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Re: Yet another good one from Blacksmith

Post by lj on 16.08.13 19:33

Yep, Kate is one sick puppy, sorry dogs, it's just an expression.

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Post by lillyofthevalley on 16.08.13 20:38

From what I've read over the last 7 years, my view is that Kate is the one that is been protected
Look at how Kate has aged and looks terrible and Gez hasn't changed one bit!

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Absolutely brilliant. MUST READ ! ! !

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 16.09.13 9:29

laugh 

Here it is in full (tooooo funny!):

Sunday, 15 September 2013

On a lower note…


I don't want to lower the tone but while I was writing the previous post the Truth Machine on my desk spat out an entry on a  Mr "Pedro Silva". I need to reprogram the machine  since "Pedro" doesn't exist and is therefore not eligible for fib-processing, having been invented by the Full Time McCann Supporter "BB" on her personal forum-fiefdom,  to fill the long-standing vacancy for a single Portuguese who believed a word the McCanns said.

BB is no Shakespeare. To say that "Pedro"'s character is not fully developed would be an understatement: BB gave Pedro what she fondly thought was broken English to speak (which never improves, despite his long contact with the British) on her fiefdom and rounded out his personality by making him utter  belches of  scatological hostility to Amaral, calling everyone except GA "my friend" and then, having posted various inconsequential links to the case, disappearing before having to answer questions.  Occasionally, though,  he and his creator have had conversations, taking surrealism to new and giddy heights.

The one thing that in several years existence the Portuguese Mr Silva has never done  is to write a single word in his native language. Anyway, he's a good comic turn and everyone knew he was an invention, as various comments on the Net about his non-existence demonstrated. But something strange, and for BB disturbing, occurred.  A nonentity, apparently  intent on entrapment,  popped up on a little  "pro" forum and posted a message asking, straight faced,  "Pedro" to translate a news article for  him! Urgently.

There was a deep, deep silence and no doubt, up in the Scottish mists, a sharp intake of breath.

Was this someone attempting to humiliate her? Was it a trap? In the strange half-world of the FTMS where a bewildering array of entities is created every day  nobody can be trusted. Perhaps BB scratched her chin and consulted her memory… who knows… Honestbroker, that was the nonentity's name… Had she created him? She couldn't remember. Had she created him and he'd been taken over and was being used against her?

With this background it is no surprise that  BB stalled,  despite the urgency of the request. A whole day elapsed before the reply finally came: an extremely non-committal reply consisting of a risible  Google Translate cut and paste piece of junk without, shall we say, learned commentary.

Honestbroker, how could you? How could you lay such a vicious trap for poor old BB by pretending you believed in "Pedro"?

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Post by Guest on 16.09.13 9:32

Those are people on the jakty (or however they spell it) forum, aren't they?

That is one weird place. Even stranger if it's just one person posting away to herself *shudders* 

Is BB Kate?

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Post by Guest on 16.09.13 9:39

Hehehe, hoisted by one's own own petard.


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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 16.09.13 9:45

Poe wrote:
Those are people on the jakty (or however they spell it) forum, aren't they?

That is one weird place. Even stranger if it's just one person posting away to herself *shudders* 

Is BB Kate?
I wouldn't think so cos BB is always posting even when Kate is doing sofa interviews and telling lies under oath (Leveson) etc.
Maybe it's Philomena? She's Scottish. big grin 

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Post by Guest on 16.09.13 10:05

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:
Poe wrote:
Those are people on the jakty (or however they spell it) forum, aren't they?

That is one weird place. Even stranger if it's just one person posting away to herself *shudders* 

Is BB Kate?
I wouldn't think so cos BB is always posting even when Kate is doing sofa interviews and telling lies under oath (Leveson) etc.
Maybe it's Philomena? She's Scottish. big grin 
I missed the Scottish mist bit  

Funnily enough, locally to me, the term "Scotch mist"  means something you can't find or doesn't exist big grin

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Post by Guest on 16.09.13 11:11

Same meaning of Scotch mist here and I'm an Essex girl - well, one word out of two is correct. 
 
"Bonnybraes" conjures up images of beautiful scenery.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z3AQWpdlKw

The reality is something resembling a toxic waste site.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 16.09.13 11:31

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Same meaning of Scotch mist here and I'm an Essex girl - well, one word out of two is correct. 
 
"Bonnybraes" conjures up images of beautiful scenery.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z3AQWpdlKw

The reality is something resembling a toxic waste site.

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Which is what her forum is.

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Post by PeterMac on 16.09.13 11:33

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:
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Which is what her forum is.
I had always assumed there were 5 people inhabiting that cloaca.
It appears now there are only 4 !

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 16.09.13 11:41

@PeterMac wrote:
Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:
big grin
Which is what her forum is.
I had always assumed there were 5 people inhabiting that cloaca.
It appears now there are only 4 !
I had to look up that word blushing1 

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Post by Guest on 16.09.13 11:42

For the benefit of others who like me didn't know the word cloaca.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca

Very appropriate indeed!

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Post by Guest on 16.09.13 12:11

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:For the benefit of others who like me didn't know the word cloaca.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca

Very appropriate indeed!
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Sokay, I didn't want any lunch nah

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Post by russiandoll on 16.09.13 12:57

Personally I see them like this photo, a select little band of merrymakers condescending to entertain a few like- minded individuals from time to time. You need to click to enlarge.


  

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Post by russiandoll on 16.09.13 17:32

I usually honour his wish to just post a link, but this is too good and considering what it is dealing with, here is today's offering in full .


The Interrupted Investigation.



Libel diary- international appeals


Supporters of the McCannite faction trying to leave Lisbon earlier today
Bloodshed
The United Nations today issued its strongest appeal yet for an end to the bloodshed in Lisbon.
"Whatever view we take," said a smiling Ban Kdi Fee, watched closely by an unsmiling President Putain with a poisoned umbrella tucked neatly under his jacket, "it can't be right that innocents should be left completely unprotected by the international community. Nor that one side should be faced with such overwhelmingly superior enemy force."
Since General Izzy Do What, Eh?'s attempt to surrender was rejected her captured forces have been suffering terrible atrocities.
Decisive Obama Intervention
"The church," said President Obama, who likes to say BIG WORDS followed by LONG PAUSES, just like this, "has been violated. Mother Theresa Hubbard was sent into that combat zone under the impression that she was Carrying the Word to the Godless. She wore neither body armour,  body lotion nor a chastity belt." He pursed his lips in that way he has."She was then exposed to brutal interrogation. Now, after being assisted out of the zone, she is in seclusion."
"This madness has to stop," said Ken Loach 94, aged sideburned Trotskyite – the umbrella twitched under the jacket –  communist film maker and UK national treasure who wears clogs both in bed and out. "Film makers deserve protection: my daughter, who needs to earn to pay my for care home fees and pork scratchings,  walked into that interrogation room with her head held high and then had to be carried out after a nervous breakdown, all because she told a few lies. She was foaming at the mouth. Where is the conscience of the west?"
Bad Smell Returns
Angus MacBride, a human rights lawyer mercilessly rolled over by the Amaral Squad, was almost too upset to speak. His skull-like features and bad teeth notwithstanding he struggled to put on a ghastly smile. "I thought I knew all about f****** murderers and child vaporizers", he muttered, referring to his role in arranging plastic surgery for war criminal "Pincers" Pinochet in the Matto Grosso and to his successful redacted, "but they made me cry. Why? Just because I didn't have any answers. You can't make a lawyer answer questions – it's unheard of."






On Other Pages
The Red Cross: "Have mercy. Allow the defeated to leave."
The Guardian: "Mr Amaral, whom  we've always respected, should consider the twins and give these poor people safe passage. We wish him well."
Tony Parsons: "The Portuguese invented thumbscrews as well as tinned sardines. Nuke them."
The Mirror: "Why Mr Amaral has now convinced us."




In Our Teenage Supplement, page 23 
Photo shoot – President Putain in tights showing his chest like you've never seen it before!
Show biz – Andy Redwood, leader of comedy band  The Singing Lumberjacks,  looks bemused and names his favourite cider.
 
 
 

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The Gift Relationship


I wrote of the triumph of “voluntarism”  the other day, referring to the fact that “we” – we know who we are – are now largely independent of the MSM and its ill-educated, greedy whims regarding the McCann/Amaral affair.
I know how strongly many people feel about “the breaking of the spell” in the UK media so that the disappearance of the child is treated more critically and I respect their views. I know also how people feel that MSM publication somehow validates a story, although that, perhaps, is a hangover from the days when “journals of record” actually existed.
But those contentious issues are quite separate from the value the MSM has for us in McCann/ Amaral affair information terms: our dependence there was 90% once and now it’s pretty much zero. Instead the information that matters is reaching us from court reports, personal information and our own researches in the case files and other primary sources.
But how does it reach us? Through unpaid and voluntary collective effort involving years of work, all without charities, dodgy funds, leaders, managers.
Long before the Internet an idealistic  British economics professor wrote a book comparing voluntary blood donation with the then  paid American-type model: he called it The Gift Relationship and demonstrated how superior the results of the former were to the latter. People who have only come to this case recently may not be aware of the scale of the Gift Relationship in our field – all of it, of course, free to use.
Database/ cuttings library,  – The McCann Files. Daddy of them all.
Database, the GM blogs & much associated material - Pamalam
Database, the McCann PJ files translations – Pamalam
Database, legal document collection, interviews and opinion pieces, rogatory interviews, broadcast material with Portuguese emphasis – Joana Morais & friends.
Translations, case files, other documents, used by the database sites above, an enormous voluntary translation effort over a number of years, collated and posted on the Maddie Case Files site.
Translations, news items, – since summer 2007, court judgements, critical documents, nearly all available before the paid translations in the MSM, the heroic Astro.
A public fund, to assist Goncalo Amaral, payments structure, appeals, publicity - Joana Morais and colleagues.
Individual information initiatives, – reports, photos & videos of PDL and other critical areas, individuals at  their own expense.
I have only named those that spring to mind at once and, perhaps controversially, excluded debate forums and personal investigation initiatives from the list. Nor have I even touched on the personal sacrifices made by the givers.
Yes, in my usual  combative way I’ll look at what the MSM and supporters of the parents, in contrast, have offered, if anything  –  but not now, not here: this, in keeping with its status as a gift, deserves to be celebrated on its own.

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Post by russiandoll on 17.09.13 9:18

Moving this up as it is a fantastic read.

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Post by Angelique on 17.09.13 9:28

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Thank you for posting Blacksmith's latest. It's very good, he has certainly excelled!

I read this late last night and it cheered me up.

He completely takes my breath away sometimes - The Gift is memorable. It gathers together all those dedicated people who have strived and given so much.

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Post by russiandoll on 17.09.13 21:20

latest from today  :


17 September 2013

Libel trial–the claims

The old Bureau's legal advisor who also made the coffee and had many other duties poor sod has written a personal view. Since he was never paid it may be all rubbish but who knows?
At first he was concerned about commenting on a case still being heard. I pointed out to him, however, that in summer 2007 a certain Kate & Gerry McCann had established the principle of ignoring legal system requirements in other countries by refusing to observe them and systematically leaking to the UK media.   Faced with precedent he said yes. What goes round comes round. 
I have amended, in places, his rather dry writing style.
The Writ
The libel writ was issued in 2009 and given to the Mirror only by the parents as an exclusive, an unusual way of commencing legal action. The article, or propaganda, outlined the claims and it can be found on McCann Files. No other précis of  the document   was ever provided for the UK public by the couple.
The Central Claims
The writ outlined two factual claims of great importance:
1) The book, is made up of “lies” and is “manipulative, perverse, false, destructive, defamatory, deeply damaging and therefore illegal.”
2) Significant damage caused directly by this illegal action to Kate and Gerry McCann caused them "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear". Kate McCann is "steeped in a deep and serious depression…totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotional and family point of view, beyond the pain that the absence of their eldest daughter causes them".
Establishing the libel and gaining the 1.2 million clearly involves evidence demonstrating that the book is "lies" and "illegal" and  secondly producing evidence to prove the medical and psychiatric claims.
Enter The Nonsense
In addition the writ added to these central claims two opinions, which, unlikely as it sounds, they were possibly intending to argue. If it ever came to court.
1a) "Madeleine has been deprived of the possibility of a fair and adequate investigation into her disappearance, putting her moral and physical integrity at serious risk."
2a) “The lawsuit also highlights their fears for four-year-old twins Sean and Amelie when they start school later this year and begin to hear rumours that Madeleine is dead.”
Note that neither of these two involves what UK law calls a “tort”, a clearly definable civil wrong, such as, say, "making illegal and untrue claims in a book" or “destroying another and causing them anxiety & depression”.
1a) and 2a)  are not breaches of anything. A “deprivation of …investigation” could only be legally proved if a tort had been committed, that is if a legal entity, for example, refused to investigate a crime.
To claim that expressing a view has caused a state action or inaction (re the search) when the view was expressed by someone not in a position to order or refuse such an investigation is to claim that anything can eventually follow from anything, innocent or otherwise, and as such has no place in a European court of law.
The second concerns “fears” about the future which again are no part of a legal process: there is no chain of evidence than can possibly decide the reality of such a fear  factually in advance.
Therefore both claims are in my opinion  forensically indeterminate, that is, there is no basis for deciding them with evidence.
Determination of the truth
We shall see in the coming days whether witnesses or evidence will be produced to demonstrate the lies that Amaral is alleged to have told, although under Portuguese law, truth alone would not be enough to prove the defamation.
As for the second, consequential, claim, a very serious one involving harm – where’s it gone? Where are the doctors who diagnosed these specific medical conditions, the medication and so forth, and will defend their diagnoses under defence questioning? I’ve seen no sign of them yet, only subjective comments by friends etc. that the McCanns haven’t been happy. That may well be true but it has nothing whatever to do with the specific claims in 2).
That leaves the two junk claims. Only the claimants and their lawyer know why these have been given greater and greater prominence in the case at the expense of the determinate claims 1) and 2). What changed their minds since 2009?
In my view the witnesses questioned about these two have not been inadequate or “badly briefed” (you cannot “brief” witnesses) but have simply told the truth, which is that the claims are neither true nor false but indeterminate opinion (like my feeling that it may rain tomorrow), which is why all of them, including the exceptionally clever Mr Macbride,  could not give useful answers – there are no accurate answers to an indeterminate claim, otherwise known as a nonsense.

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Post by PeterMac on 17.09.13 21:27

"permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear".
Kate McCann is "steeped in a deep and serious depression…totally destroyed from a moral, social, ethical, emotional and family point of view, beyond the pain that the absence of their eldest daughter causes them".

And here is the evidence.
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Whoever caused this degree of distress should be ashamed.

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Post by Guest on 17.09.13 22:34

Goodness knows what Kate must look like when she's been on the happy pills if this is what she's like when in the depths of despair and depression.

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Post by lj on 18.09.13 2:48

Maybe like this:


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Post by russiandoll on 18.09.13 8:14

To save space, should I just post a link as I used to do recently? We all seem to be aware of the writings of BS and those who like the style and content can easily access it by a click . Am happy to copy the pieces over in their entirety , guess it is what members and admin find preferable.

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