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Badger cull begins in Somerset in attempt to tackle TB

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Badger cull begins in Somerset in attempt to tackle TB

Post by Guest on 27.08.13 9:57

I find this upsetting and sickening.............
 
27 August 2013 Last updated at 09:08
 
Badger cull begins in Somerset in attempt to tackle TB
 
A controversial badger cull in Somerset is under way despite protests, the National Farmers' Union has confirmed.
About 5,000 badgers are expected to be killed in controlled shootings over six weeks in Somerset and Gloucestershire, in an attempt to control TB in cattle.
Supporters say the cull is necessary to tackle bovine TB, which can be spread from infected badgers, but opponents say it is inhumane and ineffective.
Anti-cull campaigners staged a vigil overnight protesting against the cull.
It is understood the cull in Gloucestershire will start later this week.
In a letter to members, National Farmers' Union President Peter Kendall said: "I am writing to let you know that the first pilot badger control operations have begun.
"This is an important step not just for cattle farmers but for the whole farming industry.
"I know that many of you reading this will have suffered the misery of dealing with TB on farm - some of you for decades - and I hope now you will feel that something is finally being done to stem the cycle of infection between cattle and badgers.
 

 
 
Jeremy Cooke reports on a night-time vigil amid the pilot cull
 
 
"I hope that when time shows that these culls have reduced TB in cattle - just as has happened in Ireland - that even more people will understand that while sad, these culls are absolutely necessary."
'Completely unscientific'
But an activist from Forthampton near Tewkesbury, who would only give her name as Lynne, said the cull was "utterly unacceptable" and described it as the "extermination of the badger on British soil".
England's badger cull
 
 
 

  • Badgers are being shot by marksmen in the South West as part of measures to protect cattle from bovine tuberculosis (TB)


  • Badgers are thought to pass on the disease to cattle through their urine, faeces or through droplet infection, in farmyards or in pastures


  • However, the extent of their role in the spread of bovine TB is not clear since the cows can also pass on the disease


  • Defra scientists estimate that culling badgers could reduce the number of new cases of TB in herds by 12% to 16% over nine years



 
 
 
"We're planning a call-out of the whole country and expect people from all walks of life to come down to do all that they can to save lives," she said.
"There will be a mix of both interfering with the cull and protest walks wearing fluorescent vests."
Lynne said she did not believe the cull represented the democratic point of view and that it was "completely unscientific".
"Whether domestic or wild, they have a right to live as much as we do," she said.
"When badgers flee the cull zone, infected badgers may go into free zones."
Following the NFU announcement, Environment Secretary Owen Paterson said: "We know that despite the strict controls we already have in place, we won't get on top of this terrible disease until we start dealing with the infection in badgers as well as in cattle. That's the clear lesson from Australia, New Zealand, the Republic of Ireland and the USA.
"That is why these pilot culls are so important. We have to use every tool in the box because TB is so difficult to eradicate and it is spreading rapidly.
"If we had a workable vaccine we would use it.
"A vaccine is at least 10 years off."
 

 
 
Owen Paterson MP: "It is pointless vaccinating existing diseased animals"
 
 
'Sensible policies'
Mr Paterson denied suggestions from anti-cull campaigners that the government was simply trying to appease the farming community.
"I've been looking at this since 2000 - and the bacterium spreads from animals to humans," he said.
"We're following successful and sensible policies in other countries.
"In the Republic of Ireland the disease was rocketing until they began to cull. Now there's a significant reduction in the disease.
"I want to end up with healthy cattle living alongside healthy wildlife."
Dominic Dyer, of Care for the Wild, which opposes the cull, said the badger population like any other would go through good and bad times.
"There's no scientific or economic justification for the cull and it may make the spread (of TB) worse not better.
"This is killing without protection - they're not even testing (the culled animals) for TB and they're only monitoring the cull of a small number.
"It's an absolute scandal."
 
Police officers were earlier sent to parts of Gloucestershire to "provide reassurance" after speculation the cull was imminent.
And Avon and Somerset Chief Constable Nick Gargan said his force had been preparing for the start of the cull for some time.
"There's been a good relationship between Avon and Somerset Constabulary and our neighbours Gloucestershire Police, as well as the Home Office and Defra," he said.
 
"It's their call not ours, but we understand we have a supporting role in ensuring that this democratically-elected government can push its programme forward... and similarly to ensure that people who want to protest within the law are able to do so."
The cull will involve the animals being shot in the open by marksmen using high-velocity rifles. The badgers will not be trapped in cages first.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23845851#
 
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Post by tigger on 27.08.13 10:11

Usual brilliant thinking, cull the badgers because of outbreaks of TBC. Never mind that cattle and humans have been overdosed with so many antibiotics that the TBC is now immune to most antibiotics.

Never mind that countless sick immigrants are happily coughing the TBC around the wards of NHS hospitals. They could kill all the badgers and TBC will still be coming back. Pharma industry will continue to pump out stuff that doesn't work anymore.
(I'm not making this up, a medic -friend of mine - who is a highly regarded specialist forecast in the seventies that Jacob Creutzfelt would become a problem, based on her knowledge of that disease in New Guinea, which was one of the few places in the world where this occurred due to eating the brains of captured enemies).  In the eighties she complained that patients were infecting others in the wards with TBC as the disease was thought to have be eradicated, there was no ward for contagious TBC patients. Thirty years ago, the bacillae should be doing nicely by now.

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Post by Guest on 27.08.13 20:56

candyfloss wrote:I find this upsetting and sickening.............
Me too. Some of these badgers won't be killed, they'll be horribly injured and some will leave babies alone. Sad 

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Post by whmon on 27.08.13 21:19

@tigger wrote:Usual brilliant thinking, cull the badgers because of outbreaks of TBC. Never mind that cattle and humans have been overdosed with so many antibiotics that the TBC is now immune to most antibiotics.

Never mind that countless sick immigrants are happily coughing the TBC around the wards of NHS hospitals. They could kill all the badgers and TBC will still be coming back. Pharma industry will continue to pump out stuff that doesn't work anymore.
(I'm not making this up, a medic -friend of mine - who is a highly regarded specialist forecast in the seventies that Jacob Creutzfelt would become a problem, based on her knowledge of that disease in New Guinea, which was one of the few places in the world where this occurred due to eating the brains of captured enemies).  In the eighties she complained that patients were infecting others in the wards with TBC as the disease was thought to have be eradicated, there was no ward for contagious TBC patients. Thirty years ago, the bacillae should be doing nicely by now.
It was the brains of relatives that they used to eat. The brains were cooked with bananas and made into a soup, It was only women and children who ate the brains of the dead relatives, not men. It was so that the dead relative would be able to live on within the bodies of the living. Fascinating stuff! I agree absolutely that the badgers should not be culled ].

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Post by tigger on 28.08.13 6:10

@whmon wrote:
@tigger wrote:Usual brilliant thinking, cull the badgers because of outbreaks of TBC. Never mind that cattle and humans have been overdosed with so many antibiotics that the TBC is now immune to most antibiotics.

Never mind that countless sick immigrants are happily coughing the TBC around the wards of NHS hospitals. They could kill all the badgers and TBC will still be coming back. Pharma industry will continue to pump out stuff that doesn't work anymore.
(I'm not making this up, a medic -friend of mine - who is a highly regarded specialist forecast in the seventies that Jacob Creutzfelt would become a problem, based on her knowledge of that disease in New Guinea, which was one of the few places in the world where this occurred due to eating the brains of captured enemies).  In the eighties she complained that patients were infecting others in the wards with TBC as the disease was thought to have be eradicated, there was no ward for contagious TBC patients. Thirty years ago, the bacillae should be doing nicely by now.
It was the brains of relatives that they used to eat. The brains were cooked with bananas and made into a soup, It was only women and children who ate the brains of the dead relatives, not men. It was so that the dead relative would be able to live on within the bodies of the living. Fascinating stuff! I agree absolutely that the badgers should not be culled ].
Thanks. I stand corrected.
The shortsighted view on TBC is Defra and Foot and Mouth all over again. Defra rules caused contamination. Friends of mine tried to stop the 'inspectors' going to healthy farms.
Before that we had the Mad Cow Disease.

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Post by PeterMac on 28.08.13 7:20

The McCanns tackled TB without killing a single badger ! big grin 

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Post by Guest on 28.08.13 7:46

@PeterMac wrote:The McCanns tackled TB without killing a single badger !   big grin 
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