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Post by ultimaThule on 25.11.13 21:32

I seem to recall a similar case earlier this year, also tried in Devon, where a similar sentence was handed down.  Is this case 'news' or is it something from the archives?

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Post by Daisy on 25.11.13 21:40

@ultimaThule wrote:I seem to recall a similar case earlier this year, also tried in Devon, where a similar sentence was handed down.  Is this case 'news' or is it something from the archives?
Yes it's a current news story. Perhaps you're thinking of this case?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-24851195

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Post by Daisy on 25.11.13 22:18

You're not kidding UltimaThule. Devon seems to be a hotbed for pedophiles. All these cases are from this year alone. bigshock

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Post by Tony Bennett on 25.11.13 22:33

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You're not kidding UltimaThule. Devon seems to be a hotbed for pedophiles. All these cases are from this year alone. bigshock
Paedophiles 'need help', it's just a treatable illness:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/10149574/Paedophilia-is-a-treatable-illness.html

and the Catholic Church's 'take' on the sexual abuse of children:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/paedophilia-not-a-criminal-condition-says-leading-catholic-8537193.html

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Post by ultimaThule on 26.11.13 2:53

Those articles are typical tosh from paedophile apologists, Tony, and no more than can be expected from those who, for reasons known only to themselves, refuse to acknowledge that this particular personality and behaviour disorder is not an 'illness' or a 'condition' which can be cured and that, short of incarcerating paedophile offenders for the duration of their natural lives, all that can be done to protect infants and children from sexual abuse by family members, others persons within their social circle, and strangers, is to hope that paedophiles will respond to therapies which are intended to reduce the frequency of their offending but which, in reality, can enable them to discover ever more devious ways of hiding their abhorrent predilictions.

Statistics have proved hope is not enough and until such time as neuropathological research identifies ways in which certain receptors in the brain can be inhibited or turned off, or can create/stimulate neurons and pathways where none exist, we are condemned to co-exist with paedophiles and those other deviants who permeate every level of our society and are a danger to us all.

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Post by ultimaThule on 26.11.13 3:36

@Daisy wrote:You're not kidding UltimaThule. Devon seems to be a hotbed for pedophiles. All these cases are from this year alone. bigshock
Those examples merely represent a few of the paedophiles who've been sentenced to more than 15 years by Devon's courts this year, Daisy, and if we were to list those offenders who've been given 10-12, 5-10, 1 month-5 years, suspended sentences, probation/community orders, fines, cautions etc, this will become a very long thread indeed. 

As I hesitate to use words such as 'worthy' and 'deserving' in connection with individuals who, in the estimation of rightminded folk, are lower than the scum of the earth, suffice it say here's a case where I suspect the offender has learned his lesson  http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/Combe-Martin-man-defied-order-seek-child-abuse/story-20086657-detail/story.html and, unknown to the probation service, has purchased a new computer on which to practise the skills he learned when attending therapy sessions with others who share his unsavoury enjoyment of pornographic images of infants and children.

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Don't peadophiles need help?

Post by Romario on 26.11.13 8:52

Whilst I'm definitely not one for excusing people's behaviour by saying they have a condition or an illness or something, and whilst I can see that treatments for peadophillia are more than likely completely ineffective, isn't it a bit silly to just dismiss peadophiles as being scum of the earth who need to be eradicated? It seems to me now that paedophillia is endemic, that lots of so-called normal people are practising it and that maybe they do need some help. My feeling is that peadophiles feel aggrieved and that the more people simply write them off as scum, the more determined and devious they will become to cover everything up at all costs.

One question that has always interested me is, when people have sympathy/hatred for an offender (in any crime) is that because they can understand their motives or because they can't understand their motives. Personally with peadophiles, I just don't get what it's about. Maybe that's why I'm willing to be (slightly) sympathetic.

I also think that eventually, and very soon in fact, the virtual reality sex era will begin; and so in this case, if a peadophile was just acting out their fantasies without harming children, would that be acceptable?

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Post by notlongnow on 26.11.13 9:05

I think it can be halted but not cured,a bit like drug or drink addiction.
Personally i think waiting for a paedo to relapse is to dodgy and castration by injection should be used.

To much damage is caused to the victims and families is not worth the risk imo.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 26.11.13 9:42

@Romario wrote:Whilst I'm definitely not one for excusing people's behaviour by saying they have a condition or an illness or something,

You just have done - below

and whilst I can see that treatments for peadophillia are more than likely completely ineffective,

Precisely - which is why we should lock them up if they commit crimes and supervise them extremely closely in the community once they are released. This happens now; the police categorise all released sex offenders as 'high', 'medium' or 'low' risk and supervise them accordingly. However, the most dangerous, determined and manipulative of them manage to evade even the highest level of supervision and go on to commit the most appalling crimes agaisnt children
 

isn't it a bit silly to just dismiss peadophiles as being scum of the earth who need to be eradicated? It seems to me now that paedophillia is endemic, that lots of so-called normal people are practising it

A lot of evil things are becoming more widespread in today's society. The people who do them are not 'normal'; society is becoming more abnormal and dysfunctional - and tolerating things that should never be tolerated
 

and that maybe they do need some help.

No-one has yet discovered an effective treatment or 'cure' - as 'notiongrow' has rightly said, becoming a child-molestor or a viewer of child sexual abuse images is a form of addiction, and once an addiction - whatever it is - has taken root inside the mind of a human being, it is extremely difficult to remove and uproot it

My feeling is that peadophiles feel aggrieved and that the more people simply write them off as scum, the more determined and devious they will become to cover everything up at all costs.

If you are right - and you may well be - all the more reason to protect society from these people who are prepared to put their own utterly selfish and wanton desires even above the need for safety and protection of young children

One question that has always interested me is, when people have sympathy/hatred for an offender (in any crime) is that because they can understand their motives or because they can't understand their motives. Personally with paedophiles, I just don't get what it's about.

Utter selfishness, putting their perverted desires above all else, blind to the harm they cause - and the desire to exert power over others and the sexual satisfaction they get from doing so

Maybe that's why I'm willing to be (slightly) sympathetic.

I also think that eventually, and very soon in fact, the virtual reality sex era will begin; and so in this case, if a peadophile was just acting out their fantasies without harming children, would that be acceptable?

It has been shown time and time again that people with fantasies of all kinds are more than capable of trying to realise them. Until he shot and killed 77 Norwegians, Anders Breivik just fantasised about killing people without doing so. Vincent Tabak once just fantasised about strangling women. Then, Joanna Yeates came home one evening, he had an opportunity, and acted out his fantasy. That's why there should be zero tolerance of child abuse images anywhere - yet it has become a multi-billion pound worldwide industry, out of control. And, bearing in mind the Vincent Tabak case (and many others), it would do a lot of good to ban images of people being strangled - and a good many other images too. And to take the case of the partner of Philomena McCann, Tony Rickwood, producing and circulating images of women drowning in quicksand...should that be allowed?

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Post by Romario on 26.11.13 10:44

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@Romario wrote:Whilst I'm definitely not one for excusing people's behaviour by saying they have a condition or an illness or something,

You just have done - below

I think I was trying to make the point that, there is a difference between saying someone has a condition (i.e. it's not their fault they do what they do) and accepting that we're all human, life can be tough, and maybe someone develops a bad habit, and though they must take responsibility for this, society might try and help them also.

and whilst I can see that treatments for peadophillia are more than likely completely ineffective,

Precisely - which is why we should lock them up if they commit crimes and supervise them extremely closely in the community once they are released. This happens now; the police categorise all released sex offenders as 'high', 'medium' or 'low' risk and supervise them accordingly. However, the most dangerous, determined and manipulative of them manage to evade even the highest level of supervision and go on to commit the most appalling crimes agaisnt children

I certainly wouldn't be against locking them all up, and for longer, as well as increasing supervision when out.
 

isn't it a bit silly to just dismiss peadophiles as being scum of the earth who need to be eradicated? It seems to me now that paedophillia is endemic, that lots of so-called normal people are practising it

A lot of evil things are becoming more widespread in today's society. The people who do them are not 'normal'; society is becoming more abnormal and dysfunctional - and tolerating things that should never be tolerated

I agree that society has become abnormal and dysfunctinal, but the problem is no one really believes in God, family values or anything to be honest, but that is just a consequnce of where we've come to as a society. I just think the horse has bolted on that score and can't be put back. And whilst we are an overtly sick society -- witness the unlimited range of anything goes porn on the internet -- isn't there an argument to be had to say that people of yore were always rather warped and wicked and that these things just went on in the dark?
 

and that maybe they do need some help.

No-one has yet discovered an effective treatment or 'cure' - as 'notiongrow' has rightly said, becoming a child-molestor or a viewer of child sexual abuse images is a form of addiction, and once an addiction - whatever it is - has taken root inside the mind of a human being, it is extremely difficult to remove and uproot it

I agree

My feeling is that peadophiles feel aggrieved and that the more people simply write them off as scum, the more determined and devious they will become to cover everything up at all costs.

If you are right - and you may well be - all the more reason to protect society from these people who are prepared to put their own utterly selfish and wanton desires even above the need for safety and protection of young children

I was just thinking that maybe drawing battle lines doesn't help, but then maybe that's wrong headed. Perhaps part of the kick of this crime is that it is illicit and even if society reached out an arm to these people they wouldn't accept it, preferring instead to play their game. Moroever I've often thought that should tabloid hysteria vis-a-vis peadophiles die down, they will only be encouraged to engage in it more, and clearly the same argument is valid here.

One question that has always interested me is, when people have sympathy/hatred for an offender (in any crime) is that because they can understand their motives or because they can't understand their motives. Personally with paedophiles, I just don't get what it's about.

Utter selfishness, putting their perverted desires above all else, blind to the harm they cause - and the desire to exert power over others and the sexual satisfaction they get from doing so

I see. I guess part of the problem for people like myself who haven't been soical workers/policemen etc, is that peadophillia has no real meaning: it's just an abstract concept. I'm sure if I was to see first hand the perpetrators, their actions and the damage that it does to the victim, I would become less dispassionate. I think the problem for the public is that they have more chance of relating to being a victim of say theft than being a victim of child abuse. I've often wondered if it wouldn't be a good idea to put (police confiscated) child rape videos on national TV; for like 9/11 or the Tsuanami, as outrageous as these clips would be, as sickening and depraved and soulless as it would be to watch them, it might just wake people up to taking the issue seriously. 


Maybe that's why I'm willing to be (slightly) sympathetic.

I also think that eventually, and very soon in fact, the virtual reality sex era will begin; and so in this case, if a peadophile was just acting out their fantasies without harming children, would that be acceptable?

It has been shown time and time again that people with fantasies of all kinds are more than capable of trying to realise them. Until he shot and killed 77 Norwegians, Anders Breivik just fantasised about killing people without doing so. Vincent Tabak once just fantasised about strangling women. Then, Joanna Yeates came home one evening, he had an opportunity, and acted out his fantasy. That's why there should be zero tolerance of child abuse images anywhere - yet it has become a multi-billion pound worldwide industry, out of control. And, bearing in mind the Vincent Tabak case (and many others), it would do a lot of good to ban images of people being strangled - and a good many other images too. And to take the case of the partner of Philomena McCann, Tony Rickwood, producing and circulating images of women drowning in quicksand...should that be allowed?

I don't know what to think about this. I have taught teenagers for a while now, and they will tell you their tastes in films, video games etc, and my God, they seem to enjoy the sickest of things. But I firmly believe that none of them will go on to do harm and that they know the difference between TV and real life. I think if you start questioning sick tastes in art then surely you run into problems. You could also argue that Shakespeare writes filth as do all crime writers; and I will admit that my interest in the Madeleine Mccann case is probably satisyfying some macabre interest in me more than anything else. Also I have a lot of sick things going on in my head too. 

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Post by aquila on 26.11.13 11:06

@rominio

I sincerely hope that you are called up for jury duty on a paedophile case.  That might change your 'abstract concept' opinion. In the meantime you could always google it (if you dare). There's a lot of information out there if you look for it. As a teacher I would have thought you'd be made aware of such crimes but perhaps I have that wrong and we have completely disconnected teachers who feel sympathy for paedophiles even though they claim not to know exactly what a paedophile is or does.

Just my opinion of course.

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Post by Mirage on 26.11.13 11:08

@ultimaThule wrote:Those articles are typical tosh from paedophile apologists, Tony, and no more than can be expected from those who, for reasons known only to themselves, refuse to acknowledge that this particular personality and behaviour disorder is not an 'illness' or a 'condition' which can be cured and that, short of incarcerating paedophile offenders for the duration of their natural lives, all that can be done to protect infants and children from sexual abuse by family members, others persons within their social circle, and strangers, is to hope that paedophiles will respond to therapies which are intended to reduce the frequency of their offending but which, in reality, can enable them to discover ever more devious ways of hiding their abhorrent predilictions.

Statistics have proved hope is not enough and until such time as neuropathological research identifies ways in which certain receptors in the brain can be inhibited or turned off, or can create/stimulate neurons and pathways where none exist, we are condemned to co-exist with paedophiles and those other deviants who permeate every level of our society and are a danger to us all.
This concurs with what I have been told by a relative who has done extensive work in the field. There is NO cure. The neural pathways that light up in a pathological brain on trigger words are quite different to the norm. Brain surgery of the future might address this but before we reach that point, a cultural shift will have taken care of matters.

Not only that, child pornography, despite Cameron's belated awakening, is entrenched and is not likely to go away because the appetite for it has been created. And just as we see people gorging themselves into morbid obesity, so the same can be applied to this situation

The problem is that paedophiles exist throughout society in such numbers that there is an insidious attempt to "normalise" them into main stream life. Hence PIE emerged in the 1970s and went underground because they needed to better organise their campaign for public acceptability behind the scenes. A softening up process has long since begun. Every now and then a head emerges above the sewage to call for lowering age consent. Debate. All quiet. Then up pops another head calling for the same, and so on.

Gangs and lone offenders are given draconian sentences (the cases quoted above) to appease. A sop to an angry crowd.

 Meanwhile, the ideological struggle goes on covertly. The aim is to condition society. The visible side of this movement is in the sexualisation of children at every level. Believe this or not, it will have become the NORM for sexual relations to occur between adults and "consenting" children in one or two generation's time.

That is why I appeal to all lurkers on this site to make their mark. We need hundreds of thousands singing from the same hymn sheet to have any hope of stopping the rot.

Whilst their is no cure, there can at least be barrier nursing - preferably in isolation units.

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Post by Daisy on 26.11.13 11:23

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@Daisy wrote:You're not kidding UltimaThule. Devon seems to be a hotbed for pedophiles. All these cases are from this year alone. bigshock
Those examples merely represent a few of the paedophiles who've been sentenced to more than 15 years by Devon's courts this year, Daisy, and if we were to list those offenders who've been given 10-12, 5-10, 1 month-5 years, suspended sentences, probation/community orders, fines, cautions etc, this will become a very long thread indeed. 

As I hesitate to use words such as 'worthy' and 'deserving' in connection with individuals who, in the estimation of rightminded folk, are lower than the scum of the earth, suffice it say here's a case where I suspect the offender has learned his lesson  http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/Combe-Martin-man-defied-order-seek-child-abuse/story-20086657-detail/story.html and, unknown to the probation service, has purchased a new computer on which to practise the skills he learned when attending therapy sessions with others who share his unsavoury enjoyment of pornographic images of infants and children.
I'm with you UT. We've only highlighted the cases that received lengthy sentences because let's face it, they're the exception to the rule. More often than not the sentences for pedophilia are unduly lenient and if we were to list all the other cases (in Devon alone) we'd be here all day.

I'm convinced there's an agenda afoot that concentrates on 'softening' our views towards pedophilia. It sickens me to the stomach. Aldous Huxley's Brave New World was meant to be a novel, not a blueprint for the 21st century.

@ Tony, I'm glad you're dealing with Romario's post. I've attempted to reply several times but had to delete. I can't help but feel anger towards anyone that feels even "slighty sympathetic" towards pedophiles.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 26.11.13 11:27

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This concurs with what I have been told by a relative who has done extensive work in the field. There is NO cure. The neural pathways that light up in a pathological brain on trigger words are quite different to the norm.

Not sure about the 'neural pathways', but maybe this is a scientific way of explaining nearly all of our addictions, whether child sexual abuse, alcohol, drugs, sex, gambling etc. - once we have developed what Romario classes as 'a bad habit', it puts down ever greater roots - like the most obstinate weed - you try and pull it up, but a tiny bit of root remains, and weeks later, it is full grown again
   

Brain surgery of the future might address this but before we reach that point, a cultural shift will have taken care of matters.

Not only that, child pornography, despite Cameron's belated awakening, is entrenched and is not likely to go away because the appetite for it has been created.

Fully agreed. Our local primary school, in common with a great many other infant schools, is teaching sexual awareness knowledge 'across all disciplines' (!) to 5-year-olds and upwards - there is 3 pages about this in the school handbook for parents. 

And just as we see people gorging themselves into morbid obesity, so the same can be applied to this situation

And addiction to food, otherwise known as 'greed'.

The problem is that paedophiles exist throughout society in such numbers that there is an insidious attempt to "normalise" them into main stream life. Hence PIE emerged in the 1970s and went underground because they needed to better organise their campaign for public acceptability behind the scenes. A softening up process has long since begun. Every now and then a head emerges above the sewage to call for lowering age consent. Debate. All quiet. Then up pops another head calling for the same, and so on.

Fully agreed. We have just had some bloke saying 'we must lower the age of consent to 15 because quite a lot of 14- and 15-year-olds are doing it'.

Gangs and lone offenders are given draconian sentences (the cases quoted above) to appease. A sop to an angry crowd.

I'm not with you on that one, Mirage. I see light sentences everywhere. A big bloke in Harlow took offence at a remark in a chip shop and felled a bloke to the ground with one blow to the head; his head split open on the floor and he was dead. Charged and found guilty of manslaughter, given 4 years in jail, out in 2. AND he had a record of previous convictions for violence as long as Jane Tanner's rogatory interviews. 

Meanwhile, the ideological struggle goes on covertly. The aim is to condition society.

OFCOM, the BBC and the British Board of Film Censors play their part. Jimmy Savile.

The visible side of this movement is in the sexualisation of children at every level. Believe this or not, it will have become the NORM for sexual relations to occur between adults and "consenting" children in one or two generations time.

If God doesn't bring the world to a close before then.

That is why I appeal to all lurkers on this site to make their mark. We need hundreds of thousands singing from the same hymn sheet to have any hope of stopping the rot.

The 'safermedia' organisation is a good place to start.

Whilst there is no cure, there can at least be barrier nursing - preferably in isolation units.

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Post by notlongnow on 26.11.13 11:29

Wonder if there are more paedos today than say 40 years ago,or are we just more aware of them now?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 26.11.13 11:32

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@ Tony, I'm glad you're dealing with Romario's post. I've attempted to reply several times but had to delete. I can't help but feel anger towards anyone that feels even "slighty sympathetic" towards pedophiles.
The best feature, perhaps the only good feature, of Romario's post is that he felt moved on a public forum to be honest.

To that extent, I am willing to give him credit i.e. for that honesty.

If he needs professional help, as he seems to be suggesting, then I hope he seeks it immediately - especially as I think he said he 'teaches young people'.

Most addicted people deny their addiction until they have reached the depth of a crisis.

The first step to anything remotely like a 'cure' is honesty - maybe we have witnessed a turning point in Romario's life...

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Post by Tony Bennett on 26.11.13 11:35

Yes, maybe that is the problem - we do not acknowledge our Maker.

Someone, I cannot recollect who, said: "Once people abandon belief in God, they will believe in anything".


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ETA:   Out of curiosity, I have just looked this up.

It seems that this is not a direct quote, but in fact an amalgam of two or three quotes from G K Chesterton:

http://www.chesterton.org/discover-chesterton/frequently-asked-questions/cease-to-worship/

The nearest to it is this quote from one of his 'Father Brown' stories: "The first effect of not believing in God is that you lose your common sense". ["The Oracle of the Dog" (1923)]

 

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Re: Devon paedophile: Four rapes, six indecent assaults, ONE MILLION child abuse images - and a 19-year jail sentence

Post by Guest on 26.11.13 11:40

Notlongnow, I'd say that it's just one of those topics that's more widely discussed nowadays. There were certainly lurking "dirty old men" (as they were called then) making a nuisance of themselves in places like cinemas and swimming baths when I was a child.
 
Nowadays we are of course more aware that the paedophiles who are hardest to detect are those known to the children, not strangers - and not always men either.
 
Tony, as an atheist, I do not agree that there is any connection between a lack of faith and the likelihood of believing in anything like paedophilia!

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Post by Swannie on 26.11.13 11:40

@aquila wrote:@romario

As a teacher I would have thought you'd be made aware of such crimes but perhaps I have that wrong and we have completely disconnected teachers who feel sympathy for paedophiles even though they claim not to know exactly what a paedophile is or does.

Just my opinion of course.
As a teacher in Nottingham, I can assure you we have to attend Safeguarding Training every two years and are made fully aware of paedophile crimes, symptoms to look for and how to handle victims. Working with children with mental health issues, I frequently see the results of these vile crimes and fail to see how anyone, Romario, can have the slightest sympathy for any paedophiles!

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Post by aquila on 26.11.13 11:50

@Swannie wrote:
@aquila wrote:@romario

As a teacher I would have thought you'd be made aware of such crimes but perhaps I have that wrong and we have completely disconnected teachers who feel sympathy for paedophiles even though they claim not to know exactly what a paedophile is or does.

Just my opinion of course.
As a teacher in Nottingham, I can assure you we have to attend Safeguarding Training every two years and are made fully aware of paedophile crimes, symptoms to look for and how to handle victims. Working with children with mental health issues, I frequently see the results of these vile crimes and fail to see how anyone, Romario, can have the slightest sympathy for any paedophiles!
Hi Swannie, I was being rather sarcastic in my post and I apologise. Of course teachers take this training which makes me wonder about the credibility of Romario.

Romario (aka Thomas Baden-Riess) has made some interesting comments on sympathy with Gerald McCann on Pat Brown's blog and interestingly describes himself and I quote (my underlining)

"Thomas Baden-Riess said... Lesley I agree with you, the question of how they cope psychologically with this farce is very interesting. I have to confess I often have nightmares/visions and horrible thoughts in which I kill someone,in a fit of temper/madness and my life turns into utter hell. But I do not know what my response would be: half the time I think I would hand myself in and hang myself; then again maybe I would justify the crime to myself and cover things up to save my own bacon.

I will happily confess to being narcisistic and sociopathic and psychopathic myself (this might explain why I sympathise with them), in fact I believe I'm probably very much at the edge of the spectrum; but I'm also incredibly empathetic too. So that tells me that all these concepts of narcissim, sociopathy, lack of empathy are truly difficult for me to get my head around. When you talk about Kate I would personally go for a middle line: yes, she fears for her own personal being and no, I don't think she really cared about Madeleine; but maybe she still feels some guilt for the whole sorry incident, as evidenced by when she told Amaral of her dream. It seemed to me that was a half-hearted attempt at confession."

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/i-knew-straight-away-shed-been-taken.html?showComment=1383480988917#c6285236295279215608



@Tony. I hope this person gets help especially if they are teaching children.

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