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Re: NEW EVIDENCE

Post by aiyoyo on 11.10.13 0:42

@Newintown wrote:
@ShuBob wrote:The adverts have started. It was just shown on BBC1 after Question Time.
Unfortunately I've just seen it as well.  Flashes of the "incident room", Kate McCann looking the poor bereft Mother with her usual whiney voice, Deadwood saying "it was a revelation".  He didn't go on to say what was a revelation, no doubt we'll have to wait until Monday, so will poor little Madeleine before the cavalry are sent out to rescue her.  What a load of old BS (that doesn't stand for Blacksmith, by the way). 

The flashes of what's to come made the opening scenes of CSI look boring.  smilie
Did he really say it WAS a revelation? In past tense?
Maybe it's just misleading advertising!

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Post by sonic72 on 11.10.13 0:46

Jeez, I didn't know about the 30 sec clips! That is just ludicrous!

Talk about mind programming overload!

Desperate measures by desperate people!

There's definitely a lot more too this Maddy case than meets the eye, especially if they are going to such great lengths!

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Post by ultimaThule on 11.10.13 0:50

Wendy Murphy has let the genie of out of the sedative bottle and the devil subject of child pornography won't be far behind. 

Well, well, well.  Who would have thought it?  All those months of careful planning and preparation gone down the drain because the McCanns, their Portuguese lawyers, and their assorted flunkies and lackeys PR bods and other cronies, reckoned mid-October would be a good time to bury bad news when the Court was hearing Dr Amaral's witnesses.  

What are they going to do between Wednesday 16 October, when yesterday's news will be wrapping fish'n'chips, and Tuesday 5th November when the fireworks are let off?  I'm hazarding a guess that a number of folk will be burning K&G guys this year out of utter contempt for the gruesome twosome rather than with any malicious intent.
One thing's for sure - the pink one will be :spin:so hard he'll be in danger of launching himself into orbit yes

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Post by aiyoyo on 11.10.13 0:51

@MRNOODLES wrote:
@Nina wrote:Has anyone ever seen the like of this before? 30 second clips throughout the day and night. This is brain washing, propaganda.
Just shown it after QuestionTime... AAAhhhhhh puke  KM had tears down her face blubbing about the nasty accusations.
What accusation? The libel suit brought by her?
She is silly bring more negative rpress on herself, and more publicity for Amaral's book. People will now start googling Amaral's book..

More importantly her SUIT has nothing to do with APPEAL.

It shows her priority is all wrong, AGAIN, as usual.

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Post by Newintown on 11.10.13 0:52

@aiyoyo wrote:
@Newintown wrote:
@ShuBob wrote:The adverts have started. It was just shown on BBC1 after Question Time.
Unfortunately I've just seen it as well.  Flashes of the "incident room", Kate McCann looking the poor bereft Mother with her usual whiney voice, Deadwood saying "it was a revelation".  He didn't go on to say what was a revelation, no doubt we'll have to wait until Monday, so will poor little Madeleine before the cavalry are sent out to rescue her.  What a load of old BS (that doesn't stand for Blacksmith, by the way). 

The flashes of what's to come made the opening scenes of CSI look boring.  smilie
Did he really say  it WAS a revelation?  In past tense?
Maybe it's just misleading advertising!
I think that's what he said, it was a very short clip, just those words.  I took it in the context that it was a revelation in probably what SY found as "new" evidence or what they may have been told by someone.

It's probably all cr*p anyway, if it was something so important it would have been given out ages ago, not left until Crimewatch and presented with a trumpet fanfare.

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Post by ultimaThule on 11.10.13 0:59

@juliet wrote:Is it possible that there is a panic on? The libel case is going badly. Newspapers may be telling Cameron that for every pro Mccann comment there are 50 sceptics..which they don't print. And now a Fox news program is used to tell what people really think!! I think Murdoch might he breaking ranks. Don't  forget the Sun and that very telling "outrageous Amaral" spread.
Press barons tend to get their own back a tad annoyed when those they've fed bite their hands off, or when they've paid out large sums to a bluffer yes

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Post by marconi on 11.10.13 0:59

Imagine the revelation being Clarence Mitchell wrapped in a towel!

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Post by aiyoyo on 11.10.13 1:02

ODD the Yard didn't advise them against the 30 secs trailer!!

Not OK to go to the trial.

But OK to WARN the abductor!

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Post by Newintown on 11.10.13 1:03

@marconi wrote:Imagine the revelation being Clarence Mitchell wrapped in a towel!
Well that's one sight you wouldn't forget giving a witness statement, that's for sure!!!   big grin

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Post by worriedmum on 11.10.13 1:10

If I 'strongly believed' that my missing child was alive and 'findable', I would be outraged and screaming from the

rooftops if I thought that valuable intelligence was being held back in order to boost programme ratings weeks in

 advance. Why the massive fore-warning if the child is being held somewhere? Wouldn't it put her at risk-or will they

later claim 'not to have made that much of it really'?

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Post by marconi on 11.10.13 1:13

People here were concerned about the McCanns broadcasting the program on the facebook
   at the same time the BBC would broadcast it.
No tv channel in this world would share its public with another channel, certainly not with facebook .

All of the  work and expenses being payed by the Yard and by the BBC and the compliments for the McCanns?

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Post by ultimaThule on 11.10.13 1:15

MRNOODLE wrote:AAAhhhhhh puke  KM had tears down her face blubbing about the nasty accusations.
The tears came courtesy of the BBC's make-up department. 

As for the 'nasty accusations', St K8 should prepare herself for the seriously nasty accusations - now that sedatives and child pornography have been put on the table by well-respected former prosecutor and professor of law, Wendy Murphy, she'll be wishing she'd been kinder to that 'nice Dr Amaral'.

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Post by sonic72 on 11.10.13 1:23

The book hasn't harmed the 'search' as we know. Scotland Yard have spent £6 million of our tax money on the 'search', the 'search' is still going on apparently!?? McCanns, stop talking crap will you!

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Post by ultimaThule on 11.10.13 1:32

@marconi wrote:People here were concerned about the McCanns broadcasting the program on the facebook
   at the same time the BBC would broadcast it.
No tv channel in this world would share its public with another channel, certainly not with facebook .

All of the  work and expenses being payed by the Yard and by the BBC and the compliments for the McCanns?
"All of the work and expenses being payed by the Yard and by the BBC and the compliments for the McCanns?'

If only, marconi.  The Metropolitan Police is funded by London council tax payers with some small contribution being made by income and other taxpayers.   The BBC get their money from the £145 per year every household has to pay, on penalty of a large fine if they don't comply, for a license which entitles them to 'install television receivers' tv in their home.

In other words, NSY and the BBC are spending the public's money while the McCanns get shedloads of free publicity to promote their account of the disappearance of their eldest child.

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Post by marconi on 11.10.13 1:58

how can the McCanns survive such a pressure. They still have 3.5 days to go. What are they going to tell the siblings? It will be a shock for those two children, finding out that the parents lied to them.
I believe that the 4 of them need help.
If the MCanns wil be present at the program, somebody has to stay with Sean and Amelie.
But I don't believe that the McCanns will show themselves on the program. They will rather stay home imo.

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Post by Newintown on 11.10.13 3:21

@ultimaThule wrote:
@marconi wrote:People here were concerned about the McCanns broadcasting the program on the facebook
   at the same time the BBC would broadcast it.
No tv channel in this world would share its public with another channel, certainly not with facebook .

All of the  work and expenses being payed by the Yard and by the BBC and the compliments for the McCanns?
"All of the work and expenses being payed by the Yard and by the BBC and the compliments for the McCanns?'

If only, marconi.  The Metropolitan Police is funded by London council tax payers with some small contribution being made by income and other taxpayers.   The BBC get their money from the £145 per year every household has to pay, on penalty of a large fine if they don't comply, for a license which entitles them to 'install television receivers' tv in their home.

In other words, NSY and the BBC are spending the public's money while the McCanns get shedloads of free publicity to promote their account of the disappearance of their eldest child.
And shedloads of money into their Ltd Co "supporting the wider McCann family" donated by the gormless public who believe every word the McCanns utter and the spin supplied by their very expensive spin doctor (paid by the "Fund"?) to the daily newspapers.

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Post by HLC on 11.10.13 3:33

Hey everyone, I've not posted before but found this forum a while back & have just been making my way through the posts, when it comes to this reconstruction I assume its to do with the abduction senario K&G hold so dearly but with no proof of an abduction how can it be classed as a reconstruction?

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Post by Woofer on 11.10.13 4:22

Welcome HLC

Seems its going to be a reconstruction of a fairy story all courtesy of the BBC licence payers and UK tax payers.

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Post by ultimaThule on 11.10.13 4:52

@Newintown wrote:
@ultimaThule wrote:
@marconi wrote:People here were concerned about the McCanns broadcasting the program on the facebook
   at the same time the BBC would broadcast it.
No tv channel in this world would share its public with another channel, certainly not with facebook .

All of the  work and expenses being payed by the Yard and by the BBC and the compliments for the McCanns?
"All of the work and expenses being payed by the Yard and by the BBC and the compliments for the McCanns?'

If only, marconi.  The Metropolitan Police is funded by London council tax payers with some small contribution being made by income and other taxpayers.   The BBC get their money from the £145 per year every household has to pay, on penalty of a large fine if they don't comply, for a license which entitles them to 'install television receivers' tv in their home.

In other words, NSY and the BBC are spending the public's money while the McCanns get shedloads of free publicity to promote their account of the disappearance of their eldest child.
And shedloads of money into their Ltd Co "supporting the wider McCann family" donated by the gormless public who believe every word the McCanns utter and the spin supplied by their very expensive spin doctor (paid by the "Fund"?) to the daily newspapers.
That too, of course, Newintown.  Although it's rumoured donations have all but dried up, I reckon there's a considerable amount under the mattress tucked away in assorted accounts as people such as the McCanns never know when the axe may fall they might be detained away from home.

For some considerable time, the greedy grasper's buzzword has been 'global' - click on this extremely untidy link (why can't I do neat ones?) by way of explanation: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mirror.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk-news%2Fmadeleine-mccann-parents-want-new-2347361&ei=VnBXUsbzFIax0AWPt4HoAw&usg=AFQjCNEldZ56mYRbS6bjiV7nGPFSpG-Ksg&bvm=bv.53899372,d.d2k

I suspect this means that the website will need to be translated into Russian, Mandarin, and the language of any countries where million/billion/trillionaires are on the increase or there are guillible pensioners and schoolchildren to be exploited. 

I do hope the Fund's translators make a better fist of it than they've done with Dr Amaral's book and the PJ Reports.

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Post by tigger on 11.10.13 5:37

Don't forget the GLOBAL MADELEINE DAY. As proposed by Gerry. In June 2007!  

Seems he's getting it.  

Is this the last trick they're going to pull out of the hat before  the review is scaled down/closed? Would that explain the miserable faces of TM lately?

Putting the ball in the Portuguese court so that it's clear to the public at large that it's their fault? Literally going out with a display of fireworks  so the public  at large  thinks  SY has done all they can?
Redwood is assured a gong -  Sir Redwood?

Eta:  from the remit topic  re Textusa article 2010
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There is a comment from 14th February 2010 in a Textusa article that she/he quoted in her article about half way through as someone in the 'know'. This comment appears to now be spot on and was made before david cameron won the election and 15 months before the review was asked for. Roll forward just exactly 3 years to today (15th February 2013). The comment was...

".....I made note of some comments on blogs, some of which are now defunct, relating to the semen/saliva debate, as some people appeared to have inside knowledge. Second comment on 14.2.10. “The problem with the case is the amount of support given by the very top of the British Government. They will ask for a review, not a re-opening of the case by the British Police. There is one DNA sample described by the FSS as allegedly matching a profile from another crime, but could not be pinned on a name. Once they have the authority to review the case, this will be attributed to Raymond Hewlett and the case will be solved” This second commentator seems to have had the gift of foresight! ………..

http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/mystery-of-profile-l.html
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Post by plebgate on 11.10.13 7:41

We have been told that this has all been in the making for several months since the Spring.   Maybe the programme has, we don't know that for sure, but how long has this new evidence existed?
 
They hadn't even finished the e-pic (reportedly) 2 days ago, so just how old is this new evidence.   How long does it take to put one together?

I am still wondering why the Cardiff BBC studio is being used?   Was this all arranged only once the libel trial started, things looked as though they weren't going their way and this studio was the only one available?

Seems odd to me that they are all English and will have to travel hundreds of miles for an hour long programme.  Surely the London studio would have been better or at least one in England?

I am really trying to keep an open mind, but it is difficult.

As for the 30 second clips - come Monday I think people will be fed up with it all.   Saturation never does any cause any good imo and if, as I have read, Mrs. is blubbing and complaining  about the accusations, I should think many people would be wondering why little Maddie's face is not up on screen with the parents telling her that they love her and hopefully she will soon be home, something like that anyway.

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Post by PeterMac on 11.10.13 7:48

"Dear Madeleine,
This is your mummy and your daddy speaking.
We have got some really good evidence, which we have had for nearly six months, but we are not going to use it
to get you back until next Monday, because it is very important that we are on Television.
Try not to worry too much when the nasty man does those nasty things to you.
We will tell you one day why we didn't come to find you sooner.
We hope you understand how important it is to be on television
Mummy and daddy

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Post by plebgate on 11.10.13 7:53

Yes PeterM, exactly.

Someone mentioned the twins.   We heard last week about comments made to them in school because of the newspaper stories - those are nothing (imo) compared to this.    Seeing mummy crying on tv and saying about horrid accusations in 30 sec. clips over the weekend.   What on earth is going on here?

Edited to remove repeat wording.

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Post by Daisy on 11.10.13 8:21

@Newintown wrote:
@ShuBob wrote:The adverts have started. It was just shown on BBC1 after Question Time.
Unfortunately I've just seen it as well.  Flashes of the "incident room", Kate McCann looking the poor bereft Mother with her usual whiney voice, Deadwood saying "it was a revelation".  He didn't go on to say what was a revelation, no doubt we'll have to wait until Monday, so will poor little Madeleine before the cavalry are sent out to rescue her.  What a load of old BS (that doesn't stand for Blacksmith, by the way). 

The flashes of what's to come made the opening scenes of CSI look boring.  smilie
I had the misfortune of catching it too but was just dozing off at the time. Did I see Cuddle cat on the pillow of a neatly made bed with just the top corner of covers turned down? Or was I just dreaming?

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Post by lj on 11.10.13 8:30

@PeterMac wrote:"Dear Madeleine,
This is your mummy and your daddy speaking.
We have got some really good evidence, which we have had for nearly six months, but we are not going to use it
to get you back until next Monday, because it is very important that we are on Television.
Try not to worry too much when the nasty man does those nasty things to you.
We will tell you one day why we didn't come to find you sooner.
We hope you understand how important it is to be on television
Mummy and daddy
So poignantly real Peter.

I was just (I was 30 pages behind on almost all threads) letting it sink in that this information and the program was already some time available. That means that a famous police corps, an equally well know program and tv organization and all kind of peripheral figures all know and cooperate to first keep this information hidden, to let it all come out in an over exaggerated presentation to influence the outcome of a trial.
I think you all know that I have not a grain of respect left for the pathetic parents, none and no sympathy either, but time after time they shock me with the depth of their turpitude. It seems to be contagious too: was there no one who asked: "is this OK what we are doing?" I am really quite sad about this wall of depravity and I feel very gloomy about the future of Dr. Amaral, Tony, the twins and of course Madeleine, although for her it is not so much the future as finding out the past.

All that money and power spent on the creation of a delusion. Is this really what Cameron wanted?


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