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Post by Guest on 23.06.13 21:39

Police 'spied on' Stephen Lawrence family, says Guardian newspaper

23 June 2013 Last updated at 19:48

Doreen Lawrence told the Guardian that the family had been suspicious of police motives at the time


A former undercover police officer says he took part in an operation to spy on the family of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence, the Guardian has reported.

Peter Francis reportedly said his task was to find "dirt" that could be used to "smear" them in the period shortly after his murder in April 1993.

The friend who witnessed the murder and campaigners angry at the case were also targets, according to the paper.

The Metropolitan Police said it recognised the gravity of the claims.

The claims have surfaced as a result of a joint investigation into undercover policing by the Guardian and Channel 4's Dispatches programme, to be broadcast on Monday 24 June.

Mr Francis, who spent four years living undercover in protest groups and has since become a whistleblower, also accused senior officers of deliberately withholding details of his role spying on the Lawrence family from the public inquiry led by Sir William Macpherson into the police's handling of the case.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said the allegations would "bring particular upset" to the Lawrence family, adding: "We share their concerns."

He said: "A thorough review and investigation into these matters - Operation Herne - is being overseen by Derbyshire Chief Constable Mick Creedon.

"Operation Herne is a live investigation, four strands of which are being supervised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission, and it would be inappropriate to pre-judge its findings."

But Doreen Lawrence, Stephen's mother, reportedly said: "Nothing can justify the whole thing about trying to discredit the family and people around us."

'Astonished'

Stephen Lawrence, a black teenager, was killed as he waited for a bus in April 1993.

More than 18 years later, in January 2012, Gary Dobson and David Norris were found guilty of his murder by an Old Bailey jury after a trial based on forensic evidence.

Scientists had found a tiny bloodstain on Dobson's jacket that could only have come from Mr Lawrence, and a single hair belonging to the teenager on Norris's jeans.

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Stephen Lawrence profile
Brought up in Plumstead, south-east London, the 18-year-old's family life was based on education and religious faith. Friends say he had a good and trusting nature.

He was born on 13 September, 1974 - the first of three children to Doreen and Neville who emigrated from Jamaica in the 1960s.

Neville was a carpenter, upholsterer, tailor and plasterer. Doreen took a university course and became a special needs teacher.

Stephen was studying A-levels in English, craft, design and technology and physics at Blackheath Bluecoat School.

He was keen on becoming an architect, and a local firm had already offered him a job.

He loved athletics and like many teenagers, liked going out, girls and music. He had never been involved in crime.

Profile of teen Stephen Lawrence

Dobson and Norris had first been arrested in connection with the murder just weeks after it happened, but the case against them collapsed.

A private prosecution against Dobson in 1994, launched by Stephen's parents, also failed and Dobson was acquitted.

In 1999, an inquiry chaired by Sir William Macpherson, a retired High Court judge, into the killing and its aftermath published a report accusing the police of institutional racism and making 70 recommendations, many aimed at improving police attitudes to racism.

Criticising the police, Sir William said he was "astonished by the lack of direction and organisation during the vital hours after the murder".

The Lawrences had been patronised, treated with "insensitivity and lack of sympathy", and kept in the dark about the investigation, he added.

But in 2011, the Court of Appeal concluded that there was enough new and substantial evidence to allow Dobson's previous acquittal to be quashed.

After Dobson and Norris' convictions, Stephen's mother Doreen Lawrence said: "I don't forgive the boys who killed Stephen. They don't think they have done anything wrong.

"They took away Stephen's life and there is nothing in their behaviour or anything to show they regret what their actions have done and the pain it has caused us as a family."

The then acting deputy commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, Cressida Dick, acknowledged that police believed there were five people involved in the murder, but there were currently no other "live" lines of inquiry.

In a statement read by his lawyer outside the Old Bailey, Stephen's father, Neville Lawrence, said the convictions were a moment of joy and relief - but he could not rest until all of those who killed his son were brought to justice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23022634

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Daily Mail Front page tomorrow

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Post by jd on 23.06.13 23:42

If this does not wake people up...nothing will

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Post by jd on 24.06.13 0:23

Stephen Lawrence family and friends targeted by police 'smear' campaign


Exclusive: former undercover officer Peter Francis says superiors wanted him to find 'dirt' shortly after 1993 murder


police officer who spent four years living undercover in protest groups has revealed how he participated in an operation to spy on and attempt to "smear" the family of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence, the friend who witnessed his fatal stabbing and campaigners angry at the failure to bring his killers to justice.

Peter Francis, a former undercover police officer turned whistleblower, said his superiors wanted him to find "dirt" that could be used against members of the Lawrence family, in the period shortly after Lawrence's racist murder in April 1993.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/23/stephen-lawrence-undercover-police-smears

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Post by Ollie1 on 24.06.13 1:25

This is truly shocking....spying on a family who's son had been murdered, because they were racist. This is absolutely disgusting. My opinion of the police couldn't get any lower now.


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Post by plebgate on 24.06.13 8:09

As many posters have commented in the past, trying to discredit people who seek justice.   If it wasn't for the internet nothing would change, but I do feel that some change is coming about.

Those who don't are very foolish indeed, because Truth will out eventually now that the plebs can speak to each other and share thoughts instantly.

No wonder some want to get free speech abolished so they can continue with their murky way of living.  pah.

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Post by guest. on 24.06.13 8:26

jd - I'm not sure anything will wake the majority of the population up for various reasons, some are just too busy working to survive, some just don't care as long as their immediate world is ok, a lot say whats the point we cant change anything. I think what I least understand are those that see it but don't care.

Plebgate -  IMO what has occurred on the Internet regarding the McCanns is a part of why it is hopefully coming to a conclusion.   20 years ago us plebs wouldn't have known anything other than what the papers printed and that's scary.

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Post by Guest on 24.06.13 9:14

Lawrence police smear claims: Cameron demands investigation


24 June 2013 Last updated at 08:43






Peter Francis, who says he says he posed as an anti-racism campaigner, served in the Met's now-disbanded Special Demonstration Squad


The prime minister has called for an immediate investigation into reports the police wanted to smear the family of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence.
Number 10 said David Cameron was "deeply concerned" by the allegations in the Guardian made by former officer Peter Francis.
The newspapers claims Mr Francis went under cover to infiltrate the family's campaign for justice in 1993.
Scotland Yard has refused to confirm or deny the reports.
But a spokesman said the Metropolitan Police shared the Lawrence family's concerns.
Former Home Secretary Jack Straw told the BBC he would be asking the Independent Police Complaints Commission to investigate the allegations.
Mr Francis told the Guardian and Channel 4's Dispatches programme he had posed as an anti-racism campaigner in a hunt for "disinformation" to use against those criticising the police.
'Tarring the campaign'
He said the Metropolitan Police were concerned the reaction to the Lawrence murder might result in rioting similar to that following the beating of Rodney King in Los Angeles.
Working as part of the Met's now-disbanded Special Demonstration Squad, which specialised in gathering intelligence on political activists, he said he came under pressure to find "any intelligence that could have smeared the campaign" - including whether any of the family were political activists, involved in demonstrations or drug dealers.
Doreen Lawrence told the Guardian that the family had been suspicious of police motives at the time
Mr Francis, who used the name Peter Black while under cover, says the aim of his operation was to ensure that the public "did not have as much sympathy for the Stephen Lawrence campaign" and to persuade "the media to start maybe tarring the campaign".
A Number 10 spokesman said: "The prime minister is deeply concerned by reports that the police wanted to smear Stephen Lawrence's family and would like the Metropolitan Police to investigate immediately."
Doreen Lawrence said she was shocked and angry at the disclosure. She said: "Out of all the things I've found out over the years, this certainly has topped it."
"It just makes me really, really angry that all of this has been going on and all the time trying to undermine us as a family.
"Somebody sitting somewhere, calculating what, you know, what they'd be doing to look at and infiltrate, our family. It's like, we're treated as if to say we're not human beings.

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At some point it will fall upon this generation of police leaders to account for the activities of our predecessors, but for the moment we must focus on getting to the truth”
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"Nothing can justify the whole thing about trying to discredit the family and people round us."
The Metropolitan Police would not confirm or deny the account given by Mr Francis, but admitted "the claims in relation to Stephen Lawrence's family will bring particular upset to them and we share their concerns".
An independent investigation into a number of allegations against former undercover police officers, codenamed Operation Herne is under way.
In a statement the Met said: "Any actions by officers working on or with the Special Demonstration Squad need to be understood by Operation Herne in terms of the leadership, supervision, support, training, legal framework, tasking and reporting mechanisms that were in place at the time."
'Morally reprehensible'
But the force gave the same response to allegations that another undercover officer had helped write the leaflets at the centre of the McLibel trial in the mid 1980s.
The statement said: "At some point it will fall upon this generation of police leaders to account for the activities of our predecessors, but for the moment we must focus on getting to the truth."

Stephen Lawrence profile
Brought up in Plumstead, south-east London, the 18-year-old's family life was based on education and religious faith. Friends say he had a good and trusting nature.
He was born on 13 September, 1974 - the first of three children to Doreen and Neville who emigrated from Jamaica in the 1960s.
Neville was a carpenter, upholsterer, tailor and plasterer. Doreen took a university course and became a special needs teacher.
Stephen was studying A-levels in English, craft, design and technology and physics at Blackheath Bluecoat School.
He was keen on becoming an architect, and a local firm had already offered him a job.
He loved athletics and, like many teenagers, liked going out, girls and music. He had never been involved in crime.

Mr Francis told the Guardian he had come forward because of the "morally reprehensible" way in which under cover officers had sometimes worked.
He is particularly angry his role was never discussed by the Stephen Lawrence public inquiry chaired by retired High Court judge Sir William Macpherson. He claims senior officers deliberately chose to withhold the information from the inquiry.
Stephen Lawrence, a black teenager, was killed as he waited for a bus in April 1993.
More than 18 years later, in January 2012, Gary Dobson and David Norris were found guilty of his murder by an Old Bailey jury after a review of the forensic evidence.
Dobson and Norris had first been arrested in connection with the murder just weeks after it happened, but the case against them collapsed.
In 1999, the Macpherson inquiry into the killing and its aftermath published a report accusing the police of institutional racism.
Sir William said during the investigation the Lawrences had been patronised, treated with "insensitivity and lack of sympathy", and kept in the dark.
Dispatches is broadcast on Channel 4 on Monday 24 June at 20:00 BST.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23026324

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Post by jd on 24.06.13 9:34

sally66 wrote:jd - I'm not sure anything will wake the majority of the population up for various reasons, some are just too busy working to survive, some just don't care as long as their immediate world is ok, a lot say whats the point we cant change anything. I think what I least understand are those that see it but don't care.

I totally agree, and the TPTB are laughing their heads off at the population with their naivety & stupidity, with the knowledge of what is soon to come. People will only take notice after they are forced to accept the RFID chip, forced to eat GM food not fit for rats to consume, and become totally enslaved to them with no way out. When the day arrives you need to have the chip in your hand to be able to pay for anything, this will be the end, they are already slowly conditioning the population to accept the chip. I think the only way to make people realise is to take away Georgie Shore, football, x factor...Now this would get a reaction!!!

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Post by jd on 24.06.13 9:40

I don't think Cameron cares in the slightest. He is more concerned with his world crusade and 'global one world' ambitions for us. His 'concern' for Stephen Lawrence's family is just Public Relations BS...Why does he not stop G4S gradually taking over the police force? Answer, because they are primed to be the state police under martial law who will be accountable to nobody. And if Cameron was really concerned about the public then he would also eat GM foods and his family if it so good for human comsumption....It really is the case of 'do I say, not as I do'...

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Post by bobbin on 24.06.13 10:30

@jd wrote:I don't think Cameron cares in the slightest. He is more concerned with his world crusade and 'global one world' ambitions for us. His 'concern' for Stephen Lawrence's family is just Public Relations BS...Why does he not stop G4S gradually taking over the police force? Answer, because they are primed to be the state police under martial law who will be accountable to nobody. And if Cameron was really concerned about the public then he would also eat GM foods and his family if it so good for human comsumption....It really is the case of 'do I say, not as I do'...
There is a hidden irony here though jd.
How is cameroon going to know that his food has not become contaminated by GMO?
Cross contamination will jump crops and nothing will be pure.
It won't be labeled as such, and someone providing his 'pure-food' supply will watch the system, see where he/she can make a sly buck and send a GMO food basket up to the big house, all tarted up as 'pure'.
He and his children won't know the difference until they become irreversibly ill.
When the bees die, where will cameroon's food come from? Fruit fertilised by a slave with a paint brush?
A slave who won't ignore his own hunger to spare the last bit of food, just to deliver it to the big house.
Cameroon might get enough good food for his life-time, but what about his kids? ...And when the slaves have died and his kids have to dig the sterile ground themselves to scrape a failed harvest together, to find it stolen by a bigger, hungrier guy.......?
These 'illuminati-created-new-world-order-things' are not that enlightened.....they think only, that 'others will suffer at their behest' and according to their planned agenda, failing to think the larger picture through, and realise that they will also have 'cr*pped' in their own water supply.
Guardianship of the world, its resources, leaving the place in a fit position to be 'naturally' self-sustaining is the only solution.
They have decided that there are too many people, so there must be a 'culling'.
Their methods of fouling their own water supply however, in their desire to cause mass elimination, can only backfire on them, when the targetted individuals cotton on to what's really happening and turn around on their oppressors.
History is riddled with tales of the 'high ranking rulers of one day' being disposed of, in various means, ranging from democratic overthrow to barbaric dismemberment, the following day.
Complacency rules until people become pushed too far for comfort, then they start to resist, to assemble, to retaliate.
People become affected at different rates. The poor first, then the comfortable, then the apparent rulers, and as each group cottons on, the numbers of disaffected grow to a critical mass.
As much as the elite have 'culling' in mind, so can the disaffected engender the same thought patterns.
All are human, all are as vulnerable to being cornered, isolated, surrounded by opponents and disposed of, be they an insignificant member of 'jo public' or some 'identified' high flyer.
The arrogant self-serving clubs should remain circumspect for their own safety and the future for their families. Start a war and you have a battle. Losses can happen on both sides.

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Post by Ollie1 on 24.06.13 11:33

Stephens family only wanted justice. They weren't asking for anything else.

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Post by jd on 24.06.13 11:48

I understand what you are saying, but they have their 'food' sorted out which we won't know about unless you are in the club so to speak. But its a good question, where will Cameron's food come from when the bees are extinct? Unless they have preserved some in some colony miles away from public access, I don't know except they don't eat what we eat. As Kissinger famously said "Control food, control the population", this I see is becoming reality now. Why in America did they pass a law so Monsanto can never be challenged? I do see a pattern forming which very much goes along the UN's Agenda 21, and getting the farmers/population out of the rural countryside. It starting in China already where they are (in most cases at gunpoint) relocating from rural farmlands to the 'urban "Ghost towns" they have been building (now we know what these mystery 'ghost towns' are for) at a rate of 1 million per month. It starting to happen in the US using the economic way of the same goal of forcing farmers away from the rural land, I am sure the same is happening in the UK with the tactic of farm animals having diseases and crops not growing as well as economic etc. Ive read much about farmers from all countires who are mysteriously committing suicide, it looks like they are being totally pushed out. None of this is in the best interests of humanity. And who will be living in the nice countryside I wonder!!!

The Chinese Version of Agenda 21
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/06/18/the-chinese-version-of-agenda-21-and-why-the-us-should-care/

Things in the States are really becoming incredibly absurd, what happens there will happen here and all of Europe, Canada, Australia etc

Water Complaints Could be “Act of Terrorism”
A bureaucrat caused outrage amongst an audience in Maury County, Tennessee when he warned that unfounded complaints about water quality could be considered an “act of terrorism” under federal laws enforced by the Department of Homeland Security

http://www.infowars.com/bureaucrat-water-complaints-could-be-act-of-terrorism/

I agree what you say about history, for me the difference will be that this time around is technology. If they do create this cashless society, which I believe is being set up via the future economy crash and Austerity & many other things they are doing quietly under the radar, this will give them the basis to impose the chip and once you have the chip in you I cannot see a way out from it as it will be set up that you cannot eat or survive without having one. They know this will cause riots etc and it is obvious why they are at this moment in time slowly introducing state police, martial law lockdown in Boston recently, trying to get rid of the 2nd amendment. And with this chip inside you they can effectively just shut you down, I don't think people realise just how powerful this chip is. And now we are starting to see this chip on mainstream media such as the channel 5 programme the other week (promoted as a fun and 'what a cool thing this is' type of promotion) which actually said we will all be implanted with one to pay for goods......you can see where we are heading and it is not a myth

But once the elite had got rid of the population, what will be left to entertain them...not much. Then they will start turning on themselves

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Post by jd on 24.06.13 11:50

@Ollie1 wrote:Stephens family only wanted justice. They weren't asking for anything else.

I know. The whole thing stinks, I really feel for the Lawrence family and can only admire their strength in keeping it together and their dignity

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[quote="jd"...Why does he not stop G4S gradually taking over the police force? Answer, because they are primed to be the state police under martial law who will be accountable to nobody.

As if on cue.....

Lincolnshire Police Deal With G4S Saves £5m
9:58am UK, Monday 24 June 2013


Lincolnshire Police slashes its budget and also cuts crime in the first 12 months of a 10-year deal with security firm G4S.
Britain's police forces could save £1bn-a-year by handing work to private security companies, a commissioner has claimed.
Lincolnshire Police is championing outsourcing after slashing £5m from their annual budget by shifting back-room jobs to the security firm G4S.

The force now spends the lowest amount per head of population on policing in England and Wales following changes to its back-office operations.

It has cut its spending by nearly a fifth in the first year of its 10-year contract with G4S - equal to the cost of 125 police officers - while also slashing crime by more than 14%.

Lincolnshire police and crime commissioner (PCC) Alan Hardwick claims the national purse could save £1bn if the other 42 police forces in England and Wales followed suit.

The deal, which started last April, saw 18 operational and organisational support areas and 585 staff transferred to G4S Policing Support Services.

Among the departments transferred to private hands were the force control room, firearms licensing and custody.

A four-month backlog of files for processing firearms licences has been cleared and the 999 call response rate has risen to an average of 93% answered in 10 seconds, up from 89% in 2011/12.

The force had expected to make savings of £3.6m in the first year but exceeded this by £1.6m. It is expected to save £36m over the 10 years.

Independent PCC Mr Hardwick highlighted the need for police forces to be extra vigilant with money as deep spending cuts bite.

He said: "The Spending Review is likely to outline billions of pounds of additional cuts to public spending. This is on top of sizeable reductions already made.

"For police forces, whose budgets are already nearly 20% leaner than in 2010, the challenge - to improve quality while finding savings - is about to get bigger."

John Shaw, managing director of G4S Policing Support Services, added: "There will be many forces around the country facing difficult decisions about how to maintain services in the face of constricting budgets.

"The past year has been enormously challenging and there are important lessons which can be learned from our experience. We hope that by sharing some of our experience, other forces can learn and ultimately benefit."

G4S faced fierce criticism last year over its botched handling of its Olympics security contract.

The firm failed to deliver the numbers of security staff it had promised and the Government was forced to bring in extra troops to provide support.

The fiasco led to calls to scale back privatisation plans in other police forces and prompted the then Surrey Police Authority to shelve plans to contract out some of its support functions to the private sector.

http://news.sky.com/story/1107427/lincolnshire-police-deal-with-g4s-saves-5m


A further look into G4S (whom bill gates has recently invested more into), we can see that it doesn't stop here...




G4S, the same mob which has presided over the biggest security stuff-up in recent Olympic history, also operates prisons and prisoner transport services in Victoria.(Australia)
http://www.smh.com.au/business/g4s-creates-a-few-hairy-moments-for-local-screws-20120723-22j2z.html


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Post by Newintown on 24.06.13 16:36

sally66 wrote:jd - I'm not sure anything will wake the majority of the population up for various reasons, some are just too busy working to survive, some just don't care as long as their immediate world is ok, a lot say whats the point we cant change anything. I think what I least understand are those that see it but don't care.

Plebgate -  IMO what has occurred on the Internet regarding the McCanns is a part of why it is hopefully coming to a conclusion.   20 years ago us plebs wouldn't have known anything other than what the papers printed and that's scary.

I was thinking a while ago that I have learnt so much from this forum, not just about Madeleine McCann, but from reading other topics over the past few years, and what I've read really scares me and has opened my eyes to so many things that go on which are hidden by our so-called Politicians and Leaders; NWO and the "all-seeing eye",  for instance, amongst many others.  I watch things on TV and the internet news but have never noticed the significance until it was pointed out on this forum.

I fear for the young children of today being brought up in such a corrupt, selfish World.  I worked with a girl some years ago who had two young boys (5 and 7 at the time) but she had never voted in her life, she always said, well none of the Politicians are worth voting for, I'll leave it up to everyone else to decide.  I always argued with her, but if you don't vote how can you make it a better World for your children to grow up in, she didn't seem to see the logic.   I felt as if I was banging my head against a brick wall, but then she moaned that the present government (Labour at the time) were useless.  I felt like banging her against a brick wall, but resisted the temptation.   big grin

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Post by Newintown on 24.06.13 16:52

@jd wrote:
@Ollie1 wrote:Stephens family only wanted justice. They weren't asking for anything else.

I know. The whole thing stinks, I really feel for the Lawrence family and can only admire their strength in keeping it together and their dignity

I feel gutted for the Lawrence family also; didn't Mr & Mrs Lawrence split up through the trauma of it all. What a horrendous thing for them to find out now. How corrupt could the Police be at that time and stoop to such a low level. I truly hope that things have now changed for the better in finding justice for Madeleine and SY and the CPS will not let her or us down.

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Post by tiny on 24.06.13 17:27

@Newintown wrote:
@jd wrote:
@Ollie1 wrote:Stephens family only wanted justice. They weren't asking for anything else.

I know. The whole thing stinks, I really feel for the Lawrence family and can only admire their strength in keeping it together and their dignity

I feel gutted for the Lawrence family also; didn't Mr & Mrs Lawrence split up through the trauma of it all.  What a horrendous thing for them to find out now.  How corrupt could the Police be at that time and stoop to such a low level.  I truly hope that things have now changed for the better in finding justice for Madeleine and SY and the CPS will not let her or us down.


this is why I feel that Madeleine will not get the justice she deserves

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Post by guest. on 24.06.13 18:15

I'm quite optimistic Tiny IMO there's a few sacrificial lambs at the moment and I think the McCanns and some of the Tapas crew will be amongst them.

Can you imagine how much bad news they could hide amongst the fall out of their arrests

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Re: Police 'spied on' Stephen Lawrence family, says Guardian newspaper

Post by tiny on 24.06.13 18:27

sally66 wrote:I'm quite optimistic Tiny IMO there's a few sacrificial lambs at the moment and I think the McCanns and some of the Tapas crew will be amongst them.

Can you imagine how much bad news they could hide amongst the fall out of their arrests


oh yes,so I am sitting on the fence as it were,waiting for justice for Madeliene.

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Re: Police 'spied on' Stephen Lawrence family, says Guardian newspaper

Post by PeterMac on 24.06.13 21:31

The Lawrence family took on their own Lawyer - Khan - who clearly had his own agenda which was not about assisting the police.
He eventually mucked up the whole thing by taking out a private prosecution, which by law has to be taken over by the CPS - which then spectacularly failed.
Only years later did it come out that the Met were simply not ready. They had in fact BOUGHT the house next door to one of the main suspects and were conducting long term surveillance at vast expense, but obviously could not tell Khan or anyone else that, so had to suffer in silence when the accusations were levelled at them about lack of action, and so on.

It was not as one sided as we are now being invited to believe. But memories fade.

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Re: Police 'spied on' Stephen Lawrence family, says Guardian newspaper

Post by Guest on 24.06.13 22:46

Memories fade. But fortunately there are always people, who remember.

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Re: Police 'spied on' Stephen Lawrence family, says Guardian newspaper

Post by jd on 24.06.13 22:54

Someone has made a good point.....Is this further ammunition for the government to discredit the police service...ie G4S

I certainly would not put it past them to try this, especially as it is becoming obvious that G4S are being primed in the shadows as we head towards martial law

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Re: Police 'spied on' Stephen Lawrence family, says Guardian newspaper

Post by Guest on 31.07.13 12:36

Stephen Lawrence's Mother Given Lords Seat

The mother of Stephen Lawrence, who has campaigned for justice since his murder in 1993, is being given a seat in the House of Lords.
Doreen Lawrence, 60, is being made a baroness and will sit on Labour's benches in the Upper House as a working peer.
Party leader Ed Miliband signed off the proposal and it was put forward to Downing Street as part of Labour's recommendations.
A new peerages list is expected to be released on Thursday, confirming the appointment

Mrs Lawrence led the campaign to expose the failings of the police investigation into her teenage son's murder.
This led to the groundbreaking MacPherson Report which warned of "institutional racism" at Scotland Yard.
A special needs teacher and divorcee, she also founded a charity in her son's name to promote a positive community legacy.
Last year, she was picked to take part in the opening ceremony for the London 2012 Olympics and held the Olympic flag.
She was awarded an OBE for services to community relations in 2003 and is also on the board of human rights group Liberty.
Stephen, 18, was killed by a gang of white youths at a bus stop in Eltham in April 1993.
The case and its handling by police became notorious and forced a reassessment of how police investigated racially motivated crimes.
Two of the original murder suspects, Gary Dobson and David Norris, were convicted of the murder in January last year

http://news.sky.com/story/1122658/stephen-lawrences-mother-given-lords-seat


I respect and admire this woman for never giving up on her search for the truth behind her sons murder.

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Re: Police 'spied on' Stephen Lawrence family, says Guardian newspaper

Post by plebgate on 31.07.13 13:59

Seconded Cherry Blossom. She has never given up in the search for the truth.

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