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April Jones. Search to end + Mark Bridger trial starts today 29/4/2013

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Post by rainbow-fairy on 30.05.13 19:48

So quick! Obviously not got money and influential friends...

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Post by Guest on 30.05.13 19:50

April Jones: Bridger 'Confessed' To Priest

Bridger apparently confided in a prison chaplain while he was on remand at Strangeways - but the jury was never told.


http://news.sky.com/story/1097434/april-jones-bridger-confessed-to-priest

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Post by littlepixie on 30.05.13 20:00

I had a feeling he had confessed right at the beginning.

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Post by aiyoyo on 30.05.13 20:26

So the catholic priest he confided in betrayed him!

And I thought Catholic Priest is not allowed to divulge regardless whether confession was made in a box or not; after all there is no such thing as a confessional box inside a prison.


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Post by Guest on 30.05.13 20:31

If it was not a Catholic priest, but a Presbytarian, a COE ... there's no "secret" of confession, as it doesn't exist there ...

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Post by Guest on 30.05.13 22:31

It does say in the article that it was a Catholic priest.

I've watched one of the special programmes on the case. It does seem to me that nobody could have foreseen that this could happen. There was nothing in Bridger's public persona that gave warning that he was capable of doing anything so awful.

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Post by PeterMac on 30.05.13 23:04

He was a Catholic Priest but the 'confession' was not within the sanctity and secrecy of the Confessional, so he is not able to refuse to speak.
In English law incidentally a Catholic Priest is not permitted to to refuse to testify. They are compelled to do so.
But it is recognised that they will then refuse, and will be sent to prison for that contempt.[/b]
Interesting that the prosecution chose not to bother with it. The so-called confession did not add anything to the case.

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Post by aiyoyo on 31.05.13 4:58

@PeterMac wrote:He was a Catholic Priest but the 'confession' was not within the sanctity and secrecy of the Confessional, so he is not able to refuse to speak.
In English law incidentally a Catholic Priest is not permitted to to refuse to testify. They are compelled to do so.
But it is recognised that they will then refuse, and will be sent to prison for that contempt.[/b]
Interesting that the prosecution chose not to bother with it. The so-called confession did not add anything to the case.

You mean even if the confession was made within sanctity and secrecy of the Confessional, a Catholic Priest is still obliged to comply with the Police by UK law. Interesting!

The Police must have made use of that info nonetheless since they spent a lot of time searching the river as it was said he told the Priest he dumped the body into the River.

Did Police at this post verdict stage leak the "Priest" info to the Press or where did the press get hold of such info - strange.

That he was a social person friendly popular and whatever did not make an ounce of difference because psychopaths or sociopaths are capable of masking their private persona well in some cases.

We know of another case where the mother is suspected of having this disorder. But she also happens to be from a different social class and manages to build a shield surrounding her (so far).


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Post by PeterMac on 31.05.13 7:03

@aiyoyo wrote:
You mean even if the confession was made within sanctity and secrecy of the Confessional, a Catholic Priest is still obliged to comply with the Police by UK law. Interesting !
That is the law. But the observance is different. The prosecution recognises that the Priest will refuse, and if necessary will go to prison, so they don't bother.

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Post by tiny on 31.05.13 9:34

Did any one manage to watch Jim Gamble, all I caught he wassaying about some one was hiding in plain sight,dont know if he was referring to MB or other people

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Post by aiyoyo on 31.05.13 9:53

This case in question, although the prosecution did not use the Priest to testify, the fact remains the Priest broke the Code of sacred covenant if the Press is to be believed.

One would have thought a Catholic Priest is forbidden by their Faith Silence Code to divulge irrespective that he's required under the country's law to attend Police interview.

Also, for argument sake, one would have thought if the confession was not made within sanctity of confessional, the Priest would have and should have pre-warned confessioner that his confession is not within confine of secrecy of confessional.






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Post by Guest on 31.05.13 10:17

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-21506482

An article about the concept of murder trials without a body.

The earliest one I remember - and it seemed incredible to me - was that of Muriel McKay at the end of 1969.

http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/mckay-kidnapping/crime.html

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Post by Guest on 31.05.13 10:43


Our indescribable pain


- Family torn apart by sickening crime
- Parents' love for 'brave little fighter'
- Dignity as April killer jailed forever



APRIL Jones’ devastated mother told yesterday how the pain of losing her beautiful five-year-old girl was “indescribable”.


Heartbroken Coral, 43, said: “I will never see her smile again or hear her stomping around upstairs.

“We will never see her bring home her first boyfriend and Paul will never walk her down the aisle. How will we ever get over it?”

MUM'S HEARTBREAK STATEMENT
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4949077/Our-indescribable-pain.html

Worlds apart from KM, GM




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Post by Guest on 31.05.13 10:59

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-21506482

An article about the concept of murder trials without a body.

The earliest one I remember - and it seemed incredible to me - was that of Muriel McKay at the end of 1969.

[url=http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/mckay-kidnapping/crime.html
http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/mckay-kidnapping/crime.html[/quote[/url]]

i remember this too NFWTD, there were rumours at the time that Mrs McKay had been eaten by pigs, guess we'll never know.

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Post by Guest on 09.07.13 7:52

April Jones: Mark Bridger Attacked In Prison

The man jailed for life for abducting and murdering five-year-old April Jones is attacked by another prisoner at HMP Wakefield

Child killer Mark Bridger has been attacked by a fellow prisoner less than two months into his whole life sentence.

The 47-year-old, who was jailed in May for abducting and murdering schoolgirl April Jones, was slashed with a makeshift blade during the attack at HMP Wakefield in West Yorkshire.

He reportedly suffered facial injuries and was taken to a local hospital where he was given stitches.

A spokesman for Her Majesty's Prison Service confirmed a prisoner had been injured and taken to hospital during the attack, which is now being investigated by the police

Bridger kidnapped April before sexually abusing and murdering her and disposing of her body last October.

He was given a whole life sentence by judge Mr Justice Griffith Williams after a jury found him guilty following a month-long trial.

April had been playing with friends close to her home on the Bryn-y-Gog estate in Machynlleth, Powys, when Bridger enticed her into his car.

Following his arrest, detectives found numerous indecent images on his computer.

HMP Wakefield is a high-security prison which houses an average of 740 male inmates, many of whom are serious sex offenders

http://news.sky.com/story/1113233/april-jones-mark-bridger-attacked-in-prison

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Post by plebgate on 09.07.13 8:02

What has happened to him is nothing compared to what he did to little April, leave him to rot and any others like him imo.


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Post by PeterMac on 09.07.13 8:10

The press are still saying there was no body.
They are missing the point.
In some cases there are no traces of a body, whatsoever - see above, Mrs McKay - except perhaps an alert by a cadaver dog - see previous cases
In this case there were remains, bone, fragment of skull, and lots of blood, sufficient to identify the girl.
The fact that the rest of the body was disposed of, (bones in the wood burning stove, and probably the flesh stripped off and taken out into the country in the black bin liner, to be disposed of in the river, or by natural fauna,) is not the same thing.

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Post by sallypelt on 09.07.13 12:21

@plebgate wrote:What has happened to him is nothing compared to what he did to little April, leave him to rot and any others like him imo.


Awww, bless!!! I hope he hasn't suffered anything trivial

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Post by Nina on 09.07.13 17:33

@sallypelt wrote:
@plebgate wrote:What has happened to him is nothing compared to what he did to little April, leave him to rot and any others like him imo.


Awww, bless!!! I hope he hasn't suffered anything trivial  

Sad thing is no matter how much he suffers it doesn't lessen at all the suffering that little girl went through till she took her final releasing breathe. I hope he lives to be 100 and suffers every day of his life and that his final breathe takes him to a far worse place than his hell on earth.

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Post by Guest on 21.07.13 19:08

http://news.sky.com/story/1118505/tia-sharps-father-backs-child-abuse-image-ban
 
I see that the Jones family was at Downing Street last week - certainly not the in-your-face coverage that a visit by a certain other couple would have generated. 
 
I am at least grateful that one or both of them didn't barge in!

On second thoughts, they would not want to gate-crash cases like this which demonstrate the almost inevitability of a child's fate at the hands of a paedophile. No being treated like a princess......

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Post by PeterMac on 21.07.13 22:59

Talking about child Sexual abuse imagery on the internet, I suspect, given Cameron's coming out against Google et al tonight.


Will they include books about the same thing, and withdraw them from the shelves, or cut out the offending pages ?

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Post by Guest on 22.07.13 9:29

Not that I want to think about such things, but surely books with explicit child images would not be in sale in ordinary shops?

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