) is that it wasn't until around the 17th when the Ltd. Co. was launched that Maddie was said to be fully alive. So imo that implies that a previous plan was ditched in favour of a better one.
We mustn't forget that a lot of information from TM was reactive - i.e. reacting to what was happening in the media. Calling in the press had paid off a thousand times over their expectations imo. Consequently, why stop the flow of money and goodies by accepting Maddie could be dead? When the public wanted a living one. Forever it seems.

For some reason that bottle of cadaverine is a popular concept. Doesn't explain why they'd empty it in the car though. So no, I don't go for that complication at all. Something happened in 5a that shouldn't have happened. Together with the farcical performance of the evening of the 3rd, no wonder they were in a state. None of that should have happened the way it did and it took quite a bit of PR and string-pulling behind the scenes to adjust it. But the great and wonderful FO/Blair/Brown made it all right within about 24 hours in my estimation.

Again all imo.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 09.01.14 14:33

ITV, included in reply to questions asked about their programme, The Lying Game -Crimes That Fooled Britain.

said:

"Furthermore it has been confirmed by the investigating authorities that the McCanns are no longer considered suspects."
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"FURTHERMORE IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED"?

Are ITV sure they can back that statement/assertion up?

The PJ have 're-opened' their invesigation into the disappearance' of Madeleine McCann.

Are ITV stating, catergorically, that the new PJ investigation team have said that THEY do NOT 'consider' the McCanns as 'suspects'?

When did ITV contact the PJ to confirm this and, more importantly, WHEN did the new PJ investigation team publicly confirm this??

Otherwise, ITV's claim that the 'investigating authorities, and there are only 2, the PJ and the MET, have confirmed that the McCanns are no longer considered suspects' will, i'm afraid, turn out to be, like Dr Leal's claim, 'only in THEIR opinion'

I don't believe that ITV has access to the NEW Portuguese re-opened investigation and therefore cannot possibly state that their 'assertion' that 'the McCanns are no longer considered suspects' IS 100% 'true'!

Can they?

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by Woofer on 09.01.14 14:59

"Babalou ‏@B_balou 4h Ms Leal says Amaral has an axe to grind (because he was sacked for telling lies to the press about the enquiry - she'a a #mccann troll! "

Oh dear, what an idiot Leal is - just shows how ignorant she is about the case and has probably just been fed the usual pro mccann lies - most probably from the Centre for Missing People also based at the Uni. So Goncalo was sacked was he ???? WRONG. Goncalo has an axe to grind has he ???? WRONG.  By saying these things about Goncalo she has shown her true colours and obviously knows b***** all about the case. 

Pompey was my Uni (over 20 years ago), in fact a relative I`m not in contact with anymore still works there as a lecturer. Wish I was still in contact, maybe I`ll get in touch.  Just texted my friend who used to work in the Psychology dept there many years ago but she cannot remember Sharon Leal.  Also weird is another friend`s daughter works for Shine but was not involved in that particular programme. 

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Post by Guest on 09.01.14 15:43

@tigger wrote:
For some reason that bottle of cadaverine is a popular concept. Doesn't explain why they'd empty it in the car though. So no, I don't go for that complication at all. Something happened in 5a that shouldn't have happened. Together with the farcical performance of the evening of the 3rd, no wonder they were in a state. None of that should have happened the way it did and it took quite a bit of  PR and string-pulling behind the scenes to adjust it. But the great and wonderful FO/Blair/Brown made it all right within about 24 hours in my estimation.

Again all imo.

Do I think the cadaver evidence was planted? No. Do I think the idea is inconceivable? Again, no.

The finding of evidence in both the apartment and the hire car, with the time gap in between, is probably the single most inexplicable aspect of this case. We can only hope that the truth is one day revealed.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by Woofer on 09.01.14 15:50

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@tigger wrote:
For some reason that bottle of cadaverine is a popular concept. Doesn't explain why they'd empty it in the car though. So no, I don't go for that complication at all. Something happened in 5a that shouldn't have happened. Together with the farcical performance of the evening of the 3rd, no wonder they were in a state. None of that should have happened the way it did and it took quite a bit of  PR and string-pulling behind the scenes to adjust it. But the great and wonderful FO/Blair/Brown made it all right within about 24 hours in my estimation.

Again all imo.

Do I think the cadaver evidence was planted? No. Do I think the idea is inconceivable? Again, no.

The finding of evidence in both the apartment and the hire car, with the time gap in between, is probably the single most inexplicable aspect of this case. We can only hope that the truth is one day revealed.


In freezer storage could explain this.  Who had access to rental properties in the area?

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Post by Guest on 09.01.14 15:57

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
Do I think the cadaver evidence was planted? No. Do I think the idea is inconceivable? Again, no.

The finding of evidence in both the apartment and the hire car, with the time gap in between, is probably the single most inexplicable aspect of this case. We can only hope that the truth is one day revealed.
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The real reason why IMO Birch is a babbling idiot: claiming that the PJ planted cadaver scent in the hired car to force a confession .... If anything DID complicate this case it's indeed that time gap between disappearance and car rental. And it still seems that the gap can only be closed with a freezer ... Now where have we heard that before?

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by Hongkong Phooey on 09.01.14 16:05

@jeanmonroe wrote:ITV, included in reply to questions asked about their programme, The Lying Game -Crimes That Fooled Britain.

said:

"Furthermore it has been confirmed by the investigating authorities that the McCanns are no longer considered suspects."
___________________________________________________________________

Are ITV sure they can back that statement/assertion up?

The PJ have 're-opened' their invesigation into the disappearance' of Madeleine McCann.

Are ITV stating, catergorically, that the new PJ investigation team have said that THEY do NOT 'consider' the McCanns as 'suspects'?

When did ITV contact the PJ to confirm this and, more importantly, WHEN did the new PJ investigation team publicly confirm this??

Otherwise, ITV's claim that the 'investigating authorities, and there are only 2, the PJ and the MET, have confirmed that the McCanns are no longer considered suspects' will, i'm afraid, turn out to be, like Dr Leal's claim, 'only in THEIR opinion'

I don't believe that ITV has access to the NEW Portuguese re-opened investigation and therefore cannot possibly state that their 'assertion' that 'the McCanns are no longer considered suspects' IS 100% 'true'!

Can they?

I think we should be more worried that they are right and all the signs so far (from the UK) is that they are. If we take their checking at face value then this is a whitewash of colossal scale, however are the investigating team liable to inform a national tv station if the McC's were still on the radar, highly unlikely. SY are definitely happy for that message to be put out though.

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Re: The Lying Game: Crimes That Fooled Britain .... Tuesday, January 7th, 2014 - ITV at 9:00pm,

Post by sonic72 on 09.01.14 16:55

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