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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by MaybeMaybenot on 07.06.14 16:42

Could someone kindly tell me how well Jeremy and Gerry were acquainted on their hols please ? How many times did they meet in that week etc etc...Thanks in advance

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by Guest on 07.06.14 16:49

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id327.html

Details here of Jeremy's encounters with Gerry.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by MaybeMaybenot on 07.06.14 16:57

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:http://www.mccannfiles.com/id327.html

Details here of Jeremy's encounters with Gerry.

TY....Had a quick look. Could I just start with this.

On Monday 30th April 2007 I joined the tennis lessons provided by 'MARK WARNER' the tour operator. There were five (5) [word missing] in the group. There were [word missing] (3) females and a male I knew to be JERRY.

He is white of pale complexion, about 5'10'' to 6' 00'' with a soft GLASWEGAN [sic] accent. He has dark brown hair which was short. He was of athletic build.

As part of the lesson we were paired off together. We engaged in general conversation, mainly about tennis, and football. I got the impression that he was good company, gregarious and chatty. The tennis lesson lasted about an hour. We were signed up for four (4) lessons in total. I can't recall if I saw JERRY again that day.

On Tuesday 1st MAY 2007 we again had a tennis lesson together. After the lesson, this time we had a game of 'doubles' together with two (2) of his [word missing]. At this point I established that Jerry and his family had come away with a group of other families, four (4) in total. The game lasted about one hour and a quarter.


I will come back to this subject a little later...TY

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by MaybeMaybenot on 07.06.14 17:00

Didn't Jeremy fly over with half of Gerrys friends...?
I would like to know why his door was knocked at 1am even though he was no part of the written timelines.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by MaybeMaybenot on 07.06.14 17:24

4th of May Jeremy was describing his Rastaman spotting
7th of May as follows....


1. Could you consider making enquiries to question JEREMY MICHAEL WILKINS (UK Passport No. XXXXXX, DOB XXXXXX). Wilkins was staying at the Ocean Club resort at the time of Madeleine's disappearance and may have vital information. Wilkins lives at the following address, XXXXXX. Wilkins is contactable on the following telephone numbers XXXXXX and XXXXXX. We would like the following points covered if possible;

- Did Wilkins travel with anyone else?

- If he has children and what age are they?

- If he knows the group of people which MADELEINE MCCANN was part of and the apartment block where the guests were staying;

- If he knows MADELEINE'S parents and in particular her father GERALD MCCANN;

- When did he met GERALD MCCANN and in what circumstances;

- Did he play tennis with GERALD McCANN? Did he meet with him apart from playing tennis?

- Did he come to know the routine of GERALD McCANN and his family (his wife and children); If he did, when GERALD was having dinner with his wife and friends where were the children and how were they looked after?

- When was the last time he was with GERALD McCANN, when not playing tennis, before the disappearance of MADELEINE;

- On the day of the disappearance, was JEREMY out with his children in the evening? Did he meet GERALD and at what time? Where was GERALD coming from at this time?

- Exactly where was this meeting with GERALD (please obtain confirmation of the exact location on the attached map)? What was the distance of this meeting from GERALD'S apartment? Can Jeremy provide a sketch map of the location? What did they talk about at this time and for how long?

- When he was talking with GERALD, did any of Gerald's group pass by? If so, who?

- When he was talking with GERALD did he see whether anyone passed by carrying a child in the road near the apartment block?

2. In the spirit of police to police cooperation we request the presence of a British criminal analyst who may be able to assist the enquiry;

Also the collaboration of the UK's "Child Exploitation on Line Protection" may be useful if they wish to send one of their officers to provide assistance to the investigation;

3. We would like further information (by telephonic analysis if thought necessary) relevant to the investigation about the following subjects:

- GERALD McCANN and KATE HEALY contactable on telephone numbers XXXXXX, XXXXXX and XXXXXX.
- MATTHEW DAVID OLDFIELD and RACHAEL MAMPILLY, contactable on telephone numbers XXXXXX, XXXXXX and XXXXXX.
- RUSSEL JAMES O'BRIEN and JANE MICHELLE TANNER, contactable on telephone numbers XXXXXX and XXXXXX.
- DAVID ANTHONY PAYNE, contactable on telephone number XXXXXX, FIONA ELAINE PAYNE, contactable on telephone number XXXXXX and DIANNE WEBSTER, contactable on telephone number XXXXXX.

Namely if there is any indication of motive for anyone in the UK to kidnap the daughter of GERALD McCann.

Regards

P/O Coordinator of Criminal Investigation

(Goncalo Amaral)



Jane Tanner did indeed fcuk up the plan  big grin .....IMO

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by MaybeMaybenot on 07.06.14 17:34

The doorbell woke us up at about 1 am. It was the resort manager who I knew to be John and one of Jerry's friends. I think his name was Matt. He is white, slim, tall with greying hair. From previous conversations I knew him to be a diabetic specialist. We met him on the plane on the way to the destination. Matt said words to the effect that Jerry's daughter had been abducted, and that Jerry said he had seen me and wanted to know if I had seen anything. I said 'You're joking'. I offered help but they said there was nothing that could be done at that stage. We remained in the apartment but could see people around the pool and at the front with torches. I also saw the police arriving. We then went to bed


Night night Jeremy....

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Post by j.rob on 08.06.14 14:00

@MaybeMaybenot wrote:The doorbell woke us up at about 1 am. It was the resort manager who I knew to be John and one of Jerry's friends. I think his name was Matt. He is white, slim, tall with greying hair. From previous conversations I knew him to be a diabetic specialist. We met him on the plane on the way to the destination. Matt said words to the effect that Jerry's daughter had been abducted, and that Jerry said he had seen me and wanted to know if I had seen anything. I said 'You're joking'. I offered help but they said there was nothing that could be done at that stage. We remained in the apartment but could see people around the pool and at the front with torches. I also saw the police arriving. We then went to bed


Night night Jeremy....

His account of that evening is simply not compatible with someone reacting to a genuine emergency. Thank you for pointing out the 'you're joking' comment. I always thought it was a strange thing to say. 

But now I am looking at that comment in a completely different light.

Hmmm.......very interesting. 

I wonder how Jeremy responded to this question?! 

Namely if there is any indication of motive for anyone in the UK to kidnap the daughter of GERALD McCann.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 08.06.14 14:21

We then went to bed




Yeah, right. 


Just as you would do if your were a couple who made a very good  living out of sensational TV drama/journalism/BBC/Crimewatch and a photogenic 4 year old girl is sensationally grabbed from her bed by a mystery abductor.


Leading to one of the most sensational 


I'm sure both Jez and Bridget slept soundly that night. Perhaps Matt also gave Cuddlecat to Bridget who was scared of being left alone in the apartment with her thoughts.


As a comforter.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 08.06.14 14:22

Leading to one of the most sensational news stories of the decade.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 08.06.14 14:38

Thanks of considerable interest: 


4th of May Jeremy was describing his Rastaman spotting



7th May Amaral request to UK:


Also the collaboration of the UK's "Child Exploitation on Line Protection" may be useful if they wish to send one of their officers to provide assistance to the investigation;



 In the spirit of police to police cooperation we request the presence of a British criminal analyst who may be able to assist the enquiry;

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by missbeetle on 15.06.14 21:58

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(snipped from Fiona Payne's rogatory interview)

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 16.06.14 16:35

Libellous deleted - Please be very careful what you post

Good luck to Amaral.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by Rasputin on 16.06.14 16:48

And they all sat at the teat of a big fat charity suckling away ever after ...interesting theory !

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by Garrincha on 16.06.14 17:44

Hello J.Rob - I'm astounded at the effort you're putting in

ETA: on this & other threads

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by Guest on 16.06.14 18:29

I note some accusations being made, even if you put imo you are still accusing...........so be careful or posts will be deleted if libellous.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 17.06.14 9:50

@Garrincha wrote:Hello J.Rob - I'm astounded at the effort you're putting in

ETA: on this & other threads

Thanks for the support! Well this case just happens to encompass some of my bete noirs. I knew, from personal experience and from various work situations that there were some pretty bad things going on. But this seems to have brought them all together into one giant volcano, or something. Maybe a giant cess-pit.

I really hadn't been interested at all in this case at the beginning. I just assumed that the Mcs were laid back about their babysitting arrangements and were getting a lot of flak over that. I believed the abduction story.

It was only when I read about Tony Bennett I became interested. Then the more I delved, the more interested I became.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 17.06.14 9:52

@missbeetle wrote:" />

(snipped from Fiona Payne's rogatory interview)


Hmmmmm.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 17.06.14 10:04

@MaybeMaybenot wrote:The doorbell woke us up at about 1 am. It was the resort manager who I knew to be John and one of Jerry's friends. I think his name was Matt. He is white, slim, tall with greying hair. From previous conversations I knew him to be a diabetic specialist. We met him on the plane on the way to the destination. Matt said words to the effect that Jerry's daughter had been abducted, and that Jerry said he had seen me and wanted to know if I had seen anything. I said 'You're joking'. I offered help but they said there was nothing that could be done at that stage. We remained in the apartment but could see people around the pool and at the front with torches. I also saw the police arriving. We then went to bed


Night night Jeremy....

Dr Matthew Oldfield. Endocrinology and Diabetes specialist at Kingston NHS Hospital. 

An important witness in the case, certainly.

http://kingstonhospitaldrmattewoldfield.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 19.06.14 15:41

What has always puzzled me, is that Jez' sighting of blonde 'rasta-man' is not in Kate's book. As Jez is supposed to be a completely impartial witness, and seeing as he gave an account of this sighting to police the day after Madeleine disappeared. And gave accounts in subsequent police interviews too, this would seem to be quite a glaring omission.

This sighting would surely be one of the most important? A man(with a VERY distinctive appearance) behaving suspiciously either in the Tapas restaurant (Jez first police statement)  or taking an unusually long time in the toilets near the Tapas restaurant (a later statement to police). 

Kate writes about Jez' alleged encounter with Gerry outside the apartment that evening. She writes about where they were all standing. So clearly this encounter is a matter of importance to them.

In the 'Madeleine was Here' re-enactment, there is some discussion and disagreement about which side of the road Jez and Gerry were standing when they were talking.  So it would appear that this encounter is important to them.

Why, then, would Kate not even mention Jez' sighting in her book. She admits he is a key witness. Outside the apartment at around the time that Madeleine 'disappeared'. Even talks to Gerry - the last person to see Madeleine alive, by his own account.

It is in the police files that 'rasta-man' was identified as Gerry's surfing friend Mike Sperrey. Whereas Jez in one of his statements describes how Robert Murat tells him 'rasta-man' was identified as a local man and 'everything is okay' or words to that effect.

If 'rasta-man' IS Michael Sperrey, surely Jez would have recognized him as a fellow guest of the hotel? Whereas in at least one of his police statements he says he had not seen him before? But, then again, if - as Robert Murat is reported to have said - he is 'a local man' then that might account for why Jez did not recognize him.

And why is Mike Sperrey's witness statement not in the police files? Surely he is an important witness?

I also find it of considerably interest that while Jane Tanner reports having seen both Jez and Gerry that evening, Jez is adament he did not see Jane, despite it being practically impossible for her to have walked past without him seeing her.

Equally of interest is the fact that Jez was reportedly woken up by Matt in the company of a person who may well be an impartial witness (although who can tell in this strange case) the resort manager.

Oh what tangled webs there are.

IMO

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by j.rob on 19.06.14 15:54

The timings are interesting too. 

Jez and his pram and Gerry meet outside the apartment that evening at around 9.15pm.

Eye-witnesses first hear cries about a missing child as early as 9.20pm. Certainly well before the 10pm alarm raised that Kate writes about in her book. 

Jez and Gerry talk for a bit outside the apartment, then Jez returns to his apartment.

Jane allegedly sees Jez and Gerry at around 9.15pm. She also allegedly sees 'Tanner-man' at 9.15pm.

Gerry goes back to the restaurant after his encounter with Jez. If we are to believe some of the eye-witness reports, some kind of alarm has already been, or is about to be raised.

Matt allegedly checks on the McCann children at 9.30pm but says he does not see Madeleine.

By 10pm (or earlier according to some eyewitnesses) everyone is running around all over the place.

At 10pm a family sees a man who looks like Gerry carrying a child who looks like Madeleine.

when police arrive Jane Tanner and the group have already drawn a timeline of events that evening, highlighting Jane Tanner's 'sighting' at 9.15pm which, by a strange coincidence, just happens to be at much the same time that Jez bumped into Gerry.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by Latetothecase on 19.06.14 17:47

One of the most interesting things Jez Wilkins' police interview about his time line to me is that whilst "cleaning a bag" he found Murat's card inside. With no recollection of him giving him his card.

How on earth would Murat have access to your luggage in your holiday apartment JW? Did he know your wife, let's face it the ladies normally oversee packing of holidays with children abroad. Did he go in your apartment?

Did someone else put it there?

Was it your bag?

What would you say now Jeremiah if you had the chance over again?
It's not too late to free yourself of the albatross attached to you and yours name for ever more, otherwise.
The time is nigh, for many to speak out imo.

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by MaybeMaybenot on 19.06.14 17:50

@Latetothecase wrote:One of the most interesting things Jez Wilkins' police interview about his time line to me is that whilst "cleaning a bag" he found Murat's card inside. With no recollection of him giving him his card.

How on earth would Murat have access to your luggage in your holiday apartment JW? Did he know your wife, let's face it the ladies normally oversee packing of holidays with children abroad. Did he go in your apartment?

Did someone else put it there?

Was it your bag?

What would you say now Jeremiah if you had the chance over again?
It's not too late to free yourself of the albatross attached to you and yours name for ever more, otherwise.
The time is nigh, for many to speak out imo.
Ding ding

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Re: Jeremy Wilkins

Post by MaybeMaybenot on 19.06.14 17:55

Jeremy is the key (luz key IMO)
When he returns home he states he won't talk about his ho(rr!)liday.
Why ?????
At that time it was an abduckducktion jez.....man up 
Blue bag blue bag baby's got blue bag

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Praia da Luz Doppelgangers...

Post by missbeetle on 02.07.14 1:08

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Here we have Jeremy, Gerald... and Geraint.

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Who saw or didn't see who and when

Post by j.rob on 02.07.14 15:43

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So, who SAYS they saw someone  (or didn't see someone)in a key place at a key time that night?

Jane Tanner tells police when they arrive that night that she saw a dark-haired man carrying a sleeping child at 9.15pm.

Matthew Oldfield says he didn't see Madeleine when he looked into the apartment at 9.30pm.

Kate cries out 'they have taken her' at 10pm.

Matthew Oldfield at 1am tells Jeremy Wilkins that Gerry McCann saw him at 9.15pm.

Jeremy Wilkins tells police on Friday 4th that while in the tapas he saw a man later identified as OC guest and friend of Gerry, Mike Sperrey, acting suspiciously between 7.30-8pm the previous evening.. He down not report seeing Gerry..

Gerry in his police witness statement says he saw Jeremy with his pram outside the apartment at around 9.15 pm.

Jane Tanner tells police in statements that she saw Gerry and Jez and the dark haired abductor outside or near the  apartment at  9.15 pm that evening.

Jeremy Wilkins on 7th May contradicts his previous statement and says he saw Gerry outside the apartment at 9.15pm while pushing his pram around but he did not see Jane Tanner.. He does not mention 'Rastas-man'.

Jeremy Wilkins  in  much later police statements says he saw Jane Tanner outside the apartment at around7.30pm.

Jeremy Wilkins in later police statements says he saw a  woman and a (blonde rasta-man?) walking towards the reception  of OC  on 3rd may.

The Smith family 2 weeks after Madeleine's disappearance report to police they saw a man with a child (looking like Madeleine) who is definitely NOT Murat walk past them at 10pm. This is shortly after the e-fits of Jane Tanner's sighting are publicised and after Murat is made arguido.

When Gerry and Kate arrive back in the UK with the twins Mr Smith reports to police that the man they saw is Gerry McCann.

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