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Post by marconi on 26.06.13 1:15

If you want something to be well done,  do it yourself and don't leave it to others.
The body was a too serious matter for Gerry to let it be carried by another person.
He had to be sure that its concealing would be perfect.
He was the one who took it away imo.

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Post by bristow on 26.06.13 22:09

I am more than cautiously optimistic with this latest news but it makes me nervous.
I should imagine we will know more by the weekend though.

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Post by Newintown on 26.06.13 22:29

@marconi wrote:If you want something to be well done,  do it yourself and don't leave it to others.
The body was a too serious matter for Gerry to let it be carried by another person.
He had to be sure that its concealing would be perfect.
He was the one who took it away imo.

Gerry McCann could have met someone within the town he had already contacted to take the "bundle" from him, giving him time to get back to the Tapas Bar before the alarm was raised, hence all the mobile phone messages/texts being deleted, IMHO.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by Who?What?Where? on 27.06.13 1:52

I'm still trying to get my head up to speed on all of this. I know that some of you are well ahead of me.

This may seem like an obscure question, but does anyone else on here think that "A golfing holiday in Portugal" could be a euphemism for something with a much darker meaning. A seemingly innocent pastime, (which it is for most people), but an ideal cover, for those with very sinister intention's?

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Post by tigger on 27.06.13 5:50

@marconi wrote:If you want something to be well done,  do it yourself and don't leave it to others.
The body was a too serious matter for Gerry to let it be carried by another person.
He had to be sure that its concealing would be perfect.
He was the one who took it away imo.

Marconi, on Gerry's general performance I'd say that if a thing needed to be done 'perfectly' I'd strongly advise NOT to have it done by Gerry.

Imo he has more than a touch of Delboy and when things go wrong as they did and do all the time, he blusters and lies.

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Post by margaret on 27.06.13 10:01

@tigger wrote:Marconi, on Gerry's general performance I'd say that if a thing needed to be done 'perfectly' I'd strongly advise NOT to have it done by Gerry.

Imo he has more than a touch of Delboy and when things go wrong as they did and do all the time, he blusters and lies.
He is delboy isn't he?  He thinks he's so much more important and clever but he's just a two bit chancer from a leics housing estate.

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Post by sheila.edwards on 27.06.13 10:14

he may be desperate to restart his blogs on facebook with the fund site, having deleted loads off net and all the time they spend checking etc.hope we don't get more of them trolls now this all going on ! ? bored of hacked off now. Glad were not on Facebook if going to be a mcbook now.or a Gerry book?????? next it could be the kate and Gerry show live on facebook.!

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Post by russiandoll on 27.06.13 13:56

quote from another member  "  I'm still trying to get my head up to speed on all of this. I know that some of you are well ahead of me."

 me too ! I have just got a new laptop after my 5 yr old one had to be binned......so am catching up on a lot I have missed. I get my news online these days so have not read  any news re the CPS dramatic development, also heard nothing on t v. news.
 From my knowledge of the CPS they are not investigators in any way, they weigh up the likelihood of successful prosecution and the fact they are now involved suggests to me that for certain it is the UK which is at the centre of this crime, maybe one or more Brits and maybe a person/ persons with dual nationality.
 I am not very knowledgeable on their way of operating, but my instinct tells me that if the police believed for a moment that Maddie was still alive, the CPS issue would have remained under wraps. I sadly believe that this latest very significant development means that the little one is considered deceased by UK authorities.

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Post by marconi on 27.06.13 14:20

Why is it taking so long for the Yard to take over the investigation if they have all of the files in Belgrave?
And why is it taking so long for Theresa May to give a statement that they will take it or took it already?
The prosecutor lawyer went to Portugal in May, we are longer than two moths further.
According to myself the Yard took the probe over very long  ago.
If a prosecutor lawyer is involved in it, it is because the case became an English issue.
And it seems to be the last step before making people suspects.

I'm happy the expenses are for the UK.

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Post by marconi on 27.06.13 14:30

It is possible that the McCanns used Murat to spy for them because they are control freaks and they had to control what was going on.

When he became arguido, the Tapas had no choice than to point to him as being the perpetrator.

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Post by lj on 27.06.13 14:51

@margaret wrote:
@tigger wrote:Marconi, on Gerry's general performance I'd say that if a thing needed to be done 'perfectly' I'd strongly advise NOT to have it done by Gerry.

Imo he has more than a touch of Delboy and when things go wrong as they did and do all the time, he blusters and lies.
He is delboy isn't he?  He thinks he's so much more important and clever but he's just a two bit chancer from a leics housing estate.

This is one of the things I like about the internet. You get a so much "richer" vocabulary (and no I don't mean OMFG etc). I used to think my english is not that bad, but everyday I find at least one word I never heard before. My kids always tease me for having the dictionary constant loaded. So yesterday I learned "publican" (no it's not one that lost the re) and joiner, but what is delboy?? Please help me out.

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Post by lj on 27.06.13 14:54

@sheila.edwards wrote:he may be desperate to restart his blogs on facebook with the fund site, having deleted loads off net and all the time they spend checking etc.hope we don't get more of them trolls now this all going on ! ? bored of hacked off now. Glad were not on Facebook if going to be a mcbook now.or a Gerry book?????? next it could be the kate and Gerry show live on facebook.!


Oh please, a Gerry book? That will bring back all the nightmares about their sexlife. censored

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Post by PeterMac on 27.06.13 15:05

@lj wrote:, but what is delboy?? Please help me out.
A Character from Only Fools and Horses.
This is from Wiki
Del Boy is a lively, happy-go-lucky, confident character. While not always successful, his general confidence and occasional forcefulness often persuade people to believe in him. From the sixth series on, he becomes a stereotypical yuppie of the late 1980s, pretending to be much more wealthy than he really is, as he tries to associate with the upper classes despite being obviously working class.

He is a habitual liar, particularly to women, customers, policemen and even his family and doctors. He lies even when it is against his best interests, such as when he claims to be a health freak while suffering from stomach pains, leading to his spending several days under observation in hospital rather than receiving an immediate diagnosis.

Del reckons he can speak some French, {for which read ENGLISH ! }  though nearly all the time none of his phrases make any sense in the context he uses them in (e.g. Saying "Au revoir" to say "hello" and "bonjour" to say goodbye). He also thinks he has knowledge in subjects like history, art and other academic subjects (his lack of knowledge in history is shown well in "To Hull and Back" in which he calls Albert "the finest little sailor this country has produced since Nelson lost the Armada".)   [Purporting theories,  constant misuse of "for Kate and I . . ." spring to mind]

Del Boy is not always keen to express his love for his family and others,  . . 


couldn't have written that better myself !

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Post by Woofer on 27.06.13 15:18

@lj wrote:
@margaret wrote:
@tigger wrote:Marconi, on Gerry's general performance I'd say that if a thing needed to be done 'perfectly' I'd strongly advise NOT to have it done by Gerry.

Imo he has more than a touch of Delboy and when things go wrong as they did and do all the time, he blusters and lies.
He is delboy isn't he?  He thinks he's so much more important and clever but he's just a two bit chancer from a leics housing estate.

This is one of the things I like about the internet. You get a so much "richer" vocabulary (and no I don't mean OMFG etc). I used to think my english is not that bad, but everyday I find at least one word I never heard before. My kids always tease me for having the dictionary constant loaded. So yesterday I learned "publican" (no it's not one that lost the re) and joiner, but what is delboy?? Please help me out.


Hi lj - Del boy is Del Boy Trotter - from the TV comedy "Only Fools and Horses".  He was a con man who lived in a tower block called Nelson Mandela House in Peckham with his simple nephew and grandad.  He actually had a soft heart but was always doing dodgy deals. The series was hilarious as he was always trying to big himself up and impress people but always got in a mess.  See a pic by googling Del Boy Trotter, then images.

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Post by lj on 27.06.13 15:37

Thanks you all! I clearly missed something in my upbringing. Off to Hulu etc to see if there are some episodes left.

You see this forum is not about hate, it's all educational!!

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Post by PeterMac on 27.06.13 16:18

@lj wrote:You see this forum is not about hate . . .
Indeed not.  It is about concern for the fate of a little girl who was cruelly treated by the two people on whom she should have been able to rely.  
And that applies whatever happened to her.

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Post by russiandoll on 27.06.13 16:30

Didn't Kate in her book compare herself to a lioness, referring to her protective instincts?
 The following is posted online by another mother.

  Lioness Behaviour
Last night I woke suddenly at 2am, surfacing swiftly from a War Games-esque dream that involved a teenage boy, a russian submarine and a lot of special effects, to the sound of Elliot coughing.
Before I even knew where I was I had thrown myself out of bed and to the side of his cot, flung the mosquito net open and was ready to grab him to save his life, which judging by the superhero speed of my reaction and the throbbing pulse in my ears was what was at stake. 
Now, it turned out it was really just a cough and it didn't even wake him, but it COULD have been something blocking his throat and I felt proud in the knowledge that I would have come to his rescue. Well, until half an hour later when I was still awake, listening to his breathing with a still-racing pulse and an all-too a frequent subject matter going round in my mind: 'Bad Things that can happen to a baby'.


I have long been a critic of the notion that women have some sort of built-in baby monitor which ensures their focused attention to the infant's every need, and that fathers somehow are excused from night-time care, sleeping through every 'event' such as the above. But I am beginning to notice a behaviour in myself that is like a lioness in the wild, ensuring that her cubs will come to no harm so long as she is nearby. Maybe there's something in it after all...

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Post by lj on 27.06.13 16:32

So true, Pm.

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Post by PeterMac on 27.06.13 17:11

@russiandoll wrote:Didn't Kate in her book compare herself to a lioness, referring to her protective instincts?

There are two references.
Interestingly the first is not about herself feeling like that, but two other women !
My immediate worry was Amelie and Sean. If this farce continued in the same vein, and we ended up being formally accused of doing something to Madeleine, people were going to start calling for the twins to be taken away from us. I could feel the panic building up inside me. Between sobs I blurted out my fears to Trisha and Eileen.
It’s hard to describe their response, but if you picture two lionesses whose young are under threat for their lives it will give you the general idea. Remembering it now actually brings a little smile to my face. Hell hath no fury like two women from Glasgow.

The second is later and Kate is back on form talking about herself. It is about the "alleged" plea bargain
Trisha and Eileen, disturbed by the noise, appeared from their room. Keeping a lid on my anger for long enough to enable me to communicate clearly, I brought them up to speed. Within seconds there were three raging lionesses pacing the villa.
Recognizing the need to switch into crisis-management mode, we calmed each other down. Gerry and I made it very clear to Trisha and Eileen that if we didn’t return from the police station the next day, they should take the children out of the country as soon as possible.
Nothing in the book about protecting Madeleine though. Which is understandable, all things considered.

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Post by Guest on 27.06.13 21:11

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Nothing in the book about protecting Madeleine though.   Which is understandable, all things considered.
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Post by marconi on 27.06.13 22:04

Correction: the prosecutor lawyer went to Portugal on April(17 18) and not in May, like I wrote above.

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Post by aiyoyo on 28.06.13 5:27

Don't know where to post this link,so here's as good as any.
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/2013/06/04/44271/madeleine+press+spokeswoman+urges+industry+to+take+paedophile+threat+more+seriously.html

It would appear Justine Mcguiness (sp) was taken in hook line and sinker.

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Post by PeterMac on 28.06.13 9:44

@aiyoyo wrote:
It would appear Justine Mcguiness (sp) was taken in hook line and sinker.
I think yo are right, but then look at this
Asked what she now believes happened to Madeleine, McGuiness said it was highly unlikely she was kidnapped to order as some theories suggested or just walked out of the apartment herself.
Why ? On what basis does she come to that conclusion ?. Why does she blow the "Living like a princess" story out of the water ?
Their friends, family, and spokesthings hem them in every time they speak.
The combination of McGuinness, Edgar. Philomena and Mitchell have just about denied them any wriggle room whatsoever.

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Post by aiyoyo on 28.06.13 9:51

@PeterMac wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
It would appear Justine Mcguiness (sp) was taken in hook line and sinker.
I think yo are right, but then look at this
Asked what she now believes happened to Madeleine, McGuiness said it was highly unlikely she was kidnapped to order as some theories suggested or just walked out of the apartment herself.
Why ? On what basis does she come to that conclusion ?. Why does she blow the "Living like a princess" story out of the water ?
Their friends, family, and spokesthings hem them in every time they speak.
The combination of McGuinness, Edgar. Philomena and Mitchell have just about denied them any wriggle room whatsoever.

She believes Maddie was taken by a paedo****.

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