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Post by Tony Bennett on 23.08.13 19:04


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Post by aiyoyo on 23.08.13 19:13

Another one who turned a blind eye to what happened under his nose ?

What is wrong with these people ?

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Post by aiyoyo on 23.08.13 19:16

He has the bleeding cheek to say he resigned out of "courtesy" !

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Rotherham - AGAIN

Post by PeterMac on 26.08.14 14:34

http://news.sky.com/story/1324952/horrific-cases-of-child-abuse-in-rotherham

By Becky Johnson, North of England Correspondent
More than 1,400 children were sexually exploited in Rotherham between 1997 and 2013, a report has concluded.

The abuse of children, some just 11 years old, has been described as "horrific".
The report also found it is "not confined to the past but continues to this day".
In the summary of her findings, independent reviewer Alexis Jay OBE writes: "It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that the victims suffered.
"They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten, and intimidated.
"There were examples of children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made witness to brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone.
"Girls as young as 11 were raped by large numbers of male perpetrators."
The report highlights a variety of historical and serious child protection failings and concludes the council and other agencies should have done more to protect those at risk.
In just over a third of cases victims were previously known to services in the town because of child protection and neglect.
The report says there was a series of failings including poor leadership from senior managers in child protection services and a perceived "lack of interest" in, and understanding of, grooming as a model of child abuse.
Victims were not heard or believed and there was a perception that a “macho and bullying” culture within the council prevented child sexual exploitation from being properly discussed. Professional jealousies between organisations also prevented effective action.

There was “denial” that such events could happen in Rotherham and issues of ethnicity were “played down” by senior managers. "Almost all" the perpetrators were described by victims as being of Pakinstani origin, but the authorities "wanted to play down ethnic dimensions... for fear of being thought racist."

Ms Jay found that a series of reports made available to both the council and police flagging up serious concerns do not appear to have been used effectively to influence the response of either organisation, and there had been a series of missed opportunities to understand the scale of the problem since 2002.
Responding to the report, Martin Kimber, Chief Executive of Rotherham Council, said: "(It) does not make comfortable reading in its account of the horrific experiences of some young people in the past, and I would like to reiterate our sincere apology to those who were let down when they needed help.
"I commissioned the independent review to understand fully what went wrong, why it went wrong and to ensure that the lessons learnt in Rotherham mean these mistakes can never happen again.
"The report confirms our services have improved significantly over the last five years and are stronger today than ever before. This is important because it allows me to reassure young people and families that should anyone raise concerns we will take them seriously and provide them with the support they need.
"However, that must not overshadow - and certainly does not excuse - the finding that for a significant amount of time the council and its partners could and should have done more to protect young people from what must be one of the most horrific forms of abuse imaginable."

The fear of being accused of racism has led to some of the most spectacular derelictions of duty.
Is it really better to be thought of as useless and corrupt than as racist ?

Perhaps now someone somewhere will begin to speak out.
EVERYONE KNOWS what is going on.
Everyone know which 'ethnic groups' specialise in which type of crime.  This is not prejudice = pre judgment. It is a conclusion based on all the available evidence.

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Post by jozi on 26.08.14 14:50

@aiyoyo wrote:
He has the bleeding cheek to say he resigned out of "courtesy" !
Mr Akhtar said: "I am standing down temporarily as deputy leader of the Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council and as vice-chairman of the Police and Crime Panel as a matter of courtesy to those agencies to resolve any inquiry as quickly as possible."

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Post by PeterMac on 26.08.14 15:00

If you are accused of being racist, your career is over.
If you are accused of being useless, incompetent, negligent and corrupt






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Leader of Council - GONE

Post by PeterMac on 26.08.14 15:01

The Leader has stepped down with immediate effect.

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 26.08.14 19:24

I'd act all shocked at the 1400 victims and the unforgivable (lack of) action(s) of the authorities, but sadly it doesn't shock me anymore sad

Was this report also due to be released around now? I honestly don't remember anything about this case. Just wondering if this being released *now* is designed to take our eyes off the squirrel(™®PeterMac) ie: the MP investigations?

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Post by sallypelt on 26.08.14 19:31

@TheTruthWillOut wrote:I'd act all shocked at the 1400 victims and the unforgivable (lack of) action(s) of the authorities, but sadly it doesn't shock me anymore sad

Was this report also due to be released around now? I honestly don't remember anything about this case. Just wondering if this being released *now* is designed to take our eyes off the squirrel(™®PeterMac) ie: the MP investigations?

I have resisted up until now about asking what the squirrel is referring to airkiss So, can someone please enlighten me in the simplest of terms, please? thumbsup

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 26.08.14 19:39

@sallypelt wrote:
@TheTruthWillOut wrote:I'd act all shocked at the 1400 victims and the unforgivable (lack of) action(s) of the authorities, but sadly it doesn't shock me anymore sad

Was this report also due to be released around now? I honestly don't remember anything about this case. Just wondering if this being released *now* is designed to take our eyes off the squirrel(™®PeterMac) ie: the MP investigations?

I have resisted up until now about asking what the squirrel is referring to airkiss So, can someone please enlighten me in the simplest of terms, please? thumbsup

I assume it is a variation on the "look over here, not over there" phrase. I'm probably very wrong.

For those interested (and can stomach it) here is the full Rotherham abuse report: http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1280062/independent-inquiry-cse-in-rotherham.txt

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Post by sallypelt on 26.08.14 19:47

@TheTruthWillOut wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
@TheTruthWillOut wrote:I'd act all shocked at the 1400 victims and the unforgivable (lack of) action(s) of the authorities, but sadly it doesn't shock me anymore sad

Was this report also due to be released around now? I honestly don't remember anything about this case. Just wondering if this being released *now* is designed to take our eyes off the squirrel(™®PeterMac) ie: the MP investigations?

I have resisted up until now about asking what the squirrel is referring to airkiss So, can someone please enlighten me in the simplest of terms, please? thumbsup

I assume it is a variation on the "look over here, not over there" phrase. I'm probably very wrong.

For those interested (and can stomach it) here is the full Rotherham abuse report: http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1280062/independent-inquiry-cse-in-rotherham.txt
TY, TheTruth. I have never heard the saying, and I was beginning to think that I had missed something obvious

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Post by Searcgforthetruth on 26.08.14 23:18

This is the same South Yorkshire Police that is investigating Cliff Richard. The key lesson from this report is that they must listen and investigate thoroughly all child abuse reports. Oh dear Cliff, given the pressure on South Yorkshire Police you may not be able to sweep this one under the carpet.

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 27.08.14 0:06

Shocking statistics: for girls aged 10-19 in Rotherham there was at least a 1 in 10 chance you would be a victim.

And to highlight the incompetence/corruption of the authorities of Rotherham/South Yorkshire:

In Lancashire in 2012 there were 100 prosecutions for child sexual abuse. In South Yorkshire there were none.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 27.08.14 0:49

Back in 2005 I was working as a qualified Child Protection Social Worker in the London Borough of Hackney.

A child was reported with several terrible injuries to his back.

These had been inflicted by the local Muslim imam in one of Hackney's madrassas (outside-school classes where, basically, Muslim children are drilled into memorising as much of the Koran as possible). The poor child could not remember all his verses and was routinely whipped by the imam for his failures. 

Despite the clearest possible evidence of the imam's guilt, the Met Police and Hackney Social Services colluded with these crimes by placing the child on the Child Protection Register, offering the imam 'advice', and agreeing not to prosecute him.

I weep for the agonies many of those 1,400-plus children must have suffered and are still suffering - and burn with anger that not one of the police officers or social workers and their seniors who allowed this industrial-scale child sexual abuse to go on for 17 years has even received a mild disciplinary rebuke, so far as we are aware

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Post by palm tree on 27.08.14 3:52

So sad but so sick. Why do people get away with this? Poor kids.

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Post by Sam S on 27.08.14 7:28

Muslim gangs grooming young, vulnerable, White girls is not just a Yorkshire problem. Many areas in the UK have problems with Muslims abusing children. This has been swept under the carpet for at least ten years that i can think of. The mothers who reported these attacks were ignored, intimidated and called racist to try and silence them in the interest of "community cohesion". These MP's, council leaders and police officers who allowed these children to be abused should face lengthy jail sentences, but of course they won't. The ones in front of the camera condeming the Muslim gangs today are the same ones who allowed it to go on unpunished for years. mad

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Post by PeterMac on 27.08.14 9:20

To be accused of racism is one of the most serious and career threatening things that can happen to you.
Far better (on a personal career level) to keep your head down and to pretend that each case is an individual one, where the race or colour or creed of the suspect is of no consequence.

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Post by aquila on 27.08.14 9:34

@PeterMac wrote:To be accused of racism is one of the most serious and career threatening things that can happen to you.
Far better (on a personal career level) to keep your head down and to pretend that each case is an individual one, where the race or colour or creed of the suspect is of no consequence.
How true PeterMac.

What's especially alarming is that virtually every case any of the authorities handle has reams of forms with tick boxes covering race, sex, ethnic origin etc. So what's done about analysing this data?  What's the point of this data if it identifies a trend that is ignored on a large scale?

ETA: I've just watched an interview on Sky News. Chloe Setter of the charity ECPAT (I had to look her up as I've never heard of this charity) gave the most pitifully inadequate response to questions. She was interested in looking at things from the ground level and interested that it's females being abused by males.

Here's the charity website.

http://www.ecpat.org.uk/frontpage

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Post by Research_Reader on 27.08.14 10:48

@PeterMac wrote:To be accused of racism is one of the most serious and career threatening things that can happen to you.
Far better (on a personal career level) to keep your head down and to pretend that each case is an individual one, where the race or colour or creed of the suspect is of no consequence.

A predictable consequence of the police (and organisations in general) becoming overly attentive to identity politics. It seems that the emphasis has been taken off actions being legal or illegal and more attention is paid to PR concerns about putting out the right message, or bending over backward to understand the cultural context. 

Interestingly the BBC in particular seem fond of reporting 'Asian' rather than 'Pakistani'. Given that what they mean by Asian is non-specific enough to cover half or more of the world's population it seems like a euphemism to me, and one that hides the truth. 

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Post by jeanmonroe on 27.08.14 11:00

Anyone care to tell me what that great , self appointed, guardian of 'expolited' children, Big Jim G, was doing while all this child exploitation WAS going on?

These children were being 'exploited' on a vast scale, daily, but i can't remember BJG's CEOP telling the world about it.

If he says "oh i was only at CEOP "online' er, protection ONLY"

The question then arises WTF was he doing getting involved, even to producing a video, 'for' Madeleine, but NO other 'missing' child, in a 'missing' person case?

WHY did Gamble 'involve' himself in JUST the case of Madeleine, and NOT in the hundreds, thousands, of other 'missing' children in the UK?

She wasn't subject to ONLINE 'exploitation' was she?

What EXACTLY were CEOP 'doing' in PDL, within hours, of hearing about a 'missing', NOT an 'exploited', child?

As GM himself said "things just don't stack up"

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Post by mouse on 27.08.14 11:34

Just had to log in and post today - (had to go somewhere to vent with like-minded folk) as I don't think I've felt so angry about this mass cover-up, for that is what it is, since the Baby Peter Cover up. The saddest thing of all is that is is not a shock to those of us who have realised for a long time now - that this is a huge country-wide (and further afield) scandal involving many who hold high office positions. And having just listened to various other council leaders all declaring their horror and sadness about this news - not one, when asked, would say outright that this police commissioner, and others involved who knew - should go/be sacked (my preference). One Minister for children I believe Nick Gibb, when asked if he should go - said it was up to the commissioner to decide. Another councilor in charge of children in Oxford said, when asked same question - what good would it do sacking a few members of staff? He was of the opinion that it couldn't change what happened in the past?????? Err, why not ask some of the abused girls what they would like to happen to these guys careers? But of course not, these guys give all the apologies, but again forget the victims in all of this - the abused at the core of the whole problem. I think sacking those who turned a blind eye for what ever reason - would be the start of a little bit of justice for these girls.....Just the start - they are owed so much more. In fact as I am writing this a victim of this abuse has just called for the sacking of those in charge - will they at last do what they should have done in the first place and listen to victims, or again, will it just fall on the same deaf ears of those who expressing their faux sympathy this morning??????? I don't know how these guys sleep at night!

Sorry if I sound I'm off on one but I'm sick and tired of hearing a trail of voices over the media this morning echoing the same thing.....All pussyfooting around this issue of the sacking of these named people in charge.....Why are they doing this????? Or should I say what or who are they frightened of???????

Oh, as an aside - if you can listen to Eamon Holmes (not a big fan of him until this morning) do an interview with the CEO of Bernardos - he asked the guy if the commissioner should lose his job and this CEO wouldn't answer!!!!!!! Eamon layed into him big time and I would hazard a guess Bernardos Head Office are in massive damage limitation right now.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 27.08.14 11:40

BREAKING:

Home office, Theresa May's department has just said......................................THESE EXPLOITED 1400 CHILDREN .............NOTHING TO DO WITH US!

It's ALL the councils 'fault'

Exploited UK children NOTHING to do with Home Office?

She, TM, is 'FUNDING' CEOP!.........Child EXPLOITATION online protection!

The SAME TM who IS 'authorising' UK taxpayers money, £9 1/2 MILLION, to date, and increasing at a rate of £6,778 a DAY, to investigate ONE 'missing' child.

Who, a TOP Police officer said, that 'there's no evidence to eliminate one or other, or both, of the 'missing' child's parents from possible involvement in their child's 'disappearance'

T May is being EXPLOITED by the parents of a child, they, and ONLY they, have said 'was abducted'!

And the auntie of the 'missing' child has said, on record, that "they, (the McCanns) think she's (madeleine) WITH"

WAKE UP MAY and smell the 'scam'!

imo, obviously.

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Post by Nina on 27.08.14 11:46

@mouse wrote:Just had to log in and post today - (had to go somewhere to vent with like-minded folk) as I don't think I've felt so angry about this mass cover-up, for that is what it is, since the Baby Peter Cover up. The saddest thing of all is that is is not a shock to those of us who have realised for a long time now - that this is a huge country-wide (and further afield) scandal involving many who hold high office positions. And having just listened to various other council leaders all declaring their horror and sadness about this news - not one, when asked, would say outright that this police commissioner, and others involved who knew - should go/be sacked (my preference). One Minister for children I believe Nick Gibb, when asked if he should go - said it was up to the commissioner to decide. Another councilor in charge of children in Oxford said, when asked same question - what good would it do sacking a few members of staff? He was of the opinion that it couldn't change what happened in the past?????? Err, why not ask some of the abused girls what they would like to happen to these guys careers? But of course not, these guys give all the apologies, but again forget the victims in all of this - the abused at the core of the whole problem. I think sacking those who turned a blind eye for what ever reason - would be the start of a little bit of justice for these girls.....Just the start - they are owed so much more. In fact as I am writing this a victim of this abuse has just called for the sacking of those in charge - will they at last do what they should have done in the first place and listen to victims, or again, will it just fall on the same deaf ears of those who expressing their faux sympathy this morning??????? I don't know how these guys sleep at night!

Sorry if I sound I'm off on one but I'm sick and tired of hearing a trail of voices over the media this morning echoing the same thing.....All pussyfooting around this issue of the sacking of these named people in charge.....Why are they doing this????? Or should I say what or who are they frightened of???????

Oh, as an aside - if you can listen to Eamon Holmes (not a big fan of him until this morning) do an interview with the CEO of Bernardos - he asked the guy if the commissioner should lose his job and this CEO wouldn't answer!!!!!!! Eamon layed into him big time and I would hazard a guess Bernardos Head Office are in massive damage limitation right now.

Well said Mouse. I too am just left shaking my head as to the still ongoing shuffling of feet. Those who have been named should be investigated, and if found culpable then dismissed if still in the profession or if retired loose their large healthy pensions.

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.08.14 11:48

@PeterMac wrote:If you are accused of being racist, your career is over.
If you are accused of being useless, incompetent, negligent and corrupt






you thank the promotion board, and take up your new post !   Mr

Sadly, that's the bloody truth !

Being accused of racism is fatal, no if no but no leeway for no argument.

Being accused of incompetent, useless, etc needs to be proven and it's very technical in law.

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Post by tigger on 27.08.14 11:56

@aiyoyo wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:If you are accused of being racist, your career is over.
If you are accused of being useless, incompetent, negligent and corrupt






you thank the promotion board, and take up your new post !   Mr

Sadly, that's the bloody truth !

Being accused of racism is fatal, no if no but no leeway for no argument.

Being accused of incompetent, useless, etc needs to be proven and it's very technical in law.

In this case I'd be quite happy for sharia law to be implemented, I'm assuming, not being familiar with this law that this involves capital punishment.

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