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The website of Madeleine's Fund - will it be swiftly updated whilst the Crimewatch programme is running?

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Re: The website of Madeleine's Fund - will it be swiftly updated whilst the Crimewatch programme is running?

Post by Tony Bennett on 10.10.13 11:55

@margaret wrote:Someone who looks like Raymond Hewlett is my guess but l really hope it's bog eyed rasta man, 5th from left on the bottom row.  He's my absolute favourite.

All these photofits and yet not one single person dragged in for questioning!
Raymond Hewlett was nearly (but not quite) dragged in for questioning. Both Dave Edgar (who flew dramatically over to Germany to catch a word with him in hospital) and West Yorkshire Police were after him - but neither succeeded.

But he did provide one of those 'breakthrough' moments (a bit like what's being teed up for Monday) when, as the Sun revealed on 1 September 2010, he had solved the Madeleine McCann case by...

* with his dying breaths getting out a pen and writing out a letter...

...in his own handwriting...

...to a son (Wayne Hewlett of Telford) who 20 years ago had disowned him because he was a disgusting paedophile with a long criminal record ...

...and who had been permanently estranged from him during this time...

...he wanted to get this letter to his son...

...the main purpose of his letter was to tell his son that he really had nothing to do with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann...

...although the media were saying that he was involved...

...he did however one summer evening somewhere in southern Iberia...

...get talking (as one does) to a criminal gypsy gang leader...

...they got drinking...

...leading to him becoming known as 'the tipsy gypsy'...

...who told him that he knew about a gang which had plotted to, and had, abducted Madeleine to north Africa...

...his own gang in fact...

...in north Africa there was a healthy demand for very young white infants...

...but instead of Hewlett telling the police about this...

...despite having had this knowledge for some time...

...somehow a 'mystery man' was found...

...who probably flew from Cologne airport to Birmingham Airport...

...and then hired a car to take him to Wayne's home in Telford...

...he apparently did not give his name to Wayne and left Wayne no contact details...

...Wayne was very troubled by the letter...

...so he burnt it one day...

...but after that, he thought better of it...

...so he thought he'd contact the Sun - or maybe the McCann Team...

...and tell them all about it...

...unfortunately by then he'd forgotten the name of the gypsy gang leader...

...but would do his best to remember what was in the letter...

...the Sun made it its lead front page story on 1 September 2010...

...Dave Edgar (as he has done on many other occasions) said it was 'an important lead'...

...no doubt DCI Andy Redwood and his team have carefully been studying this tale...

...and maybe he is taking it seriously...

...the tipsy gypsy could even feature on the new e-fit...

...alternatively it could simply be one of the many stories which Rebekah Brooks once freely confessed that News International ttiles made up...

...in order to sell more newspapers...

..and make even more money for Rupert Murdoch...

...whose son-in-law employed Clarence Mitchell in 2008-9...

..."It was my job to control what comes out in the media"...

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Re: The website of Madeleine's Fund - will it be swiftly updated whilst the Crimewatch programme is running?

Post by PeterMac on 10.10.13 11:57

And not only did the man have no face, but the pyjamas are wrong.
Look at the photos of the real pyjamas, and you see that the 'trousers' are knee length.
Carry a child in that way and it is unlikely that you would see anything of the pyjamas at all.
But of course by then JT knew of the colour scheme and so the pj trousers had to be shown as full length.
And then she said they were pink, which they were not.  The pj top was pink
The trousers were white.

She forgot her lines !

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Post by jeanmonroe on 10.10.13 11:58

I for one will be scrutinising the telephone NUMBERS on the BBC 'report'

I say this because the last time, i believe, a number displayed was the McCanns OWN website.

Why would SY/Crimewatch want to direct 'traffic' to the McCanns, if indeed that happens?

The ONLY numbers displayed should be Operation Grange or 'crimestoppers' NOT the McCann's website!

imo.

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Post by Guest on 10.10.13 12:10

@jeanmonroe wrote:I for one will be scrutinising the telephone NUMBERS on the BBC 'report'

I say this because the last time, i believe, a number displayed was the McCanns OWN website.

Why would SY/Crimewatch want to direct 'traffic' to the McCanns, if indeed that happens?

The ONLY numbers displayed should be Operation Grange or 'crimestoppers' NOT the McCann's website!

imo.
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You don't want the McCs to be unable to draw up a catalogue of those of us suspecting foul play and who would take the trouble to spend a few quid to inform AR/SY of any pertinent information?


What good would it do to inform AR/SY and not the McCs themselves?


Don't you want to have the McCs in on all your information right from the start, or do you really want to burden AR/SY with the plight of having to inform the McCs only afterward? 


Tut, tut, think straight, please"

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Post by jeanmonroe on 10.10.13 12:27

Portia wrote:
"take the trouble to spend a few quid to inform AR/SY of any pertinent information"?
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Unlike DAVID PAYNE, who, i'm sure, has by NOW told AR/SY what he KNOWS to be pertinent and relevent 'things' to establish the MATERIAL 'TRUTH'!
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DC MESSIAH:1485 ”Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth?”

DAVID PAYNE reply ”Err the, there are a few things but I don’t think this is the right forum for bringing those up.”

1485 ”Okay.

eta: you'd love to be 'interviewed' by 1485 if you'd committed a 'crime' wouldn't you?

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Post by stillsloppingout on 10.10.13 12:40

Joking aside , the Met have form for fitting innocent people up Barry George for EG . 

IMO somebody [ probably perfectly innocent , in the literal sense as well] , will be receiving a knock at the door some time next week . 

All the Met etc have been doing for the past couple of year's is looking for somebody to take the hit for this " crime " . Hewlitt ? maybe, but i believe he was being watched where he lived . so that has scuppered the local Nonce theory . 

They IMO must have found either , the local village idiot ? , or somebody who will be up for taking the rap .or worst case , somebody INNOCENT is going to framed, to bring closure to this awkward situation that has arisen . 

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE LENGTHS THE YARD AND THERE PAYMASTERS WILL GO TO GET THE RESULT THEY REQUIRE IN THIS CASE .

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Post by tasprin on 10.10.13 12:42

@sallypelt wrote:Has this been posted on this forum? If so, admins please remove.

Official Find Madeleine Campaign I would like for people to understand this from the point of view of Madeleine's parents. This is their child. How would you feel if your child's pictures were plastered all over Facebook and on questionable pages and you had no say it? Would you be so cavalier as to say we are only trying to help or would you understand that this is a living, breathing person we are talking about. She's not some character you read about in the news. She's their child. Yes, we need everyone's help, but why do people need to create other pages with family pictures. Why can people not just share our page? This page is an official page--what comes from this page comes directly from Madeleine's parents. It's what they want to share. ~FM Webmaster

Official Find Madeleine Campaign I would like for people to understand this from the point of view of Madeleine's parents. This is their child. How would you feel if your child's pictures were plastered all over Facebook and on questionable pages and you had no say it? Would you be so cavalier as to say we are only trying to help or would you understand that this is a living, breathing person we are talking about. She's not some character you read about in the news. She's their child. Yes, we need everyone's help, but why do people need to create other pages with family pictures. Why can people not just share our page? *This page is an official page--what comes from this page comes directly from Madeleine's parents. It's what they want to share ~FM Webmaster
The sheer hypocrisy of this couple is breathtaking. They have been instrumental in having their child’s pictures plastered all over the world’s media and the internet. They themselves released many family photos into the public domain which included members of the family, the twins and various cousins. After Madeleine’s disappearance they deliberately traipsed the twins around Praia da Luz when they could have spared them the public exposure, but of course the kids were needed then for the ‘happy family’ photo shoots/PR campaign. During the last six years they’ve continually used the twins as a human shield, constantly alluding to them, repeating what they’ve said in private and featuring them in their Mocumentary. Kate McCann published a book she claimed was written solely for her children which included more photos and documented her and her husbands sex life and a horrific imaginary description of her missing daughters abuse (and this was supposedly for the twins eyes only). The McCanns had the opportunity to have the libel trial held behind closed doors but they chose instead to have it heard in public because they needed another circus and as a consequence they exposed the twins to distressing headlines such as ‘Mum’s suicidal thoughts’ ‘Plot to kidnap McCann twins etc. IMO this request has nothing to do with Madeleine or the twins, it is just another attempt by them to control Facebook and dictate what is discussed on there as well as everywhere else.
* I suspect the Webmaster is Kate McCann.

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Post by Angelique on 10.10.13 12:42

@jeanmonroe wrote:Portia wrote:
"take the trouble to spend a few quid to inform AR/SY of any pertinent information"?
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Unlike DAVID PAYNE, who, i'm sure, has by NOW told AR/SY what he KNOWS to be pertinent and relevent 'things' to establish the MATERIAL 'TRUTH'!
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DC MESSIAH:1485 ”Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth?”

DAVID PAYNE reply ”Err the, there are a few things but I don’t think this is the right forum for bringing those up.”

1485 ”Okay.

eta: you'd love to be 'interviewed' by 1485 if you'd committed a 'crime' wouldn't you?
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"DC MESSIAH:1485 ”Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth?”

DAVID PAYNE reply ”Err the, there are a few things but I don’t think this is the right forum for bringing those up.”

1485 ”Okay."

Do you think this may have been like "the swans are flying tonight" coded message?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 10.10.13 12:48

More like 'PIGS ARE FLYING TONIGHT'!

Or

"Yeah and PIGS might FLY"

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Post by Cristobell on 10.10.13 12:51

I have had a look at the Official facebook page and agree, astounded at the latest posts.  It is curious that when the 'webmaster' (Kate) posts anything, it immediately comes up with thousands of 'likes'.  That is in units of 1000, 2000 or even 3,000 (units of 500 likes also seem to be available) and thereafter only one or two a day.  It should be noted 'Likes' are now a commodity, usually supplied by dodgy companies in India.  They make a product or a person appear more popular than they are.

But on another note, the McCanns are going to upload the Crimewatch video to their fb page and website. I would assume that they have now seen it, so we can take an educated case that they approve.  Of course, I don't suppose they have much choice, but knowing them so well, they would not promote Crimewatch if it did not promote the abduction.

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Post by Guest on 10.10.13 12:52

That does indeed not bode well Cristobell that the Crimewatch reconstruction is going to do anything other than follow the official fairy tale.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 10.10.13 12:53

@stillsloppingout wrote:Joking aside , the Met have form for fitting innocent people up Barry George for EG . 

IMO somebody [ probably perfectly innocent , in the literal sense as well] , will be receiving a knock at the door some time next week . 

All the Met etc have been doing for the past couple of year's is looking for somebody to take the hit for this " crime " . Hewlitt ? maybe, but i believe he was being watched where he lived . so that has scuppered the local Nonce theory . 

They IMO must have found either , the local village idiot ? , or somebody who will be up for taking the rap .or worst case , somebody INNOCENT is going to framed, to bring closure to this awkward situation that has arisen . 

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE LENGTHS THE YARD AND THERE PAYMASTERS WILL GO TO GET THE RESULT THEY REQUIRE IN THIS CASE .
So, not so much an E-FIT but rather more like an E-FIT UP!

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Post by sallypelt on 10.10.13 12:53

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:That does indeed not bode well Cristobell that the Crimewatch reconstruction is going to do anything other than follow the official fairy tale.
Looks like another PR onslaught. We may as well all pack up and go home.

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Post by Cristobell on 10.10.13 13:00

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I presume that is the Barack Obama lookalike.
 
There are a lot of shady characters (in the meaning of dodgy) in this story.

The Official Find Madeleine Campaign Facebook page is being regularly updated.

There's a request for everyone to respect the twins' privacy.....yes, Kate, that would be a good idea, wouldn't it?
Totally agree NFWTD, there are indeed a lot of shady characters in this story.  That is why I think it will be impossible to cover this up forever more.  And they are not all high achieving pillars of the community, some are out and out scallywags and low lives who would sell their grandmother for thruppence!

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Post by tasprin on 10.10.13 13:04

@Cristobell wrote:I have had a look at the Official facebook page and agree, astounded at the latest posts.  It is curious that when the 'webmaster' (Kate) posts anything, it immediately comes up with thousands of 'likes'.  That is in units of 1000, 2000 or even 3,000 (units of 500 likes also seem to be available) and thereafter only one or two a day.  It should be noted 'Likes' are now a commodity, usually supplied by dodgy companies in India.  They make a product or a person appear more popular than they are.

But on another note, the McCanns are going to upload the Crimewatch video to their fb page and website. I would assume that they have now seen it, so we can take an educated case that they approve.  Of course, I don't suppose they have much choice, but knowing them so well, they would not promote Crimewatch if it did not promote the abduction.
The 'likes' all bought and paid for from the Find Maddie fund no doubt.

Yes, they must be confident the 'Elite team' at Scotland Yard are conducting a whitewash. Corrupt and broken UK. What a shambles.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 10.10.13 13:08

Only FIVE days to go , Maddie.

Before mummy and daddy and Andy rescue you from your dungeon lair.

Chin up, girl.

Soon be reunited with the very loving people that created the opportunity for you to go 'missing' in the first place.

They won't let you keep the doggie your friendly 'abductor' bought you. Sorry.

Mummy and daddy don't like dogs!




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Post by Cristobell on 10.10.13 13:11

@sallypelt wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:That does indeed not bode well Cristobell that the Crimewatch reconstruction is going to do anything other than follow the official fairy tale.
Looks like another PR onslaught. We may as well all pack up and go home.
It looks that way if it has McCann seal of approval.  I am consoling myself with the thought that Andy may still be peeling away at that onion and there are only a few layers to go, but I am not hopeful.  Unfortunately, I think the McCanns may be appearing on our screens for many years to come.  Crimewatch 'fiction' however, cannot stand up to court room facts, and many more people are now looking for their news on the internet.  We must continue to get the truth out there.

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Post by galena on 10.10.13 13:20

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:That does indeed not bode well Cristobell that the Crimewatch reconstruction is going to do anything other than follow the official fairy tale.
That's what I am expecting - the first Crimewatch appeal was an embarrassing waste of time, this is likely to be more of the same. Realistically what new evidence is likely to come up in a case that was so widely publicised from day one, with police from UK and Portugal/private investigators/journalists and last - and not least - trusty internet sleuths all picking over the same material? Another PR exercise along with the new sightings, new theories to reinforce the belief that the McCanns are doing all they can to find their daughter and co--operating with the authorities.

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Post by marconi on 10.10.13 15:19

I suspect the abductor is that Barbara Streisend of the picture.

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Post by bobbin on 10.10.13 15:45

@marconi wrote:I suspect the abductor is that Barbara Streisend of the picture.
I know English is not your first language marconi, but you've lost me here.
Normally your English is very good. I'd be interested to know what your first language is by the way and how long you've been speaking English, because usually your words are very clear. yes 

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Post by marconi on 10.10.13 15:50

@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:That does indeed not bode well Cristobell that the Crimewatch reconstruction is going to do anything other than follow the official fairy tale.
Looks like another PR onslaught. We may as well all pack up and go home.
It looks that way if it has McCann seal of approval.  I am consoling myself with the thought that Andy may still be peeling away at that onion and there are only a few layers to go, but I am not hopeful.  Unfortunately, I think the McCanns may be appearing on our screens for many years to come.  Crimewatch 'fiction' however, cannot stand up to court room facts, and many more people are now looking for their news on the internet.  We must continue to get the truth out there.
Cristobell, please don't worry. This couldn't be true. The  police informing anyone, even the McCanns, before the program? The Webmaster's appeal is a cry for help not for Madeleine but for them.I don't even believe that the program is completely finished because police cases can change all the time, every moment.
Remember Gerry's words, talking about the pieces of the puzzle, found by the Yard: "we are still miles and miles away".Imo, the McCanns are manipulating us, out of dispair.
Do you believe that the PJ would allow the Yard to inform the parents or anyone else? Not at all.
If they knew what the program was, we would read a lot more on their facebook, defending themselves. What the Webmaster is writing is very vague.


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Post by marconi on 10.10.13 15:53

@bobbin wrote:
@marconi wrote:I suspect the abductor is that Barbara Streisend of the picture.
I know English is not your first language marconi, but you've lost me here.
Normally your English is very good. I'd be interested to know what your first language is by the way and how long you've been speaking English, because usually your words are very clear. yes 
my first language is Portuguese.

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Post by bobbin on 10.10.13 15:57

@marconi wrote:
@bobbin wrote:
@marconi wrote:I suspect the abductor is that Barbara Streisend of the picture.
I know English is not your first language marconi, but you've lost me here.
Normally your English is very good. I'd be interested to know what your first language is by the way and how long you've been speaking English, because usually your words are very clear. yes 
my first language is Portuguese.
Thank you, that's fabulous. Perhaps we can call upon you to help with translations when 'us non-Portuguese-speaking' members get stuck ...you must be bi-lingual with your English being so good. clapping 

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Post by Tony Bennett on 10.10.13 17:45

@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:That does indeed not bode well Cristobell that the Crimewatch reconstruction is going to do anything other than follow the official fairy tale.
Looks like another PR onslaught. We may as well all pack up and go home.
It looks that way if it has McCann seal of approval.  I am consoling myself with the thought that Andy may still be peeling away at that onion and there are only a few layers to go, but I am not hopeful.  Unfortunately, I think the McCanns may be appearing on our screens for many years to come.  Crimewatch 'fiction' however, cannot stand up to court room facts, and many more people are now looking for their news on the internet.  We must continue to get the truth out there.
I am just wondering what the next metaphor will be.

We have had:

THE MISSING KEY - the key that will unlock this mystery

THE ONION - it's like peeling off the layers of an onion

A JIGSAW - a bloke seen near the apartment may be another missing piece of the jigsaw.

Before that, of course, we had one of the most wretched metaphors of all time

BEING OVERDRAWN

It was like learning that you're overdrawn on your student loan.

Surely these people have got more metaphors than the above three?

There must be more and even better ones.

Surely?


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Post by Daisy on 10.10.13 18:08

I voted Carol Tranmer man because we've never been shown this e-fit before. In fact reading through her (second) statement it appears that this particular e-fit mysteriously went missing and she was shown an entirely different image that she disputed giving.

Her first statement was given on the 8th may 2007, this statement along with her e-fit is missing from the files.

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