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Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

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Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by sallypelt on 30.07.13 13:35

Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/theresa-may-asks-permission-for-met-to-start-madeleine-mccann-inquiry-in-portugal-8738030.html

Nothing that we don't already know.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by jeanmonroe on 30.07.13 14:46

"Mrs May remained determined to offer every assistance to Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry as they seek to find their daughter."

Has nobody TOLD Mrs May that KATE MCCANN did NOT even 'seek to find her daughter' the night she 'disappeared'!

“The Home Office remains committed to supporting the search for Madeleine McCann, and we have always said we would provide the Metropolitan police with the resources they need to investigate her disappearance.”

BUT the Home Office will NOT be providing any resources needed to investigate any OTHER child's 'disappearance'.

So Kerry, i suppose you'd better change Ben's name to Madeleine!

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by guest. on 30.07.13 14:51

It doesn't say the McCanns and their friends they aren't suspects, what it says is they aren't part of the 38 who are part of the further enquiries. Completely different, they maybe have all they need off them.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Lostfridge on 30.07.13 14:52

Lets hope Portugal tell her they can when she provides the Medical records and card statements of the McCann's and the Tapas for April-May 2007!!!

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by jeanmonroe on 30.07.13 14:57

"Last month the Met said that the review, which cost £5 million,"

SO that is £5 MILLION for one child that ONLY, i repeat, ONLY, the parents have SAID was 'abducted'!

£5 MILLION for ONE 'missing' child

ZERO for every other 'missing' child!

ETA:
"A Portuguese probe was shelved in 2008"

It didn't have to be but the McCanns did NOT ask for it to stay OPEN!

And the McCanns have NEVER asked, personally, for the probe to be re-opened!

As K McCann SAID " whether the case is re-opened, or NOT, it DOSEN'T MATTER!"

REPORT THAT EVENING STANDARD, IF YOU DARE!

It's not slanderous or libellous, it is what she SAID, in public!

So PRINT that if you are so 'impartial' and only want the TRUTH out there!

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Post by marconi on 30.07.13 15:13

everything is very official.  a war or nerves for the mccanns and others.  why so negative comments here?  we must be happy with what is going on.  it was not necessary to publish about the request.   

it has a goal itself.   Who knows some people of interest wiill come forward now.

they will experience it as threats from overseas.   very  good.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by jeanmonroe on 30.07.13 15:26

@marconi wrote:everything is very official.  a war or nerves for the mccanns and others.  why so negative comments here?  we must be happy with what is going on.  it was not necessary to publish about the request.   

it has a goal itself.   Who knows some people of interest wiill come forward now.

they will experience it as threats from overseas.   very  good.

Negative comments?

We are only pointing out a few REAL 'facts' that related to this case.

Do the general public even KNOW that it was the McCanns themselves that did not contest the shelving of the case?
They had 20, some say 40, days in which to demand that the case into their daughter's 'disappearane' was not shelved.
THEY did NOT!
Is it 'negative' to point out to the general public that over £5 million has been expended, so far, on ONE case, when there are loved one's of other missing people that get no help at all?

High lighting 'FACTS' is not negative!

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congratulations

Post by marconi on 30.07.13 15:43

no fluffy words

no rhetoric


ACTION!


congratulations, Kate and Gerry!

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by lj on 30.07.13 16:16

@jeanmonroe wrote:
@marconi wrote:everything is very official.  a war or nerves for the mccanns and others.  why so negative comments here?  we must be happy with what is going on.  it was not necessary to publish about the request.   

it has a goal itself.   Who knows some people of interest wiill come forward now.

they will experience it as threats from overseas.   very  good.

Negative comments?

We are only pointing out a few REAL 'facts' that related to this case.

Do the general public even KNOW that it was the McCanns themselves that did not contest the shelving of the case?
They had 20, some say 40, days in which to demand that the case into their daughter's 'disappearane' was not shelved.
THEY did NOT!
Is it 'negative' to point out to the general public that over £5 million has been expended, so far, on ONE case, when there are loved one's of other missing people that get no help at all?

High lighting 'FACTS' is not negative!

This can't be repeated to often: not apenny for other children. Seems that if you want to get help from the government you better be very negligent.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by lj on 30.07.13 16:17

@marconi wrote:no fluffy words

no rhetoric


ACTION!


congratulations, Kate and Gerry!

No fluffy words???

"Mrs May remained determined to offer every assistance to Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry as they seek to find their daughter."

Indeed congratulations Kate and Gerry, the white wash of this conning couple of pathetic parents is almost complete.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Lostfridge on 30.07.13 16:24

No money for any other missing UK children. Just what is so special about this case?.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by jeanmonroe on 30.07.13 16:31

@Lostfridge wrote:No money for any other missing UK children. Just what is so special about this case?.  

ASK MRS MAY!

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by jeanmonroe on 30.07.13 16:55

"The Met is expected to seek new forensic evidence in the country, and pursue hundreds of possible leads the review is understood to have uncovered."

HUNDREDS of possible LEADS?

But then THIS:
Kate is said by relatives to spend hours with the files at home in Rothley, Leicestershire, while her twins are at nursery. Gerry, devotes evenings to the case, after days as a consultant at Glenfield Hospital.

"Sadly, the files have not revealed any substantial new leads," says Mitchell.

SADLY, THE FILES (THAT KATE HAS SPENT HOURS AND HOURS LOOKING THROUGH) HAVE NOT REVEALED ANY SUBSTANTIAL NEW LEADS!

WAS KM even 'reading' through the same files that the MET now say has possibly HUNDREDS of leads?

WHY DIDN'T KM 'FIND'  ANY OF THESE LEADS???

JUST FINDING ONE WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD START, KATE!

The MET have 'found' HUNDREDS!

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the answer

Post by marconi on 30.07.13 17:39

The answer to the mystery was already known before the review started. That's why Cameron and Mrs. May were  so generous paying everything. And why Portugal accepted it. It is the last thing that the McCanns had expected.
They turned their own gun to themselves: bravo 
 
 
The Met just started their investigation, following prescribed rules and counting on the PJ's colaboration.
 
It would be much easier to arresting the McCanns right now but the Met have to prove that the child died in the apartment and that the PJ was right.
 
Perhaps they can even prove that it was not an accident.
 
And to prove why the body had to be hidden.  A tragic accident would have been accepted by any authority in the world and also by the public. There must be more behind Maddie's death.  thinking

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by margaret on 30.07.13 18:23

Why all the negativity? Until th investigation is finished l will stay trusting. Don't forget the CPS are involved and they don't prosecute dead people, so who are the live people they're going after? We haven't been told of course for good reason IMO.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by aiyoyo on 30.07.13 18:43

Home Secretary Theresa May has sent an official request to Lisbon for permission for Scotland Yard to begin a new investigation in Portugal into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

It follows the disclosure that the Met has identified 38 potential suspects — including 12 Britons — who are “of interest” because of their presence in Portugal when Madeleine vanished.

In the letter, drawn up for Mrs May by the Crown Prosecution Service, she asks the Portuguese authorities for their help in gathering new evidence. But, in a more significant step, she also requests permission for Met detectives to be stationed in the country.

That will effectively allow Scotland Yard to take control of the previously stalled investigation, and raise hopes of a possible breakthrough.

A response from Portugal is expected within two weeks. Last month, after a two-year review of evidence, the Met announced it was launching a full-scale investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance. She was nearly four when she went missing from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve in 2007, as her parents dined with friends nearby.

A Portuguese probe was shelved in 2008 but the Yard began a review in 2011, following the intervention of David Cameron at the request of the McCann family.

Last month the Met said that the review, which cost £5 million, had identified 38 “persons of interest” from four European countries, including Portugal. They will be the subject of the new probe. Twelve are Britons who were in Portugal at the time.

Scotland Yard has said neither the McCann family nor the friends who were staying with them were among those they have identified for further inquiries.

If Portuguese approval is given, the Met is expected to seek new forensic evidence in the country, and pursue hundreds of possible leads the review is understood to have uncovered. However, sources caution that there remains no prime suspect and the Met’s inquiries are still at an early stage.

The new Yard inquiry began partly because Portuguese authorities are unable, under their law, to reopen their probe unless compelling new evidence emerges. Met detectives will hope to uncover this, and believe it could eventually lead to the case being solved. The new investigation also raises the possibility of a trial in the UK, if a British national is identified and arrested.

The Home Office declined to comment on the letter, but confirmed that Mrs May remained determined to offer every assistance to Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry as they seek to find their daughter.

A spokesman added: “The Home Office remains committed to supporting the search for Madeleine McCann, and we have always said we would provide the Metropolitan police with the resources they need to investigate her disappearance.”

Points observed and/or my comments. There are a few gold nuggets in this article despite the neutral tone. One has to read between the lines very carefully.

The * abduction* word is not mentioned at all. Neither is *abductor* nor *childless couple* nor *Paedophile*.
Letter was prepared by CPS for Theresa May - so not just standard request letter for collaboration, but a significant one with specific requests laid out by CPS.
Seek permission for MET officers to be stationed in Portugal - odd request if they're after an abductor.
Seek permission for MET to take control of the investigation - effectively asking Portuguese to cede control to MET. Unprecedented step even if legally feasible therefore the reason/aim of both sides must thus be of general collective consensus before the Portuguese will agree.
Possibility of a trial in UK if a Brit is identified and arrested ...now then ...now then....at last they're talking seriously.

The writing is already on the wall. It's a question of time before they bring this case home and put the *Brit* in the dock.



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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by margaret on 30.07.13 19:49

Excellent points aiyoyo, thumbsup 

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ghosts

Post by marconi on 31.07.13 0:50

@margaret wrote:Excellent points aiyoyo, thumbsup 

 Imagine if the Yard starts investigating English ghosts.

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Post by marconi on 31.07.13 1:12

In my opinion, as soon it officially becomes an investigation in Algarve, arrests will be made, short after.
 
Because I believe that everything is ready, they have already their suspects, and it proabably will reflect on the UK, where arrests also will be made.
 
i hope that Kate and Gerry will be tried in London,and that we will be able to follow it on Sky News, live, on internet, because of the international and national profile of the case.
 
Portugal is full of  laws ,demanding secrecy, maybe even one that could forbide such a broadcast.
 
Besides, all of the people directly involved in the story are English speaking people. Very easy for the rest of the world.
 
And the UK wil pay the expenses of the trial.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by saltnpepper on 31.07.13 2:00

Is Clarence on the MET radar? have happy care free thoughts of justice until i think of him holding up 'posh spice' on TV

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Had to repeat this!

Post by Seek truth on 31.07.13 6:53

@lj wrote:
@marconi wrote:no fluffy words

no rhetoric


ACTION!


congratulations, Kate and Gerry!

No fluffy words???

"Mrs May remained determined to offer every assistance to Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry as they seek to find their daughter."

Indeed congratulations Kate and Gerry, the white wash of this conning couple of pathetic parents is almost complete.

 Agreed. Had to repeat this.

They might not get locked up BUT this pathetic conning couple are NOT sleeping well at night, feeling so guilty!

Sleep well!

I have to laugh at those who are quick to believe them, those who never bothered to read everything about the  case. Though, they may have read Kate's book, the one that gives no correct answers.

duh 

sarcastic  

I'm off.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Guest on 31.07.13 9:24

tweet from Mark Williams-Thomas..........



Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas 2h
Relationship btwn UK police & Portuguese over Mets saying they will investigate Madeleine's disappearance is very tense & far from agreed


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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by plebgate on 31.07.13 9:27

candyfloss wrote:tweet from Mark Williams-Thomas..........



Mark Williams-Thomas ‏@mwilliamsthomas  2h  
Relationship btwn UK police & Portuguese over Mets saying they will investigate Madeleine's disappearance is very tense & far from agreed



Does he think this is news? Still it makes him look as though he is in the know.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by Lance De Boils on 31.07.13 12:40

Can't say I've got much time for MWT. Always seems full of flannel.

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Re: Theresa May asks permission for Met to start Madeleine McCann inquiry in Portugal

Post by lj on 31.07.13 18:47

Yep, the next step in the white wash: make sure that everyone thinks that the blame lays with the Portuguese: they did not agree to have the Brits solve the mystery and arrest the abductor.

Many flies in one hit:
they have an excuse for not catching the abductor
they make the Portuguese look bad
they can drag this out indefinitely
their national symbols of British parenting are found to be pure as snow
and many British VIPS are to be declared heroes for standing by these poor parents.

Get ready

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