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David Payne and Gerry McCann's very dodgy conversation about Madeleine

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David Payne and Gerry McCann's very dodgy conversation about Madeleine

Post by Google.Gaspar.Statements on 15.05.13 10:38

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Hello everyone. I haven't been following this case for years like most people here, but I recently came across this statement on Maddie Case Files forum after the link was posted on twitter.

Taken from Katharina Gaspar's statement:

One night, when we were on holiday, the adults, in other words, the couples that I mentioned were on a patio outside the house where we were staying. We had been eating and drinking.

I was sitting between Dave and Gerry whom I believe were both talking about Madeleine. I don’t remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like “she”, referring to Madeleine, “would do this”.

When he mentioned “this”, Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, whilst with the other hand he circled his nipple, with a circulating movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner there being an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing.

I remember that I was shocked at this, and looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to see their reactions. I looked around (page 4) to see “did anyone else hear this, or was it just me”. There was a nervous silence noted in the conversations of all the others and immediately afterwards everyone began talking again.

I never spoke to anyone about this, but I always felt that it was something very strange and that it wasn’t something that should be done or said.

Apart from this, I remember that Dave did the same thing once again. When I refer to this, I want to mention again that it was during a conversation, in which he was talking about an imaginary situation, though I could not say precisely what it was about. I believe that he was talking about his own daughter, L., though I’m not certain. He slid one of his fingers in and out of his mouth, while the other hand drew a circle around his nipple in a provocative and sexual manner. I believe that he was referring to the way that L., would behave or would do it.

I believe that he did this later on, during the holidays, but I cannot be sure. The only time, besides this one, that I was with Dave and Fiona was several weeks after the holidays, when Savio and I met up with Gerry, Kate, Dave and Fiona at a restaurant in Leicester.

I am absolutely certain that he said what he said and that he made the gestures I referred to, but that could have occurred in the restaurant in Leicester, even though (page five) I believe that it was later on, in Majorca. When I heard Dave saying and doing this a second time, I took it more seriously.

I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different way from me or from the others. I imagined that maybe he had visited Internet sites related to small children. In short, I thought that he might be interested in child pornography on the internet.

During our holidays, I was more attentive at the bath times after hearing Dave saying that.

During our holidays in Majorca, it was the fathers who took care of the children baths. I had the tendency to walk close to the bathroom, if it was Dave bathing the children. I remember telling Savio to took care to be there, in case it was Dave helping to bathe the children and, in particular, my daughter E. I was very clear about this, as having heard him say that had disturbed me, and I did not trust him to give bath to E. alone.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic50.html

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Re: David Payne and Gerry McCann's very dodgy conversation about Madeleine

Post by Google.Gaspar.Statements on 15.05.13 10:40

Why haven't the McCann;s sued Dr David Payne?
Why hasn't Dr David Payne sued Katharina Gaspar?
Why didn't Gerry McCann thump Dr David Payne for referring to his daughter like this?

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Re: David Payne and Gerry McCann's very dodgy conversation about Madeleine

Post by tiny on 15.05.13 10:42

million dollar question.

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Post by Guest on 15.05.13 10:48

Speaking generally, if such a conversation occurred between two people, there is no way that they would have been said by person A unless he knew that person B was like-minded.

Welcome GGS, there is so much else to learn about this case which the mainstream media doesn't think we need to know.

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Re: David Payne and Gerry McCann's very dodgy conversation about Madeleine

Post by Guest on 15.05.13 10:52

There are 11 topics on this statement on the forum, if you put Gaspar in search bar...

here is just one....

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4559-the-controversial-gaspar-statement?highlight=gaspar

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Re: David Payne and Gerry McCann's very dodgy conversation about Madeleine

Post by tigger on 15.05.13 14:33

The statement wasn't passed on to the PJ until some time in October 07. When the McCanns had left Portugal.

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Post by Pershing36 on 15.05.13 23:49

@tigger wrote:The statement wasn't passed on to the PJ until some time in October 07. When the McCanns had left Portugal.

Yes showing that our own Police force was impeding the investigation.

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