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Post by Guest on 27.10.13 1:20

Here is the Porn Star story.......
 
 
Madeleine McCann: Porn star used in BBC Crimewatch reconstruction on disappearance
 
 
27 Oct 2013 00:00
 
Mark Sloan, who has starred in a string of X-rated movies, was cast as one of the “Tapas Seven” dining with Gerry and Kate McCann


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Mark Sloan, who has starred in a string of X-rated movies, was cast as Matthew Oldfield, one of the “Tapas Seven” dining with Gerry and Kate McCann on the night their three-year-old daughter vanished.

 
 
 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-porn-star-used-2643423#ixzz2isRFeBUA

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Post by bristow on 27.10.13 1:27

candyfloss wrote:Here is the Porn Star story.......
 
 
Madeleine McCann: Porn star used in BBC Crimewatch reconstruction on disappearance
 
 
27 Oct 2013 00:00
 
Mark Sloan, who has starred in a string of X-rated movies, was cast as one of the “Tapas Seven” dining with Gerry and Kate McCann


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Mark Sloan, who has starred in a string of X-rated movies, was cast as Matthew Oldfield, one of the “Tapas Seven” dining with Gerry and Kate McCann on the night their three-year-old daughter vanished.

 
 
 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-porn-star-used-2643423#ixzz2isRFeBUA
This newspaper really is scraping the barrel with this rubbish, what bearing does this have on finding Madeleine?!

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Post by Curioser on 27.10.13 2:53

@ultimaThule wrote:
@tiredofthebs wrote:
Jim Gamble ‏@JimGamble_INEQE 47m
It must be a tough time for the #McCann haters given the latest developments & statement from the Portuguese. The truth will always come out
Dear Mr Gamble,

I would continue to hate the McCanns, even if they were found to not be involved directly in Madeleine's disappearance, because they are 2 of the vilest child neglectors I have ever come across.

Regards

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Having been less than complimentary about the saintly one and her spouse on occasions too numerous to mention, I took to wondering how I would feel if it were proved beyond any doubt they were not complicit in having engineered the removal of their daughter, whether alive or dead, from apartment 5A.

While I can readily hate certain behaviour exhibited by others, I cannot bring myself to hate any one person or group of persons and will have to content myself with loathing and despising 2 people who, as you have said, are a pair of the 'vilest child neglectors' to have disgraced the press and media at home and abroad and these sentiments will continue to include their fellow child neglectors and all those associated with them.

In conclusion, should they be exonerated by what appears to be a joint initiative on the part of the PJ and SY to resolve this case, I will feel not one iota of regret or remorse for any written or verbal statement I have made about this odious pair and their equally odious friends.
I had the same reaction UT. What if there really was an abductor. How would I reconcile the hours I've put in to working out what happened for myself? Then I thought, naaaah. Even if poor M was really abducted, it was their fault imho. You don't leave your kids, leave the door open and go drinking. No. That's not right.

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Post by Curioser on 27.10.13 3:10

@SchrodingersBody wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:PJ analyzes phone signals in Maddie case


The Judicial Police was already on the ground to realize that mobile telephone masts are located near the Ocean Club, in Lagos, the resort where Madeleine McCann disappeared on May 3, 2007. The purpose of the inspectors will make triangulation Cellphones crucial witnesses and possible suspects that may be identified in the process, which has now been reopened. The signals from the antennas of mobile phones allow you to narrow down the area in which each person was on the night of the disappearance
 
The inspectors of the Judicial Police were in the village of Praia da Luz for nearly a month, where they have a new analysis of the ground.
 
During the day yesterday, the Judicial Police was also listening to some witnesses who had been identified as important in the reanalysis of the case made ​​by the inspectors of Porto for two years. Efforts have elapsed throughout the day.
 
When the Morning Post found for now is not expected to need to be carried out searches.


 
 
One of the fundamental steps for research will also be reconstituted, that never came to be made and, as reported yesterday the CM, have now been accepted by the McCanns. Kate and Gerry proved to be available to participate in the reconstruction and show, so the inspectors where they were the night of the crime. Remember that the couple was having dinner in a restaurant of the resort, while Madeleine and the two twin brothers were sleeping in the room.
 
The research focuses now on PJ abduction theory and the possibility of the girl, who at the time was about to complete four years have been taken from the room by pedophiles
 
GOOGLE TRANSLATION


http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pj-analisa-sinais-de-telefones-no-caso-maddie
Phone evidence simply tells you where a phone was, not who was in posession of it at the time. Unless they already have statements that declare who had their phones and when.
Theoretically they could map every single phone handset movement via triangulation, timings and mast pings.
It's an awful lot of data, but they have spent a few million quid.
At the time I think, I'm not sure why, that they only tracked the phoned owned and declared by the Tapas 9. David Payne says in his rogatory something like "by this time we had other phones". Ah, here it is:


”Yeah, I mean err it may well have been Simon XXXXXXXX gave us a contact of someone that was a friend of the family in Portugal who err could get us mobile phones because Kate and Gerry you know hadn’t got any contact, you know way of contacting, their batteries were running out or something like that so Simon XXXXXXXX had basically said err you know there’s, there’s these people that we know there and you know that could have been it.”
1485    ”Or, because then there were two text messages sent about half past, about ten o’ clock on the Friday evening to that number.”
Reply    ”Oh to that number, well that wouldn’t make sense.”
1485    ”No.”
Reply    ”Err…”
1485    ”From that number to your number.”
Reply    ”Oh, it could have been then, if they text me saying oh I hope everything’s alright, you’ve got the phones and everything, that’s the only thing.”



Maybe they did track these extra phones - I don't know - but back then it was probably much harder to deal with that amount of data. Now I think you could plug all the information in and trace each phone path onto a map, then check for simultaneous pings. This would give you a very interesting picture and would probably reveal those extra phones, simply by proximity to other members of the Tapas 9. I'd like to see that.

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Post by Sceptic on 27.10.13 5:15

GET THE SUNDAY TIMES TODAY

Smithman efits buried by PI's for 5 years  - report came from ex m15 spies mcanns threatened to sue author of report - too much to put in post - just get a copy and read

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Post by sweetex on 27.10.13 5:18


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Post by tiny on 27.10.13 7:00

In light of this news,will the mccanns get there wish to become assistants

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 27.10.13 7:33

@tiny wrote:
In light of this news,will the mccanns get there wish to become assistants
At least we know WHY they petitioned to get Leicestershire police files on the case, and lost, WHY they wanted to be assistants and WHY they needed Clarrie "I control what comes out in the media" Mitchell, and WHY they wanted info coming direct to their helpline, and WHY……..ad infinitum.

I think they are well and truly snookered.

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Post by Praiaaa on 27.10.13 8:56

[quote="Sceptic"]GET THE SUNDAY TIMES TODAY

/quote]

I agree - buy it. Definitely worht a couple of quid to send a signal to the press that when something game-changing like this it is printed they will sell more newspapers. At last I was able to show my husband something in the MSM along the lines of what I have been telling him for several years...

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Post by plebgate on 27.10.13 9:02

@Praiaaa wrote:
@Sceptic wrote:GET THE SUNDAY TIMES TODAY

/quote]

I agree - buy it. Definitely worht a couple of quid to send a signal to the press that when something game-changing like this it is printed they will sell more newspapers. At last I was able to show my husband something in the MSM along the lines of what I have been telling him for several years...
Yes I will go and buy it today.   Good idea about showing the media they will sell more papers if they print "proper news".

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Post by KellyLennon on 27.10.13 9:18

Wonder how they will explain this one, nothing to do with the e-fit looking like GM,,,No of course not.

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Post by KellyLennon on 27.10.13 9:27

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Wonder how they will explain this one, nothing to do with the e-fit looking like GM,,,No of course not.
10 months after the three-year-old had disappeared from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, and the McCanns were beginning to despair over the handling of the local police investigation. They were relying on the new team to bring fresh hope.

But within months the relationship had soured. A report produced by the investigators was deemed “hypercritical” of the McCanns and their friends, and the authors were threatened with legal action if it was made public. Its contents remained secret until Scotland Yard detectives conducting a fresh review of the case contacted the authors and asked for a copy.spin 

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Post by SchrodingersBody on 27.10.13 9:38

If Gerry happened to have a phone in his pocket at the time of the smiths sighting....then we might really be heading towards a resolution.

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Post by pennylane on 27.10.13 9:43

@SchrodingersBody wrote:If Gerry happened to have a phone in his pocket at the time of the smiths sighting....then we might really be heading towards a resolution.
Yes I was thinking that.  I firmly believe everything happened very fast once the body was discovered, and a great deal was overlooked in the haste to hide it!  The back fitting has proven to be a complete shambles.

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Post by Curioser on 27.10.13 10:22

@pennylane wrote:
@SchrodingersBody wrote:If Gerry happened to have a phone in his pocket at the time of the smiths sighting....then we might really be heading towards a resolution.
Yes I was thinking that.  I firmly believe everything happened very fast once the body was discovered, and a great deal was overlooked in the haste to hide it!  The back fitting has proven to be a complete shambles.
So you don't think it happened the night before? I thought it was the night of the third and panic ensued but others here think it happened on the 2nd.

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Post by pennylane on 27.10.13 11:12

@Curioser wrote:
@pennylane wrote:
@SchrodingersBody wrote:If Gerry happened to have a phone in his pocket at the time of the smiths sighting....then we might really be heading towards a resolution.
Yes I was thinking that.  I firmly believe everything happened very fast once the body was discovered, and a great deal was overlooked in the haste to hide it!  The back fitting has proven to be a complete shambles.
So you don't think it happened the night before? I thought it was the night of the third and panic ensued but others here think it happened on the 2nd.
No I don't think it happened the night before, but I believe the downward spiral began as a result of Maddie waking on 1st when Mrs Fenn overheard the crying.  I think she was over-sedated and woke and wandered in a very groggy state and tragically fell and met her demise on 3rd. I think she was dead for two hours before she was found.  Gerry went into action, and was seen by the Smith's (imo).  I briefly considered she may have been injured on 2nd and died on 3rd, but I discounted this because she was seen on 3rd.  Whatever way I view it, I always return to them finding her on the evening of the 3rd and a panic situation occurring.

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Post by Ayniia on 27.10.13 11:57

@Christina wrote:
@Ayniia wrote:"The PJ was already on the ground to realize what mobile telephone masts are located near the Ocean Club , in Lagos, the resort where Madeleine McCann disappeared on May 3, 2007 . The purpose of the inspectors is to make triangulation of mobiles from crucial witnesses and possible suspects that may be identified in the process , which has now been reopened . The signals from the antennas of mobile phones allow you to narrow down the area in which each person was on the night of the disappearance .
" (translated by google and corrected by me,bold and color by me also)
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pj-analisa-sinais-de-telefones-no-caso-maddie
Correio da Manha reported the   PJ was looking at phone pings... I wonder, did they got to know who the number that was calling from Ribeira do Vascao to Swansea and to the British embassy,belongs to ? that's a lead... very strong one I'd say... All IMO
This. Not seen much/any discussion on it but it seems to be very important. Thank you Ayniia! And it seems to have been overlooked for now. Clicked the link and it's current, so the PJ a month ago were looking again at the pings and the terrain. Stuff's happening. Bloody interesting times..
Thank you Christina!

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Post by plebgate on 27.10.13 12:06

Yes, let's hope they work as well with the Sunday Times reporting today.

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Post by Guest on 27.10.13 12:35

Oh look what we have here.........


[size=24]Madeline McCann: Breakthrough as police hunt three 'gypsies' seen lurking
nearby
[/size]


27 Oct 2013 00:00

The men were suspected of being behind a string of burglaries around the resort in the weeks leading up to the youngster being snatched


Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeline-mccann-police-hunt-three-2644559#ixzz2ivQOnDED

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Post by plebgate on 27.10.13 12:47

Get rid of Mystic Meg, we on this forum can predict what is going to happen with the reporting of this case. big grin 

They never let us down do they? Mr  Mrs

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Post by jeanmonroe on 27.10.13 12:49

The only thing 'stiff' with this porn 'actor' was his WOODen, pathetic, acting 'performance' on Beeb CW!
laughat laughat laughat

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Post by noddy100 on 27.10.13 12:50

candyfloss wrote:Oh look what we have here.........


[size=24]Madeline McCann: Breakthrough as police hunt three 'gypsies' seen lurking
nearby
[/size]  


27 Oct 2013 00:00      

The men were suspected of being behind a string of burglaries around the resort in the weeks leading up to the youngster being snatched


Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeline-mccann-police-hunt-three-2644559#ixzz2ivQOnDED
What police are hunting them?

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Post by thetruthbeknown on 27.10.13 12:53

candyfloss wrote:Oh look what we have here.........


[size=24]Madeline McCann: Breakthrough as police hunt three 'gypsies' seen lurking
nearby
[/size]  


27 Oct 2013 00:00      

The men were suspected of being behind a string of burglaries around the resort in the weeks leading up to the youngster being snatched


Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeline-mccann-police-hunt-three-2644559#ixzz2ivQOnDED
Typical Mirror..putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5.7  ...plus ive yet to hear of career burglars, whose intention it was all along was to kidnap.. they are more likely to just carry on burglaring the apartment or to flee if disturbed or finding someone is present..the burglaries beforehand I think are a red herring :/

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