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Post by Guest on 17.06.13 7:30

Moors murderer Ian Brady: Right to die legal bid starts today as serial killer wants to starve to death
16 Jun 2013 22:13
A mental health tribunal will examine Brady's claim that he is sane as a new TV documentary examines photo clues to victim Keith Bennett's burial spot


Moors murderer Ian Brady will appear in court today to demand the right to die.
A mental health tribunal will [url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/ian brady]examine the serial killer’s claim[/url] that he is sane and should be allowed to starve himself to death.
Brady, 75, has been on hunger strike for 13 years but is force fed because he is sectioned under the Mental Health Act, meaning he is not deemed fit to make a decision about ending his own life.
His appeal comes as a TV documentary is set to claim that photos taken in the 60s by Brady and accomplice Myra Hindley could reveal where they buried 12-year-old Keith Bennett.
The programme will say the child killers used the pictures to mark the locations of their victims’ graves.
One photo shows Brady smiling as he poses with a dog at a beauty spot called Ramshaw Rocks near Leek, Staffs.
This is where Keith’s body might be found, according to the documentary which is entitled Brady and Hindley: Possession.
Ramshaw Rocks is 40 miles from Saddleworth Moor where the killers’ other victims were found.
Keith’s family have criticised the tribunal, insisting that Brady should not be allowed to choose to die

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/moors-murderer-ian-brady-right-1957423

Did he and Myra Hindley give the chidren they murdered a choice NO!! this man was born evil let him suffer. He made those children suffer when he brutaly murdered them. 







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Post by aquila on 17.06.13 8:42

I wish Brady would be found sane. I wish him to be told he can have his right to die only on the basis of disclosing where Keith is buried. When Keith's body is found and his family are out of their agony I wish Brady would then be told that he doesn't have the right to end his own life. I wish someone would then tell Brady 'now you are sane you'll understand that sometimes life ain't fair, enjoy your time and your many meals to come sir'.

I know these wishes break the laws that protect Brady....but it's nice to wish.

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Post by Guest on 17.06.13 9:23

This isn't about dying; it's about power and control.



If Ian Brady was determined to die, he would have found a way 13 years ago.



If he gets his wish, he will die but, more importantly to him, it will be under his control. Those that look after him will be forced to stand back and watch unable to interfere. He will be powerful again.



He thrives on control and right now he can't even control what, or when, he is fed.



Keith Bennett's body is the only remnant of power he has, he tortured Winnie all those years, and I'm sure that he has made arrangements to reveal Keith's location after his death.



So, treat him with the compassion that an obviously mentally ill old man deserves - do everything possible to keep him alive. The Bennett family should announce that they are no longer looking for Keith's body and that they forgive Ian & Myra. After that, no publicity.



Do this and he will spend his final days in hell.

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Post by Guest on 17.06.13 10:19

He does thinks he's in control he's playing mind games like he always has. I have no compastion for this evil psychopath, I hope they keep force feeding him until he eventualy dies. He may know where Keith's body is buried but if he gets his right to die would he reveal it, imo no he will have achieved what he wanted

Ian Brady 'may have revealed' Keith Bennett burial place
Ian Brady was jailed for life in 1966

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Detectives are examining claims Moors Murderer Ian Brady may have revealed information about where 12-year-old victim Keith Bennett is buried.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19292164

I remember reading the transcript of the tape recording made while they were murdering Lesley Ann Downey how her mother sat through listening to her daughter's voice I will never know. The British public who can remember, or anyone who has read about the two most evil serial killers will never forget or forgive

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Brady

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Post by Guest on 17.06.13 10:30

Yes it doesn't bear thinking about what it must have been like to hear that tape.

I woke up shaking from a bad dream in the middle of last night - in the dream, my son was missing and I rang his mobile in the hope that he'd answer. He did but in the most panic-stricken voice - mum, mum, get me out of here - before the call was cut off.

That as I say was a dream.

Lesley's mother would have lived with the reality of what happened to her daughter for the rest of her life.

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Post by Guest on 17.06.13 11:31

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Yes it doesn't bear thinking about what it must have been like to hear that tape.

I woke up shaking from a bad dream in the middle of last night - in the dream, my son was missing and I rang his mobile in the hope that he'd answer. He did but in the most panic-stricken voice - mum, mum, get me out of here - before the call was cut off.

That as I say was a dream.

Lesley's mother would have lived with the reality of what happened to her daughter for the rest of her life.

You need a strong stomach to read this deeply upsetting transcript of the tape. All I can say is I hope all the children are resting in peace, and their families have found and are still finding some comfort and peace. 

http://schadenfreudeuk.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/lesley-ann-downey-tape-transcript.html

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Post by tasprin on 17.06.13 12:36

Judge Robert Atherton said there would be no consideration of the whereabouts of Keith Bennett's body and no questions in relation to Keith Bennett would be permitted.

A doctor who interviewed Brady told the court that Brady had described his behaviour (the murder and torture of five children) as "petty" in relation to politicians in matters of war - The doctor said when he put it to Brady that he was psychotic, Brady replied that he'd been "acting".

How much is this public hearing costing the taxpayer? It's obvious Brady has no remorse at all and his application to return to prison (so he can starve himself to death) should not even have been considered until he reveals where Keith Bennett is buried.

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Post by Nina on 17.06.13 15:05

If he really wanted to die then he would have found a way. Even after force feeding he could have made himself sick, hence starving to death. Sorry to be so graphic but he could.

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Post by aiyoyo on 17.06.13 16:17

Shame an eye for an eye does not apply to him.  

I suppose he thinks he's an angel compared to Hitler! 
 I wish there's law to make him suffer a torturous death in the same manner he subjected his victims.

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Post by tigger on 17.06.13 16:42

@aiyoyo wrote:Shame an eye for an eye does not apply to him.  

I suppose he thinks he's an angel compared to Hitler! 
 I wish there's law to make him suffer a torturous death in the same manner he subjected his victims.

He just wants the attention. One thing he could do is to tell the police where he buried one of the bodies they've never found. It would help the parents. I think Hindley could have done so too. B............s

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Post by Guest on 18.06.13 13:43

He is playing macaber mind games, I believe he thought he would be asked about the burial place of Keith Bennet and say he would give the information when he is moved to a prison. the Judge is right to say Keiths burial place is not what the tribunal is about. The monster is a psychopath he wants the power and control, I believe he would start eating and not reveal the burial place, he doesn't want the right to die he wants the right to live how he choses, a choice he never gave the children.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4972414/moors-murderer-ian-brady-in-first-public-appearance-since-66.html

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Post by jd on 18.06.13 14:04

Moors murderer Ian Brady

Wednesday, June 12, 2013

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/jimmy-savile-child-murderers-top-people.html


Child murderers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, who had friends in high places.

The child murderers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley had powerful friends.

Ian Brady was befriended by Sir Jimmy Savile.

Myra Hindley was befriended by Lord David Astor, a former editor of the Observer, and by Lord Longford, a former cabinet minister who took a great interest in pornography.

Astor and Longford plotted to get Hindley released from prison.

Myra Hindley's relationship with Lord Longford

Some people believe that Hindley has secretly been released from prison, although the official story is that she is dead.


In the 1970s, Lord Longford, friend of Hindley, compiled a self-funded report into pornography.

Lord Longford invited Sir Jimmy Savile, the Bishop of Leicester and Cliff Richard to join him on a wide-ranging tour of sex industry establishments, including strip clubs in Copenhagen.

Cliff Richard, Jimmy Savile, Lord Longford, Myra Hindley...

Moors Murderer Myra Hindley, 60, reportedly died in a hospital in 2002.

No family members attended her 'hasty' cremation service.

At the inquest there were no protesters, friends or relatives.

Her medical records were filed under a false name: Christine Charlton.

Her death certificate has never been published



According to Myra Hindley's diary, she and Ian Brady were regular visitors to the New Elizabethan Ballroom, in Manchester.

They attended at least one of the many sessions hosted by the resident DJ, Jimmy Savile.

"On Boxing Day, 1964, Brady and Hindley made an audio recording as they bound, gagged and photographed Lesley Ann Downey before they killed her."

Ian Brady became Jimmy Savile's friend.

Savile was also acquainted with Ronnie Kray and Peter Sutcliffe.



Peter Sutcliffe committing one of 'his' murders just opposite Jimmy Savile's penthouse in Leeds, and another in Savile Park in Halifax.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229786/Jimmy-Savile-Yorkshire-Ripper-Cast-DJs-teeth-check-bites-left-Peter-Sutcliffes-victims.html

Longford is related to Harriet Harman of NCCL - Liberty - she is his niece.


Harriet Harman QC MP. Multi millionaire multiculturalist Labour Party Deputy Leader. When Legal Officer at the National Council for Civil Liberties ( later Liberty) 1978 to 1982 she constantly lobbied the Government to legalise Child pornography , paedophilia and incest , she has repeatedly denied this but recently released Government documents have her signature on them. A niece of Lord Longford she is very close to Hodge and Hewitt. Married to Jack Dromey MP.
http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=10563

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Post by sonic72 on 18.06.13 21:06

Personally he should be made to suffer until the bitter end. He is either trying to manipulate the system, as many prisoners do, or he is trying to get an easy way out from his nightmare in jail. As much as I'd love to see him dead, I say keep him alive, let him suffer some more.

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Post by Guest on 19.06.13 11:06

@sonic72 wrote:Personally he should be made to suffer until the bitter end. He is either trying to manipulate the system, as many prisoners do, or he is trying to get an easy way out from his nightmare in jail. As much as I'd love to see him dead, I say keep him alive, let him suffer some more.

I echo your comments sonic72.                                      


jd thanks for posting info, it is amazing how the names link together, if it weren't for these blogs and the digging they do to get to the truth no one would be any the wiser, we certainly would not hear about it in the MSM. 

Myra Hindlley was the most evil woman in Britain.



2012-06-30
NEVER SAY DIE! NEW CLAIMS RAISE DOUBTS OF MYRA HINDLEY’S DEATH By Giovanni Di Stefano and Tiina Paivarinta

A primary school nurse was driving through a country lane about six weeks after Myra Hindley was supposedly pronounced dead. It was night time and the nurse's car was suddenly hit in the back by another vehicle

The woman driver who hit her got out of her car and came to talk to the nurse. The nurse looked carefully, recognised the woman as Myra Hindley and said: "Oh my God you're Myra Hindley."
The woman burst into tears and replied "you can't say that, you can't say that" and drove off hurriedly.
The nurse however, noted the registration number of the car and upon returning home called the police. She recounted what had happened, telling them that it was "Myra Hindley" at the wheel of the other car.
The police visited the nurse the following day but rather than assist her with noting an accident, they scared and intimidated her. They asked her to withdraw the accident claim and report, and suggested instead that the incident had "never happened"


http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.info/content/sitenewsreadmore/infobox/news/template/default/active_id/814


The artical is too long to post, but it does leave you asking the question  "Did she realy die"?




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Post by nomendelta on 19.06.13 11:41

He's apparently got "chronic anger issues"...you don't say. Over the years I've noted a number of people - children especially but some adults carry it through if they haven't learnt in childhood - with such "anger issues" and what's interesting is that it almost always manifests when they aren't as in control of a situation as they want to be. Since we know Brady is likely a pathological control freak it's safe to say his "chronic anger" is nothing more than childish pique at not getting his own way.

Make the evil cnut live a long, dull, boring life where he isn't pandered to by "professionals", no contact with anyone other than being fed etc.

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Post by womandotcom on 19.06.13 11:43

Cherry Blossom wrote:
@sonic72 wrote:Personally he should be made to suffer until the bitter end. He is either trying to manipulate the system, as many prisoners do, or he is trying to get an easy way out from his nightmare in jail. As much as I'd love to see him dead, I say keep him alive, let him suffer some more.

I echo your comments sonic72.                                      


jd thanks for posting info, it is amazing how the names link together, if it weren't for these blogs and the digging they do to get to the truth no one would be any the wiser, we certainly would not hear about it in the MSM. 

Myra Hindlley was the most evil woman in Britain.



2012-06-30
NEVER SAY DIE! NEW CLAIMS RAISE DOUBTS OF MYRA HINDLEY’S DEATH By Giovanni Di Stefano and Tiina Paivarinta

A primary school nurse was driving through a country lane about six weeks after Myra Hindley was supposedly pronounced dead. It was night time and the nurse's car was suddenly hit in the back by another vehicle

The woman driver who hit her got out of her car and came to talk to the nurse. The nurse looked carefully, recognised the woman as Myra Hindley and said: "Oh my God you're Myra Hindley."
The woman burst into tears and replied "you can't say that, you can't say that" and drove off hurriedly.
The nurse however, noted the registration number of the car and upon returning home called the police. She recounted what had happened, telling them that it was "Myra Hindley" at the wheel of the other car.
The police visited the nurse the following day but rather than assist her with noting an accident, they scared and intimidated her. They asked her to withdraw the accident claim and report, and suggested instead that the incident had "never happened"


http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.info/content/sitenewsreadmore/infobox/news/template/default/active_id/814


The artical is too long to post, but it does leave you asking the question  "Did she realy die"?



Call me a conspiracy nut if you like, but from the get go I had a feeling that she was being released and the only way the public would ever accept that was if she 'died'

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Post by Guest on 19.06.13 12:19

@womandotcom wrote:
Cherry Blossom wrote:
@sonic72 wrote:Personally he should be made to suffer until the bitter end. He is either trying to manipulate the system, as many prisoners do, or he is trying to get an easy way out from his nightmare in jail. As much as I'd love to see him dead, I say keep him alive, let him suffer some more.

I echo your comments sonic72.                                      


jd thanks for posting info, it is amazing how the names link together, if it weren't for these blogs and the digging they do to get to the truth no one would be any the wiser, we certainly would not hear about it in the MSM. 

Myra Hindlley was the most evil woman in Britain.



2012-06-30
NEVER SAY DIE! NEW CLAIMS RAISE DOUBTS OF MYRA HINDLEY’S DEATH By Giovanni Di Stefano and Tiina Paivarinta

A primary school nurse was driving through a country lane about six weeks after Myra Hindley was supposedly pronounced dead. It was night time and the nurse's car was suddenly hit in the back by another vehicle

The woman driver who hit her got out of her car and came to talk to the nurse. The nurse looked carefully, recognised the woman as Myra Hindley and said: "Oh my God you're Myra Hindley."
The woman burst into tears and replied "you can't say that, you can't say that" and drove off hurriedly.
The nurse however, noted the registration number of the car and upon returning home called the police. She recounted what had happened, telling them that it was "Myra Hindley" at the wheel of the other car.
The police visited the nurse the following day but rather than assist her with noting an accident, they scared and intimidated her. They asked her to withdraw the accident claim and report, and suggested instead that the incident had "never happened"


http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.info/content/sitenewsreadmore/infobox/news/template/default/active_id/814


The artical is too long to post, but it does leave you asking the question  "Did she realy die"?



Call me a conspiracy nut if you like, but from the get go I had a feeling that she was being released and the only way the public would ever accept that was if she 'died'

Well I must be a conspiracy nut too, the primary school nurse's comments and that she was asked to say the incident never happened, was enough for me to believe that Hindley had been released, plus all the incidents of covering  her supposed death up convinced me even more.

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Post by Ayniia on 19.06.13 13:03

@jd wrote:Moors murderer Ian Brady

Wednesday, June 12, 2013

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/jimmy-savile-child-murderers-top-people.html


Child murderers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley, who had friends in high places.

The child murderers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley had powerful friends.

Ian Brady was befriended by Sir Jimmy Savile.

Myra Hindley was befriended by Lord David Astor, a former editor of the Observer, and by Lord Longford, a former cabinet minister who took a great interest in pornography.

Astor and Longford plotted to get Hindley released from prison.

Myra Hindley's relationship with Lord Longford

Some people believe that Hindley has secretly been released from prison, although the official story is that she is dead.


In the 1970s, Lord Longford, friend of Hindley, compiled a self-funded report into pornography.

Lord Longford invited Sir Jimmy Savile, the Bishop of Leicester and Cliff Richard to join him on a wide-ranging tour of sex industry establishments, including strip clubs in Copenhagen.

Cliff Richard, Jimmy Savile, Lord Longford, Myra Hindley...

Moors Murderer Myra Hindley, 60, reportedly died in a hospital in 2002.

No family members attended her 'hasty' cremation service.

At the inquest there were no protesters, friends or relatives.

Her medical records were filed under a false name: Christine Charlton.

Her death certificate has never been published



According to Myra Hindley's diary, she and Ian Brady were regular visitors to the New Elizabethan Ballroom, in Manchester.

They attended at least one of the many sessions hosted by the resident DJ, Jimmy Savile.

"On Boxing Day, 1964, Brady and Hindley made an audio recording as they bound, gagged and photographed Lesley Ann Downey before they killed her."

Ian Brady became Jimmy Savile's friend.

Savile was also acquainted with Ronnie Kray and Peter Sutcliffe.



Peter Sutcliffe committing one of 'his' murders just opposite Jimmy Savile's penthouse in Leeds, and another in Savile Park in Halifax.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229786/Jimmy-Savile-Yorkshire-Ripper-Cast-DJs-teeth-check-bites-left-Peter-Sutcliffes-victims.html

Longford is related to Harriet Harman of NCCL - Liberty - she is his niece.


Harriet Harman QC MP. Multi millionaire multiculturalist Labour Party Deputy Leader. When Legal Officer at the National Council for Civil Liberties ( later Liberty) 1978 to 1982 she constantly lobbied the Government to legalise Child pornography , paedophilia and incest , she has repeatedly denied this but recently released Government documents have her signature on them. A niece of Lord Longford she is very close to Hodge and Hewitt. Married to Jack Dromey MP.
http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=10563

Interesting the handshake... and the location of Saville flat...
As many of you pointed out, if he wanted to die he would find a way of doing it!
@aquila wrote:I wish Brady would be found sane. I wish him to be told he can have his right to die only on the basis of disclosing where Keith is buried. When Keith's body is found and his family are out of their agony I wish Brady would then be told that he doesn't have the right to end his own life. I wish someone would then tell Brady 'now you are sane you'll understand that sometimes life ain't fair, enjoy your time and your many meals to come sir'.

I know these wishes break the laws that protect Brady....but it's nice to wish.
This is what they should do but unfortunately the laws don't allow that!
Edited to add: the laws that protect the criminals, "it would be laughable if it wasn't so serious ".

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 20.06.13 10:58

I hope the b*stard lives to 110 with his tube stuffed up his nose.
As always with Brady, a control thing. Truly sick.
Life should mean life (natural end of!)
Poor Winnie Johnson got to the end of hers without ever being able to bury her son thanks to Brady's control issues. He knew to within cm's where every body was buried and could've relieved her suffering years ago.
Keith Bennett was just the only 'bargaoning chip' he felt he had left.

PURE EVIL...

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Post by aquila on 20.06.13 11:11

@rainbow-fairy wrote:I hope the b*stard lives to 110 with his tube stuffed up his nose.
As always with Brady, a control thing. Truly sick.
Life should mean life (natural end of!)
Poor Winnie Johnson got to the end of hers without ever being able to bury her son thanks to Brady's control issues. He knew to within cm's where every body was buried and could've relieved her suffering years ago.  
Keith Bennett was just the only 'bargaoning chip' he felt he had left.

PURE EVIL...

I hope so too. I'd happily feed him through a tube up his nose with little words of encouragement...

'Now let's see what's on the menu today'
'Would you like the beef, the lamb or the vegetarian option today? you can almost smell this fluid if you try'
'Now eat up, we don't want you to get sick do we'
'This drip-food is wonderful, it contains everything to keep a body strong, it's cholesterol free to keep that heart beating'


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Post by rainbow-fairy on 20.06.13 20:22

@aquila wrote:
@rainbow-fairy wrote:I hope the b*stard lives to 110 with his tube stuffed up his nose.
As always with Brady, a control thing. Truly sick.
Life should mean life (natural end of!)
Poor Winnie Johnson got to the end of hers without ever being able to bury her son thanks to Brady's control issues. He knew to within cm's where every body was buried and could've relieved her suffering years ago.  
Keith Bennett was just the only 'bargaoning chip' he felt he had left.

PURE EVIL...

I hope so too. I'd happily feed him through a tube up his nose with little words of encouragement...

'Now let's see what's on the menu today'
'Would you like the beef, the lamb or the vegetarian option today? you can almost smell this fluid if you try'
'Now eat up, we don't want you to get sick do we'
'This drip-food is wonderful, it contains everything to keep a body strong, it's cholesterol free to keep that heart beating'

Right there with you aquila! yes

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Moors Murderer Ian Brady Loses Prison Bid
The serial child-killer must stay at a the psychiatric hospital where he has been living for 28 years, a tribunal rules

Moors Murderer Ian Brady is to remain a patient at a maximum security hospital after losing his £250,000 legal bid to be transferred to a jail.
The decision following a week-long public hearing means the infamous killer will stay in Ashworth Hospital on Merseyside for the forseeable future on the grounds that he is mentally insane.
Victims' families have criticised giving Brady, 75, the opportunity to "grandstand" at the mental health tribunal, while others described the hearing as a "circus" and a "complete waste of taxpayers' money".
The tribunal was the first time Brady has been seen in public since the 1980s, when he was taken back to Saddleworth Moor in the search for the bodies of two of his victims, and the first time he had spoken in public since being jailed for life at Chester Assizes in 

 
The decision on Brady's appeal was given by the three-man panel headed by Judge Robert Atherton, who heard the tribunal at Ashworth.
"The tribunal has concluded that Mr Ian Stewart Brady continues to suffer from a mental disorder which is of a nature and degree which makes it appropriate for him to continue to receive medical treatment and that it is necessary for his health and safety and for the protection of other persons that he should receive such treatment in hospital and that appropriate medical treatment is available for him," he said.
Brady, whose legal costs will be paid by the taxpayer as he gets legal aid, has the right to challenge the decision, which would require a further hearing at an Upper Tribunal

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Re: Moors murderer Ian Brady: Right to die

Post by sallypelt on 28.06.13 22:32


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Re: Moors murderer Ian Brady: Right to die

Post by rainbow-fairy on 29.06.13 0:32

@sallypelt wrote:
I believe this.
I have a couple of books on the case, and the policeman who worked tirelessly to find Keith was utterly convinced that there would be more. (His name escapes me atm, sorry, will look up)

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Post by listener on 29.06.13 13:08

A difficult topic - but should taxpayers really be expected to contribute a small fortune to forcefully keep a person alive?
What for?
Retribution? Punishment?
A VERY difficult moral (and religious) dilemma here, I think thinking

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