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Father, 23, charged with MURDER of 'Baby Kate' two years after his infant daughter disappeared

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Father, 23, charged with MURDER of 'Baby Kate' two years after his infant daughter disappeared

Post by Guest on 08.10.13 12:19

Sad story, they still haven't found baby Kate's body........





 Father, 23, charged with MURDER of 'Baby Kate' two years after his infant daughter disappeared


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Post by Tony Bennett on 08.10.13 13:43

If he now pleads 'Not Guilty', the jury shouldn't take too long to return a verdict:

"Last July, Phillips wrote a shocking letter from behind bars to Baby Kate's mother, confessing to killing the child in a fit of rage and then dumping her body in the middle of nowhere".


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Post by plebgate on 08.10.13 15:09

Seems there is so much rage about in the World these days and unfortunately a lot of children are feeling the full force of the rage.

Baby Kate looked adorable in that picture such a shame these tiny, defenceless children have the misfortune to be born to such disgusting people, or if not born to them so many mothers seem to take up with them.

I think drink and drugs must be a big factor in all of this, it seems to be so much on the increase and yet nothing seems to be done about the alcohol and drug probs in the world.    In fact we have "celebs" writing in to papers and asking our Government to legalise drugs (even Class A) drugs should be legalised if you listen to some.

Some may say I am talking a load of twaddle (and of course I know there are other things which can cause rage),  but I very much believe that drink and drugs contribute greatly to the problem, so I very much hope that drugs are never legalised in UK.

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Post by Hobs on 08.10.13 16:24

I did an anlysis a while back 09/14/12 on a letter he wrote.

My apologies for the long post :)

This is what you want, OK. I always felt that I needed to do this in person.
That you deserved that, and that we would both need each other for that.

This is close, that is distancing, He is saying she wants to know which is why he indicates closeness to the letter.
This crops up twice, that appears 4 times
What is the THAT she deserves? the truth? he however distances himself from the truth.
Why do WE need each other for that?
Was is the that they need each other for,the truth or something else?

Also didn't feel safe writing these things anyways.
Still dont, but this can't wait any longer.

Dropped pronouns, he doesn't take ownership of feeling safe.
Since he is in jail he knows all mail is read,
These is close those is, distancing.
He is close to what he writes.
Why can't it wait?
What is happening that forces him to write this letter?

I think I could even make it though talking about that day here now.
This is close, that is distancing, he is distancing himself from what happened.
I think leads to others may think differently.
Talking about that day not writing about that day, is there a difference?
What impediment is there to him not making it through talking about that day
consequences?


I cry trying to talk about much less.
Now we see him trying to lay the blame on who he is writing to.
Is what happened all her fault?
It would explain the distancing use of 'THAT'
Trying doesn't mean succeeding.
What makes him cry that is much less than the death of his child?
Is he not crying now about the death of Kate

I just wanted to leave that day Ariel.
Just is used to minimise something.
He minimises wanting to leave

I was surprised when you opened my door and that you could have even made it down there fast enough to catch me.
What was he doing that made her run down fast enough to catch him?
Why was he surprised when she opened the door after she made it down there.
Had he done something to hinder her progress?
If he wanted to leave why would she move fast enough to get to his car?
Did he have something of hers that would cause her to move fast enough to catch him by surprise?

That and almost everything I don't think I need to say or do you actually believe the shit you told them?
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
What doesn't he think he needs to say?
Actually is used to compare two or more things.
This sounds like there was a fight and something happened that caused her to run down the stairs to catch him.
Did he take the baby from her and she ran to catch him?
What is the everything he doesn't think he needs to say?
Told is stronger than said.
What did she tell them ?
For there to be a that there also has to be a this

When I brought you back I didn't park, so that you would just get out and not pull any more shit to try to keep me there longer.
Missing time.
What happened between her opening the door and him bringing her back?
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
He tells us why he didn't park, he doesn't tell us why he did park.

Even when you sat there with the door open and foot out and I had to interrupt you three times with "I don't care" before you got out.
Three is the liar's number, he had to interrupt her three times with "I don't care".
He hasn't told us what they were arguing about.
He remembers what he said but not what she said?
No mention is made at this time of Kate being in the car.

You said something like "whatever fuck you" and "I'm gonna ruin your life" then walked around and spent a minute getting Kate out.


When was she placed in the car?
Was him putting her in the car the reason she made it down fast enough to catch him?
He hasn't told us who Kate is, no reference to our child/daughter/baby etc so an improper introduction.
Dropped pronoun in regard to walked round and got kate out.

I was pretending to be busy why my phone or something so you would hopefully just leave me alone.
He was pretending to be busy with his phone or something, what was he really doing?
Hopefully leave him alone not leave him alone, the qualifier weakens the statement

Heard the door shut, saw you walk off.
Dropped pronouns in regard to hearing the door shutting and seeing her walk off.
If he can't take ownership neither can we.

Your hands in front of you not on your sides.
Like you were holding Kate.

What was Kate doing during this fight? children get distressed when they hear parents fighting.
No mention is made of what she was doing.
Like is not the same as doing.

I drove away.
I drove away is a strong statement, i would bet it was at speed.

A blonde lady by the office and I looked at each other as I passed.
He introduces an extraneous detail, the blonde lady.
What would cause her to look as he passed?
Had she witnessed the scene or was his driving such that she looked at him?

There was some stuff I wanted to get done in town but I was tired and hung over and trying to decide whether to put it off till another time.
But is used to negate the previous sentence, in this case some stuff he wanted to do in town.
Order is important he was tired then hungover.

Stopped at Wendy's to get something to eat and for time to make up my mind, but mostly to piss.
Dropped pronoun when he says he stopped at wendy's , if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Order is important he says to eat, make up his mind but mostly to piss.
But negates the previous which is eat and make up his mond.
He doesn't tell us what he has to make up his mind about so we can't assume.

The phone kept ringing there.
The phone, not my phone.
If the phone kept ringing and it was in his pocket why the need to add the word there?
Additonal words (qualifiers) weaken the statement, it works just as well as the phone kept ringing.

I went back to the car and ate.
THE car not My car.
He doesn't take ownership of the car, if he can't then we can't either.
It is sensitive to him


The whole time that fucking phone wouldn't stop ringing.
This is close, that is distancing, it is THAT fucking phone.
If it kept ringing why not turn it off whilst he was standing up?

I could feel through my shorts to hit the volume button to silence a call, but the seat was too far up for me to get it out of my pocket to make it stop ringing because the car seat was in the way.
A call not THE call?
Which seat was too far up?
The seat is sensitive
THE seat not MY seat?
He tells us the seat was too far up and the car seat was in the way.But negates the previous words in this case to hit the silent button.
Because tells us why something happened.

It was driving me crazy and I was so mad at you.
What is the IT that was driving him crazy?
He doesn't tell us so we can't assume.

For that day for everything lately, for everything ever maybe ever.
.He now blames her for whatever happened next because he was mad at her, for that day, for everything ever, maybe ever.
What happened is her fault, she drove him to it.


When I tried to move the seat back to get the phone it was blocked by that car seat and I was pissed that you left it in there just to try to make me bring it back later.
This is close that is distancing.He distances himself from THAT car seat.
It is her fault the car seat was in the vehicle not his.
He tells us why she did something.
It was to make him try and bring it back.
Try doesn't mean succeed.

So pissed that I got out and was going to just throw it out into that area between Burger King.
So is used to explain why something happened
Dropped pronoun in relation to being pissed
.If he can't take ownership of being pissed neither can we.
He wasn't angry he was anything but.
Here he changes from Wendy's to that area between Burger King.
Where was Burger King in relation to Wendy's?
Between Burger King and what? he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.
Just is used to minimise.
This is close that is distancing.
Which way was the car seat facing?
Given what had happened the child would have been distressed, you cannot miss a crying child in a car.

I pulled but it was jammed between the seats.
What did he pull, he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.
But negates the previous, in this case the act of pulling.

That just made it worse.
That is distancing , this is close.
He distances himself from making it worse.
For there to be a that there has to be a this.

I grabbed it at the top and ripped it out as hard as I could.
What is the it, that he grabbed?

She was thrown
This Is strong.
SHE not Kate, indicates distancing.
He doesn't tell us she was thrown from the chair so we can't assume

I didn't know.
He doesn't tell us what he didn't know so we can't assume either.
he should be telling us what he did know.

I'm so sorry.
When sorry or any apology shows up in a statement it is a red flag.
He doesn't tell us what he is sorry for so we can't assume.

Held her for a long time.
Wow so many dropped pronouns, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
No pronouns in relation to holding her so it is likely he didn't

Seemed like forever.
No pronouns

Maybe an hour, maybe a minute.
No pronouns

Might not have been long.
No pronouns




I can't explain a lot.
Strong statement although he weakens it with a lot, so what little can he explain?
Anything in the negative is sensitive.

Some things can only be lived.
What are the things that can only be lived?
Are there some thing that can be lived as well as something else?

In a way I couldn't understand it.
Anything in the negative is sensitive
In a way he couldn't understand it so what way could he understand it?

It didn't seem real. I didn't want it to be.
Anything in the negative is sensitive strong statements with no qualifiers.

It felt like falling, and like my head would explode.
What felt like falling? It is interesting he introduces falling when his child has been thrown from her seat.
Strong description with no qualifiers regarding his head exploding, i would say he was describing out and out rage.
Uncontrolled anger.

Couldn't think.
Dropped pronouns in regard to couldn't think, if he can't take ownership neither can we.

Couldn't do anything.
Dropped pronouns in regard to couldn't do anything, if he can't take ownership neither can we.

It eventually sunk in or something.
He knew what he had done and was now trying to think of an excuse.
What is the IT that eventually sunk in?
What is the difference between sinking in and something?
What is the something?

I started crying
he doesn't tell us he cried only that he started crying, it often happens when someone calms down after a rage and realisation dawns.
Dropped pronoun in regard to couldn't stop, if he can't take ownership , neither can we.

I've never cried that hard, seemed like my throat was closing.
Anything in the negative is sensitive, dropped pronoun in regard to seeming his throat was closing.

Mind was racing, yet I couldn't think.
Dropped pronoun in regard to his mind was racing, he was probably in a panic.

I guess I was in shock.
He wasn't in shock he guesses he was in shock, the shock weakened by the qualifiers i guess.

I never even tried to help her.
I wonder if here he realised what had happened.
Anything in the negative is senstive, not only did he try to help her, he never even tried.

Never even thought to. Just sat there, holding her.
Dropped pronouns in regard to thinking about helping her and sitting holding her.
Sat indicates tension
Just minimises the action of sitting there, holding her.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
He doesn't think leaving it open to others to think otherwise.

I don't think anything could have been done.
Innocent parents would call 911 regardless of the injuries to their child, even if the child is in full rigor, they refuse to accept the child's death.
What made him not think anything could have been done given his claim she accidentally was thrown form her seat?

Still I used to hate myself for not trying.
Does he not hate himself anymore for not trying?
He doesn't tell us what he was not trying so we can't assume.




Think I was there an hour and that after like a half hour and that it wasn't till right before I left that I realized calling 911.
Dropped pronoun in regard to timeframe. If he can't take ownership neither can we.
What was he doing during that time in particular during the first half hour?
What would stop him calling 911 immediately it happened regardless?
What like after half an hour?
Was he cleaning up the scene, thinking of excuses?
He doesn't tell us what he realised calling 911?

It was to late.
What was too late? he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.

I wouldn't be able to talk.
Strong statement. he doesn't tell us why he wouldn't be able to talk, Guilty knowledge or fear of consequences.

I wouldn't know what to say anyways.
Why not the truth if it was an accident, accidents happen.
He wouldn't know what to say without incriminating himself..
Weere the injuries such that it could never be passed off as an accident

I couldn't bring myself to pick up that phone.
This is close, that is distancing. It is that phone, does he blame the phone in part for wehat happened?
if it hadn't kept ringing i wouldn't have got so pissed.

Scared of it and of the world.
Dropped pronouns, if he can't take ownership neither can we.

In a way I felt like it had killed her.
He gives the phone an action, it killed her, not him.
The phone killed her and so by default the mother killed her. he blames others for his own actions
In a way means other ways are also an option,.
In what way did he feel the phone killed her?
What are the other ways she was killed
To kill something is a action agressive not passive.
She died. she was killed

You and it.
Here we see him blaming the mother and the phone, it was all her fault, he wasn't responsible for his action,
We see this with the dropped pronouns.
He wont accept the responsibilty.

I needed to believe I didn't hurt her that it was all your fault.
Here he minimises killed to hurt.
Why did he need to believe he didn't hurt her?
Did he hope she felt no pain in order to salve his conscience?
This is close that is distancing, he distances it being her fault.

That sounds wrong, but I can't explain it right.
This is close that is distancing. He distances himself from the previous.
He tells us he was in shock and didn't know what he was doing which is why he didn't call 911, he admits it doesn't sound right ie plausible.


A part of me knew I was losing Haley too.
Who is Haley?


When I realized how long I must have been there seemed like even less of an option.
What seemed less of an option, he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.


I never decided to leave or anything.
Anything in the negative is sensitive. If he didn't decide to leave what is the or anything he refers to?
If it wasn't a decision what was it?

There was this urge or something I can't explain.
This is close, that is distant, he is close to the urge.
What was the something if it wasn't an urge?

Needed to get away from there or just do something, anything.


I can't explain.
A strong statement no qualifiers. can he not explain because of guilty knowledge or fear of consequences/


I drove, not to anywhere or for any reason.
You don't drive for no reason nor to nowhere.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
he now has a dead child on his hands, he hasn't called 911 he has a reason to drive somewhere.

Just drove.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we
He says drove twice indicating sensitivity. Was he looking for a place to dump her body?

A few things I suddenly realized I was driving, but couldn't remember how I came to be or where I was.
What are the few things he suddenly realized?
He realized he was driving but mentions no other things.
but negates the previous , the sudden realisation he was driving.
Anything in the negative is sentive.
He tells us he couldn't remember rather than what he could indicating sensitivity.

Almost crashed twice.
dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
What caused him to almost crash twice?
He doesn't tell us so we can't assume.
If it was bad driving he may well have been reported.
Was he speeding

The second time I stopped and pulled off the road.
Strong statement with no qualifiers.

I needed out of that car, and I just walked off.
Why did he need out of that car?
This is close that is distancing, he is distancing himself from the car.
Just is used to minimise.

After a while I stopped.
Temporal Lacuna.
What happened whilst he was walking, what was he doing?

For the first time I could think some.
For the first time since when?
he doesn't tell us so we can't assume

Thought about Kate.
Dropped pronoun. He doesn't take ownership of thinking about Kate so neither can we

Her smile, the way she looks around.
Notice here he uses present tense even though she will never look around again.
This is to be expected in parents of missing or dead children, the refusal to accept the finality of death, often for many years after the death.

Everything, what should have been.
Is he now feeling guilt since he reverts to past tense should have not will be.

I'd held her all this time, couldn't bring myself to really look at her though I did now.
He tells us earler i walked singular, now he tells us he was carrying her.
was he looking for somewhere to dump her?
Dropped pronoun in relation to bringing himself to look at her.
Anything in the negative is sensitive
Not only does he look at her n he qualifies it with really look at her.

I wanted to kill you.
Strong statement, however if as he said earlier he didn't think anything could be done is she still alive ie breathing which would match the wanted to kill you
You cannot kill which is already dead.
Who then does he want to kill?
He doesn't tell us so we can't assume.

I cried.
Strong no qualifiers.

I cried until I somehow I couldn't anymore.
He repeats cried making it sensitive.
Is he crying for Kate or for himself?

She was set in a peaceful place.
She was set sounds like he had done a ceremoney and was gently placed.
Peaceful place meaning unlikely to be found easily?
What is his definition of peaceful place?

I was walking and lost.
Why was he walking and qualified by lost
was he trying to distance himself from the dump site by coming out away from where he went in?

Couldn't breath hardly.
Dropped pronoun. couldn't breath is weakened by the qualifier hardly.
he can't take ownership of not breathing so neither can we
Was he scared of being seen?

Thought about sitting down and waiting to die of dehydration.
Dropped pronoun in regard to sitting down and dying of dehydration.
Body position indicates tension.
He introduces dehydration so it is likely he was thirst after his exhertions.

Felt close.
Dropped pronoun, what or who felt close? he doesn't tell us so we can't assume
.
Then I was driving and for the first time I realized I had left her.
temporal lacuna. what happened between him sitting down and driving?
He doesn't say where he sat down so we can't assume it was a seat, his car, a bit of grass.
What caused him to realise he had left her?

I wanted to die.
Strong no qualifiers.
he doesn't tell us why he wanted to die though, guilt or anger to deprive the mom of finding where she was dumped.
To make the mom feel guilty over their deaths


Couldn't bring myself to crash but didn't try not to.
Dropped pronoun, he doesn't take ownership of wanting to crash so we can't either.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
Note, he didn't say he tried not to or didn't try to, rather he didn't try not to.
Was his driving bad because he was in a panic?

No seatbelt, paying no attention.
Dropped pronouns
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
I would say he was paying close attention since he had just killed and dumped a child and the mom knew he had taken her, he would be aware and looking for LE

Almost did once, instinct or whatever made me save it.
Dropped pronoun, he can't take ownership so neither can we.
What is the whatever if not instinct?
Did he try and then chickened out?
What is the it he saved?

Another time I almost hit another car.
Given his driving i would wonder if calls were being made about an idiot in a car.
I would assume also he was driving at speed.

After that I drove normal, couldn't bear the thought of hurting anyone else while trying to hurt myself.
Notice he uses hurt rather than kill which would be likely in a car creash at speed.
He minimises kill to hurt
he doesn't want to kill himself rather he wants to hurt himself.
was this a part of a possible defence?
I was not in my right mind when i killed Kate, insanity, diminished responsibilty as a defence.

Then I was close to home and drying of thirst.
temporal lacuna how long was he driving for?
How close is close to home?
The adrenaline rush would have caused dry mouth.
Drying not dying of thirst as most would say?
Tried to detach myself.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Detach himself from what?
The killing, the guilt? the anger? he doesn't tell us so we can't assume

Already was in some way.
Again dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
In what way was he already detached?

Went home to be alone and to get a drink.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.


Stood in the middle of my room.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
My room indicates ownership.
Does he live in a one roomed place or does the room singualr mean something to him that it is his room.

Was still there for a while thought about taking my gun and leaving.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
he takes ownership of the gun.
He tells us leaving but doesn't tell us what he was going to do with the gun.

Me, not you anymore.
What about me?
what was not about you anymore?
he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.

Wanted to go to you but I wasn't ready for that.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
This is close that is distancing.
Why did he want to go to her?
would it have been with gun in hand?




My mom bothered me about the phone again and I knew I had to return the call.
Why did his mom bother him about the phone again?
The call singular not calls given it had been ringing constantly according to his earlier statement.
What had his mom been told in regard to the phone and the call and from whom?

I just needed to be alone.
Just is used to minimise.
If he was left alone he would be safe, he would have time to think of a stroy, an alibi.
Not being alone meant stress and reality.
If he is left alone everything will be alright

I wasn't ready to talk to anyone.
Talking meant awkward questions.
If he doesn't talk he can't be questioned.
When would he have been ready to talk.
Who is the anyone?

Just said you should have her.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
When did he tell her she should have her?
Should not could?
What did he really say?

Its true.
What is true?

Only wanted them to go away, when that didn't happen I thought I had just committed to that story.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Who is the them he wanted to go away?
Is he referring to LE after all they would have a lot of questions to ask him.
This is close that is distancing.
He committed to THAT Story.
Ciommitted meaning he couldn't change it later
Story not the facts, not what really happened.
People who tell a story rather than the truth have a reason to be deceptive ( casey anthony, charlie rogers)


That to change it would throw away any chance I had.
Changing it would reveal inconsitensies.
This is close that is distancing
It is hard to remember what lies you told to whom if you keep changing your story.
What chances did he have by sticking with the story he committed to?

That they would never believe me because of it being that day.
This is close that is distancing.
He uses that twice both in reference to the day and him being believed.
If he was innocent then there is no story, accidents happen.
What happened on that day could not be passed off as an accident if he tried to change his story.


And never believe how she came to be left there.
And indicates missing information.
Why would they not believe how she came to be left there if he changed his story?

Also figured it a reasonable story.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
It is likely he tried various versions and he went with the most plausible.
Reasonable story equals reasonable doubt perhaps.


I didn't think they could keep me for more than a couple days at the most.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.

That didn't happen.
This is close that is distancing.
For there to be a that there has to be a this.

When I met Annette I begged to talk to you alone.
Who is Annette? Improper introduction
Why the need to talk to her alone after he met Annette?

They said no.
Strong no qualifiers.
Who is They

Paul made it clear he doesn't give a shit about me or Kate or you.
Who is Paul?
Order is important, Me then Kate then You
Is Paul connected to the mom?



They weren't willing to let me talk to them not that I would.
Who is the they who weren't willing to be talked to?
He doesn't tell us so we can't assume.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
They wouldn't let him not talk to them sounds like a standoff, a battle of wills.
if he were innocent then surely it would be in his interest to talk to them to tell them the truth.

I needed you.
Strong no qualifiers
does he not need her now?

Not Tom Posma in a cold room on video.
Who is Tom?
Note this time we get the full name not just forename.
Is he something in authority as opposed to family or friends?
He describes the room as cold, his room or Tom's.
Who is on video

They even tried everything to keep me from talking to you about that day.
Who is they? he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.
Note not only they tried, the even tried indicating it was perhaps not successful
This is close , that is distancing.
it is that day distancing

I didn't accept that I wasn't getting out and getting to talk to you till about 2 weeks + in.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
What happened 2 weeks in that caused him to realsie he wasn't getting out.

After the first couple days it had seemed harder to do the right thing.
It wasn't harder it only SEEMED harder to do the right thing.
The right thing by whom?
Kate, himself or Ariel

I expected to be let out after the prelim.
What caused him to expect to be let out?
His lawyer, himself and his story?

It crushed me.
Strong no qualifiers

Like you just implied that you really don't give a fuck about Kate, only who does and does not get in trouble.
Just is used to minimise.
He weakens the don't give a fuck with really.
Notice he uses present tense don't rather than past tense didn't.
He says implied meaning others may understand differently
Why would she imply she is concerened about who gets in trouble and who doesn't rather than finding Kate/

And right before that I got Kenny, April dads interviews.
And indicates missing info.
He we have a proper introduction, Kenny, the dad of April.

They all said you don't act like your child is missing or anything.
Who is they?
He says he got the interviews of kenny (singular) yet uses the plural they rather than singular him.
What is the anything if not missing?

Then you were always trying to get recordings for court and saying stupid shit on phones.
If he were innocent then surely recordings would show his guilt.
If he is in jail all calls are recorded.
he doesn't give examples of what was said on phones

At that point I wanted you to go to prison.
Go to prison for what?
Why that point and not any other time?

Before then, I'm sorry I lied about Kate being ok.
When sorry is introduced in a statement is is sensitive and a red flag.
Why did he lie about her being ok when it's clear she wasn't?
Was he giving her false hope?
Was this all about power and control?



I wanted to tell you the truth so bad, to hold you, to be held.
What is the truth if he hadn't already told it?
What stopped him telling her the truth? guitlty knowledge or consequences?

I said that because I thought you would do something then.
This is close that is distancing
He distances from telling the truth.
If he told her the truth what did he think she would do?

Couldn't believe you wouldn't just get me the fuck out or make them allow us to talk.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
What was stopping them from talking in prison?
Wouldn't not couldn't.
What was stopping her getting him out?

For a long time blocked that day and Kate from my mind.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.

Almost refused to acknowledge it to myself.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
alomst refused is not the same as refused.
He acknowledged it to himself but not others.
Why not acknowledge it to others if it was the truth. guilty knowledge or consequences.

Eventually I thought I would just never tell you what happened. It had already been so long w/o me being able to.
This smacks of control. He has knowledge and is refusing to share it.
Just minimises the not telling.
What has stopped him being able to for so long, guilty knowledge or consequences.

That changed.
What changed?
This is close that is distancing.
For there to be a that there has to be a this.

The day I was found innocent I was going to go to you.
And do what?

It was a long time before I started thinking about her and that day.
Did he not think about her during the trial.
He started thinking doesn't meant he thought about her and that day.
Her and not kate indicates distance.
This is close that is distancing.

The nightmares, panic attacks, nothing would get better.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Whose nightmares and panic attacks.
what is the nothing that would get better?

Think about it all was horrible, but it has helped.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Think not thinking?
does he not think about it any more?
What has helped?
Not thinking about it or thinking about it.
Was not is? is it not horrible any more?

I use to hear my heart racing and almost collapse just from seeing a picture of her.
Does he not any more?
just is used to minimise, He almost collapses not actually collapses.
What is an almost collapse?

I can smile now.
Why couldn't he smile before?
what has changed that he can now smile?
being found innocent?

I can remember her the way you do, and not another way as well.
Present tense i can remember.
What other way is there to remember her if not the same as she does.
Another not the other, alive, dead, what other way is there?


I don't' think you could ever understand.
Anything in the negative is sensitive
Understand is qualified with ever weakening it.
If she knows him then she could understand at least some of the why.
Understand what?
What is there to understand.

Some things I don't completely.
What are the some things?
He doesn't tell us what he doesn't completely

I never decided to pick her up.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
Picke her up from where?
he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.
Is he blaming something else for making him pick her up?
Anger perhaps?

Never decided to call or not call 911, or to leave, or to set her down.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
If it wasn't a decision what was it?
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
is this him blaming his actions on anger rather than a rational decision.

It was like I was watching these things, not doing them, not sure what I'm seeing.
It was like is not the same as actually being.
It was like he was watching not that he was watching.
Thse is close those is distancing.
He is close to these things plural.
Dropped pronouns in regard to doing them and being not sure though he takes ownership of seeing.

The only time I thought and anything was ? was when I was standing outside and then from when I almost hit that car.
Standing outside where?
Thought what?

I wasn't dumping a body, wasn't like that at all.
A body not her body?
What was it like then?


I want her buried too.
Does this mean she wasn't covered (buried) rather out in the open somewhere.
This shows awareness of the mother's wishes.

I don't know where she was left.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
She was left, not i left her?
Distancing from the leaving of her.

Some idea.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Some idea not no idea, he probably has a darn good idea where she is and is witholding the info.

Feel like I could get there.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
He knows where she is, embedded is i could get there.

No, its not some fucking swamp or lake.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
Here we see more flashes of anger.
tells us what it isn't rather than what it is.


I know if they had left me alone I would have came to you that day.
Who is the they he wanted to leave him alone?
What would he have done if they had left him alone?
he mentioned gun earlier, was he still so angry he would have attackeed, possibly killed her?
This is close that is distancing.

I was thrown into the worst possible thing at the worst possible time.
Interesting he introduces thrown.
Worst possible thing not event or crime
What does he mean by worst possible time?
Was there a worst possible thing at the best possible time, a best possible thing at the worst possible time or a best possible thing at the best possible time/
Worst possible thing for whom? he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.
I was thrown indicates he was a victim of someone else's actions, he had no choice in the matter.
Blaming the victim perhaps.

Everything just happened, and I never had the chance to do the right thing.
What is the everything that just happened.
Things don't just happen there is a cause and an effect.
Just minimises what happened.
What is the right thing he never had a chance at.
Do the right thing by whom? himself, Kate, the mom?
It's not my fault, you didn't give me a chance.

There's been other letters to you.
Strong no qualifiers.



Ones that never were sent.
Strong no qualifiers.
Why weren't they sent?

Oddly this one has done the worst of all in telling you, yet its the one Im making myself send.
Telling her what?
worst of all in telling what?
The truth?
His excuses?
His anger?
Were there letters that did better in telling her?
Why this letter if it is the worse?

If I don't again then when?
Don't what?
Send the letter?
If he doesn't it would join the rest he didn't send and he will simply write more.


There will never be one I feel right with.
Right with what? it's contents?
Why send this one if it doesn't feel right.

These things mostly need to be talked about in person.
These is close those is distancing. he is close to the things.
Mostly means some things need not be talked about in person.
What are the things he is referring to, the crime, his time in jail, his anger? he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.

Annette has the original, tear soaked one.
If there is an original is there a copy?
Is this a copy of the original?
Why is it tear soaked?
Guilt, remorse, anger?

Addressed to you, only it includes that lie about me thinking you could have possibly killed her.
He admits he lied in regard to thinking she could have possibly killed her.
Did he claim she had in his defence?
He is blaming her for what happened, he still doesn't accept responsibilty, he did it because of her therefore it's her fault, she is guilty.


Theres still a lot things I don't understand.
What are a lot of things he doesn't understand.
A lot isn't all so there are things he does understand.
will he understand more at another time?

90% of the things you told them were lies.
10% then must be the truth.
were lies not lies.
are they not lies any more/

Some things I don't know if it was me or them you lied to them some other things.
He doesn't tell us what things so we can't assume.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
He tells us what he doesn't know not what he does know
There are some things and some other things, what is the difference/

At the time it was something how you used her and acted a lot of the time like you could give a fuck less about her.
Acted a lot of the time is not the same as all the time.
How did she use her?
At the time, does she act differently now?

How you kept dragging out the adoption, which would just make it harder on her.
What adoption?
Who was she adopting her from?
Was this a custody battle gone bad? if i can't have her no one can.

Couldn't believe you wanted to do that test before finishing the adoption that day, just to make me pay.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
This is close that is distancing.
That test before finishing the adoption that day.
What test?
Was the result of the test to make him pay?
Pay financially or another way?

I never once thought you had any intention whatsoever of keeping her.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
Did he think if she was adopted he would then not be liable for anything?
What led him to believe she had no intention of keeping her.
I killed her because i didn't think you wanted to keep her anyway?

Still don't know why so many of the things you did said or whatever.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Don't know why what things she said, said or whatever,
If you do things and says things what else is there.
So many of the things not all the things.

Blamed for so long.
Dropped pronoun, if he can't take ownership neither can we.
Who is being blamed? he doesn't tell us so we can't assume.

Theres so many stupid little things that could have made such a difference.
things as small as a phone call or using the bathroom.
How would these have made a difference?
Difference to whom?
if she had done this and not that we wouldn't be in this situation now.
Subtle blaming again.


Both of us fucked up some.
Shared guilt.
Fucked up is weaked by the qualifier some.
he minimises the fuck up.

Id give anything to go back.
Go back where?
If he would give anything why not give up the truth?

To that day, January, the summer I went to Georgia.
This is close that is distancing.
What happened on the other times he wants to go back to, January, the summer he went to Georgia.
Are they linked in some way.
The day he killed Kate, January, summer in Georgia. are in his mind connected.

I want my parents to know.
HIs parents to know what?

Things spouses tell each other is confidence cant be made to testify.
Is he saying he has told a parent something and if they tell their spouse they can't be made to testify.
Is he saying once i marry i can confess the truth and my wife can't be made to testify.
If he marries and confesses what is to stop his wife volunteering to testify?
Does he think once married he can control her?
She won't talk because she is my wife and i own her

But we aren't married yet in the eyes of the government.
Does he consider himself married in the eyes of someone other than the government.
But negates the previous which is spouses testifying.
What things would be told in confidence would mean the spouse can't be made to testify.
Told is stronger than said.

Then hearsay cant be used, so if you told then it would be hearsay as it didnt come from me.
He introduces hearsay.
Anything in the negative is sensitive.
He could tell a friend to ease his conscience and should the friend talk he can deny he ever said it and it can't be introduced.

But Grand Jury can sometimes allow hearsay.
But negates the previous so he is aware of hearsay and it is causing him concern.

Could you ask your attorney about that stuff?
Thisis close that is distancing.
That stuff.
Hearsay is clearly something that's concerning him so who has he spoken to and who did they in turn speak to.?

If you want to ask me things try to do it all at once.
Things not questions?

So we arent hearing incriminating stuff more than we need to.
He admits there is incriminating stuff. he has to talk incrimination, he doesn't want to since mail is read ( did he know or forget?)
Why is there a need to talk about incriminating stuff?
Incriminating for whom?

Out of time for mail. Destroy theses. We'll talk.
He clearly knows this letter is incriminating hence his order to destroy these.
Does he think talking will make any difference?
All calls are monitored as we saw woth casey anthony.
Does he perhaps plan to talk to his lawyer which isn't monitored and try and get messages to her that way?


He told us he killed her, he dumped the body and knows pretty much where.
this was all about power and control. he has anger issues and i can see still a risk.
He doesn't say he accidentally threw her, only that she was thrown.
I would look for first person singular past tense event specific, I did not kill Kate.
If it was an accident he would say she was accidentally thrown. he doesn't because he can't.
If it was an accident then instinct would be to call 911.
He doesn't call 911 because it was no accident and he knew they would see it was murder.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 08.10.13 17:55

Hobs!

Absolutely fascinating.

But so very very sad.

I have learnt a lot from your posts here.

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Post by Hobs on 08.10.13 23:34

Thanks Tony, I have learnt a lot from commentators here as well.

Sadly the downside of learning statement analysis is once learned it cannot be unlearned.

Once you use it it will always be there running in the background quietly, without even thinking  you are listening to what people say or write rather than what you think they said or meant.

Many is the time i have had the news on in the background and a word will catch my attention and i'll listen  more closely as little red flags and alarm bells go off.

It can be  the number three ( the liars number Mark McClish, it can be something like well or to be honest that will make my SA go ding ding.

The hard part is not using it on my family or friends as it is a surefire way to lose them real fast.

I am lucky in that i can turn it down to a degree and i will  not pay much attention to the little white lies that everyone does, myself included, however, if it is a whopper or concerns something important or serious then i will use it and explain what i am hearing and that i need them to be truthful.

I use it in my line of work and it has proved invaluable, i will tell them if you come clean and admit you did  whatever they did against the tos and i didn't see it ( i had a name in the room but the comment/threat was a while back  or it was via ims) i will say i won't penalise you i just need you to tell me the truth, they will admit they did a naughty thing , i keep my promise not to penalise them though i will tell them it is in my report so support are aware and they will take any action needed if it is ongoing ( especially if we get a lot of complaints about them but we can't catch them in the act)

I wonder if i can perusade the DWP to pay for an online course?

Being a raspberry ripple I can no longer do the work i used to do  which involved a lot of bending lifting and all sorts of physical work. I shall ask next time i waddle in for my fit to work (fit to drop) interview  big grin

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