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Post by tigger on 07.04.13 8:38

This is well worth a read even though it's Daily Mail! Gagging - not only the press but telling people what evidence they are allowed to submit!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298248/Diplomat-banned-talking-Dr-David-Kelly-Iraq-Inquiry.html


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Post by Guest on 07.04.13 9:47

@tigger wrote:This is well worth a read even though it's Daily Mail! Gagging - not only the press but telling people what evidence they are allowed to submit!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298248/Diplomat-banned-talking-Dr-David-Kelly-Iraq-Inquiry.html


Very interesting read tigger, I remember watching & reading about David Kelly's death, and thinking somethings not right he's been silenced, also the refusal to have another inquest it just stinks to high heaven.

I watched the Chilcott enquiry on TV, I would have liked to have been one of the protesters outside the enquiry calling Blair a war criminal and his partner in crime Bush.

Telling people what they can or cannot say is unbelievable a complete whitewash. Just going to read it again.

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Post by plebgate on 07.04.13 18:43

a comment from the link re. article:

"Shows just what a nonsense all these so-called 'independent' (and
certainly expensive) inquiries are. Public inquiries are held to reach
the conclusions that the establishment requires. They always do, and
they always will, and if 'evidence' which might introduce even a
scintilla of doubt about the pre-ordained result comes along, it won't
be permitted. Simples. Notch up another few million for the legal
profession, and let politicians glow in their undoubted, inquiry-proven
righteousness."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298248/Diplomat-banned-talking-Dr-David-Kelly-Iraq-Inquiry.html#ixzz2PngiA4lJ

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how right I feel that comment is. A clap for that poster.


I saw Bliar on tv the other night. He looked terrible. If that's what much money and power does for you then you can keep it afaiac. What a ghastly looking person he has become.


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Post by tigger on 07.04.13 20:04

From the Propaganda Matrix http://www.propagandamatrix.com/010903kellymurder.html

I received the following E mail from a Scottish journalist who works from a mainstream paper. I know his identity but he asked it not to be revealed. Suffice to say I have verified his name. It is up to the reader to discern whether the following information is accurate but it fits in with related information previously featured on this website. The E mail is edited for clarity.

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I'm a reader from Glasgow, Scotland in the United Kingdom. I'm a journalist and stand-up comedian and heard some bits and pieces from a BBC reporter who was on Tony Blair's far-east tour plane following Kelly's death.

A conversation was overheard by this BBC reporter between Tony Blair and his press secretary Alistair Campbell. The conversation was heard folowing the press conference when Blair was asked if he had Dr Kelly's blood on his hands and Blair froze and didn't answer.

Campbell, a notorious ranter was heard to say: "What the fuck was that, you know the line on this, what were you doing, why didn't you answer." Blair's response was inaudible and Campbell was then heard to say: "This is what you wanted, you asked for this so play the game Tony." Since then Blair continually trotted out the line about waiting for the Inquiry before commenting.

Normally in the UK Public Inquiries take months and months before they start but this one was pushed through quickly because Tony Blair is apparantly on the verge of cracking. Campbell needs to get this over and done with ASAP and then have Chancellor Gordon Brown installed as Prime Minister before the end of the Year and give him plenty of time to get the people on his side before the 2005 elections.

Secondly a contact of mine, a former MI6 spook, was speaking about the circumstances of Kelly's death. He said he's been taught how to "make anything look like anything" and said that there must have been some kind of struggle at the scene of Kelly's death. He said it was sloppy work that Kelly's body was found with enough pills for an overdose but hadn't ingested them, he said that should have been removed from the scene under normal procedure. He added "You can slit someone's wrists and make it look like suicide easily but it's a lot harder to make someone swallow tablets." He also said the heart monitor pads found on Kelly's chest were "simply there to make sure he was dead." He also said those should have been removed and suspects the agents involved were disturbed by someone in the process of the killing.

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Post by Lance De Boils on 07.04.13 21:27

I wonder how genuine the writer of that email is? We'll never know, but I would not be surprised if the content is for real. The whole Dr Kelly case stinks to high heaven.

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Post by PeterMac on 07.04.13 22:10

The Constant Gardener.

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Post by tigger on 08.04.13 8:08

From: http://www.globalresearch.ca/suspicious-death-of-dr-david-kelly-doctors-seek-new-death-inquest

DOCTORS SEEK DAVID KELLY DEATH INQUEST – NEW APPLICATION TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

I am one of the doctors who have been fighting for an inquest into the suspicious death of Dr David Kelly in July 2003, pointing out that due process of the law has been subverted by four successive UK governments, including the present, by their not allowing, using a variety of highly dubious tactics, the legally required inquest to take place.

Because of the increasingly obvious anxiety, even desperation, of successive governments to block a formal inquest and the disingenuous reasons given for not holding an inquest, many fear that there has been a cover-up of epic proportions and many others have wondered what it is that is so important to hide that precludes an inquest taking place.
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Rest of long article on above link. The bolded line could equally well apply to the McCann case. One wonders what is going on in British Justice and what is so important that governments from opposing parties would act in this way.


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Post by jd on 15.07.13 1:13

Revealed: How a Blair fixer picked the judge for the David Kelly Inquiry just three hours after the weapons inspector's suicide

PUBLISHED: 22:51, 13 July 2013 | UPDATED: 16:49, 14 July 2013


A previously unpublished document which reinforces claims that the investigation into the death of Dr David Kelly was an establishment ‘whitewash’ has been obtained by The Mail on Sunday.

A letter written by Lord Hutton, who chaired the public inquiry into Dr Kelly’s death, shows he was asked to do the job just three hours after the Iraq weapons expert was found dead.

At that point he had not been identified and no cause of death had been established.

Hutton was contacted by Lord Falconer, Tony Blair’s former flatmate who was Lord Chancellor and played a key role in the events leading up to the Iraq War, and the handling of Dr Kelly’s death.

The letter has come to light as campaigners prepare to mount a silent vigil in London on Thursday to mark the tenth anniversary of Dr Kelly’s death.

It is the latest – and most striking – evidence of the extraordinary haste with which the Blair Government set up an inquiry to replace the usual coroner’s inquest.

Dr Kelly’s body was found on the morning of July 18, 2003, in woods close to his Oxfordshire home, shortly after he was exposed as the source of a BBC news report questioning the grounds for war in Iraq.


Lord Hutton was contacted just three hours after the death of the weapons inspector

Critics have never been satisfied with the conclusions of the Hutton Inquiry, which decided that Dr Kelly, 59, who worked for the Ministry of Defence, died from loss of blood after cutting his wrist with a blunt gardening knife.

Thursday’s vigil, to be held outside the High Court in London, will highlight the fact that no coroner’s inquest has ever been held into his death. There have been claims Hutton’s suicide verdict was flawed and failed to take account of key medical and other evidence. Some claim it was part of a cover-up.

A decade after Dr Kelly was found dead, Mr Blair remains acutely sensitive to the accusation that he has ‘blood on his hands’ over the death.

Lord Hutton’s letter to Lib Dem MP Norman Baker states: ‘On July 18, 2003, I was telephoned to my room in the House of Lords .  .  . I do not remember the precise time but my recollection is that it was about noon .  .  . I think the Lord Chancellor [Falconer] spoke to me and asked me to come to see him in his room in the Lords [where] he asked me to conduct an inquiry into the death of Dr David Kelly and I agreed to do so.’

According to police records, the 999 call to report the discovery of a body had been made barely three hours earlier, at 9.20am.

In addition, a Freedom of Information response from the Cabinet Office details two phone calls made that day, between Mr Blair, en route from Washington to Tokyo, and Lord Falconer.

They spoke between 12.10pm and 12.13pm and again between 12.20pm and 12.25pm – the time when, according to Hutton’s letter, he was being appointed by Falconer. Although the details of the conversations have not been disclosed, the timing suggests Falconer may have consulted Blair on his choice of Hutton to lead the inquiry.

Having secured Hutton, Falconer used an obscure law to replace  a coroner’s inquest with the non-statutory public inquiry.

Police records show that by  midday on July 18, the only medical professionals who had viewed  Dr Kelly’s body on Harrowdown Hill were experienced ambulance crew members Vanessa Hunt and Dave Bartlett.



Hutton was contacted by Lord Falconer (left), Tony Blair's (right) former flatmate who was Lord Chancellor and played a key role in the handling of Dr Kelly's death

Both have voiced scepticism about the manner of his death, saying there was very little blood when they arrived, not an amount consistent with a wrist slashed by a knife, and believe his body was moved after the volunteer searchers found it but before they saw it.

Many senior medical professionals have also argued that Dr Kelly could not have bled to death by severing the tiny artery he apparently cut with his blunt knife.

Lord Falconer was also involved in the decision to overrule warnings that the war could be illegal.

The organiser of Thursday’s protest, retired NHS worker Margaret Hindle, said: ‘I’m motivated by civic duty and respect for the law.

I’ve long felt there was something suspicious about Dr Kelly’s death and the fact there hasn’t ever been a full inquest. I want to help secure one. Anyone is welcome to join us from 2pm to 4pm on Thursday.’

Neither Lord Falconer nor Lord Hutton was available for comment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362659/Revealed-How-Blair-fixer-picked-judge-David-Kelly-Inquiry-just-hours-weapons-inspectors-suicide.html

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Post by tigger on 15.07.13 6:08

Thank you! I didn't follow the case when it happened so read up about it recently. The official story doesn't hold water imo.

No wonder Blair is worried about it. He's got blood on his hands anyway but this is too close to home. Hans Blix, who inspected Iraq for the UN, said that there were no WMDs.
In fact at the end of his book he said with rare humour that Saddam was the kind of man who'd put up a sign saying 'Beware of the dog' without going to the expense of buying a dog.

Blair is an evil puppet and always has been. The false flags and cover-ups are known as 'the noble lie'. They can fool themselves that we simple souls cannot understand the need for such 'sacrifices'.

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Post by aiyoyo on 15.07.13 11:51

If there's ground for suspicions an inquest should take place to clear the suspicions once and for all.

If Tony Blair has nothing to hide, he should champion the lobby or join the campaign to push for such an inquest.

His silence speaks volume.

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Post by Guest on 15.07.13 11:54

Something the size of the Tardis would be needed to hold all the nasty secrets that Tony Blair doesn't want anyone to know about.

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Post by jd on 15.07.13 12:01

Foul play vs suicide: Ten years on, the row still rages over the death of Dr David Kelly
SUNDAY 14 JULY 2013
The weapons expert's body was discovered in lonely woodland – wrists slashed – but journalist Miles Goslett has always pushed for an inquest. He goes head-to-head with John Rentoul of The IoS, who insists that Dr Kelly killed himself, as Lord Hutton found, and that to think otherwise is to believe a ridiculous and tasteless fairy story

Dear John

We have never met, but I know that articles I have written in the past about the death of Dr David Kelly have prompted you to inform your Twitter followers that I am a "Daily Mail conspiracy theorist".

That's a lazy cliché if ever there was one.

I simply believe it is necessary to have a full coroner's inquest into Dr Kelly's death. The law decrees that any sudden or violent death should be examined by a coroner ... it has been this way for hundreds of years.

A coroner must satisfy themself "beyond reasonable doubt" that the suicide was the result of an intended act. The standard of proof required is deliberately high.

In the case of Dr Kelly, the then Oxfordshire coroner Nicholas Gardiner opened an inquest on 21 July 2003, but on 13 August 2003 the then Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer ordered it to be adjourned indefinitely.

Falconer used an obscure law to suspend proceedings, and in a very unusual – perhaps unique – move he replaced the inquest with a non-statutory public inquiry. Lord Hutton, a 72-year-old Law Lord with no coronial experience, was asked to chair the inquiry... within two hours and 40 minutes of Dr Kelly's body being found on Harrowdown Hill on 18 July, long before it had even been established officially whose body it was.

The inquest into his death was replaced by a politically appointed examination of the "circumstances surrounding" his death.

This was improper.

Experienced doctors and senior legal figures – including Appeal Court judges – remain uneasy about the lack of an inquest.

Questions have also been raised about the safety of the police investigation.

Best wishes

Miles


Dear Miles

I understand that anyone should be concerned about David Kelly's death, and I think it was reasonable at the time to consider the possibility of foul play. However, any reasonable person would have ruled out such a possibility after a cursory review of the facts, let alone a months-long public inquiry.

So when you say you "simply believe it is necessary to have a full coroner's inquest", you are not "simply" doing any such thing. You are saying that there was a serious possibility that Dr Kelly was murdered. If you are not saying that, then let us agree that he took his own life and we can close this correspondence without intruding further into this sad story.

The only reason you want an inquest is that you think that the Hutton inquiry dealt unsatisfactorily with the cause of death, and the only reason this could matter would be if Dr Kelly had been murdered. This would have involved kidnapping him in his home, where his wife was, stealing his wife's painkillers, releasing him again so that he could greet a neighbour on the way to the woods, and then killing him to make it look like suicide.

This is preposterous, offensive and probably disturbing to Dr Kelly's family, who have not asked a bunch of conspiracy theorists to poke their noses into their business. I suggest you desist.

Best wishes

John

Dear John

Despite the circumstances in which the late Wales football manager Gary Speed was found in 2011, when a coroner investigated his death he refused to reach a suicide finding because he could not prove intent.

In short, coroners – not Law Lords – pronounce on deaths because they are independent and willing to bare their teeth if necessary.

You seem to reject this centuries-old precedent in the case of Dr Kelly. Why is it "offensive" to raise questions when they arise? How do you know that the Kelly family is content that there has not been an inquest? For whom do you speak?

Your position is illogical because if you "know" that Dr Kelly killed himself, you presumably also "know" what the outcome of an inquest would be. In which case, what do you fear?

Since I began working on this story in 2008, I have discovered that all medical and scientific records relating to Dr Kelly were secretly sealed for 70 years; that six personal items found with his body were tested by police for fingerprints and DNA but none was found – yet this fact was not mentioned at the Hutton inquiry and Dr Kelly was not wearing gloves when found. Foul play cannot be ruled out.

All the best

Miles


Dear Miles

Foul play cannot be ruled out? Of course it can, as I have explained, and to say otherwise puts you in the company of cranks. As usual with conspiracy theorists, you adopt the device of saying, "I am only asking a question". Indeed, you ask several, one of them personal and offensive. If you would like to tell me for whom you think I speak, I should be happy to deal with specifics rather than insinuation.

A public inquiry serves all the purposes an inquest could. The burden is on those who want an inquest to explain why they think it is required. The reason the post-mortem report was closed for 70 years was to protect the family from "further and unnecessary distress", as Lord Hutton explained, but he then asked that it be published so that conspiracy theorists would stop pretending that there was something secret about it. You appear not to know about this; others of your fellow conspiracy theorists have given up and gone home; others still have done what conspiracy theorists usually do and changed the question.

As for the fingerprints, I don't know and I don't care. The only reason you have for mentioning them is, as I have explained, that you think it a serious possibility that Dr Kelly was murdered. Perhaps you will now supply some evidence to support this fantastic notion.

Best wishes

John

Dear John

Examining evidence is the key to exploring any theory.

Dr Kelly was last seen at about 3pm on 17 July; his body was found about 18 hours later. No one knows exactly what happened in between. You say you "don't care" about the fingerprint matter I raised. Why so dismissive? Not only is the lack of prints of interest, so is the fact of their absence never being mentioned at Hutton.

You suggest I'm being "offensive". All I have done is ask for whom you speak. Why are you so reluctant to explain why your mind is closed to the idea of an inquest? If you speak for nobody but yourself, surely you can say so.

The point about the 70-year classification is that Hutton never mentioned it in his 2004 report. It was revealed six years later. He advised that the PM report be published only because he was forced to.

Finally, you suggest it is up to me to provide evidence that Dr Kelly was murdered. That is absurd. It is up to the state to treat Dr Kelly's death as all other unnatural deaths are treated and hold an inquest. I'd have thought anyone who really wanted to settle this matter properly would have seen that long ago. Yet successive governments have been resistant. In opposition, Attorney General Dominic Grieve was sympathetic to an inquest. In government, a year later, he rejected the idea.

Inquests and public inquiries have very different standards. I know which is more rigorous.

The catalogue of lies and cover-ups from so many organisations in recent years surely suggests we should all be sceptical of "official" findings.

Miles


Dear Miles

I am sorry that you continue to make a fool of yourself, and should point out that you have not responded to the point I made in my first response that your theory requires David Kelly to have been abducted from his home, where his wife was, released to greet a neighbour and then murdered. All the rest of your detail that "may be important" is irrelevant until you can get past that first barrier to credibility.

The death of Dr Kelly has been investigated, in public, in far more detail than most suicides. All the circumstances are consistent with suicide. A private man had put himself in the public eye, having caused the BBC to publish a report that he knew was wrong; he had denied the words of an interview with another BBC journalist, Susan Watts, which had been tape recorded; and he felt his career was at an end.

As I explained in our previous correspondence, of course I speak only for myself. For whom do you think I speak? I have dealt with the 70-year point, about which you did not know the basic facts and have now changed the question.

Until you can explain why any reasonable person should suspect foul play in the death of Dr Kelly, I suggest that you should join the big names who have tiptoed away in embarrassment from this ridiculous and tasteless fairy story.

Best wishes, as ever

John

Dear John

The ridiculous "abduction" scenario you propound is not worthy of response. But do reread Janice Kelly's evidence to Hutton carefully. It is revealing. People used to think Hillsborough had been investigated properly. This case still needs a coroner.

You call Dr Kelly a "private man". But he invited a TV crew into his home to give an interview the month before he died, so he wasn't that private.

I broke the 70-year story. I know all about it.

Many people have doubts about this affair and would simply like an inquest to be held.

All best

Miles


Dear Miles

I have indeed reread Mrs Kelly's evidence. It is very sad. She described her husband as "desperate", "distracted and dejected", and said: "I just thought he had a broken heart." I would hope that you would show more respect to Dr Kelly's family, who have not said that they are unhappy with the findings of the Hutton inquiry.

You say you would "simply like an inquest to be held". There is nothing simple about it: the only reason for wanting an inquest is that you think Dr Kelly might have been murdered, and that Lord Hutton, Tony Blair, Mrs Kelly and the present Attorney General, who refused the request for a new inquest, are all involved in a huge cover-up. I am disappointed that I cannot bring you to see how silly that is.

Best wishes

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/foul-play-vs-suicide-ten-years-on-the-row-still-rages-over-the-death-of-dr-david-kelly-8707517.html

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Post by tigger on 15.07.13 16:10

My goodness! That exchange is so revealing. Has Rentoul had a look at 'The New Machiavelli'?.

This correspondence shows that he is using the classic counter-arguments and not answering the questions asked, as the correspondence progresses he has to resort to insults.

From Rentoul: opening with an impossible scenario which has not been proven!

The only reason you want an inquest is that you think that the Hutton inquiry dealt unsatisfactorily with the cause of death, and the only reason this could matter would be if Dr Kelly had been murdered. This would have involved kidnapping him in his home, where his wife was, stealing his wife's painkillers, releasing him again so that he could greet a neighbour on the way to the woods, and then killing him to make it look like suicide.

answer: with facts.

Dr Kelly was last seen at about 3pm on 17 July; his body was found about 18 hours later. No one knows exactly what happened in between. You say you "don't care" about the fingerprint matter I raised. Why so dismissive? Not only is the lack of prints of interest, so is the fact of their absence never being mentioned at Hutton.

and: from Goslett: more facts.

Since I began working on this story in 2008, I have discovered that all medical and scientific records relating to Dr Kelly were secretly sealed for 70 years; that six personal items found with his body were tested by police for fingerprints and DNA but none was found – yet this fact was not mentioned at the Hutton inquiry and Dr Kelly was not wearing gloves when found. Foul play cannot be ruled out.

answer from Rentoul now resorting to insult and ridicule.
Foul play cannot be ruled out? Of course it can, as I have explained, and to say otherwise puts you in the company of cranks. As usual with conspiracy theorists, you adopt the device of saying, "I am only asking a question". Indeed, you ask several, one of them personal and offensive. If you would like to tell me for whom you think I speak, I should be happy to deal with specifics rather than insinuation.

I can't see anything offensive or personal in the questions asked by Goslett, whereas Rentoul has patently had to resort to insult.

This style of answer is very like David Smith from the Times Online, an ardent fan of the McCanns to the extend of being 'briefed' by Gerry. That is journalism?
Rentoul can't hold a debate, he has no counter arguments just insults.

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Post by Guest on 15.07.13 17:37

The bit that jumps out at me is "having caused the BBC to publish a report that he knew was wrong" - no, his belief that the report into Iraq's "weapons of mass destruction" was exaggerated was correct. They, like Bundle Man and Co, were entirely imaginary!

It's very much like trying to have a debate with a McCann supporter though at least Mr Rentoul isn't as foul-mouthed as they usually are.

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Post by sheila.edwards on 15.07.13 21:37

Dr Kelly, appeared to be a conscientious gentleman.Im sure if he thought any of his reports had been over exaggerated he would make it known.His family loss must have been very difficult for them.imp.

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Post by Guest on 15.07.13 22:21

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly Sheila.

We had all the Tony Blair hoo-hah that Iraq had to be dealt with because they had "weapons of mass destruction" which could be launched with 45 minutes.

David Kelly - as a government weapons expert - allowed it to be leaked via a BBC reporter that he felt that the report was exaggerated - or in the immortal tabloid phrase "sexed up".

This of course caused Tony Blair to turn into a venom-spitting hellcat, bent on revenge and, as so often happens with people in high places, everyone except the guilty was punished.

David Kelly was proved to be right - there were no WMD in Iraq and that loathsome creature Tony Blair must have been aware of that.

I think that it is possible that David Kelly, having been publicly humiliated for telling the truth and knowing that he would be sacked and left penniless without a pension, did commit suicide.

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Post by sheila.edwards on 15.07.13 22:50

Sorry meant, he would have IMO let it be know internally 1st maybe many times and failed then, in determined  frustration may have leaked info. and his feelings of exagerations made,by only way possible for him at the time, via BBC.in my prayers.

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Post by Guest on 18.07.13 13:14

Ten years ago today, Dr Kelly's body was found. The subsequent cover-up is one of the great scandals of our age

By Stephen Glover

PUBLISHED: 00:31, 18 July 2013  | UPDATED: 00:31, 18 July


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2367671/STEPHEN-GLOVER-Ten-years-ago-today-Dr-Kellys-body-The-subsequent-cover-great-scandals-age.html#ixzz2ZOldiHgd


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There are many anomalies, inconsistencies and dark passages in this story — so many that I have to pinch myself to remember that it did not happen in China or Russia but in Britain, where the rule of law, and decency, are supposed to prevail.

An inquest did open into Dr Kelly’s death, on July 21, 2003. But three weeks later, the then Lord Chancellor, Lord Falconer, ordered it to be adjourned indefinitely.

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Post by Guest on 18.07.13 13:28

This article does reflect my views that David Kelly was hounded to his death, rather than that he was murdered.

Just one of Tony Blair's many victims.

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Post by Guest on 18.07.13 13:34

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:This article does reflect my views that David Kelly was hounded to his death, rather than that he was murdered.

Just one of Tony Blair's many victims.

This has to be explained though....

Freedom of Information requests carried out since Lord Hutton’s inquiry have established that there were no fingerprints on the five items found by Dr Kelly’s body, including the knife. No gloves were found on his body, or in the vicinity.

One theory is that spooks arriving to find Dr Kelly dead cleaned up the crime scene, and tampered with the evidence. That possibility obviously prompts a new set of disturbing questions
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Post by jd on 19.07.13 0:56

As does why bliar phone Hutton within 3 hours to head the inquiry when his death had not been identified and no cause of death had been established.....Kind of says it all really

As does "The law decrees that any sudden or violent death should be examined by a coroner ... it has been this way for hundreds of years."...In this solitary case the law has been ignored...WHY!!!

Doesn't take much to figure out why

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Hutton,_Baron_Hutton   Looks like if you need a cover up he is your man.

Just look at bliar's reaction when asked about Kelly, see it with your own eyes...Look also at he totally ignored the million who protested against the NWO war in Iraq


Look at him SQUIRM!

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Post by Who?What?Where? on 19.07.13 2:47

I think some people like Blair and Bush, Saville and Hall, have actually derived a perverted kind of pleasure, from deceiving people about what they were really up to, and how long they have managed to get away with it.

They are truly sick mind's, who seem incapable of accepting any, meaningful,  responsibility for their own action's. Their focus is alway's upon their own self preservation.

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Post by Who?What?Where? on 19.07.13 3:04

The lack of humility that these sort of people display, mark's them out for what they really are.

There can be no escape from that. They have condemned themselve's.

Spin doctor's can change the public perception, but only over a , relatively, short term.

No amount of spin doctor's can change what you really are.

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Post by tigger on 19.07.13 5:53

It was pointed out to me once that polls showed that over 70% of the British population was against invading Iraq.

Over 70% of inhabitants of Iraq were content with Saddam.

So how exactly was invading a Iraq a democratic decision? When the majority is against?

Tony Blair has said that if they hadn't had the WMDs they'd have to have thought of something else. (I'd love to find the exact quote)

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Post by Guest on 19.07.13 9:15

JD, I'll have to take your word for it about Tony Blair's reaction in the video clip - I can't bear to watch this lying toad (apologies to any amphibians who might be offended), smug in the knowledge that whatever he says and does, he is immune from prosecution. Hmm, there seems to be a couple like that too.......

If there had been an inquest into David Kelly's death, surely it would just have been a whitewash too?

I'm thinking of the inquests for the 7/7 victims - people were produced claiming to have been on the train from Luton with the "bombers" - yes, that's right, the train that was cancelled.

What chance is there of them being charged with perjury? Not a great one, I feel.

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