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Post by Guest on 04.05.13 23:38

@Newintown wrote:My premonition of about 3 hours ago seems to have been right, looking at the tears from Kate and devastation on Gerry's face. Oh dear, oh dear. I didn't think it was for Madeleine, we haven't seen anything like it for the past 6 years, it was only grief for themselves, as usual. Had they been told of the following days headlines, at that time, no wonder they both looked like they'd been hit by a double decker bus, driven by Richard Desmond perhaps

Didn't one of the editors say at Leveson they always ran their stories past Clarence Mitchell first. Was it Desmond who said that, or someone else. I thik they would have known about this a day or two ago....or maybe not.

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Post by ShuBob on 04.05.13 23:38

@loopzdaloop wrote:Chuffed that the express have paid him for a story. Happy anniversary.

How do you know he has been paid?

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Post by russiandoll on 04.05.13 23:39

Newintown I agree, but I do think the entire 6 years of lies, guilt and stress have been a mix with genuine grief for their daughter.

The Met are not going to do Murats bidding but they will be interested given he was a former arguido with what he has to say.

This whole thing appears to be linked in some way to government scandal, there seems to be a domino effect.

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Post by Newintown on 04.05.13 23:44

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@Newintown wrote:My premonition of about 3 hours ago seems to have been right, looking at the tears from Kate and devastation on Gerry's face. Oh dear, oh dear. I didn't think it was for Madeleine, we haven't seen anything like it for the past 6 years, it was only grief for themselves, as usual. Had they been told of the following days headlines, at that time, no wonder they both looked like they'd been hit by a double decker bus, driven by Richard Desmond perhaps

Didn't one of the editors say at Leveson they always ran their stories past Clarence Mitchell first. Was it Desmond who said that, or someone else. I thik they would have known about this a day or two ago....or maybe not.

Perhaps they didn't run it by CM this time, could K & G have heard it direct from the horses's mouth? When was the candle vigil held, last evening I suspect. It doesn't get dark until about 8.30 p.m. in the UK. LK's programme was on Wednesday, papers print stories late into the evening, could K & G have been told late yesterday just before the vigil.

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Post by Ayniia on 04.05.13 23:45

candyfloss wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:
@Ayniia wrote:Murat's one of the three former arguidos so he can ask the case to be reopened as much as the Mccanns or am I wrong? I know this may be words out of context just for the sake of selling papers but...

I believe the Portuguese will only reopen with new evidence.

A reconstruction would be classed as new evidence I think.

I don't really know about law but I think whem GA said the Mccanns can ask for the case to be reopened,it's because of their former arguido status so Murat can too? If he in fact said this after all this time, something must be happening...I hope

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Post by loopzdaloop on 04.05.13 23:48

@ShuBob wrote:
@loopzdaloop wrote:Chuffed that the express have paid him for a story. Happy anniversary.

How do you know he has been paid?

Why else would he pop his head out this weekend of all weekends in Richmond Desmond's express as an exclusive? He hasn't done a 'lowkey' McCann press junket and broken out the microphones and amps. Murat was burnt by his involvement previously and was almost the patsy, one would have thought he turned his back on it all, like anyone else would have done in his situation.

This is designed to prod the hornets nest, we all know a reconstruction would unearth lots of inconsistencies, the mccanns won't want that. Let's see what happens.


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Post by aiyoyo on 04.05.13 23:48

@russiandoll wrote:
@Ayniia wrote:Murat's one of the three former arguidos so he can ask the case to be reopened as much as the Mccanns or am I wrong? I know this may be words out of context just for the sake of selling papers but...

I believe the Portuguese will only reopen with new evidence.


True, because their judiciary systems mandate that.
But if the Portuguese have the full support of the MET, maybe a certain procedure can be put in place to oblige witnesses to return to cooperate without officially reopening.
The Mccanns CANNOT refuse. Not after they'd told the Public repeated that "they will cooperate fully with the Police" that "they will do anything, leave no stone unturned" to find Maddie. That "they were delighted that MET are sinking its teeth in and closer to the truth". Surely they would want to find out first hand what the MET have in store for them, and if that requires a return visit, how can they refuse?

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Post by Nina on 04.05.13 23:55

Why 48 hours I wonder, not just that evening.

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Post by aiyoyo on 04.05.13 23:56

@loopzdaloop wrote:Chuffed that the express have paid him for a story. Happy anniversary.

For all we know, Desmond may not have told Murat that his papers was going to run Murat's comments.
This is just Desmond exacting his pound of flesh in small doze and will sizzle out to nothing.

Just wait for Mccanns reaction - whether Pinky will be smoked out of his hole again to spin this.

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Post by russiandoll on 04.05.13 23:56

agree aiyoyo and why I am waiting for Petermac to explain how they could refuse to cooperate.

Reviewer on Sky just said the disappearance was from Spain....oops.
and at the end of the article CM has said

the McCanns are very happy with the way the Met are conducting the review.

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Post by Guest on 04.05.13 23:57

@ Nina:
Exactly.

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Post by russiandoll on 04.05.13 23:58

Clarrie declined to comment apart from saying K and G happy with Met review.

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Post by Guest on 04.05.13 23:59

Just been on Sky news press review last item only 2 mins on it. The chappie reviewing, said at the end of the article it says Clarence Mitchell declined to comment, but makes it clear the McCanns are very happy the way SY are carrying out the investigation. So no comment from CM on going back to Portugal then.

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Post by ShuBob on 04.05.13 23:59

@loopzdaloop wrote:
@ShuBob wrote:
@loopzdaloop wrote:Chuffed that the express have paid him for a story. Happy anniversary.

How do you know he has been paid?

Why else would he pop his head out this weekend of all weekends in Richmond Desmond's express as an exclusive? He hasn't done a 'lowkey' McCann press junket and broken out the microphones and amps. Murat was burnt by his involvement previously and was almost the patsy, one would have thought he turned his back on it all, like anyone else would have done in his situation.

This is designed to prod the hornets nest, we all know a reconstruction would unearth lots of inconsistencies, the mccanns won't want that. Let's see what happens.


So you don't know he's been paid then? That's all I was asking.

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Post by russiandoll on 05.05.13 0:00

@Nina wrote:Why 48 hours I wonder, not just that evening.


because something important happened 2 days earlier ?

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Post by tasprin on 05.05.13 0:01

candyfloss wrote:
@Newintown wrote:My premonition of about 3 hours ago seems to have been right, looking at the tears from Kate and devastation on Gerry's face. Oh dear, oh dear. I didn't think it was for Madeleine, we haven't seen anything like it for the past 6 years, it was only grief for themselves, as usual. Had they been told of the following days headlines, at that time, no wonder they both looked like they'd been hit by a double decker bus, driven by Richard Desmond perhaps

Didn't one of the editors say at Leveson they always ran their stories past Clarence Mitchell first. Was it Desmond who said that, or someone else. I thik they would have known about this a day or two ago....or maybe not.
Yes, they knew. The Express asked Clarence Mitchell to comment before they published the story. He declined to comment and just said the McCanns were happy with the SY review

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Post by Guest on 05.05.13 0:01

@russiandoll wrote:
@Nina wrote:Why 48 hours I wonder, not just that evening.


because something important happened 2 days earlier ?
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Yep
IMO, of course ...

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Post by suzyjohnson on 05.05.13 0:02

Russian Doll, I agree that the McCann's will have been grieving for their daughter throughout all this.

I think the problem for SY/ PJ will be that they will have to extradite the McCanns and others to Portugal to continue with the case.

It looked to me as though the McCann's had been arguing the other night at the Rothley service, if one parent had insisted on a cover up and the other had just gone along with it, there would be a lot to argue about (in fact if that is what they have done they have probably made things a lot more difficult for themselves than if they had owned up at the time) maybe the pressure was getting to them?

Murat is entitled to his say, and I'm glad he's saying it.

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Post by russiandoll on 05.05.13 0:03

candyfloss wrote:Just been on Sky news press review last item only 2 mins on it. The chappie reviewing, said at the end of the article it says Clarence Mitchell declined to comment, but makes it clear the McCanns are very happy the way SY are carrying out the investigation. So no comment from CM on going back to Portugal then.


Clarrie may be too busy packing for the journey back to comment.

a bolt out of the blue, and the couple must have been shell shocked to hear about it, no doubt it played a part in the massive stress showing on their faces.

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Post by Newintown on 05.05.13 0:04

It just goes to show how out of touch some of the TV news people are. I've just been watching the review of tomorrow's front pages on Sky News and the person commenting Vincent ??? said that Madeleine disappeared in SPAIN. For God's sake, after 6 years of never ending stories in the news and TV you would think he would know by now that it was Portugal not Spain. I really do despair at these highly paid, totally ignorant people commenting on things they know nothing about or have no interest in.

Probably the same can be said about LK and Tony Parsons, do they write their own columns or does someone else write it for them? If someone else writes it on their behalf no doubt they have no actual interest in the McCanns or Madeleine, it's just done for show and TV ratings. I'm glad I'm not in the McCanns' shoes, they may be very near to finding out who their real friends are and who may desert them at the final hour. Will LK hang around and hang on to their every word if things go pear shaped, I very much doubt it.

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Post by russiandoll on 05.05.13 0:07

@Newintown wrote:It just goes to show how out of touch some of the TV news people are. I've just been watching the review of tomorrow's front pages on Sky News and the person commenting Vincent ??? said that Madeleine disappeared in SPAIN. For God's sake, after 6 years of never ending stories in the news and TV you would think he would know by now that it was Portugal not Spain. I really do despair at these highly paid, totally ignorant people commenting on things they know nothing about or have no interest in.

just made the same comment, so sloppy...

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Post by pennylane on 05.05.13 0:11

Six long years of hustling the masses.... only to be right back where they started!

It's no wonder the gruesome twosome appeared so bedraggled and tormented....

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Post by aiyoyo on 05.05.13 0:18

@russiandoll wrote:agree aiyoyo and why I am waiting for Petermac to explain how they could refuse to cooperate.

Reviewer on Sky just said the disappearance was from Spain....oops.
and at the end of the article CM has said

the McCanns are very happy with the way the Met are conducting the review.

Far as I interpret it, PM is not saying anything about their right to refuse or not if and when the Police summoned them.
He was referring to Mccanns' instigated lawsuits, explaining why lawyers refused to allow them anywhere near a witness box under any circumstances regardless for obvious reason.

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Post by tasprin on 05.05.13 0:29

Did the McCanns give the Star their inappropriate 'exclusive' about little April Jones to counteract Robert Murat's 'exclusive' in the Express? Very strange goings-on at the moment.

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Post by sharonl on 05.05.13 0:32

Is this reconstruction likely to be a proper one carried out by the Portuguese Police or a Crime Watch style, filmed reconstruction as once suggested by the McCanns?

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