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Post by plebgate on 28.09.13 11:37

@bobbin wrote:
@plebgate wrote:
@Humanist wrote:Does anyone think that there might be another reason for Gerry to be in Portugal.
Maybe it is not about having a fucking good time.
Perhaps they had the grace to give him the opportunity for further questioning
and a guise of attending a court case.

The witnesses all stink.
A bit like Clarence Mitchell being the best thing to make them look guilty
Isabel Duarte is just sealing it up.
Who is she actually working for?
She should be disbarred -

I still maintain that I want every single person who has lied and obfuscated this case
in any significant way to also be arrested.
We do not stop here.

There are powers behind the scene protecting themselves.
How do we know that they asked that the court be open - how do we know that Isabel Duarte
did not request it on anothers suggestion and they just had to go along with it.
Maybe the witnesses were sourced by sources who knew they would be so incredible that they
would sign seal and deliver Kate and Gerry as the sole guiltors in the mystery of Madeleine McCann for so many years.

Am I the only one who sees the final curtain.
Wouldn't be surprised if he was there for another reason.

Thursday, Pinky tweeted about street dogs in Portugal
Then an announcement shortly afterwards that Mr. would be in Portugal, having requested (one day earlier it transpires) that he give evidence

IIRC Mrs. said she had been bitten (not too badly) be a roaming dog in Portugal.

Coded messages maybe?   who knows but it doesn't hurt to keep the old brain ticking over.  lol.



Coded messages, plebgate, I initially agreed and it may still be true, but am not too sure now.
Ponky could just as well have asked GCHQ to intercept a messaging route and send a coded message direct, or even gone into GCHQ himself, with his own personalised strawberry pink swipe card and intercepted the message re-routing system himself.
I googled ONCA in Brighton and the film was about raising funds to 'neuter' street dogs, improve animal sactuaries etc.
Much as I think the Pink One is one of the biggest t*ts on this planet, I do think the people of Brighton do seem to be having fun.
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I like the sense of humour behind the 'Bone Henge' of donated tins of dog-food. big grin lol4 

Hi Bobbin. Gotta laugh haven't we. Yes I agree with what you say, BUT you never know. big grin big grin big grin 

If anything I am more inclined to think that sometimes they put things into the public as a kinda "in joke", as someone posted earlier in the week, not sure which thread, but if they do, then all I can say is they have a peculiar soh imo. Mr Mrs 

As tommy said on twitter though, thought he didn't trust dogs. ha ha ha.




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Post by sallypelt on 28.09.13 11:41

@aiyoyo wrote:
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@Newintown wrote:
@ShuBob wrote:Did anyone notice how Gerry kept looking towards Isabel Duarte during questioning from reporters outside court perhaps hoping she'll step in and answer the questions? Unfortunately for him, Madam Duarte wasn't having any of it and just smiled as his discomfort increased laughat 
Yes, I did notice that, I thought I was the only one.  He kept looking at her and she was ignoring him.

Oh dear.  smilie

ETA: ID was probably thinking "I told you you should have been on the witness stand from the beginning, but you wouldn't listen to me, it's too bl**dy late now, the damage has been done with your useless witnesses".  laughat
Yes I noticed it too and was shocked at how she seemed to almost be laughing in his face, unless of course that is a permanent smirk she has.

Did anyone find a video of the interview that didn't strangely stop half way through?  I would love to know what else he had to say and why we couldn't see it?
Between Lawyer and client, usually the lawyer looks like cat and the client the mouse.
This pair -  Gerry is the arrogant mighty cat and ID the timid mouse.....as if about to be crashed....
She looks intimidated by the client.........


Gerry is the mighty Giant and ID the faint hearted mouse....
My mind goes back to last February? when someone asked (we now know it was the McCann's) if they could postpone the trial to see if Amaral would come to an agreement. I am cautiously optimistic that this tells us all we need to know about what way this case will go.

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Post by aiyoyo on 28.09.13 11:50

He's going to quote the Final Report selectively, only those bits that fit his agenda, and he's going to emphasise the magnitude of their sufferings because the book poison the public against them blah blah blah....how the search has been harmed.......blah blah blah....

Let's see how the Judge is going to jolt his memory that there was no longer any official search when the case was shelved....and remind him also about the two fold Final Report.......

I bet he's going to be just another one like that arrogant ignorant editor lady who interrupted every one that they couldn't get a word in edgewise......she was talking for the whole court and running with her own comments and putting her own opinions into every question....she was an embarrassment .......


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I am putting this here - because it seems slightly relevant.

Post by PeterMac on 28.09.13 11:52

From GA's book.
Chapter 16
A few days later, we welcome Mark Harrison, a specialist in
murder, and the search for missing persons and victims of natural disasters.
National advisor to the British police, he is well known for his exceptional
professional experience. He has already participated in dozens of international
criminal investigations.
. . .
After a week of intense work, Harrison presents the results of his study to my
coordinating group. Even if we were expecting it, his conclusions confirm our worst
fears. The most plausible scenario is the following: there is no doubt that
Madeleine is dead, and her body is hidden somewhere in the area around Praia
da Luz.
He praises the quality of the work carried out by the Portuguese authorities
in trying to find the little girl alive. According to him, the time has come to redirect
the searches in order to find, this time, a body hidden in the surrounding area.
So Dr McCann.  Are you also suing Mark Harrision ?

And if not WHY NOT ?

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Post by plebgate on 28.09.13 11:57

Well we all know he can get quite huffy if asked a question he doesn't like, so if he is allowed to give evidence he will have to watch his step in the court.

Is he able to do that, well we will have to wait and see (HOPEFULLY).





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Post by Guest on 28.09.13 11:58

MADELEINE McCANN'S dad was seething last night after his bid to confront a detective who accused him of a cover-up was halted.

Seething, Strong word Jerry, did he give you an interview for tomorrow's paper?

Snipped

Mr Oliveira told reporters: “I hope you are not going to make a big fuss about it and say it’s Goncalo Amaral’s fault.’’

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/341434/Gerry-McCann-libel-case-halted-against-Portuguese-police-chief-over-Maddy-abduction-
 
Mr Oliveira seems to be aware of what would have been reported!!

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Post by Guest on 28.09.13 11:59

@PeterMac wrote:From GA's book.
Chapter 16
A few days later, we welcome Mark Harrison, a specialist in
murder, and the search for missing persons and victims of natural disasters.
National advisor to the British police, he is well known for his exceptional
professional experience. He has already participated in dozens of international
criminal investigations.
. . .
After a week of intense work, Harrison presents the results of his study to my
coordinating group. Even if we were expecting it, his conclusions confirm our worst
fears. The most plausible scenario is the following: there is no doubt that
Madeleine is dead, and her body is hidden somewhere in the area around Praia
da Luz.
He praises the quality of the work carried out by the Portuguese authorities
in trying to find the little girl alive
. According to him, the time has come to redirect
the searches in order to find, this time, a body hidden in the surrounding area.
So Dr McCann.  Are you also suing Mark Harrision ?

And if not WHY NOT ?
 
 
Perhaps the media and all journalists should be sent a copy.  One of or own praises the work carried out by the Portuguese.........if you read here - take note!

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Post by Seek truth on 28.09.13 12:07

@jozi wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:When I am cynical again: GM knew [knew] that he couldn't be heard today as a witness. Now the case has been adjourned till next Wednesday. Which will be a good 5 days since his request so he can/has to be heard. Bingo!
IMO, of course, IMO.

Chinese saying: Be careful what you wish for ...
Is this true ? Am I reading this right......Gerry applied to be a witness and arrived at the court knowing full well he would not be allowed to give evidence ?

But now the court proceedings were postponed due to illness, Mr Amaral and his defense team are here given enough time for them to prepare for this witness and can now allow Mr Mac to be called into the witness box

My word if this is true Gerry has just scored a massive home goal !!!

Perhaps they realized this when he was being interviewed outside of the court ! No wonder he looked sheepish and was looking at the floor ?
Probably.

But then the boys surgery was just convenient?

Firstly.
1- what time did GA lawyer tell somebody about the surgery?
2- what time did Gerry decide to book his flight?

Was it after finding out about the boy being ill? He knew he wouldn't be able to be seen.
After all,
1- they were advised to keep away 
2- ID doesn't want him too either 
3- AND he did say he wasn't sure if he'd be allowed to! 

Will he really allow himself to be cross examined? Will the judge dare?

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Post by Cristobell on 28.09.13 12:10

The 'controller' believes his authoritative testimony will put an end to all this nonsense, no-one else has presented the mccanns' case properly, so he must step in himself.  The sackings will come later.

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Post by aquila on 28.09.13 12:14

I wonder who the McCanns plan to sue next (if any). A win against Amaral is anyone's guess so far - it's the usual circus and press drama that is the McCann brand but by the look of things it's not going well in Camp McCann.

Do they have a 'to do' list with a 'to sue' section?

I ask this because it appears they spend a lot of time in litigation and if this million bucks doesn't arrive will there be another accusation of libel popping up? or will they throw in the towel and get down to searching for Madeleine?

They seem to me to be damaging their own reputations now, especially as the UK taxpayers are forking out on the search for justice for Madeleine, their daughter.

 

Just my opinion of course.

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Post by sallypelt on 28.09.13 12:16

According to the BBC report, I Duarte needs two replacement witnesses. So, if Gerry can fill in for one of them, and now with the few days adjournment, this has given Kate time to ask for her to take the stand. Now what a show THAT would be.

P.S. I wonder who the two witnesses were going to be. Someone from the Tapas 7 maybe?

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Post by Cristobell on 28.09.13 12:42

@aquila wrote:I wonder who the McCanns plan to sue next (if any). A win against Amaral is anyone's guess so far - it's the usual circus and press drama that is the McCann brand but by the look of things it's not going well in Camp McCann.

Do they have a 'to do' list with a 'to sue' section?

I ask this because it appears they spend a lot of time in litigation and if this million bucks doesn't arrive will there be another accusation of libel popping up? or will they throw in the towel and get down to searching for Madeleine?

They seem to me to be damaging their own reputations now, especially as the UK taxpayers are forking out on the search for justice for Madeleine, their daughter.

 

Just my opinion of course.
This trial must be hugely damaging to their reputations.  Not so long ago, they were portraying themselves as victims of the press, yet they opposed Goncalo Amaral's application to have the trial heard in camera. How does that gel with the Hacked Off Campaign. How can you complain about press intrusion whilst actively seeking publicity? 

They are asking for compensation for trauma the twins may suffer in the future should they stumble across GA's book on the internet, oblivious to the very real damage they are doing now with the sensational headlines on the news stands in their home town.  

The evidence they have produced so far proves nothing. No real psychologist is going to take the stand and claim a book causes more emotional trauma than losing a child and then being made arguidos.  

Whether Gerry intended to take the stand or not, it now looks as though he has no choice.  I have a feeling it is going to be one of those A Few Good Men 'you can't handle the truth' moments, Gerry has a very short fuse.

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Post by bobbin on 28.09.13 13:00

@plebgate wrote:
@bobbin wrote:
@plebgate wrote:
@Humanist wrote:Does anyone think that there might be another reason for Gerry to be in Portugal.
Maybe it is not about having a fucking good time.
Perhaps they had the grace to give him the opportunity for further questioning
and a guise of attending a court case.

The witnesses all stink.
A bit like Clarence Mitchell being the best thing to make them look guilty
Isabel Duarte is just sealing it up.
Who is she actually working for?
She should be disbarred -

I still maintain that I want every single person who has lied and obfuscated this case
in any significant way to also be arrested.
We do not stop here.

There are powers behind the scene protecting themselves.
How do we know that they asked that the court be open - how do we know that Isabel Duarte
did not request it on anothers suggestion and they just had to go along with it.
Maybe the witnesses were sourced by sources who knew they would be so incredible that they
would sign seal and deliver Kate and Gerry as the sole guiltors in the mystery of Madeleine McCann for so many years.

Am I the only one who sees the final curtain.
Wouldn't be surprised if he was there for another reason.

Thursday, Pinky tweeted about street dogs in Portugal
Then an announcement shortly afterwards that Mr. would be in Portugal, having requested (one day earlier it transpires) that he give evidence

IIRC Mrs. said she had been bitten (not too badly) be a roaming dog in Portugal.

Coded messages maybe?   who knows but it doesn't hurt to keep the old brain ticking over.  lol.



Coded messages, plebgate, I initially agreed and it may still be true, but am not too sure now.
Ponky could just as well have asked GCHQ to intercept a messaging route and send a coded message direct, or even gone into GCHQ himself, with his own personalised strawberry pink swipe card and intercepted the message re-routing system himself.
I googled ONCA in Brighton and the film was about raising funds to 'neuter' street dogs, improve animal sactuaries etc.
Much as I think the Pink One is one of the biggest t*ts on this planet, I do think the people of Brighton do seem to be having fun.
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I like the sense of humour behind the 'Bone Henge' of donated tins of dog-food. big grin lol4 
Hi Bobbin.   Gotta laugh haven't we.   Yes I agree with what you say, BUT you never know. big grin big grin big grin 

If anything I am more inclined to think that sometimes they put things into the public as a kinda "in joke", as someone posted earlier in the week, not sure which thread, but if they do, then all I can say is they have a peculiar soh imo.  Mr Mrs 

As tommy said on twitter though, thought he didn't trust dogs.  ha ha ha.



funnily enough, you've just reminded me, I do know someone who works for the newspaper industry who when making presentations deliberately 'slips' something ridiculous in and then continues, as if nothing happened, with the rest of the serious presentation. It's an in joke amongst the 4 or so presenters, and the target audience are left scratching their heads a bit...did we hear that properly, or was it just me?....nah....
The bemused looks of the targets is a source of great entertainment over the beers that follow down at the pub. British sense of humour...? big grin 

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.09.13 13:02

@sallypelt wrote:According to the BBC report, I Duarte needs two replacement witnesses. So, if Gerry can fill in for one of them, and now with the few days adjournment, this has given Kate time to ask for her to take the stand. Now what a show THAT would be.

P.S. I wonder who the two witnesses were going to be. Someone from the Tapas 7 maybe?
Reading AG's 'list' of witnesses yet to come i did notice that Ma Healy has been 'omitted'

Wouldn't you think that she, as the 'missing' child's grandmother, would be almost the ONLY one that could vouch for her daughter's 'distress and stuff' after KM had read a copy GA's book given to her by MW?

SH is the plaintiffs MOTHER!

Surely she's not been booked on the Granny Express to the UK, AGAIN!

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Post by jozi on 28.09.13 13:28

@Seek truth wrote:
@jozi wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:When I am cynical again: GM knew [knew] that he couldn't be heard today as a witness. Now the case has been adjourned till next Wednesday. Which will be a good 5 days since his request so he can/has to be heard. Bingo!
IMO, of course, IMO.

Chinese saying: Be careful what you wish for ...
Is this true ? Am I reading this right......Gerry applied to be a witness and arrived at the court knowing full well he would not be allowed to give evidence ?

But now the court proceedings were postponed due to illness, Mr Amaral and his defense team are here given enough time for them to prepare for this witness and can now allow Mr Mac to be called into the witness box

My word if this is true Gerry has just scored a massive home goal !!!

Perhaps they realized this when he was being interviewed outside of the court ! No wonder he looked sheepish and was looking at the floor ?
Probably.

But then the boys surgery was just convenient?

Firstly.
1- what time did GA lawyer tell somebody about the surgery?
2- what time did Gerry decide to book his flight?

Was it after finding out about the boy being ill? He knew he wouldn't be able to be seen.
After all,
1- they were advised to keep away 
2- ID doesn't want him too either 
3- AND he did say he wasn't sure if he'd be allowed to! 

Will he really allow himself to be cross examined? Will the judge dare?
He will have to if Amaral and his team give the go ahead ....He ( Gerry ) thought he was being smart but its turned out he has shot himself in the foot big time !!!

No wonder he was fuming LOL

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.09.13 13:41

GLAD to see that Trish ' when they last checked at half past nine, windows shut, shutters shut, all asleep, sleeping' Cameron IS going to give 'evidence'!

Memo to Trish: Madeleine was supposedly 'abducted' as your brother TOLD you at 9:15/20pm when his friend Jane saw Madeleine being carried off from a distance of 50 (FIFTY) metres.

Obviuosly, the 'abductor' went back to 5A, just after 9:30pm.........10/15 minutes AFTER, he 'abducted' Madeleine to 'jemmy the shutters' and open the window!

He must have forgotten to 'set the scene' when he was there at 9:15/20pm.

But he went back to correct that!

That's alright then.

Whew, PANIC over!

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Post by Guest on 28.09.13 13:45

@Seek truth wrote:
@jozi wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:When I am cynical again: GM knew [knew] that he couldn't be heard today as a witness. Now the case has been adjourned till next Wednesday. Which will be a good 5 days since his request so he can/has to be heard. Bingo!
IMO, of course, IMO.

Chinese saying: Be careful what you wish for ...
Is this true ? Am I reading this right......Gerry applied to be a witness and arrived at the court knowing full well he would not be allowed to give evidence ?

But now the court proceedings were postponed due to illness, Mr Amaral and his defense team are here given enough time for them to prepare for this witness and can now allow Mr Mac to be called into the witness box

My word if this is true Gerry has just scored a massive home goal !!!

Perhaps they realized this when he was being interviewed outside of the court ! No wonder he looked sheepish and was looking at the floor ?
Probably.

But then the boys surgery was just convenient?

Firstly.
1- what time did GA lawyer tell somebody about the surgery?
2- what time did Gerry decide to book his flight?

Was it after finding out about the boy being ill? He knew he wouldn't be able to be seen.
After all,
1- they were advised to keep away 
2- ID doesn't want him too either 
3- AND he did say he wasn't sure if he'd be allowed to! 

Will he really allow himself to be cross examined? Will the judge dare?
Yes, the Judge will allow GM to take the stand, provided dr Amaral, TV1 and Guerra y Paz give the green light for this to happen. 

IF GM should request to be allowed to testify under oath, that is. That's a very big IF. 

So far, we have seen not a single shred of evidence he did so, nor any hint he will. 

Another thing. Isabel Duarte did not reach her professional status by being a nitwit. She knows the facts, the Files and everything else that matters in this case. She -ID- must be aware of the fact that the McCs so far have been going down in flames, by their lamentable choice of cranky witlesses. She must have a trump up her sleeve, or she must think she has one. 

My interpretation of the Friday Courthouse steps performance, and her behaviour there is as follows. 

She knows she has been selling the McCs down the drain. She knows GM knows. They both know. Kate has done a Blighty. On the Steps, she was so utterly ashamed by her lousy performance, that she just grinned to hide her embarrasment, avoiding all eye-contact with her wealthy client who had just given her a succinct piece of his mind, just out of sight/earshot of the media;

OR:

Mistress Isabel and mr McCann are in cahoots, and they know the only purpose now is to create as much sympathy for the McCs as humanly and inhumanly possible, in order to pre-empt the fall of the Sword of Damocles poised above the McCs head since the start of the SY review.

Like I said: the famouser & famouser they appear, the less likely anyone in the UK will dare to touch them.

Almost, as when Kate Healy tried to shoo away the PJ, hectoring them on the effects her arrest would make on het parents: "What will my parents say!!?"

Indeed. 

And now mother Healy has been axed from the list of witnesses, we will probably never know

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.09.13 13:56

Yes, the Judge will allow GM to take the stand, provided dr Amaral, TV1 and Guerra y Paz give the green light for this to happen.
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Probably, maybe, the ONLY time they will get the chance to get 'weasel boy' into a real witness box, under oath, and subject him to proper 'questions'!

So i bet they agreed YESTERDAY that he should be allowed to give 'evidence'

Just imo.

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Post by sallypelt on 28.09.13 14:04

So, to recap, who turned up in court, yesterday? Gerry McCann and sister? Anyone from Kate's side?

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Post by Guest on 28.09.13 14:43

Stranger still: Kate & Gerry do not operate in tandem this time. 

Maybe they dare risk only having one of them in Portugal at one time; not the two of them at the same time, so as not to run the risk of both of them being arrested there together

Which would clearly not be in the twins best interests

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Post by tiny on 28.09.13 14:53

Whats the matter with I D,s head, in the video outside the court with g speaking she was swivelling it this way and that,very odd

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.09.13 14:58

@Portia wrote:Stranger still: Kate & Gerry do not operate in tandem this time. 

Maybe they dare risk only having one of them in Portugal at one time; not the two of them at the same time, so as not to run the risk of both of them being arrested there together

Which would clearly not be in the twins best interests
27/09/2013.
Wheresssssssss Kate?

The more i see 'apart' the more i think.......................

Also they must have read my post about them both being on Portuguese soil at the same time!

27/09/2013
PART of my 'disappeared' post

Does GM know that SY/PJ are co-operating TOGETHER and following up new evidence from new/old witnesses?
Ergo, imo, the case has been re-opened in some form.
I think egoman and faceless woman may well get a shock when they leave court laughing and the PJ arrest them, to help with their enquiries, with new evidence they have uncovered, from new/old witnesses statements.
Immediately slapping arquido/arguida status on the pair of them.
They could hardly state/protest publicly that they weren't going to help the police, thus hampering the search for their daughter, when that is what they have accused GA of.
The PJ will never have a better opportunity than tomorrow if egoman shows his face.
Remember that the PJ officer in charge, before they did a runner, recommended pulling them both in for further questioning, 10th Sept 2007 but, imo, the UK Govt got wind of that and got them out of there, sharpish!
With both of them on Portuguese soil the PJ might just go for it, with the tacit help of SY.

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Re: Gerry McCann may be witness at libel trial tomorrow - Jerry Lawton **UPDATE** TRIAL ABANDONED FOR TODAY

Post by marconi on 28.09.13 15:02

I repeat what I said before.
The pressure on the McCanns must be terrifying. The hearing, the Yard investigation and internet. According to Kate's book and one of the witnesses now, he had a break down in 2007 and after July 2008.
It was too much for him.
He was giving up everything.
For goodness sake, what was Maddie's cause of death? Beyond an accident, wasn't it?  Why did blood sprayed around behind the couch? A tracheotomy? It would not be a reason not to call an ambulance.
Is it true that there are rumours that she broke her neck?

IMO

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Re: Gerry McCann may be witness at libel trial tomorrow - Jerry Lawton **UPDATE** TRIAL ABANDONED FOR TODAY

Post by tiny on 28.09.13 15:11

@marconi wrote:I repeat what I said before.
The pressure on the McCanns must be terrifying. The hearing, the Yard investigation and internet. According to Kate's book and one of the witnesses now, he had a break down in 2007 and after July 2008.
It was too much for him.
He was giving up everything.
For goodness sake, what was Maddie's cause of death? Beyond an accident, wasn't it?  Why did blood sprayed around behind the couch? A tracheotomy? It would not be a reason not to call an ambulance.
Is it true that there are rumours that she broke her neck?

IMO
I think IF he did have a breakdown we would have heard about it from the media.What with kates mental health issues and now this breakdown of gerrys,
who has been looking after the twins....I don't believe either of the mccanns had any mental illnesses at all.

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