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19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by Guest on 17.05.13 14:49

@PeterMac wrote:They are not going to name their suspects before their arrest, so we are unlikely to hear anything for a very long time.
Why ever not, PeterMac?

We are told that these are 'persons of interest' and 'people we wish to eliminate from our enquiries'.

A three-year-old missing British girl has been missing for over six years.

Why should we wait a moment longer to be given as full a description as possible of each of these 'more than a handful' of suspects, so that we can locate them and tell the police where they are?

TWO OTHER POINTS.

Since what date exactly did the Metropoiitan Police decide not to put out a public statement by media release to all and sundry, but instead release the information exclusively to the London Evening Standard?

Also, is 'more than a handful' a new description we can all now use?

Does it come somewhere between 'a few' and 'several'?

Or is it more than 'several'?

e.g. as in: How many pints have you had? 'More than a handful'

How many times have you been to Spain for your holidays? 'More than a handful'

How many suits have you got? 'More than a handful'

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by Guest on 17.05.13 14:52

candyfloss wrote:Errr... haven't SY been going through the files for the last 2 years, what is this comment supposed to mean...

He said it was “perfectly probable” that information which could identify the suspect responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance was already within the Portuguese files.
What?!*%!*!&??? You mean that all that stuff they seized from the offices of Metodo 3 and from Kevin Halligen was totally useless??????

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by nomendelta on 17.05.13 14:56

I see the Sky News article mentions that the parents were totally cleared and found to have no link to Maddie's disappearance. Strange, I thought the particular wording was more along the lines of there not being enough evidence?

Obviously this has been prompted and probably generated from TM. What's interesting is the clear, single filter that exposes it to be balderdash.

If there was ANY belief that Maddie was still alive wouldn't there be a tad more urgency than public announcements of having more than a handful of suspects? Furthermore, if they believed she was still alive wouldn't they just get on and investigate rather than alert the perps and give them time to go underground?

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by Guest on 17.05.13 15:05

Sky's Mark White has just said that they contacted Clarence Mitchell on behalf of McCanns and he said.....

Not commenting on latest developments





Strange you would think he would have said they were very pleased about this latest news.

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by chrissie on 17.05.13 15:10

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#mccann Scot Yard says it has identified "more than a handful" of suspects for murder of Madeleine McCann in its review of Portuguese case

murder? He's obviously made a mistake

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by Guest on 17.05.13 15:11

Oh dear Martin Brunt has just tweeted this.......



martinbrunt‏@skymartinbrunt18m

#mccann Scot Yard says it has identified "more than a handful" of suspects for murder of Madeleine McCann in its review of Portuguese case

Murder???????????????

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by ShuBob on 17.05.13 15:12

candyfloss wrote:Sky's Mark White has just said that they contacted Clarence Mitchell on behalf of McCanns and he said.....

Not commenting on latest developments



Strange you would think he would have said they were very pleased about this latest news.

Perhaps, they aren't pleased

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Post by ShuBob on 17.05.13 15:13

candyfloss wrote:Oh dear Martin Brunt has just tweeted this.......



martinbrunt‏@skymartinbrunt18m

#mccann Scot Yard says it has identified "more than a handful" of suspects for murder of Madeleine McCann in its review of Portuguese case

Murder???????????????

You can sort of see why Clarence Mitchell and the McCanns have refused to comment.

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Post by nomendelta on 17.05.13 15:14

Oh that murder word! How very dare he!

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by ShuBob on 17.05.13 15:18

The McCanns have changed their tune and have now released a statement saying they're encouraged by the SY review. That was quick Rolling Eyes

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Post by Newintown on 17.05.13 15:18

Could this breaking news be the reason why K & G McCann looked totally devastated at Madeleine's vigil on 3rd May? Had they been forewarned by someone that SY & the PJ were taking things a step further?

I can't recall either K & G looking so devastated since Madeleine's disappearance, only when Gerry McCann came out of the PJ interview at the PDL police station, he looked liked he'd been hit by a double decker bus. Madeleine's disappearance didn't seem to age them at all. I think I would have looked a complete wreck for the past 6 years not knowing what had happened to my daughter or what her circumstances were. I wouldn't have been able to sleep or eat properly for the past 6 years, let alone going jogging every day.

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by Guest on 17.05.13 15:19

He's now tweeted this, the other still there......



martinbrunt‏@skymartinbrunt2m

#mccann Scot Yard says it has identified suspects for disappearance of Madeleine McCann in its review of Portuguese case

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by jeanmonroe on 17.05.13 15:21

Just on Sky.
Gerry and Kate 'no comment'
Gerry and Kate are being kept informed!
Possible future 'suspects' G&K are being kept informed, by the most senior MURDER defective in SY!
WTF?
Well, now we know what all that BS was about by G McCann saying (on Boulton) 'the police will go public and make an appeal when they do a bit more 'digging' and ask the public."
If these so called 'suspects' are out there, why hasn't SY been on TV, today, asking for us, the public to be on the lookout for these, obviously, dangerous child snatchers?
What would SY have to say IF one of these 'suspects' snatches, abducts, murders a child later TODAY?
"we didn't 'join the dots' sorry about that"
"well, we had our suspicions, but we weren't gonna tell you, the dumbass public, WHO it was"
"we will refer ourselves to the IPCC, and lessons will be learned"
Because it's all BS?
Bendy cop Campbell trying to go out with a whimper?

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by jeanmonroe on 17.05.13 15:30

candyfloss wrote:Oh dear Martin Brunt has just tweeted this.......



martinbrunt‏@skymartinbrunt18m

#mccann Scot Yard says it has identified "more than a handful" of suspects for murder of Madeleine McCann in its review of Portuguese case

Murder???????????????

Don't forget BRUNTY got 'moved on' from outside SY!
Didn't they know WHO HE WAS? lol!
He was well upset about THAT!

Wonder if McCanns will SUE Brunty for 'hindering and stopping people from 'searching' and donating to their private fund for a 'live' Madeleine' by suggesting she is murdered!

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by Guest on 17.05.13 15:30

Yes, the no comment on developments has now changed to this........



Sky News Newsdesk‏@SkyNewsBreak7m

Update - a statement from Kate and Gerry McCann says they are "encouraged and very pleased by the work the police are doing"

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by nomendelta on 17.05.13 15:34

Can it really be just me that sees how transparent this is?

The McCanns have pushed the abduction story since day one and have taken legal steps to silence anyone suggesting Maddie is dead.

I am a deep believer in "Actions speak louder than words"...whilst the McCanns pay lip service to the idea of their daughter still being out there is a statement that they "won't comment on operational matters" REALLY the reaction of a couple hoping to be reunited with their daughter?

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by suzyjohnson on 17.05.13 15:34

Well there certainly seems to be a lot going on behind the scenes recently. Whoever was responsible for Madeleine's disappearance, I really hope they make some progress at last in solving the case.

From what I can see though, these newspaper reports do not seem to indicate that the SY have identified the Tapas 9 as suspects because in that case I don't think the SY would be handing the case back to the Portuguese who would have much more difficulty in taking the case further. I really hope that SY haven't given the Portuguese a lot of very expensive, but pointless, leads to follow up.

Anyway it will be interesting to see what's next, although I fear Tigger may have hit the nail on the head, '....... I think they're desperately trying to wind it down, hand it over to the Portuguese and it will be their fault if they don't re-open the case .......'

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**BREAKING 17 May** SY Review Team have identified some likely suspects: 'Portuguese Police must now act', they demand

Post by Monty Heck on 17.05.13 15:39

Tony Bennett Today at 12:12 pm

Scotland Yard has identified a number of potential suspects who may have abducted Madeleine McCann, the force’s top detective revealed today. Investigators carrying out a review of the case have drawn up a list of people who they say are “of interest” to the inquiry.

Today he urged the Portuguese authorities to investigate the new leads identified by the British review.
Inital response was "here we go again....." BUT reading on raised some hope that the T9 will finally be investigated. There are strong hints given, these in particular stand
out....

DCS Campbell, speaking on the eve of his retirement from the Met, said: “There are a lot of people of interest. There are people who could be properly explored further, if only to be eliminated.” He refused to give numbers but said there was “more than a handful” of names of “people of interest”. Last year the review team led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said it had identified 195 potential leads after examining a huge bundle of material. 195 is an awful lot "more than a handful", so the vast majority have already been eliminated.

Today DCS Campbell said the 30-strong review squad had done a “fantastic” job in identifying “further investigative and forensic opportunities.” There have been no opportunites to gather new forensics therefore this can only mean further investigation of existing forensic material.

He said it was “perfectly probable” that information which could identify the suspect responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance was already with the Porguese files. So the suspect/s being within the files is a probability, not a mere possiblity. He added: “We have to ask ourselves why are cases unsolved and, on many occasions, we find we passed the suspects by already and the suspect sits within our system.” The suspects' details being already in their system is not a mere possibility, but a probablity. Also the vast majority of the 195 "new leads" have been eliminated so they should a whole lot easier to identify.

DCS Campbell said there were a "good number" of people who could be interviewed and eliminated to allow investigators to focus on a smaller group. If it's obvious to us reading here that a well known "smaller group" need investigated further, surely SY cannot fail to miss that conclusion? This absolutely needs to happen and in fact were I a member of that group and innocent of involvment, I would be REQUESTING this myself in order to finally clear my name.

DCS Campbell said: “The Portuguese hopefully will pursue some of these investigative opportunities with our assistance. There is room for further work and collaboration to resolve the case.” No need surely for further collaborative work unless some of the group who warrant further investigation are domiciled in the UK. One can but hope this is not yet another false dawn. ""

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by jeanmonroe on 17.05.13 15:46

candyfloss wrote:Oh dear Martin Brunt has just tweeted this.......



martinbrunt‏@skymartinbrunt18m

#mccann Scot Yard says it has identified "more than a handful" of suspects for murder of Madeleine McCann in its review of Portuguese case

Murder???????????????

TOO LATE BRUNTY, SCRRENSHOT SAVED, in case G&K want me to go to court and testify against you.

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by russiandoll on 17.05.13 15:51

wonder why he does nto simply tweet he made an error as he has been talking about murder in 2 recent trials, one still in progress...easy mistake to make.

anyway...if the Met believed this to be a stranger abduction, why alert the perp/s that they are on to him/her/ them?
Not the way to play it, surely...

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by stillsloppingout on 17.05.13 15:54

Here we go again another co- ordinated press attack by team Mccann . [ tomorrow it will be front page the usual hacks will IMO be given there stuffed brown envelope's to copy this cr**. ]

They have been trying to find a scapegoat for this [ crime !! ] since day 1 Murat [ likend him to Huntley ] 2 Hewlit Peado dying perfect , but unfortunately for them could not make that one stick .

I expect IMO the Met will have found the local village idiot / drunk in PDL , and are fitting him up as we speak .

I am sick of having being insulted by all this bull@@it .

Would it be possible for somebody to email the Met and ask what exactly they are playing at .

I always assumed this all came about IMO after a violent altercation between Maddie and Kate [ several head injuries resulting in death , hence not wanting police or medical assistance, as clearly could not have been accident . ]

But the more help from the top they receive the more murkier IMO i feel the real reason may have been .

on a different note

Why do you think Barrymore was not charged IMO he would have brought Police, Judges etc down with him . [ called the velvet curtain . surely this is NOT a Peado ring that has to be covered up at all cost . the more i think about it thats all .


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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by Guest on 17.05.13 15:58

Scotland Yard Maddie McCann quiz bill soars to £4.5m
Cherry Blossom on Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:40 am




Scotland Yard's Maddie McCann quiz bill soars to £4.5m


THE cost of Operation Grange, the Scotland Yard review of the Madeleine McCann mystery, has risen to ­£4.5million, the Sunday Express can reveal today.


Detectives are said to be making “good progress” with the ­estimated £6,228-a-day investigation that began in May 2011

The Home Office told us: “We remain committed to supporting the search.”

Home Secretary Theresa May will this week face pressure to explain in ­detail if taxpayers are ­getting value for money.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/395273/Scotland-Yard-s-Maddie-McCann-quiz-bill-soars-to-4-5m

That is a lot of money.

We are still waiting

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Post by russiandoll on 17.05.13 16:07

on Sky......Met not saying if people on talk -to list are Brits or Portuguese.
possibility reading btwn lines of statement that new forensic evidence has come to light
police keeping cards close to chest
police liaising closely with Portuguese colleagues
word disappearance used not abduction


the fans are shouting on twitter that because they are urging Portugal to reopen that this means no Brits on list
I think it simply means that it is Portugal's case.
And it also looks like Hewlett is not the patsy

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Post by Cristobell on 17.05.13 16:08

These press reports are coming from SY not Team McCann. Following Marting Brunt's Clarence quickly hastened to make a statement on behalf of the couple, 'very encouraged etc'. Don't believe a bit of it. Also think the fact that Sky News are leading with it may suggest something is happening. Would SY really put life of child in danger by saying they have identified abductors?

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Re: 19 May Mail on Sunday: 'MADDIE: UK CLEANERS ARE SUSPECTS' + WHO SOOTHED A WEEPING MADDIE the Express

Post by sweetex on 17.05.13 16:14

I have not posted in ages!! But I often read, and just came across this new development.

For some reason I just don't trust this. Maybe we have been disappointed to many times before, but I don't think anything will come from this. PJ said they will only open if NEW evidence comes to light. Maybe just me I don't know, but let's see!

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