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Post by marconi on 25.06.13 14:49

Is it true that Theresa May will soon make a statement about the case, did some of you read about it?
Everything takes so long.  According to myself the whole investigation is ready, why this delay?
Yesterday she spoke at the Parliament about Stephen Lawrence and about somebody else I think, but no Maddie.
I believe that at  least Tapas 7 have been interrogated by the Met,  the Met must have heard the whole truth and confessions must be enough to open the case in Britain.
I think that somebody of the Tapas must know where the body is.


Any news of McCannfiles and of Joana Morais?    They are always a good read.

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Post by sheila.edwards on 25.06.13 14:57

now that is strange, murat was only half a mile away from jane tanners in week before holiday ? but isent it all. Don't think it will be long till known, what went on hopefully now. with all the new checks possible and rechecks of forensics calls funds etc. Its a small world these days.spin

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Post by AndyB on 25.06.13 14:57

@Cristobell wrote:Then of course we have Dave Edgar saying Jane may have seen a woman
I think he could be right. I'm wondering if the person that Jane Tanner originally described was actually Jane Tanner herself in case anyone had seen her. They could've confirmed her "sighting" of a "man" thereby deflecting attention from herself. The description is certainly vague enough and there's that clip of her being interviewed where she clearly says "I carried her" before hesitating as she realised the mistake.

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Post by tigger on 25.06.13 15:03

(I put this in the wrong topic, reposted here and deleted in Fund topic). 

Pottingshedder is asking questions I didn't know existed. I've highlighted them. 


Monday, 24 June 2013

Madeleine McCann - A New Investigation?

So London's top prosecutor and her deputy visited Portugal mid April to consult with Portuguese officials about Madeleine's disappearance.  And subsequently, Theresa May has announced that Scotland Yard will be opening their own investigation.  Can we assume therefore that this has been rubberstamped by the Portuguese if Ms May has been able make this announcement?  Which is all very interesting, because British police can only investigate British suspects and the CPS can only prosecute British accused, those who are alive and kicking.  So, can we technically rule out the swarthy European masses and free range Portuguese eggs and assume that the culprit/s are British?  And will Scotland Yard, indeed ask their own dogs?
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The British authorities aided the Portuguese police and their investigation from very early on.  Google Lee Rainbow and Martin Grimes for a very interesting read.  However, if Scotland Yard do open a full investigation, will they also investigate some of their own officers?  In particular, I refer to the comments made by Mrs McCann herself in her book Madeleine...

Remember Bob Small?  He was the McCanns liaison to the British police and the van-man who set up the framing of an innocent Robert Murat, aided by (er err I carried her this way) Jane Tanner... well according to Mrs McCann on page 226, Bob Small gave Mr McCann indications of the FSS results before he was interviewed by the Portuguese police. Astonishing.  Mr McCann rang Ken Jones, head of ACPO the day after. Wonder why.  Imagine that - persons of interest having direct lines to top British brass and being spoon fed sensititve information which allowed them to keep one step ahead of the Portuguese.  Having indications of the FSS results prior to their arguido interviews gave the McCanns the ability to complete their offensive, and to their success they fled the country within days, aided and abetted by the British government.  One must assume that Goncalo Amaral was absolutely correct in his accusations of political manipulation and gross interference from the British in this criminal investigation.

And what about those officers who reportedly delivered boxes of files to the McCanns on their return to Rothley after fleeing Portugal?  Or those who informed them that their phones were being tapped?  Who supplied Gerry McCann with the top secret CEOP manuals?  Who made the visit to Portugal in an attempt to suppress certain information being released in the PJ files?  And who on earth thought it was a good idea to withhold the Gaspar statements?  This alone would have turned the investigation on its head.

This all needs looking into.  Interesting times ahead.

Another interesting thing has happened.  For some time now, this blog has been spammed by pro comments, without fail, every single day. Sometimes there are up to 50 comments a day left.  This is the reason the comments are now moderated - it's really not a problem going in daily and deleting the spam, some of it is very amusing.  However, since the CPS news broke - the spam just stopped overnight.  Saturday, Sunday and now Monday... 0 spam.  Zilch. Nada.  Wonder why.


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Post by Cristobell on 25.06.13 15:12

@AndyB wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:Then of course we have Dave Edgar saying Jane may have seen a woman
I think he could be right. I'm wondering if the person that Jane Tanner originally described was actually Jane Tanner herself in case anyone had seen her. They could've confirmed her "sighting" of a "man" thereby deflecting attention from herself. The description is certainly vague enough and there's that clip of her being interviewed where she clearly says "I carried her" before hesitating as she realised the mistake.
I think it was pure fabrication Andy, she was trying to picture an abductor in her imagination.  The result was the classic Frankenstein's monster carrying a child away. It was appropriate for an old black and white movie, but the reality of it is ridiculous. No-one carries a child that way, especially not an abductor who would be concerned with covering her face and mouth. Its also very unlikely that he would have walked across the open road in full view of Jane, Gerry and Jez.  

I agree, she did say 'I carried her' in that video, but it was not coming from the 'recall' side of her brain, it was coming from the imagination.

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Post by sheila.edwards on 25.06.13 15:19

Well if, it was jane " who carried her " that's when she saw GM and jess W. No wonder they dident see her if at top of rd and she saw them ! but even in my armchair sluthing mode I cant see that being case in reality its to horrendous.

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Post by AndyB on 25.06.13 15:23

I agree that it was a fabrication. I also agree that you wouldn't carry a child like that but what if she wasn't carrying a child but a body, something that she found repellant? I think that's much more consistent with trying to hold whatever it was away from her body. It's just that I find it a little bit reminiscent of how Id carry one of our (small) dogs if they've rolled in horse/cow/dog muck

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Post by Guest on 25.06.13 15:34

@AndyB wrote: [...] It's just that I find it a little bit reminiscent of how Id carry one of our (small) dogs if they've rolled in horse/cow/dog muck
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Without wanting to be graphic: a dead body tends to lose / leak bodily fluids ...

BTW as it is IMO absolutely impossible for JT to have seen an abductor, whilst passing GM & JW, and in view of her little slip-up "I" in the Panorama interview, I still do tend to think that she's describing something she's seen or done at another moment in time.

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Post by Ayniia on 25.06.13 15:45

@jd wrote:
@margaret wrote:
Thanks JD, because l'm refereshing my memory about her trying to frame Murat.  We know Murat translated for the early statements from the tapas goup so l wonder when Tanner actually first met Murat.

Murat was hanging around offering help to the group so l tend to think they'd met before May 13th when she identified him.

http://www.madeleinefoundation.org.uk/muratpt2.html

'On Sunday 13 May, Jane Tanner positively identified Robert Murat as the man she had seen on the night of 3 May.'


Part G on Tonys work may have the answer but the site is a bit slow at the moment.

I would bet that murat and tanner already knew each other before the holiday. The week previous, when murat was less than half a mile away from tanners house in Exeter

And there's the hairs in Burgau possibly from Jane and Murat and the fact that's possible they're even family related because their DNA.

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Post by Guest on 25.06.13 16:03

@Ayniia wrote:
And there's the hairs in Burgau possibly from Jane and Murat and the fact that's possible they're even family related because their DNA.
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IIRC no nuclear DNA can be extracted from hair. The DNA that was found is mitochondrial DNA [mtDNA], which means that they have a female ancestor in common, but that can be many generation back and far apart. I just found some nice examples of that:

" American outlaw Jesse James's remains were identified using a comparison between mtDNA extracted from his remains and the mtDNA of the son of the female-line great-granddaughter of his sister. Similarly, the remains of Alexandra Feodorovna (Alix of Hesse), last Empress of Russia, and her children were identified by comparison of their mitochondrial DNA with that of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, whose maternal grandmother was Alexandra’s sister Victoria of Hesse.  Similarly to identify Emperor Nicholas II remains his mitochondrial DNA was compared with that of James Carnegie, 3rd Duke of Fife, whose maternal great-grandmother Alexandra of Denmark (Queen Alexandra) was sister of Nicholas II mother Dagmar of Denmark (Empress Maria Feodorovna)."

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Post by lj on 25.06.13 16:27

@plebgate wrote:The more I think about things the more I think that Mr. & Mrs. (at least) have been questioned, possibly pinky as well.  Absolutely nothing coming from their camp about anything.   Granny rolled out a couple weeks back reportedly saying something like they hadn't told her that SY were reporting back to them.   

The only reason I can think that Mrs. would not tell her mother that SY were in contact with them is because they have been told not to discuss anything with anyone.

It has been reported in the papers for a while that SY have been in contact, but did the "contact" change to questioning? Therefore obliged to keep their mouths shut even to closest family?

Just my opinion, but the silence sure is deafening from all parties.

Or because the contacts with SY are of such a nature that Kate rather not talks about it. Remember her reaction on being made arguido "what will my parents think of this?"

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 25.06.13 17:20

@zodiac wrote:I remember reading these tweets a few months ago:

dh [email=‏@dhnewstweet]‏@dhnewstweet[/email]  26 Mar 
Clarence Mitchell seen walking into Scotland Yard a few minutes ago #McCann

dh [email=‏@dhnewstweet]‏@dhnewstweet[/email]  26 Mar 
@veniviedivici I nearly dropped my Starbucks when I saw him
 
Clarence Mitchell [email=‏@mitch_1uk]‏@mitch_1uk[/email]  26 Mar 
@dhnewstweet Big difference between walking past SY and going into it Simply untrue I was in SY. Sorry to disappoint the conspiracy loons

dh [email=‏@dhnewstweet]‏@dhnewstweet[/email]  26 Mar 
@mitch_1uk Apologies for that. I stand corrected. Those loons normally spot a fake sighting a mile off.

pleb-nobby-Lobby [email=‏@veniviedivici]‏@veniviedivici[/email]  26 Mar 
@dhnewstweet #snigger at Fake sighting ref. Do you think he got it ? @mitch_1uk


At the time, I wondered why he chose to reply to the tweet and use the label 'the conspiracy loons' when he could have just ignored the tweet. Especially as MPS are supposedly in regular contact with his clients and they are kept fully updated on the progress of their work. Therefore it perhaps wouldn't have been odd for him to be seen going into or walking past SY. However, in my opinion, I now find it odd that he chose to reply and reply in the manner he did. Especially as, I now know, 22 days later this meeting took place:

Top prosecutor looks at new leads in Madeleine McCann hunt

A CPS spokeswoman said: “Prosecutors from CPS London and ­investigators from the Metropolitan Police Service visited their Portuguese counterparts on April 17-18 to discuss possible next steps in ­relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. We continue to work with the police on this case.”

Full article: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/409431/Top-prosecutor-looks-at-new-leads-in-Madeleine-McCann-hunt
You are right zodiac! I remember those tweets - they were a couple of days before my final attempt with Tw*tter, suspended AGAIN! I have had SIX accounts on there, all suspended. NEVER got a reply from Twitter what I'd 'done wrong' - got too near the truth at times maybe???
I was following/being followed by some people I KNOW are on here, and I suspect some I don't know... I didn't ONLY tweet on #mccann, I didn't follow aggressively, I tweeted my own updates as well as RT's - nope, no idea what I did wrong. Have given up now!

It is curious though - I've always been taught there is no such thing as coincidence!
Wonder what Clarrie may have said???

BTW - hilarious he didn't get the 'fake sighting' dig laughat

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Post by AndyB on 25.06.13 17:38

Châtelaine wrote:
@AndyB wrote: [...] It's just that I find it a little bit reminiscent of how Id carry one of our (small) dogs if they've rolled in horse/cow/dog muck
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Without wanting to be graphic: a dead body tends to lose / leak bodily fluids ...
Indeed. Thats why it was wrapped up in a bundle of blankets?

Châtelaine wrote:BTW as it is IMO absolutely impossible for JT to have seen an abductor, whilst passing GM & JW, and in view of her little slip-up "I" in the Panorama interview, I still do tend to think that she's describing something she's seen or done at another moment in time.
Quite possibly but consider this potential scenario (which I offer as pure idle speculation rather than a serious theory):
1) Maddie is dead and, for reasons best known to themselves, the McCanns are trying to cover it up
2) Someone has arranged (possibly Robert Murat) for someone with a boat to bury the body at sea
3) Jerry is going to take the body to the boat but gets held up talking to Jez (who, at least at this stage, is in the dark about the conspiracy)
4) There is panic in the apartment that Jerry is going to be late so Jane agrees to take the body (maybe because she knows Murat?)
5) As she carries the body she notices Jerry & Jez talking
6) Fearful that Jez has seen her, she invents the story of her going to check the kids and "seeing" a man, whose appearance is similar to Jane, walking with a bundle where Jane has just walked.
7) When its realised that Jez didn't see anything the "sighting" is useless so the description of what she saw changes to something more useful

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Post by Cristobell on 25.06.13 17:53

@AndyB wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:
@AndyB wrote: [...] It's just that I find it a little bit reminiscent of how Id carry one of our (small) dogs if they've rolled in horse/cow/dog muck
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Without wanting to be graphic: a dead body tends to lose / leak bodily fluids ...
Indeed. Thats why it was wrapped up in a bundle of blankets?

Châtelaine wrote:BTW as it is IMO absolutely impossible for JT to have seen an abductor, whilst passing GM & JW, and in view of her little slip-up "I" in the Panorama interview, I still do tend to think that she's describing something she's seen or done at another moment in time.
Quite possibly but consider this potential scenario (which I offer as pure idle speculation rather than a serious theory):
1) Maddie is dead and, for reasons best known to themselves, the McCanns are trying to cover it up
2) Someone has arranged (possibly Robert Murat) for someone with a boat to bury the body at sea
3) Jerry is going to take the body to the boat but gets held up talking to Jez (who, at least at this stage, is in the dark about the conspiracy)
4) There is panic in the apartment that Jerry is going to be late so Jane agrees to take the body (maybe because she knows Murat?)
5) As she carries the body she notices Jerry & Jez talking
6) Fearful that Jez has seen her, she invents the story of her going to check the kids and "seeing" a man, whose appearance is similar to Jane, walking with a bundle where Jane has just walked.
7) When its realised that Jez didn't see anything the "sighting" is useless so the description of what she saw changes to something more useful
Actually, I think that is quite brilliant!  Just to throw another couple of theories into the pool, what about the cadaver alert to flowerbed? Loathe as I am to say this, I wonder if Maddie, wrapped in a blanket, was thrown into flower bed when Jez appeared? If it was indeed Gerry, the child was not covered by a blanket when seen by Smiths.  I'm puzzled as to his falling down onto his knees when the police arrived, and wonder if this might be a cover for dirt on his trousers. 

I'm not discounting your Jane theory  Andy, and going to go back to the drawing board!

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Post by Praiaaa on 25.06.13 18:13

Andy, agree, most convincing so far  big grin

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Post by plebgate on 25.06.13 18:28

@zodiac wrote:I remember reading these tweets a few months ago:

dh [email=‏@dhnewstweet]‏@dhnewstweet[/email]  26 Mar 
Clarence Mitchell seen walking into Scotland Yard a few minutes ago #McCann

dh [email=‏@dhnewstweet]‏@dhnewstweet[/email]  26 Mar 
@veniviedivici I nearly dropped my Starbucks when I saw him
 
Clarence Mitchell [email=‏@mitch_1uk]‏@mitch_1uk[/email]  26 Mar 
@dhnewstweet Big difference between walking past SY and going into it Simply untrue I was in SY. Sorry to disappoint the conspiracy loons

dh [email=‏@dhnewstweet]‏@dhnewstweet[/email]  26 Mar 
@mitch_1uk Apologies for that. I stand corrected. Those loons normally spot a fake sighting a mile off.

pleb-nobby-Lobby [email=‏@veniviedivici]‏@veniviedivici[/email]  26 Mar 
@dhnewstweet #snigger at Fake sighting ref. Do you think he got it ? @mitch_1uk


At the time, I wondered why he chose to reply to the tweet and use the label 'the conspiracy loons' when he could have just ignored the tweet. Especially as MPS are supposedly in regular contact with his clients and they are kept fully updated on the progress of their work. Therefore it perhaps wouldn't have been odd for him to be seen going into or walking past SY. However, in my opinion, I now find it odd that he chose to reply and reply in the manner he did. Especially as, I now know, 22 days later this meeting took place:

Top prosecutor looks at new leads in Madeleine McCann hunt

A CPS spokeswoman said: “Prosecutors from CPS London and ­investigators from the Metropolitan Police Service visited their Portuguese counterparts on April 17-18 to discuss possible next steps in ­relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. We continue to work with the police on this case.”

Full article: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/409431/Top-prosecutor-looks-at-new-leads-in-Madeleine-McCann-hunt



Had forgotten about that. There is a thread on this forum about it.

Very interesting.

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Post by jd on 25.06.13 18:44

2) Someone has arranged (possibly Robert Murat) for someone with a boat to bury the body at sea

Maybe this is where charlotte pennington & her sighting was meant to come in!

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Post by Woofer on 25.06.13 19:26

Wasn`t JT seen by Jez anyway - when he first set out on his walk with the buggy - describing her as a woman dressed in purple?

And regarding bodies leaking - that`s easily resolved, plus there were plenty of nappies about.

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Post by roy rovers on 25.06.13 19:35

@lj wrote:
@plebgate wrote:The more I think about things the more I think that Mr. & Mrs. (at least) have been questioned, possibly pinky as well.  Absolutely nothing coming from their camp about anything.   Granny rolled out a couple weeks back reportedly saying something like they hadn't told her that SY were reporting back to them.   

The only reason I can think that Mrs. would not tell her mother that SY were in contact with them is because they have been told not to discuss anything with anyone.

It has been reported in the papers for a while that SY have been in contact, but did the "contact" change to questioning? Therefore obliged to keep their mouths shut even to closest family?

Just my opinion, but the silence sure is deafening from all parties.

Or because the contacts with SY are of such a nature that Kate rather not talks about it. Remember her reaction on being made arguido "what will my parents think of this?"

Perhaps only Clarrie's been in for a little chat and now knows which way the wind is blowing.

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Post by AndyB on 25.06.13 20:32

@Woofer wrote:Wasn`t JT seen by Jez anyway - when he first set out on his walk with the buggy - describing her as a woman dressed in purple?
Yes but that was earlier:
Jez wrote:"I left my apartment pushing my son's pram so that he could sleep. I did not have a particular direction to follow nor did I have a specific time to do this. I left the apartment and turned right. I walked via the lower street, looked to the building block where the McCann apartment was situated and saw a woman dressed in purple clothing. I referred to this woman in relation to the questions asked by Jane Tanner."
{...}
"Now I know her name, description of the clothes and photos which I have seen in the press. At that time I knew of her as a member of the group but did not know her name. I do not remember having seen her when I spoke with Gerry, but I believe I saw her when I first ventured out. She was stopped on the street in front of one of the group's apartments when I passed her down towards the exit to my apartment. I do not know if it was her apartment or not. I remember that she was wearing the colour purple."

The strange thing is that this is the photo that made me think that Jane Tanner might be bundle man:


Perhaps she just likes purple

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Post by tasprin on 25.06.13 22:11

Apparently this is a comment on the Guardian website in response to it's article "Scotland Yard spied on critics of police corruption".
It pretty well sums up what many people feel about our national institutions at the moment. Let's hope Operation Grange doesn't go the same way.


The Guardian / Dale Martin

Comment by Dale Martin

Scotland Yard deployed undercover officers in political groups that sought to uncover corruption in the Metropolitan police and campaigned for justice for people who had died in custody, the Guardian can reveal.

The system has become nothing more than a complete web of deceit and corruption, rather than clean up their act internally, those in charge would prefer to silence those who seek to show the true inner workings of an institution that is out of control. By doing so they encourage corruption and perpetuate wrong-doing because within an environment where the wrong-doers are constantly having their deeds covered up, the worst of the worst will rule the roost and all those that are decent and good will be powerless to stop any of it.

In a world where they present nothing but illusion, as time goes by the hidden reality will just continue to get worse and worse. The people that lead this country and many who occupy high office and steer it have all become nothing more than masters of illusion, bullshit merchants who make huge salaries for doing nothing more than suppressing the truth and driving everything they touch into the ground.
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Post by Ollie1 on 25.06.13 22:41

At least two of the tapas 7 wanted to change their statements (CM denied it, so probably true). If the tapas 7 are questioned by SY I think whoever the two were will tell all.

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Post by Guest on 25.06.13 22:49

@AndyB wrote:

The strange thing is that this is the photo that made me think that Jane Tanner might be bundle man:


Perhaps she just likes purple
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And she's been fierce about NOT having jeans with her on the holiday.
Strangely enough DP wasn't wearing jeans either. He had beige pants, when Yvon Warren Martin met him.
But GM was wearing jeans that evening and then there were beige pants on the bed ....

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Post by Woofer on 25.06.13 22:59

@AndyB wrote:
@Woofer wrote:Wasn`t JT seen by Jez anyway - when he first set out on his walk with the buggy - describing her as a woman dressed in purple?
Yes but that was earlier:
Jez wrote:"I left my apartment pushing my son's pram so that he could sleep. I did not have a particular direction to follow nor did I have a specific time to do this. I left the apartment and turned right. I walked via the lower street, looked to the building block where the McCann apartment was situated and saw a woman dressed in purple clothing. I referred to this woman in relation to the questions asked by Jane Tanner."
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"Now I know her name, description of the clothes and photos which I have seen in the press. At that time I knew of her as a member of the group but did not know her name. I do not remember having seen her when I spoke with Gerry, but I believe I saw her when I first ventured out. She was stopped on the street in front of one of the group's apartments when I passed her down towards the exit to my apartment. I do not know if it was her apartment or not. I remember that she was wearing the colour purple."

I realise it was earlier, at about 8.15 - 8.30. Does this discount it being her ?


In JW`s 3rd statement he says " Bridget and I returned to the apartment and minutes afterward, a uniformed police officer, accompanied by a British man serving as interpreter, showed up. Later we came to know him as Robert Murat. I do not remember if he gave me his details but recently when I was cleaning a bag, I came across a card with his name and telephone number. I believe that he may have given this to me so that we could contact him in case we had any additional information to offer. The police officer asked us if we had noticed anything out of the normal and Robert Murat translated. I spoke to him of the "rasta man" and the police officer took some notes on paper. He also noted our names and passport numbers. During the days that followed, as we passed through the police cordon, we noticed Robert Murat on numerous occasions. On Friday, the 4th of May or Saturday, 5th of May 2007, at one of the police cordons, I again saw Robert Murat. He told me that they had investigated the lead of the "rasta man" but that he was a local man and that everything was okay. He thanked me for my collaboration. I never saw Robert prior to his visit to our apartment with the police officer.


JW had seen rasta man in the toilets (taking a long time) soon after he had started his walk.  RM was translating when JW told the PJ about rasta man.  RM gives JW his card so JW could contact him if he thought of any more information (?).  RM later makes a point of telling JW that rasta man was local and everything was ok with him - why? and how did RM know it was ok?




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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the inquiry into Maddie's disappearance from Portuguese plus *UPDATE* CPS lawyers fly to Portugal

Post by Guest on 25.06.13 23:22

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JW had seen rasta man in the toilets (taking a long time) soon after he had started his walk.  RM was translating when JW told the PJ about rasta man.  RM gives JW his card so JW could contact him if he thought of any more information (?).  RM later makes a point of telling JW that rasta man was local and everything was ok with him - why? and how did RM know it was ok?



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