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What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by Daisy on 05.12.13 22:03

I'll shed no tears over his demise.

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Post by russiandoll on 05.12.13 22:08

Daisy , those are words I would expect to read had the death of Ian Brady or someone similar been announced. I am astounded at your sentiments.

   A good man and a towering moral figure of the 20th century, an inspiration.

   Rest in Pease Madiba.

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Post by TMH on 05.12.13 22:36

R.I.P Nelson Mandela sad1

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by Guest on 05.12.13 22:48

I am happy for him, that he's been let free. All the time, I had this awful feeling, that he was denied a peaceful death, for many other reasons than his own.

RIP Mandela. You've been a beacon of hope, an inspiration for values, for the world.

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Post by marconi on 06.12.13 0:31

He must have had a terrible agony and death. He was so ill. I am happy that he is not suffering  anymore. Also happy for his family, watching his last days.  It must have been horrible for them.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by aquila on 06.12.13 6:35

God save South Africa.

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Post by PeterMac on 06.12.13 6:59

@aquila wrote:God save South Africa.
Sadly I think it will take even more than that.

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Post by russiandoll on 06.12.13 8:45

with thanks to Textusa for this interruption to the Maddie writing  :


 Madiba, Thank You
No comments:

This world, our world, has lost today an angel, Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela

The world’s greatest man has left us.

What a privilege it was to have breathed the same air he did.

He showed hatred that the air is filled with love and is to be breathed by all equally.

We bow our heads. In respect. And to hide our tears.

Madiba, thank you so, so much.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by PeterMac on 06.12.13 9:01

Perhaps now is not the time for the full truth to be told.
He is being held up as a Saint.
And for the moment let us let the world continue to believe that.

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Post by Snifferdog on 06.12.13 9:06

http://www.volkstaat.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1340:church-street-bombing-20-may-1983-pictures-of-an-anc-massacre&catid=70:anc-eng&Itemid=127

Mandela was no angel. Follow the link or look up Church street bombing or Quattro camps. 

Just like in many other cases you have to ask yourself - Do You Believe you are told the truth by the MSM or no?

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Post by Angelique on 06.12.13 9:11

Maybe the world is wearing "Rose-tinted" glasses at the moment.

But then what is the Truth about anything these days.

It seems it's only what is acceptable at the time.

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Post by Snifferdog on 06.12.13 9:22

The Truth never changes, and it becomes self evident when we remove the rose tinted spectacles.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by PeterMac on 06.12.13 9:44


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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by Snifferdog on 06.12.13 9:56

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by Snifferdog on 06.12.13 9:57

An excellent link Petermac that tells it like it is.  I live and was born in S Africa, i experience it, and therefore I know.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by PeterMac on 06.12.13 10:18

And let us always remember the link with Peter Hain, apologist for terrorism, who read the eulogy after the hanging of the man who planted the bomb in Johannesburg Railway Station and murdered the Old woman.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by jozi on 06.12.13 10:36

Thank you PerterMac for showing all the hero worshipers that Nelson Mandela was no saint....far from it !!!

The ANC are loosing all credibility here, lots of thieving by our Government Ministers being exposed and especially about our President Jacob Zuma's spending on his new home ? How the Tax payers money is been squandered and used by these so called Ministers as their own personal Bank Account !!! All bad publicity.........and now Madiba has died, what better way to bury bad publicity ???

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by Snifferdog on 06.12.13 10:42

Mandela has never condemned the brutal murder of thousands of farmers in S Africa during the years of ANC governance.  Far from it.  He could be seen at ANC rallies with his comrades chanting with raised, clenched fist, singing and dancing along to "Kill the boer, kill the farmer". 

The ditty and translation follows:

Ayesab’ amagwala (Cowards are scared)
Dubula! dubula! dubula nge s’bhamu (Shoot, shoot, shoot them wit a gun)
Dubul’ ibhunu (Shoot the boer)
Dubula! dubula! dubula nge s’bhamu (Shoot, shoot, shoot them wit a gun)
Mama, ndiyeke ndidubul’ ibhunu (Ma, let me shoot the Boer)
Dubula! dubula! dubula nge s’bhamu (Shoot, shoot, shoot them wit a gun)
Ziyareypa lezinja (These dogs rape)
Dubula! dubula! dubula nge s’bhamu (Shoot, shoot, shoot them wit a gun)


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Post by Daisy on 06.12.13 11:14

@russiandoll wrote:Daisy , those are words I would expect to read had the death of Ian Brady or someone similar been announced. I am astounded at your sentiments.

   A good man and a towering moral figure of the 20th century, an inspiration.

   Rest in Pease Madiba.
I can't apologise for my words Russiandoll, that's how I feel. Out of respect for members that feel differently though I will keep my gob shut as to the reasons for my non participation in the mourning of his passing.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by Guest on 06.12.13 11:17

It's become clear that there are very differing opinions on Nelson Mandela.

I don't think that anyone should be afraid to express them.

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Post by PeterMac on 06.12.13 11:20

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:It's become clear that there are very differing opinions on Nelson Mandela.
I don't think that anyone should be afraid to express them.
Opinions are one thing. Everyone is entitled to their own.
But the FACTS on which they are based must never be hidden.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by aquila on 06.12.13 12:21

I wonder if Nkandla (Fort Zuma) will now have something 'dedicated' to the memory of Mandela?

That would be a gesture to keep the masses at bay - create a little shrine or something - sanctify it in some way if you get my drift. It wouldn't surprise me.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by PeterMac on 06.12.13 13:25

Is there a comment from the family of Ethel Rhys ?

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by Snifferdog on 06.12.13 13:30

I haven't seen any comments from her family Petermac.

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Re: What happens to South Africa when Mandela dies?

Post by aquila on 06.12.13 13:51

The BBC Mandela fest has begun. The funeral will take place on December 15th. Sport is playing heavily and lots of mention of the rainbow nation.

Where's the rainbow nation?

Where is it?

It isn't there because the ANC have screwed South Africa. The ANC have screwed their own people but hey let's concentrate on what a good vision Mandela had. Let's not look at Zuma's crew. Let's not look at the hideous level of violent crime. Let's look at South Africa through rose tinted glasses. There are video clips of white cops beating black people - well done BBC. There are no up to date video clips of black cops beating to death black people. There are no video clips of white farmers who are raped and killed in the most atrocious way on a fairly regular basis.

My heart bleeds for South Africa. It's a country I love and no-one, regardless of colour or race can honestly claim that there is a rainbow nation.

I could weep.

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