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Post by Tony Bennett on 28.08.13 21:39


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Post by listener on 28.08.13 22:35

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Does anyone know of any un-biased internet news sites? -  Thanks
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Post by tigger on 29.08.13 7:01

@listener wrote:Signed -
Does anyone know of any un-biased internet news sites? -  Thanks
(Sick of Auntie & Sky)!
Try Russia Today - I found they were the only ones telling the truth about Libya and about Fukushima right from the start.
The website is very good. I'm neither a socialist or a communist so no political agenda here, just real news.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.08.13 8:41

@tigger wrote:
@listener wrote:Signed -
Does anyone know of any un-biased internet news sites? -  Thanks
(Sick of Auntie & Sky)!
Try Russia Today - I found they were the only ones telling the truth about Libya and about Fukushima  right from the start.
The website is very good. I'm neither a socialist or a communist so no political agenda here, just real news.
 Agree, when I get the chance, I watch RT News, and it sometimes opens your eyes about a number of world events - about which we only get one biased view over here - Syria being a prime example.

Good news this am, Miliband made Cameron lose his temper last night by saying Labour couldn't agree to authorise military action in principle, and it's clear that a significant number of Conservative and Liberal Democrat MPs won't let Cameron do what he wants.

On the BBC Radio 4 Today progsamme this morning, the vacuous Nick Clegg said we ought to drop bombs on Syria because 'it was more likely than not' that the chemical attack eight days ago was carried out by Assad's forces.

'More likely than not' as a basis for acts of war against Syria?

Are we not entitled to proof?

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Post by tigger on 29.08.13 10:28

Somebody do something about this Clegg, the work-experience stint as backseat driver for Cameron hasn't really worked has it? I know that it's tradition in the UK to select the  most incompetent party member for the post of deputy prime minister but they've really gone too far this time. sad

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Post by Woofer on 29.08.13 10:29

We flippin` better get proof - and not sexed up proof either - reckon there will be hell to pay for the government if they don`t.  I heard on R4 last night, the Eddie Mair programme, a replay of the speech Blair gave before bombing Iraq - my goodness, was it eerie.  Maybe the BBC played it on purpose just to remind people how we all got conned by this man.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.08.13 11:01

@tigger wrote:Somebody do something about this Clegg...
Somebody already has!

This poseur has been well and truly exposed in this popular YouTube video that has had 2,500,000 views so far.

I expect it'll get a few more plays as the 2015 General Election draws ever nearer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDjRZ30SNo

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Post by Guest on 29.08.13 11:15

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@tigger wrote:Somebody do something about this Clegg...
Somebody already has!

This poseur has been well and truly exposed in this popular YouTube video that has had 2,500,000 views so far.

I expect it'll get a few more plays as the 2015 General Election draws ever nearer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDjRZ30SNo
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Tony, thank you for that link, I have laughed till I cried....brilliant

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Post by joyce1938 on 29.08.13 11:23

I have just tried to sign the patition ,but it is saying ,my e mail address not recognised ,I have had it for years    joyce1938

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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.08.13 11:32

@joyce1938 wrote:I have just tried to sign the patition ,but it is saying ,my e mail address not recognised ,I have had it for years    joyce1938
I think you have to type it twice, and if you make an error the second time, it won't work. Try once more

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Post by Woofer on 29.08.13 11:44

As well as signing the petition, I have emailed my MP (for all the good that will do !).

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Post by Penfold on 29.08.13 11:50

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@joyce1938 wrote:I have just tried to sign the patition ,but it is saying ,my e mail address not recognised ,I have had it for years    joyce1938
I think you have to type it twice, and if you make an error the second time, it won't work. Try once more
True joyce
 -you have to 'verify' email address. Good luck!

PS Tony -I signed too.

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Post by joyce1938 on 29.08.13 12:01

Have tried again ,a message pops up to say I must use a valid e mail address ? whats all that about ?   joyce1938

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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.08.13 12:33

@joyce1938 wrote:Have tried again ,a message pops up to say I must use a valid e mail address ? whats all that about ?   joyce1938
I am not sure where you live. Do you live abroad? Maybe it is rejecting a foreign e-mail address?

PS to 'candyfloss' - so glad the Clegg video made you laugh. I used to get the Readers Digest and there was always a column in there titled 'Laughter -The best medicine'.

There is something truly hilarious about the Clegg vid - he is such a pretentious buffoon, and putting his pious words into music was sheer genius

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Post by Rufus T on 29.08.13 12:43

Thanks for the link, duly signed  and shared with my friends.

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Post by tasprin on 29.08.13 12:52

extract of cached Mail article (original deleted)

The Big Picture blog (via the Spivey site - useful sometimes, Tony)

August 24, 2013

Cached Copy of Scrubbed Article Confirming US and UK Backed Chemical Weapons in Syria
For those who can’t believe our governments are complicit… (You gotta love the Way Back Machine.)
BUSTED! US, UK, BACK FALSE FLAG CHEMICAL ATTACK IN SYRIA



DAILY MAIL 29 JANUARY 2013

U.S. ‘backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime’
Leaked emails from defense contractor refers to chemical weapons saying ‘the idea is approved by Washington’
Obama issued warning to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that use of chemical warfare was ‘totally unacceptable’

By Louise Boyle

PUBLISHED: 14:16 EST, 29 January 2013 | UPDATED: 14:16 EST, 29 January 2013
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Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad’s regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.

A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme ‘approved by Washington’ is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.

Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.

War games: An explosion in the Syrian city of Homs last month. It has been now been suggested that the U.S. backed the use of chemical weapons to spur international military intervention

According to Infowars.com, the December 25 email was sent from Britam’s Business Development Director David Goulding to company founder Philip Doughty.

It reads: ‘Phil… We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.

‘We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have.

‘They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.
‘Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?
‘Kind regards, David.’

Britam Defence had not yet returned a request for comment to MailOnline.

Leaked: The email was allegedly sent from a top official at a British defense contractor regarding a ‘Washington approved’ chemical attack in Syria which could be blamed on Assad’s regime

The emails were released by a Malaysian hacker who also obtained senior executives resumés and copies of passports via an unprotected company server, according to Cyber War News.

Dave Goulding’s Linkedin profile lists him as Business Development Director at Britam Defence Ltd in Security and Investigations. A business networking profile for Phil Doughty lists him as Chief Operationg Officer for Britam, United Arab Emirates, Security and Investigations.
The U.S. State Department had not returned a request for comment on the alleged emails to MailOnline today at time of publication.

However the use of chemical warfare was raised at a press briefing in D.C. on January 28.
A spokesman said that the U.S. joined the international community in ‘setting common redlines about the consequences of using chemical weapons’.

http://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/cached-copy-of-scrubbed-article-confirming-us-and-uk-backed-chemical-weapons-in-syria/


There is an interesting article on Russia Today re the reasons for US/UK intervention in Syria:
The war on Iran begins…in Syria
Eric Draitser is an independent geopolitical analyst based in New York City and the founder of StopImperialism.com.
http://rt.com/op-edge/us-war-iran-begins-syria-096/

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Post by jozi on 29.08.13 13:41

@Woofer wrote:We flippin` better get proof - and not sexed up proof either - reckon there will be hell to pay for the government if they don`t.  I heard on R4 last night, the Eddie Mair programme, a replay of the speech Blair gave before bombing Iraq - my goodness, was it eerie.  Maybe the BBC played it on purpose just to remind people how we all got conned by this man.
Too right Woofer, I was one of the conned on Iraq's ( WMD ) and we all know how that turned out to be a BIG,FAT LIE !

Its now happening again as British and American Governments ARE hell bent on blaming Assad......although they have NO proof what so ever,they don't or will not even consider it could be anything else but Assad.

It said today that there is no way that they will ever know for certain who carried out the attack...........if so, why are they hell bent on bombing Syria ???

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Post by Guest on 29.08.13 13:43

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@joyce1938 wrote:Have tried again ,a message pops up to say I must use a valid e mail address ? whats all that about ?   joyce1938
I am not sure where you live. Do you live abroad? Maybe it is rejecting a foreign e-mail address?

PS to 'candyfloss' - so glad the Clegg video made you laugh. I used to get the Readers Digest and there was always a column in there titled 'Laughter -The best medicine'.

There is something truly hilarious about the Clegg vid - he is such a pretentious buffoon, and putting his pious words into music was sheer genius
Quite so, and so very well done too, that tune is quite catchy, I keep singing 'I'm sorry' big grin  and to think I used to be a supporter of his big grin

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Post by jozi on 29.08.13 14:07

Signed and went through.

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Post by Woofer on 29.08.13 14:17

@jozi wrote:
@Woofer wrote:We flippin` better get proof - and not sexed up proof either - reckon there will be hell to pay for the government if they don`t.  I heard on R4 last night, the Eddie Mair programme, a replay of the speech Blair gave before bombing Iraq - my goodness, was it eerie.  Maybe the BBC played it on purpose just to remind people how we all got conned by this man.
Too right Woofer, I was one of the conned on Iraq's ( WMD ) and we all know how that turned out to be a BIG,FAT LIE !

Its now happening again as British and American Governments ARE hell bent on blaming Assad......although they have NO proof what so ever,they don't or will not  even consider it could be anything else but Assad.

It said today that there is no way that they will ever know for certain who carried out the attack...........if so, why are they hell bent on bombing Syria ???
It must be pressure from elsewhere - lots of people in our government are `friends of Israel` - I can only think Israel have got our government by the short and curlies somehow - could also be to do with pressures from bankers, oilmen and arms manufacturers.  It certainly ain`t what the voters want.

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Post by listener on 29.08.13 14:37

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@tigger wrote:
@listener wrote:Signed -
Does anyone know of any un-biased internet news sites? -  Thanks
(Sick of Auntie & Sky)!
Try Russia Today - I found they were the only ones telling the truth about Libya and about Fukushima  right from the start.
The website is very good. I'm neither a socialist or a communist so no political agenda here, just real news.
 Agree, when I get the chance, I watch RT News, and it sometimes opens your eyes about a number of world events - about which we only get one biased view over here - Syria being a prime example.

Good news this am, Miliband made Cameron lose his temper last night by saying Labour couldn't agree to authorise military action in principle, and it's clear that a significant number of Conservative and Liberal Democrat MPs won't let Cameron do what he wants.

On the BBC Radio 4 Today progsamme this morning, the vacuous Nick Clegg said we ought to drop bombs on Syria because 'it was more likely than not' that the chemical attack eight days ago was carried out by Assad's forces.

'More likely than not' as a basis for acts of war against Syria?

Are we not entitled to proof?

Tigger - "Russia Today" - Thank-you
Tony - "Are we not entitled to proof?" - Indeed, I believe we should wait until the UN delivers the report from their Weapons Inspectors and then debate! I believe strongly we should act with the UN!

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Post by Guest on 29.08.13 15:05

Tweets from.......alex thomson

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Tweets falex thomson ‏@alextomo 1h
#syria #c4news UK govt finally publishes its 'evidence' for bombing - except there isn't any. series of statements that only govt could...




alex thomson ‏@alextomo 1h
#c4news ...done the attack...youtube images hard to fake...speaks of undiclosed intelligence but doesn'tr say what it is. NO HARD EVIDENCE



alex thomson ‏@alextomo 1h
#c4ews #syria also states there is no credible evidence that rebel groups have ever used CW. So the hard evidence people crave isn't here




alex thomson ‏@alextomo 1h
#c4news #syria so the government's legal basis for bombing comes down to words like 'highly likely' that Assad govt did it


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Post by Angelique on 29.08.13 15:19

I too have signed the Petition.

I have to agree that Sky and the BBC are just spouting the Governments propaganda.

I was taking my son to work this morning and accidentally eject my cd and it went on to Radio 4. News. I don't know the name of the interviewer but he was speaking to the Syrian Ambassador. He asked him why the Syrian Government was using chemical weapons. The Ambassador started to reply that there was no proof that the Syrian Government were using chemical weapons and it is totally without evidence to accuse them of doing so. While he was trying to reply the interviewer kept interrupting him and raising his voice over the Ambassador. It was extremely rude but the Ambassador didn't flinch. He tried again and again to make his point and he finally ended the interview after the interviewer said he was only trying to get the Truth. The Ambassador told him that they were a civilised country, in fact, far more civilised that the western countries. I think he said their civilisation was 6,000 years older than ours. Its worth listening to, if only for an example of how nasty and authoritarian the BBC is or has become.

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Post by joyce1938 on 29.08.13 16:37

No tony I do live in dorset,so that's not the problem ,I wonder if its because I opted out at one time from u.gov  as there was some contraverse about it ? so now I cant vote ? E few of us had voted ,cant recall what it was ,but there could have been a problem and so I  withdraw my name ? what evr it is or was I still would sign for this   joyce 1938

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