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CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by Woofer on 25.05.13 10:39

Why all this hatred of the Portuguese Police - it absolutely disgusts me. Who is behind it? I`ve never heard another country`s police force criticised with such vitriol as the PJ have been over the last 6 years. Whoever is behind it should be exposed and charged with inciting hatred of the Portuguese. How the Portuguese have contained their disgust, I really don`t know.

And if the SY have sharpened wits, they would immediately be suspicious of anyone denigrating the Portuguese police like this.

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by Monty Heck on 25.05.13 10:39

suzyjohnson Today at 10:02 am




I am certain this particular suspect has been linked in the news with the Madeleine McCann case before -

Yes, I thought so, been there, done that

This is from the Daily Mail in Aug 2007 -

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473543/Madeleine-Police-parents-picture-child-snatcher-suspect-kill...

so much for the PJ not taking it seriously

Excellent find SJ! Goes to prove that the source of today's article was simply quoted verbatim; nothing checked for accuracy, not even the DM's own archives. More transparent bull, but unfortunately swallowed whole and unquestioned by the Great British public (well, a fair proportion certainly). Oh for an honest journalist if such a beast exists, to write a counter piece puncturing today's screaming headline with some actual facts, beginning with this "new" paedo story is in fact old news and that the lead was investigated at the time.

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by Monty Heck on 25.05.13 10:49

Woofer Today at 10:39 am


Why all this hatred of the Portuguese Police - it absolutely disgusts me. Who is behind it? I`ve never heard another country`s police force criticised with such vitriol as the PJ have been over the last 6 years. Whoever is behind it should be exposed and charged with inciting hatred of the Portuguese. How the Portuguese have contained their disgust, I really don`t know.

Such blatant xenophobia is as appalling as the agenda behind it is transparent. IMO the two "journalists" responsible for today's DM tale were given the piece in the form of an exclusive press release from an "impeccable" source and printed it word for word. No matter their own paper dismissed this connection in the past, in fact it's unlikely they bothered to check their own archive. What matters is a Maddie story headlining today's edition. Veracity comes nowhere into this equation. It would seem that whoever is responsible for feeding this nonsense is desperate to bolster up the innocent parents v nasty, incompetent PJ line with all their might so that can only be those with very much a vested interest in making sure that point is made and hammered home. Wonder who that could be?

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by Ayniia on 25.05.13 11:21

@Monty Heck wrote:Woofer Today at 10:39 am


Why all this hatred of the Portuguese Police - it absolutely disgusts me. Who is behind it? I`ve never heard another country`s police force criticised with such vitriol as the PJ have been over the last 6 years. Whoever is behind it should be exposed and charged with inciting hatred of the Portuguese. How the Portuguese have contained their disgust, I really don`t know.

Such blatant xenophobia is as appalling as the agenda behind it is transparent. IMO the two "journalists" responsible for today's DM tale were given the piece in the form of an exclusive press release from an "impeccable" source and printed it word for word. No matter their own paper dismissed this connection in the past, in fact it's unlikely they bothered to check their own archive. What matters is a Maddie story headlining today's edition. Veracity comes nowhere into this equation. It would seem that whoever is responsible for feeding this nonsense is desperate to bolster up the innocent parents v nasty, incompetent PJ line with all their might so that can only be those with very much a vested interest in making sure that point is made and hammered home. Wonder who that could be?

And let's not forget that the PJ and everyone from Portuguese law enforcement along with the Prime Ministers/ambassadors and all were very concerned about the two countries good relations and with not "hurting" the Mccanns (and all British citizens) feelings and that's why they didn't asked for Madeleine's clothes / tapped the Mccanns and friends mobile phones and so on... basic things that would certainly have helped the investigation.

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Post by jd on 25.05.13 11:45

Didn't Philip Edmunds leave a day early (suddenly) to go to.......Switzerland

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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 11:50

I think that's where his sons live with their mother, JD. I would love to know though why he left early and why he hasn't published the photo he claims to have of Madeleine in PDL.

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Post by jd on 25.05.13 12:00

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I think that's where his sons live with their mother, JD. I would love to know though why he left early and why he hasn't published the photo he claims to have of Madeleine in PDL.

Most probably because he doesn't have that photo. He just said this to shut us up

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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 12:04

It didn't work, did it?! Shutting us up, that is.

Maybe the photo does exist but with a child in the background who could be anybody; no proof at all that it was Madeleine.

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Post by PeterMac on 25.05.13 12:05

The Mail comments have allowed one from a woman in Thun, Switzerland who remembers reports that the case was investigated and the man was ruled out because he was not in Portugal at the time.
Oh that we could contact her !

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by jd on 25.05.13 12:08

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:It didn't work, did it?! Shutting us up, that is..

Nooooooo big grin

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by bristow on 25.05.13 12:22

Going to post the whole of the 2007 Mail article here, as it's sure to be wooshed.

Madeleine: Police to show her parents picture of child snatcher suspect who killed himself
Last updated at 15:56 07 August 2007

Detectives investigating the possibility that Madeleine was taken by a child snatcher who later killed himself are to show her parents a photograph of the dead suspect.
Urs Von Aesch, 67, shot himself in the head and was the prime suspect in the disappearance of five-year-old Swiss girl Ylenia Lenhard, who went missing last week.
The links between Ylenia and Madeleine are striking - they are only a year apart in age, both are blonde and both are of a similar build and height.
It was reported in the Swiss press that detectives in Portugal are to show his photograph to Kate and Gerry McCann after it emerged Von Aesch was on holiday in the Algarve at the beginning of May, when their daughter was snatched.
Police also believe another man, who was earlier gunned down by Von Aesch, could hold the key to solving the mystery.
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Urs Hans Von Aesch, right, shot himself in a Swiss forest. He was the chief suspect over missing Ylenia Lenhard, left


Read more...
Police 'find blood on walls of Madeleine abduction flat'
I'm still sure it was Madeleine, says Belgian cafe woman
Kate McCann reveals agony of her five-year fight to be a mother


Detectives are keeping a vigil by the hospital bed of the shot man, hoping he was about to blow the whistle on the child abductor before he was gunned down.
Through Interpol, Swiss police informed colleagues in Spain and Portugal after learning that Von Aesch lived near Alicante and was also on holiday in the Algarve when Madeleine disappeared.
Officers in St Gallen in central Switzerland close to where Ylenia disappeared, have also re-opened files on five other girls who disappeared in the area before Von Aesch moved to Benimantell on the Spanish coast.
His wife who is still in Spain has been questioned by detectives and they are also checking the movements of his Spanish registered white Renault van.
Hans Peter Eugster, a Swiss police spokesman, said: "Because of the similarities in both cases and because Von Aesch lived in Spain we have informed Interpol.
"They in turn have passed on the details to both colleagues in Spain and Portugal and they are looking into reports that Von Aesch was on holiday in the Algarve.
"In our case he is the prime suspect in the disappearance of Ylenia and his body was found near to where some of her belongings were found."
Ylenia was last seen a week ago after she went to her local swimming pool at Appenzell in north east Switzerland.
Hours later a backpack was found in nearby woods at Oberburen which contained her cycling helmet and her scooter was also recovered close by.
Twenty-four hours later in the same woods police discovered the body of Von Aesch who had died from a self-inflicted gunshot to the head.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473543/Madeleine-Police-parents-picture-child-snatcher-suspect-killed-himself.html#ixzz2UInhBtSg

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Post by ShuBob on 25.05.13 12:36

The best chance of solving the Maddie mystery is by the Portuguese authorities so one has to wonder whose interest is best served by denigrating them.

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by jeanmonroe on 25.05.13 12:40

"DUZ I GETZ A BONUS SARGE, FOR GETTING THE PAPE TO SAY ABOUT THE DIRTY, F***ING PAEDO PERV HAVINGS A WHITE VAN, LIKES WOT WE SAID WE WUZ GONNA SAY AT EVERY OPPORTUNITZ? I RECKONS THE DIRTY PERV ALSO KILLED ALL THEM CLEANER PAEDOS THAT WOT WUZ IN THE WHITE VAN, SARGE"

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by plebgate on 25.05.13 13:08

@PeterMac wrote:Exactly so.
Then
Madeleine: Police to show her parents picture of child snatcher suspect who killed himself 07 August 2007
Detectives investigating the possibility that Madeleine was taken by a child snatcher who later killed himself are to show her parents a photograph of the dead suspect.
Urs Von Aesch, 67, shot himself in the head and was the prime suspect in the disappearance of five-year-old Swiss girl Ylenia Lenhard, who went missing last week.
The links between Ylenia and Madeleine are striking - they are only a year apart in age, both are blonde and both are of a similar build and height.
It was reported in the Swiss press that detectives in Portugal are to show his photograph to Kate and Gerry McCann after it emerged Von Aesch was on holiday in the Algarve at the beginning of May, when their daughter was snatched.
And now
Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike? That's the dramatic new lead uncovered by British detectives. . . so why are the Portuguese police refusing to investigate?

Wouldn't it have been better to show J. Tanner or am I missing something?

Good find that old article.

At this rate the SY are going to end up looking as daft as the PIs.

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by jd on 25.05.13 13:08

Having read todays article, I do not see any evidence of why Urs Hans von Aesch is the man who took Maddie

He was staying in Alicante (which is hundreds of miles away), comes from Switzerland, kidnapped and murdered a 5 year old blonde lookalike 5 months later (in Switzerland), oh but he has visited the Algarve in the past......IS THIS IT!!

Is this the "dramatic new lead uncovered by British detectives."...wow wow, just bloody wow! Well done SY with all your "elite" team and years to investigate this story on British taxpayers expense. A paedo in another country snatched a a lookalike blonde girl. Just brilliant work! I wonder how many Maddie blonde lookalike girls there were in Mark Warner alone that week! Let alone the world

Where is there any EVIDENCE that shows he took Maddie? Seen in Praia De Luz perhaps? DNA maybe?

"He was living near Alicante in Spain with his wife, but border records show that, driving a white van, von Aesch re-entered Switzerland on July 10. " - Is this really and truly evidence?????? or even suspicion????


This story is such bull its absolutely staggering...and another rehashed story. Just like the Taxi story rehashed and altered to suit the mccann agenda, or the Ibiza photo that was used for a Maddie sighting in Brazil

Oh by the way daily mail.... "Only now, with the intervention of an elite team of detectives from Scotland Yard which has been carrying out a review of the case on David Cameron’s orders" - David Cameron did not order the SY review, he was "persuaded" to by his best pal Rebekkah Brooks, yes thats right a newspaper editor telling the prime minister what to do

"Detectives are now ‘actively’ examining mobile phone traffic in the Praia da Luz area on the day Madeleine was last seen" - Do check the mobiles of the Tapas 9 and robert murat. Especially the mccanns and murat in the days prior to May 3rd. Let see what this "elite' team cam come up with

"Experts will tell you that what happens in the immediate aftermath of a child going missing — the so-called golden hour — is critical. Yet Portuguese police took four days to even issue a description of Madeleine." - Its a bit hard to have a definitive description when the witness (jane tanner) changes who she saw from blonde hair, dark hair, clean shaven, moustache, glasses no glasses, man, woman!! And only seeing the back of the "person' in the dark. Plus in the so called golden hour, the Tapas lot were ringing the media sky news/BBC news, kate mccann didn't even search and just stayed in the apartment with her drugged up twins who did not even stir all night despite all the commotion

"The only British involvement in the case before this was that of Leicestershire police, the McCanns’ local force, who were responsible for collating all the investigation work carried out on behalf of their Portuguese counterparts, such as interviewing British witnesses." - Yes, and holding back and keeping quiet critical statements like the gaspar statement from the official police investigation. Isn't it the job of the police to investigate all possibilities? Not withhold them and bury them for 6 months until the lead investigator is sacked by the British Prime Minister for getting to the truth

THey were not the only British Involvement daily mail...stop lying. gerry mccann had a hotline to 10 Downing Street. Gordon Brown phoned john mccann to help advise him how the limited company could gain charitable status

"Two private detectives employed by the McCanns, Dave Edgar and Arthur Cowley, have also been interviewed."... one can only just LOL about these 2 clowns big grin

"In his report, Chief Inspector Tavares da Almeida concluded — without a shred of hard evidence — that Madeleine had died in the flat......" 11 alerts to cadaver and blood all associated to one and only THE MCCANNS. From their apartment 5A, car, clothes, toys. The mccanns had death cadaver all over them...But ignore that, they hadn't been to Alicante I must admit!

"Could a police officer have made a more catastrophic misjudgement?" ....The "elite" SY team together with the Daily Mail are doing just this

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Re: CASE SOLVED, WE CAN ALL GO HOME!- Daily Mail 25/5/13 - Was Maddie snatched by monster who killed this little lookalike?

Post by PeterMac on 25.05.13 13:13

"In his report, Chief Inspector Tavares da Almeida concluded — without a shred of hard evidence — that Madeleine had died in the flat......"
Try telling that to
Zapata
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Gilroy
Bulloch
Dickens
Gifford-Hull

all of whom are rotting in prison on the basis of the alerts by cadaver dogs.

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Post by plebgate on 25.05.13 13:16

It really is about time now that the government told the public just how long the SY Review is going to last and exactly how much it is all costing.

£4.5 million spent ony to come up with this re-hashed twaddle.

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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 13:21

This latest article is so, so crazy and in pertinent contradiction with their 2007 article on the same paedo and can so, so easily be disproved, that I'm starting to believe that there's indeed something being orchestrated, but NOT what it seems to be ...

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Post by bristow on 25.05.13 13:38

If something isn't being orchestrated then this is going to be one of the top whitewashes, up there with Jimmy Savile et al.

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Post by bristow on 25.05.13 13:42

Quite a few comments from The Fail article saying that the story was covered in 2007, surprised they're allowing them through, although they haven't allowed my comment about the cadaver dogs or my link to their 2007 article.

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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 14:03

@plebgate wrote:It really is about time now that the government told the public just how long the SY Review is going to last and exactly how much it is all costing.

£4.5 million spent ony to come up with this re-hashed twaddle.

Yes it is about time plebgate, were still waiting to hear the under pressure stament from Theresa May!

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Post by PeterMac on 25.05.13 14:09

@bristow wrote:Quite a few comments from The Fail article saying that the story was covered in 2007, surprised they're allowing them through, although they haven't allowed my comment about the cadaver dogs or my link to their 2007 article.
They haven't allowed any of mine so far, even though I toned them right down.

I have, however, emailed the news desk.
news@dailymail.co.uk
with a polite reminder with the link, that they did it 6 years ago.

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Post by Lance De Boils on 25.05.13 14:15

They've got this bloke's white van. Any traces from Maddie in it? A hair? Some DNA? Anything?

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Post by bristow on 25.05.13 14:34

@PeterMac wrote:
@bristow wrote:Quite a few comments from The Fail article saying that the story was covered in 2007, surprised they're allowing them through, although they haven't allowed my comment about the cadaver dogs or my link to their 2007 article.
They haven't allowed any of mine so far, even though I toned them right down.

I have, however, emailed the news desk.
news@dailymail.co.uk
with a polite reminder with the link, that they did it 6 years ago.
Good idea PM, I will do the same.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 25.05.13 14:35

' ........... Yet Portuguese police took four days to even issue a description of Madeleine ................' And why would they even do that when her photograph was on Sky news from 4th May onwards?

I don't know what the Daily Mail is playing at, unless it's for dramatic headlines later on?



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