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Post by susible on 11.10.13 12:40

Oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall at Rothley Towers right now.  I don't believe for one minute that SY are keeping the Mc's informed of every detail of the investigation, so can you imagine what the Mc's are currently thinking, if of course they are involved in Madeleine's disappearance, whilst they will be terrified of being caught, but at the same time wondering WTF as SY start producing e-fits, crimewatch specials etc and thinking "what the heck do they think they know"  Simultaneously thinking "wow we're home free" and "cr@p what are the police really up to"

And of course with the ongoing libel trial, which they look certain to lose (whilst inadvertently publicising Snr Amaral's book and theory) and an ever increasing public backlash against them (more and more media sources allowing comments, which at the very least criticise them for leaving the children alone) I imagine the McCanns are currently very uncomfortable.

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Post by paddinton on 11.10.13 12:46

Hi Susible,

I completely agree with you.

I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday.  It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely.  The idea of appearing live alongside police officers on a massively hyped show that is to be shown all over the world must be rather intimidating.

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Post by marconi on 11.10.13 12:50

check on McCannfiles. You can see the proaganda video of the BBC.
Redwood talks about "a revelation moment".

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Post by Guest on 11.10.13 13:04

@marconi wrote:check on McCannfiles. You can see the proaganda video of the BBC.
Redwood talks about "a revelation moment".
It's here now too Marconi..........

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7982-youtube-bbc-crimewatch-promo

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Post by Cristobell on 11.10.13 13:06

candyfloss wrote:
@marconi wrote:check on McCannfiles. You can see the proaganda video of the BBC.
Redwood talks about "a revelation moment".
It's here now too Marconi..........

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7982-youtube-bbc-crimewatch-promo
I've just seen it on the telly Candyfloss, feel sick.  They really are covering it up.  

We need to up the ante!

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Post by susible on 11.10.13 13:12

Hi Paddington, yes absolutely, I also wonder if the SY announcement was in an effort to see what the McCanns reaction would be, and of course they would not have been disappointed, what with all the media spin from the McCanns about people being arrested during the show etc (which SY denied) I imagine that SY have gleaned a lot of information about the McCanns modus operandi 

Will Gerry smirk when SY hold up a new e-fit picture and talk about the possibility of Madeleine still being alive as he has done in the past when confronted with information about possible sightings?  What about the ear tugging and nose scratching, will Mr and Mrs sit together grappling each others thighs as per their normal appearances?  Will the police be watching them closely as they did with the Philpotts?

I really can't believe that SY are genuinely touting the McCanns theory, there is just too much publicly available information, which would make them look ridiculous, but the McCanns must also know that and be in a state of confusion right now...a recent press report stated they were baffled, which is a change from their "fury, pain, anguish, agony, rage etc"  they are simply baffled...I'll bet they are (I know I am lol)

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Post by marxman on 11.10.13 13:49

@marconi wrote:check on McCannfiles. You can see the proaganda video of the BBC.
Redwood talks about "a revelation moment".
I noticed that 'revelation' word coined by Redwood, and I thought,
could this be some sort of code, in a biblical sense?
From the Book of Revelations, also described as the Apocalypse! 
A hidden meaning to some?
He did say it WAS a revelation moment.

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Post by cass7 on 11.10.13 14:26

think this crime watch has been done because of what is going off in portugal at min - but also the end of the review - they tried failed end off - nothing new move on - no need for a fund - because imo that is why the review started - we looked tried now close the fund

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Post by Monty Heck on 11.10.13 14:35

@galena wrote:
@aquila wrote:Redwood and the Jill Dando/Barry George wrongful arrest/incarceration debacle.

Jacqui Hames, MET police officer and Crimewatch presenter absolutely screwed over by the MET, the Press and BBC Crimewatch.

Redwood now going onto Crimewatch re Madeleine case with pre arranged media exposure to whip up an audience and announce an e-fit which may or may not be pertinent.
I'm guessing quite a lot of political pressure has been put on SY to come up with something to help the McCanns and they have managed to cobble something together from some hitherto unreported sighting of a 'suspect' - very likely something that has been discussed in these kind of forums.  'Suspect' for these purposes seems to cover any human being (probably male but not one of the Tapas 9) seen anywhere in the vicinity of the apartment at any time who might be considered to be a bit 'dodgy'. Once you ignore the (statistically most likely) theory that the parents and their associates were involved, it means that everyone else in the area is in the frame!
It is also statistically likely that one or more of the T9 would have seen the 'suspect' while they were bobbing back and forth from the Tapas that night.  Going by their statements there were few other people around the apartments that night, JW being a notable exception, and not one reported seeing anyone suspicious that night, that day or indeed any other day.  So will the tourists being called on in this appeal to report anything suspicious they witnesed, be able to come up with anything now when they could have reported this any time in the past 6 years, and when the T9 have testified there was nobody about and therefore it was all so safe?

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Post by galena on 11.10.13 14:42

@Monty Heck wrote:
@galena wrote:
@aquila wrote:Redwood and the Jill Dando/Barry George wrongful arrest/incarceration debacle.

Jacqui Hames, MET police officer and Crimewatch presenter absolutely screwed over by the MET, the Press and BBC Crimewatch.

Redwood now going onto Crimewatch re Madeleine case with pre arranged media exposure to whip up an audience and announce an e-fit which may or may not be pertinent.
I'm guessing quite a lot of political pressure has been put on SY to come up with something to help the McCanns and they have managed to cobble something together from some hitherto unreported sighting of a 'suspect' - very likely something that has been discussed in these kind of forums.  'Suspect' for these purposes seems to cover any human being (probably male but not one of the Tapas 9) seen anywhere in the vicinity of the apartment at any time who might be considered to be a bit 'dodgy'. Once you ignore the (statistically most likely) theory that the parents and their associates were involved, it means that everyone else in the area is in the frame!
It is also statistically likely that one or more of the T9 would have seen the 'suspect' while they were bobbing back and forth from the Tapas that night.  Going by their statements there were few other people around the apartments that night, JW being a notable exception, and not one reported seeing anyone suspicious that night, that day or indeed any other day.  So will the tourists being called on in this appeal to report anything suspicious they witnesed, be able to come up with anything now when they could have reported this any time in the past 6 years, and when the T9 have testified there was nobody about and therefore it was all so safe?
I doubt the credibility of any 'sighting' remembered after all this time. I can barely remember the people I saw out and about yesterday let alone 6 years ago!

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Post by nobodythereeither on 11.10.13 15:38

@paddinton wrote:
I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday.  It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely. 
Of course it will be shown on Monday.

They're not going  to these extraordinary lengths solely in order to lull or confuse the McCanns, what would be the point of that?

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Post by susible on 11.10.13 15:54

@nobodythereeither wrote:
@paddinton wrote:
I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday.  It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely. 
Of course it will be shown on Monday.

They're not going  to these extraordinary lengths solely in order to lull or confuse the McCanns, what would be the point of that?
What also would be the point of showing a story that directly conflicts the statements the McCanns themselves gave, statements that are available to everyone.  Both the BBC and SY are currently desperately trying to save face after some serious scandals, neither can really risk being held to account for portraying wildly inaccurate material on a (inter)national tv show, which is supposed to deal only in facts.

They really would be digging themselves a massive hole if they are trying to use this to paint the McCanns as innocent, unless they truly do have some evidence that is a revelation imo.

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Whose running the BBC???? the mccanns ????

Post by biggurllypants on 11.10.13 16:01

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 Kate and gerry have banned the showing of the new show in Portugal !!!!!!!liar   The one place that  has the answers to the disappearance of Maddy  what     -  What power have they???  


  They can ban anything from showing ANYWHERE  in the world ???  dontgetit 

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Post by Guest on 11.10.13 16:03

@biggurllypants wrote:notme 
 Kate and gerry have banned the showing of the new show in Portugal !!!!!!!liar   The one place that  has the answers to the disappearance of Maddy  what     -  What power have they???  


  They can ban anything from showing ANYWHERE  in the world ???  dontgetit 
According to the papers they banned filming in Portugal so as not to upset the police IIRC.  The Portuguese TV station said it had not been approached to show the programme.


ETA - these are the words.......

However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from  taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.

Instead they have allowed filming to go ahead in neighbouring Spain, with actors playing the roles of the anguished
couple.

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Post by Ayniia on 11.10.13 16:05

@susible wrote:
@nobodythereeither wrote:
@paddinton wrote:
I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday.  It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely. 
Of course it will be shown on Monday.

They're not going  to these extraordinary lengths solely in order to lull or confuse the McCanns, what would be the point of that?
What also would be the point of showing a story that directly conflicts the statements the McCanns themselves gave, statements that are available to everyone.  Both the BBC and SY are currently desperately trying to save face after some serious scandals, neither can really risk being held to account for portraying wildly inaccurate material on a (inter)national tv show, which is supposed to deal only in facts.

They really would be digging themselves a massive hole if they are trying to use this to paint the McCanns as innocent, unless they truly do have some evidence that is a revelation imo.
Because only "us vile internet trolls " will notice the discrepancies, while the "good people " will support the "loving caring parents that done nothing wrong ".

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Post by Sceptic on 11.10.13 16:06

IMHO SY have created a link between Carole Tranmer sighting and
 Annie Wiltshire and Jayne Jensen sighting

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Post by tiny on 11.10.13 16:07

well I am happy to be a vile internet troll,Madeleine is my first concern and I want to see justice for her

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Post by MrsC on 11.10.13 16:07

@biggurllypants wrote:notme 
 Kate and gerry have banned the showing of the new show in Portugal !!!!!!!liar   The one place that  has the answers to the disappearance of Maddy  what     -  What power have they???  


  They can ban anything from showing ANYWHERE  in the world ???  dontgetit 
Now THAT is the question!

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Post by ShuBob on 11.10.13 16:10

@Sceptic wrote:IMHO SY have created a link between Carole Tranmer sighting and
 Annie Wiltshire and Jayne Jensen sighting
Well, it looks like it was Payne the sisters saw laughat 

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Post by nobodythereeither on 11.10.13 16:12

candyfloss wrote:
@biggurllypants wrote:notme 
 Kate and gerry have banned the showing of the new show in Portugal !!!!!!!liar   The one place that  has the answers to the disappearance of Maddy  what     -  What power have they???  


  They can ban anything from showing ANYWHERE  in the world ???  dontgetit 
According to the papers they banned filming in Portugal so as not to upset the police IIRC.  The Portuguese TV station said it had not been approached to show the programme.


ETA - these are the words.......

However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from  taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.

Instead they have allowed filming to go ahead in neighbouring Spain, with actors playing the roles of the anguished
couple.
That's surely just spin.

Kate and Gerry would not be in a position to "ban" something being produced by the BBC and SY, surely.

Nor would they be in a position to "allow" filming to go ahead anywhere.

If they are, then truly we may as well all just give up, because it is all rotten to the core.

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Post by biggurllypants on 11.10.13 16:23

Kate and Gerry would not be in a position to "ban" something being produced by the BBC and SY, surely.

Nor would they be in a position to "allow" filming to go ahead anywhere.

If they are, then truly we may as well all just give up, because it is all rotten to the core.






My point exactly so who is he puppet master    IMHO  Surely the best place to  show this  is in PORTUGAL    where she was last known to be     


Nothing makes any sense  splat  

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Post by susible on 11.10.13 16:23

@Ayniia wrote:
@susible wrote:
@nobodythereeither wrote:
@paddinton wrote:
I wonder if the Crimewatch programme will actually be shown on Monday.  It might just be a device, either to lull the suspects into a false sense of security, or to confuse them completely. 
Of course it will be shown on Monday.

They're not going  to these extraordinary lengths solely in order to lull or confuse the McCanns, what would be the point of that?
What also would be the point of showing a story that directly conflicts the statements the McCanns themselves gave, statements that are available to everyone.  Both the BBC and SY are currently desperately trying to save face after some serious scandals, neither can really risk being held to account for portraying wildly inaccurate material on a (inter)national tv show, which is supposed to deal only in facts.

They really would be digging themselves a massive hole if they are trying to use this to paint the McCanns as innocent, unless they truly do have some evidence that is a revelation imo.
Because only "us vile internet trolls " will notice the discrepancies, while the "good people " will support the "loving caring parents that done nothing wrong ".
That may have been the case in the past, but with the libel trial being made public and people realising that they can access all of the info on the internet, I do believe that things are changing.  Even media outlets are opening up their comments and very few are supportive of the McCanns now.  The fact that the McCanns have been in everyone's faces for the last 6 years, constantly begging for more help, I believe is starting to annoy the public and whilst many are still in the dark about the "simulated abduction" theory they are now expressing anger at the fact they left the children alone to go drinking, so Kate's We did nothing wrong is probably not going to go down well

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Post by tiny on 11.10.13 16:34

Just had a thought(I know, I know:biggrin: )what if this bbc crimewatch,is really showing us that it could NOT be an ABDUCTION

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Post by susible on 11.10.13 16:42

@tiny wrote:Just had a thought(I know, I know:biggrin: )what if this bbc crimewatch,is really showing us that it could NOT be an ABDUCTION
Exactly Tiny, that could be a possibility, I've often thought that SY are working to eliminate every other possible scenario before turning back to the only real possibility imo

And of course it will be watched by millions blowing any support for the McCanns right out of the water.

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