LIBEL TRIAL DISCUSSION HERE

sharonl wrote:

tiny wrote:

candyfloss wrote:50 comments already...

Kate McCann 'had suicidal thoughts'

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/kate-mccann-had-suicidal-thoughts-221247682.html

And not ONE good word for Kate, seems a lot more people can see through their lies

tiny wrote "a lot more people can see through their lies".

But is that true?

Look at the 50 comments so far, and nearly every one says things like "They shouldn't have left a three-year-old unsupervised".

It's clear that the vast majority of people still believe that Madeleine was abducted and that this was caused by leaving the children on their own between 9.10pm and 10.00pm on 3/5/7.

It only goes to show how successful the McCann Team's campaign has been.  

Hardly anyone seems to think that the 'checking on the children every half-hour' story and Madeleine's abduction might be an elaborate hoax - a cover story for something quite different that happened to Madeleine that week.

Alan Pike wrote:When I spoke to the family about the film this is what I found.

They were extremely 'I think I was the only person she shared this with' angry and very disappointed and very frustrated.

"It was broadcast on TV in Portugal and the McCanns felt there was little or no chance of Madeleine ever being found in Portugal."

ShuBob wrote:

pennylane wrote:If I were Kate, I think the guilt alone would destroy me!

I suspect this is exactly what is happening. She's just using Amaral as her cover.

ShuBob wrote:Is Alan Pike truly and independent trauma counsellor brought in by Mark Warner? Remember he's from Skipton, the same place as Kate's relative Michael Wright who may be one of their witnesses at this trial. Is that just another coincidence in a long list of coincidences?

Woofer wrote:This must be doing untold damage to Gerry`s career.  Will he have any clients left?

Woofer wrote:This must be doing untold damage to Gerry`s career.  Will he have any clients left?



Gerry vanished. He knows they lost their battle. The Yard could be nearly ready with their investigation.  Arrests will be made.
Kate is trying to blackmail the Judge, convincing her that Amaral is a lier.

She misses Rebekah, does not she?

sharonl wrote:

gbwales wrote:The company in which Pike is a partner - CCP - http://www.ccpsupport.co.uk/ - says on their website (in a timeline feature across the foot of the page) that they had someone onsite a day after Madeleine's disappearance.

He appears to have a BA (Hons) in Social Science & Psychology - that's not a medical or clinical degree.

He was for a while a Child Protection Social Worker in local government.

"Clinical" support is only mentioned in relation to work at CCP (where he is a partner - does he make his own job titles there perhaps?)

Basically I don't see any evidence of a full clinical background, and he largely seems to describe himself online as a 'professional in trauma care' (never a psychologist) and in providing 'support' and 'counselling'.

More about Alan Pike and his partner Martin Alderton from a Madeleine Foundation article in 2009:

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Centre for Crisis Psychology (CCP)

The shadowy group from Skipton, supposedly experienced in disaster counselling, who sent out two of its top people within two days of Madeleine disappearing, to give counselling to the McCanns. They came out very early indeed, considering that there was at that time a real possibility that Madeleine could be found.

On Monday 14th May, the Craven Herald [Yorkshire Newspaper] had carried the following report:

“Two specialist trauma counsellors from Skipton have flown out to Portugal to help the devastated parents of missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann. Consultants Alan Pike and Martin Alderton from the Centre for Crisis Psychology (CCP), based at Broughton Hall, have been by the side of Gerry and Kate McCann since their daughter Madeleine was abducted…The two experts were appointed by Mark Warner, the company which manages the resort, to assist Mr and Mrs McCann, both 38, on how best to deal with the stress and trauma of their terrible ordeal…

“Mr Pike, who is leading the team, flew over to the resort with Mark Warner managing director, David Hopkins, the day after Madeleine disappeared. Mr Alderton, who has counselled those affected by major disasters across the country, arrived the following day. A spokesman for Mark Warner said: ‘The Centre for Crisis Psychology (CCP) came highly recommended by industry partners and have been known to us for some time. Their experience in dealing with a variety of incidents is second to none’.

“Staff from the Skipton centre also visited Mark Warner's head office in London to offer counselling to employees last Wednesday. A spokesman for the Skipton centre said: ‘We are working with Mark Warner and cannot discuss any information because of commercial confidentiality. We have got two trauma consultants working on the incident. Everyone all over the country has been gripped, it is a very difficult case’. Mr Pike's experience in trauma work includes domestic violence and abuse, child abuse, emergency planning and assessment, and adoption.

Since joining CCP in 2004, he has been involved in consulting with companies following road traffic accidents, personal attacks, terrorist bombings, shootings, robberies, drowning and staff bereavement. Mr Alderton provided clinical support following the 2003 Manchester motorway minibus crash in which seven people died”.

That was a very heavy degree of involvement from this Skipton-based group from a very early stage. On 4th May, both Mark Warner’s managing director, David Hopkins, and Alan Pike, flew out to Praia da Luz. An unspecified number of Mark Warners’ staff were ‘counselled’ at Mark Warners HQ. Already, it was clear that this was no ordinary case. The ‘Craven Herald’ added for good measure: “The focus has shifted from a local search for Madeleine to an international child abduction inquiry, amid suggestions she may have been taken out of Portugal”.

From this report we may deduce that, already, Skipton was very close to the nerve centre of the operation to support the McCanns. The company CCP appears to have been deployed in the past by Richard Branson, who of course has strongly and financially backed the McCanns, and who also is or was the President of the ‘UK Citizens Arrested Abroad Committee'.

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