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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by Guest on 29.06.13 11:54

PeterMac wrote on another thread.........


@PeterMac wrote:Proably worthy of its own thread, but this was from Joana Morais
New detectives hired by the McCanns are criticized

A former Scotland Yard detective hired to search for Madeleine McCann is conducting a private murder investigation to discredit police evidence against her parents.
But last night fears were raised that Noel Hogan might not be up to the job.
Mr Hogan, who runs a private detective agency, has re-interviewed British witnesses including the McCanns holiday friends.

He is also understood to have gone through the McCanns’ own statements in minute detail with the couple.
In a startling twist, Kate and Gerry’s lawyers have ordered that their own inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance, while on holiday in Portugal last May, should focus on the theory that the three-year-old was killed and her body hidden.
Hogan International, which specialises in asset investigations, is taking over the case after the McCanns benefactors voiced dismay at the lack of tangible progress made by the Spanish agency Metodo 3.
Sources close to the inquiry say the two firms have a history of rivalry after previously clashing over conflicting investigations.

In an exclusive interview with the Sunday Express, Mr Hogan revealed that his previous experience of missing people cases was limited to tracing beneficiaries of wills. He also admitted that despite the high profile of the Madeleine investigation, his 12-strong team of former detectives and ex-SAS men were already handling around 5,000 cases.

Speaking from his office in a rundown tower block in Aldershot, Hants, Mr Hogan refused to say how much he was being paid. He said: ‘I don’t want to become part of the circus surrounding Madeleine. I am not allowed to go into operational detail and I just do what I am told.

‘We deal with all matters of investigation, but it is true that normally the missing people we deal with are those who have inherited something and then disappeared. We have never dealt with a missing child.

‘I am not going to boast about success rates like Metodo 3, because that did nobody a favour. We have one office and there are 12 people who work here. If I need to I can bring other people in.

‘When the police have a big case they do not stop investigating all the others they are working on.

‘I have a lot of people who I know who are ex-policemen and know how to handle a criminal investigation.

‘The Portuguese police have put a complete closedown on any facts. Normally in this country you would have a liaison officer with the family.’

Another former Scotland Yard officer, who has given unofficial advice to the McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, last night voiced his concern at the appointment. He said: I cannot understand why they have chosen to go with Mr Hogan because he simply does not have the resources or the back-up to conduct a major investigation.

The advice I have given to the McCanns was to urge them to request a meeting with Scotland Yard and to ask them to take over the British side of the investigation. The Yard has a very sophisticated and well-resourced kidnap squad, which deals with more than 300 abductions a year, far more than any other force in Britain. Forces from around the world turn to them for advice.

My view is that the McCanns should not waste money with private investigators but should get the best police in Britain on the job.

I think the role of Leicestershire Police is confused. At first they sent officers to Portugal to offer liaison assistance to the McCanns but now it appears they are investigating them on behalf of the Portuguese. It has become a mess.

Last night Mr Hogan retorted: I was in Surrey Police for four years and the Met after that. I finished top of my CID course but decided to leave to start my own business.

I am not a disgraced former policeman. I deal in professional investigations and I have been doing this a long time.
Control Risks Group, which is advising the investigation on behalf of the McCanns billionaire backer Brian Kennedy, are also reported have taken on a larger role.
But no significant new lines of inquiry are being examined and, despite an overwhelming response to their Christmas appeal, the McCanns have been advised to focus on their own defence.
A source close to the family said: The investigation is working towards a resolution and we have to consider that Madeleine may have been murdered.
We have been working to the theory she may have been killed and all the possible scenarios are being considered.
Of course we hope very much that she is alive but nothing can be ruled out.

Eight months after Madeleine vanished, Portuguese detectives have made it clear they think Kate and Gerry staged an abduction in an attempt to provide a smokescreen for a more sinister crime.

Original link was http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/31295/Madeleine-Fears-detective-not-up-to-job
but it has been whooshed !lots more at
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/01/madeleine-mccann-court-will-decide.html

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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by Guest on 29.06.13 11:56

@tigger wrote:Here's an interesting article on an early connection to the Met. A PI whose name we never hear mentioned, but must surely have been of some use?

From McCannfiles.com

Apart from other detectives, Noel Hogan seems to be of interest, if only because we hardly ever hear about him. Links to the Met in January 08, working for Metodo.
Most of all, at this early date trying to get in touch with the Smiths amongst others.

The McCanns bring in cold-case detectives to investigate Madeleine's disappearance Daily Mail
By DAN NEWLING and VANESSA ALLEN
Last updated at 00:48 03 January 2008

Kate and Gerry McCann have hired a former Met Police officer to carry out a "cold case" review into Madeleine's disappearance.

Noel Hogan, a former CID detective, has spent hundreds of hours interviewing British witnesses in the case.
[..]
Mr Hogan spent eight years in the Met where he reached the rank of detective superintendent.
Since 1986 he has run his own detective agency in Surrey, Hogan International, which claims to have extensive experience dealing with missing-person cases.
[..]
When contacted by the Daily Mail, Mr Hogan confirmed that he had spoken to many of the holidaymakers now back in Britain.
He said: "I have been reinterviewing a number of the witnesses that were out in Portugal at the time."
He added that his investigation would tie in with the enquiry being conducted by the Spanish detective agency Metodo 3 in Barcelona.
Since four-year- old Madeleine's disappearance, well-wishers have contributed over £1million to the fund to help find her.
The McCanns have spent much of this money on Metodo 3, which is being paid £50,000 a month to lead the search for their daughter.
[..]
But yesterday a source close to the family said that Kate and Gerry were keeping faith with Metodo 3 in spite of their concerns.
But the source confirmed that they have also authorised the employment of Mr Hogan to coordinate the UK end of the investigation.
Metodo 3 are currently trying to re-interview an Irish family who said they saw a man carrying away a child on the night Madeleine disappeared.
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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by PeterMac on 29.06.13 14:02

If he was in Surrey Police for 4 years and the Met for 8, it is extremely unlikely that he was a detective Superintendent when he left.
2 years Probation - uniform patrol.
Transfer to CID at earliest opportunity, first as Aide, ( 4 months) then Temp, (further 6 months) then DC, and get sent on the Detective Training Course
That is roughly three and half years.
Transfer to Met, go back in uniform.
DC within a year, possible but unlikely given the pressure of competition from Met officers, DSgt after another 2, . .
Detective Inspector is about the upper limit within that time scale.

But since when did anything about the story make sense ?

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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by plebgate on 29.06.13 14:04

@PeterMac wrote:If he was in Surrey Police for 4 years and the Met for 8, it is extremely unlikely that he was a detective Superintendent when he left.
2 years Probation - uniform patrol.
Transfer to CID at earliest opportunity, first as Aide, ( 4 months)   then Temp, (further 6 months) then DC, and get sent on the Detective Training Course
That is roughly three and half years.
Transfer to Met, go back in uniform.
DC within a year, possible but unlikely given the pressure of competition from Met officers,  DSgt after another 2,  . .
Detective Inspector is about the upper limit within that time scale.

But since when did anything about the story make sense ?



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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by Tony Bennett on 29.06.13 14:20

Noel Hogan, for a retired detective, has made some pretty bold claims.

Like this one:

Noel Hogan, of investigators Hogan and Co International, said last night: "We were aware of this man's movements in the immediate run-up to the London bombing.

The context was:

http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/7-7-profile-germaine-lindsay.html

The amount of money Jamal was spending had aroused the suspicion of his bank who had taken the rather unusual step of bringing in private detectives to investigate him.

Noel Hogan, of investigators Hogan and Co International, said last night: "We were aware of this man's movements in the immediate run-up to the London bombing.

"As soon as we became aware of his involvement we contacted the Anti-Terrorist Branch. We have passed them our full records. I can say no more."

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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by tigger on 29.06.13 20:11

A bit more searching showed up this: from http://www.ehogans.com/

Good Evening . Commercial organisations are as open to as wide a range of criminal and civil abuses as the products or services they offer. Add to that the international and language barriers to achieving justice; and the corporate nightmare becomes all too real. Traditional investigation companies have been rooted in their own specialisation and, often their own country. Hogan International was established in the 80's as a modern alternative, with the technological advancement of the next millennium firmly in mind.

Each department comprises highly qualified personnel under the direct control of company founder Noel Hogan a former Metropolitan Police Officer with many years experience. The development of Hogan International has involved heavy investment, not only in key people, but in modern technology and complementary skills.

Hogan International has become renowned for it's work in the fields of: Tracing Missing Persons, Asset Investigations, Intellectual Property Infringement, Internal & External Financial Transaction Fraud, Surveillance, Electronic Security and all manner of Criminal Investigations acting for both Prosecution & Defence. It has earned international retainers from leading corporate organisations: Banks, Finance Houses, Insurers and The Legal Profession. Just how much of a force for change Hogan International has become we hope we will get the opportunity to demonstrate to you.

If you would like further information or details on any of our services, or wish to discuss a particular case, please complete our Request Form, alternatively see our Contact Information page. (To enhance the viewing of our site you may also wish to press F11 on your keyboard).

Fraud Investigation || Other Services || Contact Details || Clients Only || Forms Download || Mail Drop Search || Internet Search

VIsit thewebsite

HOGAN International is licensed under the Consumer Credit Act No. 247639 (all categories) and is also registered under the Data Protection Act No. F1297179 (all categories) They are also members of the following organisations:

The Association of British Investigators

The Institute of Professional Investigators
International Kommision der Detectiv-Verbande

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and:

http://www.macraesbluebook.co.uk/company/company.cfm?company=22135_Noel_Hogan_Aldershot_Hampshire

Noel Hogan

Third Floor Hippodrome House
Aldershot,  Hampshire,  GU11 1LZ

Country: England

Phone: 1252325700
Fax: 1252326222

Company Information

employee size: 10
sales: $500 - $999K
products: Detective And Armored Car Services

Business Activity

Detective and armored car services

http://www.links4lawyers.com/default.asp?action=category%20list&search=105

Hogan International  Free

  Private investigation firm run by Noel Hogan former Metropolitan Police Officer. Conducts tracing of missing persons, asset investigations, intellectual property infringement, internal & external financial transaction fraud, surveillance, electronic security and all manner of criminal investigations.

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Published on: 9/6/2006   Last Visited: 3/24/2007

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2. HOGAN International - Commercial Investigators. An Introduction

www.hogan-international.com/in - [Cached]
Published on: 3/4/2004   Last Visited: 3/4/2004

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Website: www.hogan-international.com
Hogan International (Commercial Investigators) provide a complete commercial investigation service to: Financial Institutions, Banks, Insurance Companies, The Legal Profession and Business & Commerce
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Saturday, 23 August 2008

Charlotte Pennington, Noel Hogan and Metodo 3
On January 2008, according to the investigation files from the DVD given to journalists, a police officer from Leicestershire Constabulary (Graham Michael) spoke with Charlotte Pennington (a former nanny from Ocean Club) in UK. She told that she had no additional information to give and confirmed the statement she had made to PJ, while still in Portugal.
Charlotte Pennington also said that she spoke to a British private investigator, Noel Hogan, working on behalf of Metodo 3. She assured Graham Michael that she only relayed to Noel Hogan the same information she gave to Polícia Judiciária, in Portugal, and to Leicestershire Police, on August 2007.
Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis
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So by the time of the above interview, she'd already spoken with Hogan, early in January.

The name of the website has changed but when I don't know. He was quick of the mark if he spoke to Pennington before she spoke to Michael.

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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by tigger on 29.06.13 20:28

A search of Companies House did not give me Hogan International in any shape or form: but look what I found instead.....


Hogan Investments Limited

CASH12,154 GBP
Included as part of current assets, cash refers to the amount held in current or deposit bank accounts.


BOOK VALUE1,074 GBP
Also known as net asset value, book value can give a rough indication of a company's net worth.


CURRENT LIABILITIES 7,373 GBP
Any amount owed by a company to other agents that must be paid within one year of the date on the balance sheet.


CURRENT ASSETS 17,154 GBP
Also known as circulating or floating assets, current assets constantly change from cash to goods and back again.


DETAILS
Hogan Investments LimitedEdit details
Company Number: 08070785
Company Type: Private limited with share capital
SIC Code: 7020, Letting Of Own Property
Inc. Date: 16 May 2012
Annual Returns: 16 May 2013
Annual Accounts: 31 Mar 2013
Last Updated: 11 Jun 2013
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Registered Address
9 Borelli Yard
Farnham
GU9 7NU
United Kingdom

Trading Address Edit details
9 Borelli Yard
Farnham
Surrey
GU9 7NU
Trading Tel: Add Telephone number
ABOUT HOGAN INVESTMENTS LIMITED
Hogan Investments Limited was registered on 16 May 2012. The business has a status listed as "Live"and it currently has 2 directors. It was founded by Mr Noel Hogan, Ms Lisa Andrews. Hogan Investments Limited has no subsidiaries.

FILINGS SHOWING ALL
DATE FILING DETAILS FLAG
24 May 2013 Accounts Filed at Company Registration Office
16 May 2013 Annual Returns
10 May 2013 Change of Accounting Reference Date
31 Mar 2013 Accounts
14 Aug 2012 Change of Officers

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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by Guest on 29.06.13 22:44

Tigger, his company website says that Hogan International is the trading name of Hogan & Co (Investigations and Security) Ltd; company number 2045318.

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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by Tony Bennett on 29.06.13 22:56

@tigger wrote:Saturday, 23 August 2008

Charlotte Pennington, Noel Hogan and Metodo 3

On January 2008, according to the investigation files from the DVD given to journalists, a police officer from Leicestershire Constabulary (Graham Michael) spoke with Charlotte Pennington (a former nanny from Ocean Club) in UK. She told that she had no additional information to give and confirmed the statement she had made to PJ, while still in Portugal.

Charlotte Pennington also said that she spoke to a British private investigator, Noel Hogan, working on behalf of Metodo 3. She assured Graham Michael that she only relayed to Noel Hogan the same information she gave to Polícia Judiciária, in Portugal, and to Leicestershire Police, on August 2007.

Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis
But on 14 January 2008, the Sunday Express wrote this:


"Hogan International, which specialises in asset investigations, is taking over the case after the McCanns benefactors voiced dismay at the lack of tangible progress made by the Spanish agency Metodo 3.

"Sources close to the inquiry say the two firms have a history of rivalry after previously clashing over conflicting investigations...".

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Re: Noel Hogan - McCann PI

Post by tigger on 30.06.13 6:40

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Tigger, his company website says that Hogan International is the trading name of Hogan & Co (Investigations and Security) Ltd; company number 2045318.

I think Sallypelt would know, but there are two different company numbers 08070785 for Hogan Investments and 2045318 for Hogan International or Hogan & Co.
Hogan Investments business is listed as 'letting own property' .
Hogan International is listed as 'detective and armored car services'.

So HI is the trading name of Hogan & Co. Hogan Investments is yet another company. Why didn't they simply list the company as HI? because there are no other firms with a similar name.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 30.06.13 20:16

I should add for the record that on 24 February the Sunday Express published this grovelling apology about Noel Hogan:


"On January 13 we published an article headed "Fears that new Maddie detective is 'not up to task'" in which we wrongly claimed that Noel Hogan’s investigation agency had taken over the private investigation into Maddie’s disappearance and accused it of being "not up to the task."

We wish to withdraw unequivocally the suggestion that either Mr Hogan or his agency are incompetent or had misled the McCanns about their capabilities. We are happy to clarify that Mr Hogan’s company has been retained by Metodo 3, the Spanish agency who work for the McCanns, to carry out work in the UK.

This is part of a long-standing arrangement between the two agencies to instruct each other for work in their respective countries. The impression we gave that there is animosity between them and that Mr Hogan breached professional confidences was also wrong.

We apologise to Mr Hogan for the embarrassment and distress caused by our article and have agreed to pay him and his agency compensation and legal costs".

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Post by sallypelt on 30.06.13 22:25

http://www.ehogans.com/News.html

There are a few interesting links on there.

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Post by sallypelt on 30.06.13 22:54

Hogan Investments Limited is an Active business incorporated in England & Wales on 16th May 2012. Their business activity is recorded as Other Letting And Operating Of Own Or Leased Real Estate. Hogan Investments Limited is run by 2 current members. 2 shareholders own the total shares within the company. It is not part of a group.

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