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Post by Karen Pinto 14.10.13 6:57

A very well balanced article - DOGS are mentioned PLUS great advertising for Gonzalo Amaral's book

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2458369/So-breakthrough-end-slurs-Kate-Gerry.html



Within a small courtroom at Lisbon’s white Palace of Justice, an emotionally charged drama is playing out to a packed public gallery.


It concerns an extraordinary and highly contentious allegation in a book by a Portuguese detective that Madeleine McCann was killed in an accident, and that her parents covered up her death.
Unsurprisingly, Madeleine’s parents protest that this is a cruel, damaging and false accusation. They are suing the policeman, Goncalo Amaral, and claiming almost £1million from him or defamation.


So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-18B660A900000578-549_634x477
Damaging: Kate and Gerry McCann say accusations in a book published by a Portuguese detective have soured public opinion of them

The couple say that his book, The Truth Of The Lie, has poisoned public opinion against them and hampered their search for their beloved daughter by wickedly making people believe – wrongly – that she is dead.

 
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  • Smirk of the Maddie suspect: Police release e-fits of mystery man and promise 'revelation' on TV tonight






  • Maddie detectives hunting two 'German-speaking men': E-fit of suspects revealed this week as McCanns pray Crimewatch reconstruction results in a breakthrough







It is the latest chapter in the enduringly sad mystery of what happened to Madeleine. The libel case will culminate in an explosive hearing next month when the main protagonists, Gerry and Kate McCann and Mr Amaral – who led the Portuguese police hunt – each hope to have their say in the witness box.
By then we hope to know much more about the events of May 3, 2007, the night of Madeleine’s disappearance on the Algarve.
Last week, Scotland Yard, which is running a new multi-million-pound inquiry into the case, hinted it is about to make a dramatic breakthrough in its investigation and today’s release of e-fits of one suspect will generate worldwide headlines.

So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-18B6F70F00000578-692_634x478
TV reconstruction: The couple will be portrayed by actors during tonight's episode of BBC Crimewatch, including a reenactment of the dinner they had with their friends at a nearby restaurant

These are significant steps in the police inquiry, launched in July and being run from the second floor of Belgravia police station in London, where detectives are studying more than 39,000 documents as well as photographs and files connected to the case.
Witness statements, numerous ‘sightings’ of Madeleine from across the world and Portuguese police files are all being re-examined. Detectives have identified 41 possible suspects, including 15 Britons.
And, in what will undoubtedly be a herculean task – considering the data protection laws – the Yard is attempting, by analysing mobile phone records, to identify everyone who was near the McCanns’ holiday apartment between April 28 and the night Madeleine disappeared.

So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-18B69EAC00000578-141_634x398
Night: Another scene shows Maddie's parents closing the curtains in their room on the night their daughter disappeared

The new investigation is the fruit of a hugely slick international campaign to make sure people don’t forget about Madeleine. It has cost vast amounts of money, much of it public donations to the McCann family in a not-for-profit company called Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited. This was set up 12 days after she went missing, to ‘find Madeleine, support her family and bring her abductors to justice’.
So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-0210235000000578-227_306x458
Case: Policeman Goncalo Amaral poses with his book entitled 'Maddie:The Truth about the Lie', which the McCann's say is cruel and damaging

Annual accounts show the fund’s income to March 31, 2012 had reached £3,742,385, including royalties paid for Kate’s book, Madeleine, and a donation from a newspaper group in lieu of damages.
The campaign, led by the McCann family, has seen a visit to the Pope, promises of support from the then PM Gordon Brown, the involvement of David Cameron, an appearance by Kate and Gerry on the Oprah Winfrey show and posters of Madeleine being distributed to British bookshops as they opened at midnight for the sale of a new Harry Potter book.
More than 50million people visited the McCanns’ Find Madeleine website in the first 48 hours it was launched – and many millions more have done so since. Nothing quite like this has been seen before and probably never will again.
Throughout the entire sad affair there have been claims and counter-claims about what happened on that night in May at the Mark Warner resort in Praia da Luz.
It was just before 10pm that Kate McCann left the dinner she was having with her husband and seven English friends at a tapas restaurant and walked the 50 yards back to their apartment to check on her three sleeping children. She slipped in through the patio windows, which the couple had kept unlocked so as to make the checks easier. The twins, two-year-old Sean and Amelie, were soundly asleep – but their sister’s bed was empty. In deep distress, and calling Madeleine’s name out loud, Kate ran back to her friends to tell them through tears: ‘They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her.’
The police were called and – initially – said that they were concentrating on the ‘missing hour’. Officers thought she had been kidnapped by a stranger between when Gerry had last checked on her at 9.05pm and her mother’s awful discovery less than an hour later.

So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-07D7BAD7000005DC-539_634x620
Together: British couple Gerry and Kate McCann arrive at a Lisbon courthouse in 2010 where the case against the former policeman was heard

But within weeks the police story changed dramatically. It has emerged at the Lisbon libel case, and linked hearings, that both Portuguese detectives and British police who were helping the investigation suddenly suspected that Madeleine had died at the apartment and that her death had been covered up by her parents.
More disturbingly, evidence given at the hearings by some of Portugal’s most senior policemen peddles that deeply wounding view even today.
For example, Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida has said: ‘The conclusion… was that the McCann couple simulated the abduction to hide the fact that they had not taken care of their children.
‘There was a tragic accident in the apartment that night and they neglected the care of their children. It was the conclusion of both the Portuguese and British police. We have always spoken of a tragic accidental death. There was no murder. The McCanns did not kill her, but concealed the body.’
He added that the controversial book by his police colleague was a ‘true history of facts’, closely based on the actual Portuguese police files: thousands of pages, recordings and film, including the statements of the so-called Tapas Seven, other witnesses at Praia da Luz and forensic evidence.
Mr de Almeida claims that suspicions about the McCanns appeared to be confirmed when sniffer dogs, brought from Britain, found traces of blood and the ‘smell of death’ in the McCanns’ holiday apartment. In evidence at the libel trial last week, Luis Neves, head of the Portuguese organised crime and kidnapping unit, went further. He said it was the British police who ‘first developed the theory’ that Madeleine had died at the apartment.
I have discovered that this has been confirmed in diplomatic correspondence sent by the US ambassador to Portugal, Al Hoffman, to the US government about a meeting with his British counterpart, Alexander Wykeham Ellis, four months after Madeleine’s disappearance and just after the McCanns were temporarily made suspects by the Portuguese.

So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-07DB6A2C000005DC-385_634x641
Views: Goncalo Amaral was originally in charge of the investigation into the disappearance Madeleine and has been supported by his colleagues who say the book is a 'true history of facts'

Hoffman said in the cable, marked confidential: ‘Ellis admitted that the British police had developed the current evidence against the McCann parents, and he stressed that authorities from both countries were working co-operatively.’
Of course, the claims have been trenchantly dismissed by the McCanns.
Through their trusted spokesman Clarence Mitchell, the couple say the diplomatic cable is ‘historical’ stuff which no longer has any bearing on their worldwide search for Madeleine.
Meanwhile, the Yard investigation is based on the belief that Madeleine was abducted and is still alive.
Yet, to the exasperation and dismay of the McCanns, Goncalo Amaral stubbornly sticks to his outlandish thesis. His book suggests – without, the McCanns argue, a shred of justification – that Madeleine woke up while her parents were having supper, having been stirred either by her father checking her at 9.05pm or, minutes later, talking to another holidaymaker in the street outside the bedroom window.
At the sound of her father’s voice, Madeleine got out of bed, and in a dreadful accident, fell behind the sofa in the living room of the apartment and was killed.
Amaral says: ‘I think someone discovered the body, concealed it, cleaned everything up, and moved the sofa.’
At the Lisbon hearing, police colleagues have given collaborating evidence. One, retired officer Francisco Moita Flores, criticised the Scotland Yard investigation for assuming Madeleine had been kidnapped.
No doubt Portuguese detectives such as him, who support Amaral’s theory, would question why the Yard and Crimewatch are putting such extensive resources into the hunt for Madeleine, six and a half years after she vanished.
In turn, Gerry and Kate’s supporters feel anger towards those they accuse of holding discredited and profoundly distasteful theories.
Even if Gerry and Kate win their libel case, they will feel it is only a staging post in their efforts to find their daughter.
One can only hope that Scotland Yard’s efforts will finally produce a breakthrough in this most troubling of cases.


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Post by Smokeandmirrors 14.10.13 7:06

Karen Pinto wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2458369/So-breakthrough-end-slurs-Kate-Gerry.html

A very well balanced article - DOGS are mentioned PLUS great advertising for Gonzalo Amaral's book

Within a small courtroom at Lisbon’s white Palace of Justice, an emotionally charged drama is playing out to a packed public gallery.


It concerns an extraordinary and highly contentious allegation in a book by a Portuguese detective that Madeleine McCann was killed in an accident, and that her parents covered up her death.
Unsurprisingly, Madeleine’s parents protest that this is a cruel, damaging and false accusation. They are suing the policeman, Goncalo Amaral, and claiming almost £1million from him or defamation.


So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-18B660A900000578-549_634x477
Damaging: Kate and Gerry McCann say accusations in a book published by a Portuguese detective have soured public opinion of them

The couple say that his book, The Truth Of The Lie, has poisoned public opinion against them and hampered their search for their beloved daughter by wickedly making people believe – wrongly – that she is dead.

 
More...

  • Smirk of the Maddie suspect: Police release e-fits of mystery man and promise 'revelation' on TV tonight


  • Maddie detectives hunting two 'German-speaking men': E-fit of suspects revealed this week as McCanns pray Crimewatch reconstruction results in a breakthrough



It is the latest chapter in the enduringly sad mystery of what happened to Madeleine. The libel case will culminate in an explosive hearing next month when the main protagonists, Gerry and Kate McCann and Mr Amaral – who led the Portuguese police hunt – each hope to have their say in the witness box.
By then we hope to know much more about the events of May 3, 2007, the night of Madeleine’s disappearance on the Algarve.
Last week, Scotland Yard, which is running a new multi-million-pound inquiry into the case, hinted it is about to make a dramatic breakthrough in its investigation and today’s release of e-fits of one suspect will generate worldwide headlines.

So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-18B6F70F00000578-692_634x478
TV reconstruction: The couple will be portrayed by actors during tonight's episode of BBC Crimewatch, including a reenactment of the dinner they had with their friends at a nearby restaurant

These are significant steps in the police inquiry, launched in July and being run from the second floor of Belgravia police station in London, where detectives are studying more than 39,000 documents as well as photographs and files connected to the case.
Witness statements, numerous ‘sightings’ of Madeleine from across the world and Portuguese police files are all being re-examined. Detectives have identified 41 possible suspects, including 15 Britons.
And, in what will undoubtedly be a herculean task – considering the data protection laws – the Yard is attempting, by analysing mobile phone records, to identify everyone who was near the McCanns’ holiday apartment between April 28 and the night Madeleine disappeared.

So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-18B69EAC00000578-141_634x398
Night: Another scene shows Maddie's parents closing the curtains in their room on the night their daughter disappeared

The new investigation is the fruit of a hugely slick international campaign to make sure people don’t forget about Madeleine. It has cost vast amounts of money, much of it public donations to the McCann family in a not-for-profit company called Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited. This was set up 12 days after she went missing, to ‘find Madeleine, support her family and bring her abductors to justice’.
So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-0210235000000578-227_306x458
Case: Policeman Goncalo Amaral poses with his book entitled 'Maddie:The Truth about the Lie', which the McCann's say is cruel and damaging

Annual accounts show the fund’s income to March 31, 2012 had reached £3,742,385, including royalties paid for Kate’s book, Madeleine, and a donation from a newspaper group in lieu of damages.
The campaign, led by the McCann family, has seen a visit to the Pope, promises of support from the then PM Gordon Brown, the involvement of David Cameron, an appearance by Kate and Gerry on the Oprah Winfrey show and posters of Madeleine being distributed to British bookshops as they opened at midnight for the sale of a new Harry Potter book.
More than 50million people visited the McCanns’ Find Madeleine website in the first 48 hours it was launched – and many millions more have done so since. Nothing quite like this has been seen before and probably never will again.
Throughout the entire sad affair there have been claims and counter-claims about what happened on that night in May at the Mark Warner resort in Praia da Luz.
It was just before 10pm that Kate McCann left the dinner she was having with her husband and seven English friends at a tapas restaurant and walked the 50 yards back to their apartment to check on her three sleeping children. She slipped in through the patio windows, which the couple had kept unlocked so as to make the checks easier. The twins, two-year-old Sean and Amelie, were soundly asleep – but their sister’s bed was empty. In deep distress, and calling Madeleine’s name out loud, Kate ran back to her friends to tell them through tears: ‘They’ve taken her, they’ve taken her.’
The police were called and – initially – said that they were concentrating on the ‘missing hour’. Officers thought she had been kidnapped by a stranger between when Gerry had last checked on her at 9.05pm and her mother’s awful discovery less than an hour later.

So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-07D7BAD7000005DC-539_634x620
Together: British couple Gerry and Kate McCann arrive at a Lisbon courthouse in 2010 where the case against the former policeman was heard

But within weeks the police story changed dramatically. It has emerged at the Lisbon libel case, and linked hearings, that both Portuguese detectives and British police who were helping the investigation suddenly suspected that Madeleine had died at the apartment and that her death had been covered up by her parents.
More disturbingly, evidence given at the hearings by some of Portugal’s most senior policemen peddles that deeply wounding view even today.
For example, Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida has said: ‘The conclusion… was that the McCann couple simulated the abduction to hide the fact that they had not taken care of their children.
‘There was a tragic accident in the apartment that night and they neglected the care of their children. It was the conclusion of both the Portuguese and British police. We have always spoken of a tragic accidental death. There was no murder. The McCanns did not kill her, but concealed the body.’
He added that the controversial book by his police colleague was a ‘true history of facts’, closely based on the actual Portuguese police files: thousands of pages, recordings and film, including the statements of the so-called Tapas Seven, other witnesses at Praia da Luz and forensic evidence.
Mr de Almeida claims that suspicions about the McCanns appeared to be confirmed when sniffer dogs, brought from Britain, found traces of blood and the ‘smell of death’ in the McCanns’ holiday apartment. In evidence at the libel trial last week, Luis Neves, head of the Portuguese organised crime and kidnapping unit, went further. He said it was the British police who ‘first developed the theory’ that Madeleine had died at the apartment.
I have discovered that this has been confirmed in diplomatic correspondence sent by the US ambassador to Portugal, Al Hoffman, to the US government about a meeting with his British counterpart, Alexander Wykeham Ellis, four months after Madeleine’s disappearance and just after the McCanns were temporarily made suspects by the Portuguese.

So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? Article-0-07DB6A2C000005DC-385_634x641
Views: Goncalo Amaral was originally in charge of the investigation into the disappearance Madeleine and has been supported by his colleagues who say the book is a 'true history of facts'

Hoffman said in the cable, marked confidential: ‘Ellis admitted that the British police had developed the current evidence against the McCann parents, and he stressed that authorities from both countries were working co-operatively.’
Of course, the claims have been trenchantly dismissed by the McCanns.
Through their trusted spokesman Clarence Mitchell, the couple say the diplomatic cable is ‘historical’ stuff which no longer has any bearing on their worldwide search for Madeleine.
Meanwhile, the Yard investigation is based on the belief that Madeleine was abducted and is still alive.
Yet, to the exasperation and dismay of the McCanns, Goncalo Amaral stubbornly sticks to his outlandish thesis. His book suggests – without, the McCanns argue, a shred of justification – that Madeleine woke up while her parents were having supper, having been stirred either by her father checking her at 9.05pm or, minutes later, talking to another holidaymaker in the street outside the bedroom window.
At the sound of her father’s voice, Madeleine got out of bed, and in a dreadful accident, fell behind the sofa in the living room of the apartment and was killed.
Amaral says: ‘I think someone discovered the body, concealed it, cleaned everything up, and moved the sofa.’
At the Lisbon hearing, police colleagues have given collaborating evidence. One, retired officer Francisco Moita Flores, criticised the Scotland Yard investigation for assuming Madeleine had been kidnapped.
No doubt Portuguese detectives such as him, who support Amaral’s theory, would question why the Yard and Crimewatch are putting such extensive resources into the hunt for Madeleine, six and a half years after she vanished.
In turn, Gerry and Kate’s supporters feel anger towards those they accuse of holding discredited and profoundly distasteful theories.
Even if Gerry and Kate win their libel case, they will feel it is only a staging post in their efforts to find their daughter.
One can only hope that Scotland Yard’s efforts will finally produce a breakthrough in this most troubling of cases.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2458369/So-breakthrough-end-slurs-Kate-Gerry.html#ixzz2hfnqG1u6
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A very balanced article, one of the best I've seen. There ARE two sides to this story and the British public are entitled to draw their own conclusion based on the information available. What we must not allow, is certain details being omitted in the telling of the story.

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Post by ultimaThule 14.10.13 7:39

Karen Pinto is to be congratulated on her excellent article and I wonder how many other papers are going to run with variations of it in the coming week? 

Could this be the first of many cracks in what has been years of unadulterated support from the UK press for the McCanns, who will no doubt be on to Carter Ruck in a couple of hours time - or earlier if they have their solicitor's home number on speed dial. 

One thing's for sure; K&G are so not going to like this, more especially as it comes on the day of the first showing of their Crimwatch produced film.   I suspect there'll be hissy fits all round in Rothley Towers this morning, presupposing the stars of 'Deconstruction - The Movie' didn't check into another 5* near the studio last night. 

If the gruesome twosome weren't aware this article was going to roll of the presses this a.m, I wouldn't want to be in the pink one's pointy patent shoes this morning big grin
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Post by Karen Pinto 14.10.13 7:45

ultimaThule wrote:Karen Pinto is to be congratulated on her excellent article and I wonder how many other papers are going to run with variations of it in the coming week? 

Could this be the first of many cracks in what has been years of unadulterated support from the UK press for the McCanns who will no doubt be on to Carter Ruck in a couple of hours time - or earlier if they have their solicitor's home number on speed dial. 

One thing's for sure; K&G are so not going to like this, more especially as it comes on the day of the first showing of their Crimwatch produced film.   I suspect there'll be hissy fits all round in Rothley Towers this morning, presupposing the stars of 'Deconstruction - The Movie' didn't check into another 5* near the studio last night. 

If the gruesome twosome weren't aware this article was going to roll of the presses this a.m, I wouldn't want to be in the pink one's pointy patent shoes this morning big grin
Hi ultimaThule - indeed CONGRATULATIONS are in order - but I cannot take the credit it was written by Sue Reid, Daily Mail - I just copy pasted it.
I also wonder who next will hop on the "train of truth"
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Post by bristow 14.10.13 7:57

Brilliant balanced article!
I have commented to echo the same, hope there are loads of comments on the article congratulating Sue Reid.

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Post by Smokeandmirrors 14.10.13 8:05

bristow wrote:Brilliant balanced article!
I have commented to echo the same, hope there are loads of comments on the article congratulating Sue Reid.
Congratulations must also go to the Editor for publishing, too. I have no doubt whatsoever that there have been numerous journalists who have attempted to shine a light on this issue, but whether those views get past the editors is another matter.

It's all very well the papers printing every false lead, numerous nondescript e-fits etc, but whilst there are a great many worrying contradictions and indications of alternative theories (including the dog alerts), it is unhelpful not to present all sides to the story.

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Post by ultimaThule 14.10.13 8:12

"One can only hope that Scotland Yard’s efforts will finally produce a breakthrough in this most troubling of cases"

I'm sure we all second this, but on present showing Andy does not inspire confidence.  In his latest appearance on the small screen the shading on his face, which been applied by yet another hungover enthusiastic make up artist to minimise his somewhat fleshy jowls, has resulted in him looking as if he only needs a red satin lined cloak to double for a one-eared Dracula.  

Perhaps Andy's somewhat sinister appearance of late is another indication that the times they are a'changing for the gruesomes?  They've bit the hand that so generously fed and provided for them and it's always been inevitable they'll be bit back for their ingratitude at some time or other.  Maybe that time is now and it could be there's another body hovering with the intention of going for the jugular when they least expect it.

I'm very much looking forward to McCanns live performance this evening and I hope I can sit through the movie which heralds their appearance without having to reach for the sickbucket.
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Post by aiyoyo 14.10.13 8:28

Night: Another scene shows Maddie's parents closing the curtains in their room on the night their daughter disappeared
Tampering with crime scene!

Will discerning viewers be left wondering what normal parents is more concerned with closing the curtains than searching for their missing first born?
Shouldn't they be running outside screaming her name and searching frantically for her?
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Post by aiyoyo 14.10.13 8:49

bristow wrote:Brilliant balanced article!
I have commented to echo the same, hope there are loads of comments on the article congratulating Sue Reid.
Isnt that (contradiction) best stuff to sell papers?
You have on one hand Portuguese Police saying she's dead while on the other hand the Yard's looking for an abductor.
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Post by PeterMac 14.10.13 8:53

aiyoyo wrote:
Night: Another scene shows Maddie's parents closing the curtains in their room on the night their daughter disappeared
Tampering with crime scene!

Will discerning viewers be left wondering what normal parents is more concerned with closing the curtains than searching for their missing first born?
Shouldn't they be running outside screaming her name and searching frantically for her?
So the curtains are going to be OPEN !
What about Whooshing, which means they had to be CLOSED, as Kate demonstrated so graphically in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhACS6ck-Dw&feature=player_embedded
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Post by ultimaThule 14.10.13 8:56

Whoops blushing1 

My apologies to Karen Pinto, and congratulations to Sue Reid whose article has renewed my hope that all is not yet lost.
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Post by Karen Pinto 14.10.13 9:14

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5199791/We-saw-him-carrying-girl-like-Maddie-down-empty-side-street.html
It’s the person who’s gone into that apartment and taken a little girl away from her family.”  - this coming from a MOTHER talking of HER BABY girl

Shouldnt it read like this :  Its the (evil nasty) person who went into the apartment and took our baby little girl away from us, her family
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Post by Karen Pinto 14.10.13 9:24


  1.  received this response from Jim Gamble on twitter - Karen Pinto@KSLPinto 53m


  2. @JimGamble_INEQE @sandralaville @BBCBreakfast tell NO porkies please Jim re Kate & Gerry McCanns lies of "abduction"and GA libel trial - TA




  1. So could this TV reconstruction end the distasteful slurs about Kate and Gerry? B077fb07db62b5570028d872d86c5470_normalJim Gamble@JimGamble_INEQE 33m
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Post by Truthandjustice 14.10.13 9:32

I think the new libel laws are helping the press here, it is my understanding that they can now repeat what has been said in court at the libel trial without fear of reprise.  This is good news for freedom of speech.
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Post by MaryB 14.10.13 9:51

It makes a bit of a change from the usual 'cleared of all wrongdoing' by the investigation.
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Post by endgame 14.10.13 9:54

Whilst accepting that the article is a small advance I wouldn't exactly call it balanced. The headline refers to "distasteful slurs". The Portuguese police conclusions are described as "outlandish" and "disturbing". It only gives us the alternative view in order to discard it. But, as everyone says, at least it reports it and absolutely clearly places joint responsibility for the "distasteful slurs" in British hands.
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Post by gbwales 14.10.13 9:59

In balance issues, it does also say "the 50 yard walk". It is of course only 50 yards if you walk across the swimming pool and through the air up to the patio doors. 

Still - tiny steps, and all that...yes

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Post by ultimaThule 14.10.13 10:00

endgame wrote:Whilst accepting that the article is a small advance I wouldn't exactly call it balanced. The headline refers to "distasteful slurs". The Portuguese police conclusions are described as "outlandish" and "disturbing". It only gives us the alternative view in order to discard it. But, as everyone says, at least it reports it and absolutely clearly places joint responsibility for the "distasteful slurs" in British hands.
IMO it's been cleverly done to avoid any comeback from K&G's lawyers.  I suspect most folk will either see straight through the saccharine or be so irritated with it they'll be less well disposed towards the McCanns.
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Post by merryforge 14.10.13 10:02

I thought (hoped) that the 'outlandish' word was rather tongue-in-cheek - almost gleefully ironic.  As if saying 'I have to sprinkle this article with a few of these or it won't get past the pro-Mac censors but you can see what I REALLY mean'....  Hope so anyway.  Good article, should jolt the certainties of a few readers as there now seems to be a sort of 'collective memory' of events which is almost entirely fictional.... except on here of course so thanks for all the good work thumbsup
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Post by Smokeandmirrors 14.10.13 10:03

merryforge wrote:I thought (hoped) that the 'outlandish' word was rather tongue-in-cheek - almost gleefully ironic.  As if saying 'I have to sprinkle this article with a few of these or it won't get past the pro-Mac censors but you can see what I REALLY mean'....  Hope so anyway.  Good article, should jolt the certainties of a few readers as there now seems to be a sort of 'collective memory' of events which is almost entirely fictional.... except on here of course so thanks for all the good work thumbsup
Welcome aboard!! Tongue in cheek does seem to fit the bill doesn't it? Tide turning.

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Post by gbwales 14.10.13 10:05

merryforge wrote:I thought (hoped) that the 'outlandish' word was rather tongue-in-cheek - almost gleefully ironic.  As if saying 'I have to sprinkle this article with a few of these or it won't get past the pro-Mac censors but you can see what I REALLY mean'....  Hope so anyway.  Good article, should jolt the certainties of a few readers as there now seems to be a sort of 'collective memory' of events which is almost entirely fictional.... except on here of course so thanks for all the good work thumbsup
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It's actually quite a similar thing to what The Sun did a little while back during the libel trial coverage - saying about GA's "Outrageous" claims to head up a page of info that most of the public hadn't seen before, and which were frankly NOT outrageous. Perhaps the only way to start chipping away at the ignorance, like you say without lawyers knocking everything back...

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Post by Guest 14.10.13 10:06

welcome merryforge.

Yes I'm cautiously optimistic that more journalists are doing their bit to report the case in a way that alerts the readers to the other side of the story without causing anyone at Carter-Ruck to splutter over their coffee.
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Post by gbwales 14.10.13 10:06

Maybe after so much cowardice and pussyfooting the press are starting to find their feet and are just bit by bit testing the waters with what they can say....?
If they feel sufficiently brave perhaps the wall will break and we'll see a proper 'tidal wave' as KM puts it. Enough to turn Gerry's chinos a much deeper brown.

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Post by Mirage 14.10.13 10:19

10:10:09 Yes Karen a good article in the Mail by Sue Reid! As someone says, similar tactics to the Sun. Not before time though. I have written several screeds to the Mail about their blatant bias.
I have wondered in  more optimistic moments if there is a pincer movement on the McCanns by PJ and Met.
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