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Amanda Knox Retrial? * UPDATE* Trial to go ahead, acquittal overturned

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Post by Guest on 25.03.13 7:33

Foxy Knoxy faces court ruling today on murder retrial as Meredith Kercher's sister says hearing must address 'unanswered questions'




  • Knox and Raffaele Sollecito will find out if they are to stand trial again
  • Meredith Kercher's sister Stephanie hopes for answers
  • Knox has written a book about her trial and has an ABC interview ahead of it's release next month



By Mail Foreign Service

PUBLISHED: 17:02, 24 March 2013 | UPDATED: 02:20, 25 March 2013

Yesterday Meredith’s sister Stephanie said: ‘There are lots of questions without answers and that’s why we are looking for the truth.


‘We miss Meredith terribly and nothing will bring her back.


‘We hope that the supreme court hearing will help to find some answers to what happened that night.

‘We still get messages of support from all over the world. Meredith will never be forgotten but it’s also important not to forget what happened, a beautiful young girl, my little sister, taken away from us too early in a brutal manner, with many aspects to still clarify.’


Knox, 25, and Sollecito, 29 tomorrow, are said to be anxiously awaiting the outcome of the hearing in Rome. The case will be decided purely on paperwork and legal documents with no new witness evidence and neither Knox nor Sollecito will be in court.

Since returning to Seattle after serving four years of her sentence, Knox has written a book about her imprisonment and is due to give an interview to American TV station ABC next month ahead of its release

Judges will rule whether their are grounds for a new trial or if the case against them should uphold the appeal verdict of October 2011 which cleared them of the murder after they had initially been found guilty in 2009, with Knox getting 26 years and Sollecito, 25 years in jail.

The case made headlines around the world amid tales of sex games and drugs and there were traumatic scenes when they were convicted initially and when they were cleared after a fresh hearing heard how the police investigation had been bungled and was riddled with flaws.

Defence lawyers and experts acting for the pair revealed how evidence had been contaminated or poorly handled by forensic teams and that the conviction should be considered unsafe.

They were immediately freed with Knox returning to her home in Seattle while Sollecito went back to Bisceglie on the southern Italian coast near Bari.

Under Italian law there are three tiers of the judicial system and Monday's hearing in Rome will be behind closed doors with neither of them in attendance, with only their lawyers representing them.

A panel of judges will rule whether the Italian legal code was applied correctly and fairly in both trials and if they find grounds they can order a retrial - as prosecutors in Perugia have demanded - or they can close the case completely.

The case will be decided purely on paperwork and legal documents with no new witnesses giving evidence and neither of them will be in court.

Luciano Ghirga, Knox's lawyer, said: 'She is very anxious about the hearing but she is waiting for it knowing full well that the outcome is very important.'

Sollecito has also written a book and has already given an interview on Italian TV about the case where he said he and Knox were no longer lovers but they were still in touch. He visited her earlier this year and they speak on Skype regularly.

He is now studying in Verona and they have always insisted they are innocent of Leeds University student Meredith's murder. She had only been in Italy for two months before she was killed having arrived from Coulsdon for a year long course as part of her degree.

His father Francesco said: 'He is working hard on his studies. He's working on a project involving the movement of surgical instruments during operations. He is calm and serene even if we are all in a state of apprehension.'

During the investigation and trial, much was made of Knox's character, with prosecutors saying she was highly sexual and had manipulated Sollecito but her lawyers dismissed the theory.

Drifter Rudy Guede is serving 16 years for the murder having initially being sentenced to 30 but this was later reduced on appeal.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2298407/Foxy-Knoxy-faces-court-ruling-today-murder-retrial-Meredith-Kerchers-sister-says-hearing-address-unanswered-questions.html#ixzz2OXBEWr8i

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Post by Guest on 26.03.13 9:24

Re-trial to go ahead.........

26 March 2013 Last updated at 09:13







Amanda Knox faces Italy retrial over Kercher murder



Italy's highest court has ordered US student Amanda Knox and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito to face a retrial over the 2007 killing of Briton Meredith Kercher.

Miss Knox and Mr Sollecito spent four years in jail for murder but were freed on appeal in October 2011, largely on the grounds DNA evidence was flawed.

Prosecutors appealed and the Court of Cassation overturned the acquittals.

Rudy Guede was convicted in a separate trial and sentenced to 16 years.

The Ivory Coast national was found guilty of sexually assaulting and stabbing Ms Kercher. He admitted being at the house on the night of the killing in November 2007, but denies murder.

Meredith Kercher, from Coulsdon, south London, had been on a year abroad from Leeds University when she was found semi-naked in her bedroom and with her throat cut in the cottage she shared with Miss Knox.

Prosecutors believed she was killed in a brutal sex game that went wrong.

Addressing the court on Monday, they urged the judges to "make sure the final curtain does not drop on this shocking and dire crime".

Miss Knox's Italian lawyer, Luciano Ghirga, said on Monday her client was "very anxious" about the latest hearing.

Miss Knox lives in Seattle and a retrial is likely to take place in absentia, as the US is unlikely to extradite her, analysts say.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21936308

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Post by Guest on 26.03.13 9:33

Breaking: Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito will face re-trial over death of Meredith Kercher




Italy's highest criminal court has overturned the acquittal of Amanda Knox and has ordered a new trial

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/breaking-amanda-knox-and-raffaele-sollecito-will-face-retrial-over-death-of-meredith-kercher-8549373.html

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Post by russiandoll on 26.03.13 9:46

Good, because I have read about this case and believe that if not a participant in the murder, Knox witnessed what took place.

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Post by Guest on 26.03.13 11:34

I followed this case when it was ongoing, Amanda Knox's version of events never sat easy with me, when she was aquitted I remember thinking how has she got away it, and felt really sorry for Meridith Kercher's family. I hope they get all their unaswered questions answered, maybe this time there will be some justice for Meridiths famiy

Snipped from Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2299252/BREAKING-NEWS-Amanda-Knox-WILL-face-retrial-murder-British-student-Meredith-Kercher.html#ixzz2OdpnpCjB

The court is also hearing Knox's appeal against a slander conviction for having accused Patrick Lumumba, a local pub owner, of carrying out the killing. He was held for two weeks based on her allegations.

The day before his arrest on suspicion of Meredith Kercher's murder, Patrick Lumumba had been handing out flyers publicising a candlelit vigil in her memory.

Mr Lumumba, a well-known and popular figure in Perugia for a decade, was born in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

He is believed to be related to murdered Congolese prime minister Patrice Lumumba.

He arrived in Italy legally in 1988.

Married with a young child, he opened a bar and restaurant called Le Chic on a narrow street in Perugia town centre in August 2007.

The same month that Miss Kercher arrived to begin a short Italian course.

He employed her housemate Amanda Knox to help him with promotional work, before firing her for flirting with customers.

He believes Knox took her revenge by framing him for Miss Kercher's murder.

Mr Lumumba was arrested on suspicion of causing her death on November 6.

He spent two weeks in prison before being able to prove that he spent the night of the killing talking to a customer in his pub.

In 2009 he sued Knox for wrongly accusing him of the crime.

Knox has written a book about her imprisonment and is due to give an interview to Diane Sawyer for American TV station ABC next month ahead of its release.

Unanswered questions.

Laying the blame elsewhere.

Writing a book.

Reminds me of someone else

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Post by jozi on 26.03.13 11:45

@russiandoll wrote:Good, because I have read about this case and believe that if not a participant in the murder, Knox witnessed what took place.

Me too RD,

Could not understand how they were set free in the first trail, how will they get her back to Italy now though ?

How come they can have a retrial ???

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Post by Guest on 26.03.13 11:48

@russiandoll wrote:Good, because I have read about this case and believe that if not a participant in the murder, Knox witnessed what took place.
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That's what I think too, RD. She has "guilty knowledge" ...

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Post by aiyoyo on 26.03.13 13:28

Miss Knox lives in Seattle and a retrial is likely to take place in absentia, as the US is unlikely to extradite her, analysts say.

In a case of trial by absentia, should she found guilty and sentenced to jail, how is the Italian's Court verdict going to be enforced I wonder.
Can the Italian Court obliged USA to jail her in USA ? Hmmm...interesting!

I wonder how is this verdict going to affect the release of the book.
Surely the release, timed to happen after this counter-appeal ruling, is on the basis that the Appeal Court's decision will be upheld. Now that it is overturned, would this decision affect the sale negatively, or is the book going to fly off the shelves because people are going to be dead curious about the contents.
If there is prima facie basis for a retrial, it begs the question whether her book is just a "version of the truth" or a compendium of lies, just like that one of the mum of a missing child, I wonder.

If the book release is going ahead anyway it would interesting to see whether it is going to turn out to be a long suicide note, useful to the prosecutors.

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Post by lj on 26.03.13 13:35

Good!! That case is as rife with xenophobia from the American side as The Madeleine case is by the British. If she is not extradited the US shows (again) their biased attitude.

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Post by russiandoll on 26.03.13 13:38

Knox and Sollecito's convictions were overturned on appeal. The retrial consideration came about because there were questions from the prosecution about how that appeal was carried out. An appeal against the appeal.

from CNN news :

Prosecutors say that despite the appellate decision, they still believe Knox and her former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, are responsible for the death.




Prosecution plans to appeal Knox case





Knox's ex: We're like brother, sister





2012: Knox's life as a free woman





Knox: It's 'like everything isn't real'

"We are still convinced
that they are the co-authors of Meredith's homicide," Italian news
agency ANSA quoted Perugia, Italy, prosecutor Giovanni Galati as saying.

Knox, who is not in Italy
for the hearing, is confident in the Italian legal system and hopes one
day to return to Italy as a free woman, her lawyer, Luciano Ghirga,
said Monday.

If the acquittal is
overturned, the case will go back to an appellate court and Knox might
have to return to Italy. If she refuses, the Italian government could
appeal to the U.S. government for her extradition.

But even if it does, Knox still not might end up before an Italian court.

U.S. officials might
reject such a request because it violates the U.S. legal principle that a
criminal defendant can't be tried twice on the same allegation, said
Joey Jackson, a contributor for HLN's "In Session."

Italy lacks the absolute
prohibition present in U.S. law preventing authorities from retrying a
criminal defendant who has been acquitted of a charge.

"We have principles that
are well-founded within our Constitution, one of which is double
jeopardy," he said. "So as a result of that, I think it would be highly
objectionable for the United States to surrender someone to another
country for which justice has already been administered and meted out.
So I don't think or anticipate that that would happen."

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Post by lj on 26.03.13 16:15

She was never declared innocent: she was found guilty, and an appeal technicalities concerning evidence collection overturned that verdict, an decision which is overturned now again. So no double jeopardy here.

She probably loves this: another 15min make that 3 years in the limelight. Don't forget for narcissist even negative attention is good. Her name hasn't been in the news for quite a while so this ruling came just in time. Rounds on all the tv channels, interviews in magazines, book nr 2 in the making, life is good for Amanda.

The way criminals are being rewarded nowadays is sickening.

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Kercher case: Knox to fight 'wrongful' allegations

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21943947#

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Post by Hobs on 26.03.13 23:48



Tuesday, November 6, 2012








Amanda Knox Statement Analysis (repost)








by Peter Hyatt


Amanda Knox was convicted in the murder of Merideth Kercher (who died on Nov. 1, 2007) in Italy and has been incarcerated for the past 3 years. Recently, her case was given an opening for appeal: a review of DNA evidence.

Rudy Hermann Guede, a resident of Perugia, was convicted of the sexual assault and murder of Kercher and received a reduced sentence of 16 years after an appeal.

Raffaele Sollecito, an Italian student, and Amanda Knox, an American student who shared a flat with Kercher, were convicted of sexual assault and murder and sentenced to 26 years.

Amanda Knox has many supporters, and many who believe that police, prosecutorial and judicial improprieties have resulted in a wrongful conviction. Passionate arguments are made on both sides; those who seek justice for the victim's family, and those who believe that Amanda Knox was wrongfully convicted, and that her confession was coerced by Italian investigators.

Statement Analysis can get to the truth.

Statement Analysis, also called Scientific Content Analysis (SCAN) or Discourse Analysis, or Verbal Polygraphy, is a study of the words used, looking for deception. It has been taught to the FBI, most federal law enforcement agencies, police departments, prosecutors, Fortune 500 companies, investigators of all types, bill collectors, attorneys, therapists, and many more. It is used in Israel by the Mossad and other investigatory agencies, the former KGB, as well as many international law enforcement communities.

As a science, it is old, and is found in ancient literature, as exampled by King Solomon in 1 Kings, and is based upon two principles:

1. The rules of grammar
2. Observation

It is taught in native languages of various countries, and is best seen in some popular examples such as the Susan Smith case, where she was on television crying for her children, but spoke of them in the past tense, indicating to analysts that she knew her children were dead. It is also readily seen in cases such as OJ Simpson or Michael Jackson, Casey Anthony, and Drew Peterson.

The instructor who first introduced its study to the US is Avinoam Sapir, of the Laboratory of Scientific Interrogation (www.lsiscan.com) Most all instructors today owe their knowledge to him, including Dr. Susan Adams, who taught Statement analysis to the FBI. LSI continues to hold seminars and offers online training.

In law enforcement, a suspect is interviewed or interrogated and then a statement is typed up and he is asked to sign it. In law enforcement trained in analysis, the suspect is asked to write down what happened; and then the interview/interrogation is conducted.

Analysts frequently ask others to view the statement. A statement is sent to another with no details of evidence or even suspicion; only the allegation and the statement. Analysis should be uniformed, though some have a greater insight in terms of depth, due to experience or a clearer understanding of human nature. But in terms of indicators of sensitivity and deception, if the same statement is sent out to 100 analysts, to see if the statement is deceptive or not, we expect 100 of the same answers.

What follows below is a handwritten statement made by Amanda Knox.

Statement Analysis seeks to get to the truth by discerning deception. If a subject (not "suspect" but "subject" being anyone interviewed; whether for a crime, or for therapy or a job interview, etc, the principles remain the same) makes a false confession under duress, Statement Analysis will indicate this.

By observation (including observing the patterns of speech during polygraphs) some conclusions are suggested. For instance, when a subject uses the word "standing" in a conversation, it is generally an indication of tension. "My boss said to be here at 9AM" is different than "my boss stood before me and told me to be here at 9AM". In the 2nd statement, not only is "said" now "told" ("told" is stronger, but "standing" came into the subject's vocabulary, which means it is important to the subject the bodily posture of the boss. This is an example of "observation" which we will use.

We also do not declare a statement to be deceptive on a single indicator of sensitivity; we look for patterns and several indications of deception.

Statement Analysis is in bold type. Any additional bold type is used for emphasis.




This is very strange, I know, but really what happened is as confusing to me as it is to everyone else.


The opening line shows immediate sensitivity.

Dr. Paul Eckman teaches that testifying to memory failure is almost always deceptive. We don't know what drugs may have impacted her when this statement was made, but failure to remember is most always deceptive, especially in high stress situations. Memory lapse from alcohol is different than from drug use. Most believe that memory lapse from drug use is recoverable, but not from alcohol. We need to view what she does remember in order to discern if there is deception present.

In an open statement, we expect someone to tell us what happened, and not what did not happen. If we are told what did not happen, what was not said, what was not thought, we are to flag it as highly sensitive and possibly deceptive.

note the inclusion of sensitive words, "very" strange, (instead of just "strange")and "really" what happened. For her internal dictionary, there is "strange" and there is "very" strange, just as there is an event that happened and an event that "really" happened.

She notes that others are confused as she is.


I have been told there is hard evidence saying that I was at the place of the murder of my friend when it happened. This, I want to confirm, is something that to me, if asked a few days ago, would be impossible.


Note the inclusion Passive language "I have been told" rather than who told her what specifically. But far more telling is the following words within her statement: "I was at the place of the murder of my friend when it happened". Knox places herself at the crime scene after stating that "there is hard evidence".

This is not something an innocent person generally says, even in the form of a question, nor in a reflection of others' words. Someone NOT at the crime scene would not frame these words. If you suspect your spouse is cheating on you and he says, "you think I am cheating on you?" in the form of a question, it is to be considered sensitive, as not only is he responding to an accusation with a question (a signal of sensitivity) but is also able to frame 'I am cheating' within a statement. This is generally not something that an innocent person has in their vocabulary)

Note that she Wants to confirm, which is different than confirming.

She wants to confirm something that to her, if asked a few days ago, would be impossible. Is the something that she wants to confirm something that would be different to someone else (hence the use of "to me"). She is not being asked "a few days ago", she is being asked in the present. It appears that her perspective on the "something" she wants to confirm is different now than it was a few days ago.

Also note that "would be impossible" is different than "is impossible." The addition of "would be" changes her claim from something that already happened into a future event reducing reliability.


I know that Raffaele has placed evidence against me, saying that I was not with him on the night of Meredith's murder, but let me tell you this. In my mind there are things I remember and things that are confused. My account of this story goes as follows, despite the evidence stacked against me:
Note first her opposition to Raffaele.
Next, note "in my mind" is likely deceptive, as it is only in her mind; and not in reality. It is an attempt to avoid the stress of lying.

When people recount events from memory, they generally don't call it a "story", a word which conjures images of a made up tale.


On Thursday November 1 I saw Meredith the last time at my house when she left around 3 or 4 in the afternoon. Raffaele was with me at the time. We, Raffaele and I, stayed at my house for a little while longer and around 5 in the evening we left to watch the movie Amelie at his house. After the movie I received a message from Patrik, for whom I work at the pub "Le Chic". He told me in this message that it wasn't necessary for me to come into work for the evening because there was no one at my work.


Note the "cluster of blue" of highest sensitivity. This is a strong signal (very strong) that she is withholding information here.

It may be that she and Patrick argued as noted by the stronger "told" than "said". Also, we note any introduction of any persons in a statement; how they are introduced and the order in which they are introduced. Here, Patrick is introduced without a proper social introduction,other than to say that she works for him. This is an indication that she does not have a good relationship with Patrick.


Now I remember to have also replied with the message: "See you later. Have a good evening!" and this for me does not mean that I wanted to meet him immediately. In particular because I said: "Good evening!" What happened after I know does not match up with what Raffaele was saying, but this is what I remember.


"Now I remember" people can only tell us what they remember in truthful accounts. Here is a signal from her that she is telling us what she "remembers"; indicating that she may have told us what was not from memory previously.

Note the words "and this for me does not mean" which is a weak commitment to the text. If the subject does not own the text, neither can we. She tells us what it does not mean to her.

She also uses Raffaele's statement as a point of reference, rather than relying solely upon experiential memory. This is noted as sensitive.


I told Raffaele that I didn't have to work and that I could remain at home for the evening. After that I believe we relaxed in his room together, perhaps I checked my email. Perhaps I read or studied or perhaps I made love to Raffaele. In fact, I think I did make love with him.


Deceptive use of qualifiers. Again, see Dr. Eckman for this form of deception (memory).
Note "perhaps" (qualifier) she made love "to" Raffaele, now "with" Raffaele. Note also that she uses the word "told" rather than "said". She does not commit to what she did but it was not relaxful in any case.


How do we know this?




After that I believe we relaxed in his room together,


"After that" is called a temporal lacuane, or a passing of time. This indicates that she has skipped over time, and is withholding information of something that took place.

"I believe" is weak, which is why she uses the qualifier.

"My keys are locked in the car!" is stronger than
"I believe my keys are locked in the car!" which gives room for another belief; that they are somewhere else. She "believes" that they relaxed,but note the additional word "together" as unnecessary.

The qualifier reduces commitment but the sentence works with "we relaxed" but she needs the extra emphasis of "together" which tells us that there was likely a split between them and she needs to express a unity that should not need emphasis.

It wasn't relaxful and there was tension, and possibly disagreement between her and Raffaele.


She then says that they had sex. We begin by noticing that information is withheld (temporal lacunae) and note that the language suggests an argument or tension, and then note that in sex she made love "to" him, and not "with" him; nor did he make love to her.

Something is being left out and it may involve a disagreement between them and sexual activity.


Sex is a theme in this case, and should be explored by investigators. First she says she may have made love to Raffaele, then changes it to with him in the same sentence. The change in language would need to be explored. Was there two episodes of sexual activity, one that she was less willingly involved in?
Note that "with" shows distance and is not "Raffaele and I made love", or "we made love" which would be more unified. The difference, however subtle, is noted. There may have been a distance and even an argument or disagreement regarding sexual activity between her and Raffaele and should be explored by investigators.


However, I admit that this period of time is rather strange because I am not quite sure.


Note "quite sure" rather than "sure" gives the qualifier, which is presented in the form of the negative. We look for truthful subjects to tell us what happened and not what they do not remember.


I smoked marijuana with him and I might even have fallen asleep. These things I am not sure about and I know they are important to the case and to help myself, but in reality, I don't think I did much. One thing I do remember is that I took a shower with Raffaele and this might explain how we passed the time.


We can only commit to what the subject commits; here, she smoked marijuana (no qualifier) but does not tell us that she fell asleep. Note the additional words "might even" as weak.

Note, however, with significance, that she took a shower, but wants everything else to be vague; indicating deception.

It is to be noted that 'water' if included in many sexual homicides.

'Water' enters the subject's language when sexual activity has taken place, including bathing, washing of hands, washing of laundry, etc. It is often included in sex abuse cases, particularly, with children. A 'washing' away of guilt may be upon a subject's mind. Rapes and other violent sexual acts have been timelined properly by noting the time in which a subject speaks of washing hands or showering.

Note that this "might" (qualifier) "explain"; that is, to give explanation. This is different than reporting, as "explain" seeks to cause equality between what has been said before and what is now presented; a justification. This is not something we see in honest statements that simply report what is remembered.


In truth, I do not remember exactly what day it was, but I do remember that we had a shower and we washed ourselves for a long time. He cleaned my ears, he dried and combed my hair.


"in truth" is used because she now wants to be believed as is the inclusion of minute detail after reporting memory failure. Note that, again, she is reporting what she does not remember, which is found frequently in deceptive statements. A truthful account should tell us what happened, or what is remembered.


Note also that she revisits the showering. This shows that sexuality is highly sensitive to her; not simply due to repetition (repetition shows sensitivity)but because it is a theme in sexual homicides and that she now gives extra details including that they washed each other; that this went on for a long time, but then even adds in specifics such as "cleaned my ears". These additional details, which would appear needless, are something liars add in the hope of persuading (see Casey Anthony description of "Zanny the Nanny") rather than reporting.


The high sensitivity suggests that Raffaele had a reason to shower with her for a long time, and had a specific need to wash her ears. This suggests that evidence may have been needed to have been washed off "for a long time", and in specific areas. This likely places the deceased's wounds quite close to Amanda's face, hair, and ears.


The shower details are also interesting as it is used to pass time and sexuality. Sex is a theme in her statement. Think how you might describe your night; even if you had a romantic shower, would you include it? If you felt that you needed to include that you had a shower with your boyfriend, would you give details about ears? Sex is in her mind while giving this statement and should alert investigators to any sexual motive in the crime. Making love "to" not "with" her boyfriend may show that Amanda Knox strongly wanted to please him but was against what he wanted. This may speak to motive and just how far she went. The cleaning, in particular, of her own upper torso may suggest the blood from the victim was not easily cleaned off completely, and took special detail and time. The time that passed was not passed leisurely.


One of the things I am sure that definitely happened the night on which Meredith was murdered was that Raffaele and I ate fairly late, I think around 11 in the evening, although I can't be sure because I didn't look at the clock.


Note that "one of the things I am sure of" indicates that there are other things she is sure of, in spite of claiming memory lapse.



After dinner I noticed there was blood on Raffaele's hand,

Note the absence of qualifiers here. It is likely that this happened and may have been from the concentration of him cleaning her (detail given) whereas we do not have the stressed details of her cleaning him. In a murder investigation, the subject now introduces the word "blood" after a detail about cleaning and showering, combined with sex. Its proximity is noted.




but I was under the impression that it was blood from the fish.


She was "under the impression" is not the same as "it was from the fish"; but note the repetition of "blood" instead of the pronoun, "it" which I used. "Blood" is sensitive, as noted by repetition.




After we ate Raffaele washed the dishes but the pipes under his sink broke and water flooded the floor.


Note that Raffeale "washed" the dishes, and not "did the dishes". This is another indication that sexuality is involved in this crime. "Washed" is, indeed, what took place. What was washed besides Amanda?


Note next another introduction of "water" in the topic.




But because he didn't have a mop I said we could clean it up tomorrow because we (Meredith, Laura, Filomena and I) have a mop at home. I remember it was quite late because we were both very tired (though I can't say the time).


Note that whenever "so, since, because, therefore, etc" enter a statement, it is a signal of sensitivity. Why? Because a subject should tell us what happened, and not "why" something happened.

Note that she also tells us what another's person's state was "tired". When a person tells us what another thought or felt, it is often an indicator of deception. Note that they were both "very" tired even though they had been relaxing. Also note that when someone tells us what they "can't" remember, it is an indication that the limitation may be due to consequence. Since it is in the form of a negation and is restricted, it is likely that Amanda Knox knows not only the exact time line, but knows that there will be a consequence if she reveals it. .




When someone says that they "can't" say something or recall something; it can indicate that if they did tell the information, it would harm them. Here, she "can't" tell the time; yet has other details down carefully.


"noticed" is passive. Passive languge indicates a desire to conceal and she is withholding information here.


A statement has 3 general portions:


an introduction


the event


post event action


It is in the 3rd section that emotions and thoughts are most likely to be included in an honest statement.


note also the "balance" of a statement is where the introduction of an honest statement is about 25% of the statement; the event is 50%, and the post event (like calling 911, etc) is 25%. Any deviation is noted but strong deviation is a solid test for deception. This is covered in other analysis)




The next thing I remember


temporal lacunae. This indicates withheld information during a critical time period; high sensitivity. The police interview would strongly emphasize the time frame that Amanda Knox is withholding.


was waking up


note verb tense should be "woke up". "was waking up" reduces the commitment which should question whether or not she actually slept, as she casts doubt upon it.


the morning of Friday November 2nd around 10am and I took a plastic bag to take back my dirty cloths to go back to my house.


Note the memory appears stronger here.
Note also she is telling us the reason why ("so, since, because, therefore, etc") which is "out of bounds" of what happened, since it is an attempt to explain. Amanda Knox has a need to explain why she had a plastic bag, rather than simply report what she did. This is another indicator of sensitivity.




It was then that I arrived home alone


The extra word "alone" is unneccessary, therefore, in Statement Analysis, making it 'doubly important'. The word "alone" is added for emphasis, which would lead us to consider that Amanda was not alone.




that I found the door to my house was wide open and this all began.


Doors opening and doors closing are often phrases found within sexual abuse or sexual homicide cases. For children, we often find that when they describe a door open, they use tense language, but when they talk about a door closing, there may be relief present. Here, she does not say that she opened the door, but "found" it opened (passivity noted). When passive language is used on an inanimate object, it is an indication that the subject is attempting to conceal responsiblity. For example, "the drugs sat on the table"; since drugs do not "sit", it is an indication that the subject put the drugs on the table. Here, Knox likely either left the door this way, or knows that Raffaele did; either way, she does not wish the identity known. It reads like a staged scene.


In regards to this "confession" that I made last night, I want to make clear that I'm very doubtful of the verity of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion.


Note that within her words is found:
this "confession" that I made framed within her own wording (see above for the principle)
Note the qualifier she uses: she is not doubtful, but "very" doubtful, increasing sensitivity.
note "very doubtful" qualifier; rather than making a full denial of her confession.

note the order: stress, shock, and extreme exhaustion. Stress is the first thing noted. Exhaustion is only noted lastly, and has the sensitivity added, which reduces commitment, in "extreme". She was likely stressed, but not exhausted. These are presented in order to excuse, not report.




Not only was I told I would be arrested and put in jail for 30 years, but I was also hit in the head when I didn't remember a fact correctly.


Here, Knox comes close to a confession, even in her denial. Note what she calls the information: "fact"


I understand that the police are under a lot of stress, so I understand the treatment I received.


Note that innocent people do not, nor ever, "understand" false accusations or brutality used to coerce. This statement is frequently found in guilty parties (see the recent statement made by Tiffany Hartley in which she "understands" why people doubt her "story". Innocents are bold and their language does not connect with the language of guilt and they do not accept responsibilty (pronouns) nor do they understand anyone who does not believe what they say. Innocence has a boldness to it.


However, it was under this pressure and after many hours of confusion that my mind came up with these answers.


Note the passivity of "my mind came up with"; as passivity seeks to conceal identity and remove responsibility.




In my mind I saw Patrik in flashes of blurred images.


Note that here she tells us that she only saw Patrik in her "mind" but not in reality. It is the same as saying that she did not see Patrik. Note that even when people lie, they choose language based in reality.

It is critical in the analysis to know "how" she saw Patrik: it was in "blurred" images; not just "images" but "blurred images". Take note of this as we proceed:






I saw him near the basketball court.


This is not to say in blurred images. "Basketball court" is in her mind when she says this. Is there a basketball court nearby? For whatever reason, "basket ball court" enters her vocabulary because it is in her thinking.


I saw him at my front door.


The front door is also in her thoughts. Again, this does not say "blurry images".




I saw myself cowering in the kitchen


She states that she saw herself "cowering" in the kitchen. This "cowering" is something done in fear or shock. Why is this in her thinking, and therefore, entering her language? What is she telling us?




with my hands over my ears


Here, in her language, is her "hands" now mentioned, as well as her "ears". We note that previously, she spoke of her "ears" as in need of washing. Since she was also washing Raeffaele, she would be using her hands; which would then become clean. "Ears" is important to her (sensitive) which is noted by its repetition. It reminds me of being a boy and being told not to forget to 'wash behind your ears'. This washing and ears is linked and highly sensitive to Amanda. Was there blood behind or on her ears?




because in my head I could hear Meredith screaming.


This is now reported in her head: "I could hear Meredith screaming" as in her language, but only in her "head". Why does this enter her language? Is it because she heard Meredith screaming?


But I've said this many times so


Note that all self references are to be considered weak and unreliable. This indicates that she is remembering what she told others previously, rather than working from experiential memory.


as to make myself clear: these things seem unreal to me,


Note two things:

1. These things "seem" unreal; not that they are unreal.
2. These things seem unreal to "me" but not unreal to others.

This is deceptive language.






like a dream, and I am unsure if they are real things that happened or are just dreams my head has made to try to answer the questions in my head and the questions I am being asked.
Note that she is trying to answer questions in her head, first, but then the questions posed to her secondly. The order is always to be noted as important.


Even within fabrication, each word spoken (or written) is vital and should be examined within the forensics of the investigation.
We have already seen the lack of ownership and now she only reports seeing things in her mind. Yet, in spite of lying, there may be many important elements within her account.


But the truth is,




The word but means to refute what has come before and note what follows. Tis introduction tells us that she has lied and now wants to be believed


I am unsure about the truth and here's why:


Note that she is "unsure" about the truth, and not denying having killed Meredith; and will tell us why; noting that the explanation of why is sensitive within itself as it is out of the boundary of the general and open question of "What happened?".


1. The police have told me that they have hard evidence that places xc xat the house, my house, at the time of Meredith's murder. I don't know what proof they are talking about, but if this is true, it means I am very confused and my dreams must be real.
Note that Amanda acknowledges that it may be true, and if so, it only means that she is "very confused" and what she calls a "dream" must be real. An innocent person does not acknowledge that any falsehood could be true. Note pronoun usage. This is one of the key points of Statement Analysis.

Pronouns can even precede speech. We learn to say "mine" and "my" from our earliest age (sometimes "my" is signaled by a baby's hands, pre speech).

Pronouns are instinctive in language.

Everyone has an internal dictionary. If I say
"girl" to you all, one might think of a baby girl being born; another might think of a teenager. Each of us has our own internal personal dictionary and a good investigator seeks to enter into a subject's personal dictionary.

There are, however, two exceptions: articles (the, a) and pronouns. She uses pronouns that place her in guilt.






2. My boyfriend has claimed that I have said things that I know are not true.


Knox is acutely aware of the evidence, the crime scene, and that she has been blamed. Note what she frames, however, with the pronoun, "I": "I have said things that I know are not true". This is not something an innocent person would normally say. Even as we flag it as such, we note how often she frames guilty words within her statement.


I KNOW I told him I didn't have to work that night. I remember that moment very clearly.


Note the first sentence has no additional words, nor qualifiers.

But then note that she also claims to remember the precise moment in which she told him that. Not only is it likely deceptive to report what one doesn't remember, but the obvious contradiction present to the claim of a faulty memory.






I also NEVER asked him to lie for me.


(emphasis mine)
Note that "never" does not mean "no" and when found in a denial, it is not as reliable as "I didn't ask him to lie"; which is short (without the additional "for me". The extra words tell us that she likely told him to lie; just not for her, but for them both.




This is absolutely a lie.


Additional word "absolutely" noted weakening statement.




What I don't understand is why Raffaele, who has always been so caring and gentle with me, would lie about this.


That she feels the need to add that he was "so caring and gentle" indicates a need for the description. This indicates that Raffaele was not "caring and gentle" that night. It is a conflict for Amanda Knox.




What does he have to hide?


Note that by asking this question, she intimates that he has something to hide from investigators and would spur them on to find out what it is.




I don't think he killed Meredith,


Note the qualifier "think". "I left my keys in the car" versus "I think I left my keys in the car"; is weak and not reliable as she gives room for doubt. It also may be where she does not "think" he killed her, but he "knows" it.




but I do think he is scared, like me.


Note that Amanda links herself with him even after expressing doubt of his innocence. This would be a theme investigators need to follow up on. Why does she continue to link herself with him?




He walked into a situation that he has never had to be in, and perhaps he is trying to find a way out by disassociating himself with me.


Note that he "walked" into. It is likely that she is indicating tension on the night in question and is putting responsibility on him for "walking into" it. It is a strange sentence. Note also that he is "disassociating" himself "with" me; which is distance, but unified, where as
"from me" would be have distant and separated. Amanda Knox does not appear able to distance herself from him. This cooperation with him shoud be noted.




Honestly,


Repeated use of similar statements is from habitual liar (childhood) who wants to be believed


I understand because this is a very scary situation. I also know that the police don't believe things of me that I know I can explain, such as:
note "can't explain which may indicate fear of consequences"




1. I know the police are confused as to why it took me so long to call someone after I found the door to my house open and blood in the bathroom.


This tells us what Knox has been attempting to do: confuse the police. The police are not "confused"; they recognize the incongruity of Knox' statements. This is the "muddy the waters" technique employed by the guilty


The truth is,




noted again that now she is going to tell the truth, raising the question of what she has told previously.


I wasn't sure what to think, but I definitely didn't think the worst, that someone was murdered.


Note that "someone" is gender free even though she knows the victim is a female. Note also that when she said it took so long to call the police she said when she found the door open and then added the additional information about "blood" in the bathroom. Note that she raised the question, "Why did it take you so long?" but did not give answer.

We may use the same principle in Statement Analysis as if someone had plainly asked her a question and she did not answer it:

When a question is not answered, it means the question is sensitive. We have an expression: if the subject didn't answer your question, the subject did.


Why would Amanda Knox not identify her best friend by name, but rather use the genderfree "someone"? The use of "someone" being gender free should provoke investigators to press the issue of sex in the case, as the victim is now reduced, deliberately by the choice of words, to sexless. This is an attempt to distance herself from Meredith, and perhaps, even lie to herself about the murder. She knows the gender of the victim.


I thought a lot of things, mainly that perhaps someone got hurt and left quickly to take care of it.


Who might the "someone" who got hurt, but left quickly to take care of it be? This may be an indication of various alibis discussed.




I also thought that maybe one of my roommates was having menstral [sic] problems and hadn't cleaned up.


This would indicate gender. This would lead me to more questions, to learn if Amanda Knox was terribly unsanitary or raised in an unsanitary home. If not, it would appear to be a fabrication. Also, since she raised the topic of "menstral" it would be important for investigators to learn if she herself was menstrating and not interested in sex with her boyfriend, or if the victim was in her cycle during the crime. What may appear to be just an excuse by some, for Statement Analysis, we recognize that the words chosen, even if for only an excuse, do not come from a void, but from the subject's mind for a reason.




Perhaps I was in shock,
Note the qualifier, "perhaps"


but at the time I didn't know what to think and that's the truth.


As noted previously, when someone tells us what did not happen, or what was not said, it is highly sensitive. When someone tells us what they did not think, it is deceptive. (see Tiffany Hartley's statements made to Greta Van Sustren for examples of this form of negation)


That is why I talked to Raffaele about it in the morning, because I was worried and wanted advice.


Note "why" as very sensitive, and where discussion about lying likely took place.

Note that she was "worried and wanted advice" are without any additional words. They are presented in past tense form, first person singular and are reliable.




We are able to note in her statement that she uses lots of qualifiers leaving room for a variety of explanations in order to "confuse". Liars have a difficult and stressful task of recalling what stories they have told and by adding "perhaps" and "maybe", they are able to later defend their inconsistency.
First, she lists posible excuses for not calling police, excuses that didnt cause her to be alarmed. Then she goes on to say that "perhaps" she was in "shock", which means that she would have had knowledge of a traumatic event. In the next sentence, the "shock" turned to "worry" which caused her to seek advice.


2. I also know that the fact that I can't fully recall the events


Note that she can't "fully" recall rather than just "recall". Note again that the subject tells us what can't be remembered is often deceptive and is noted here as another indication of deception.






that I claim took place at Raffaele's home during the time that Meredith was murdered is incriminating.


She acknowledges that what she has said is incriminating.


And I stand by my statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrik, but I want to make very clear that these events seem more unreal to me that what I said before, that I stayed at Raffaele's house.


I have added the emphasis to her statement with the explainations already given. Note the self reference, "what I said before" in her statement means that it is not coming from experiential memory, which is at ease, but through the tension of trying to remember a lie.


Note also that whenever a sentence begins with "And" it is an indication of information that has been left out.




3. I'm very confused at this time. My head is full of contrasting ideas and I know I can be frustrating to work with for this reason. But I also want to tell the truth as best I can. Everything I have said in regards to my involvement in Meredith's death, even though it is contrasting, are the best truth that I have been able to think.


Note that she acknowledges that she has attempted to confuse them and that she "wants" to tell the truth, rather than she has told the truth. Future tense statements are found in most every murder investigation statement that is released to the press. Recently, a little boy was murdered and the accused said, "I would never harm" a child. This future tense statement is easy to make as once caught, it is truthful that the subject will never, in the future, "harm" the deceased. We also note in deceptive statements minimizing language, such as "harm" when it is actually a murder.

We also note that in her personal dictionary, there is "truth" and there is "real" truth and there is the "best" truth. This is an indication that Amanda Knox has been lying and likely has a life long habit of lying that may have become highly evidenced when she hit puberty.




I'm trying, I really am, because I'm scared for myself.


This is why she is trying: she is scared for herself; but does not say she is scared for her boyfriend.






I know I didn't kill Meredith.


In statement analysis, is this a strong denial?

No. "I didn't kill Meredith" is a strong denial, she only "thinks" she didn't kill Meredith. This qualifier is weak; especially given the accusation. It does, however, raise another question for me as I continue through the statement:

Does Amanda Knox believe that the final, fatal blow, was delivered by Raffaele, himself, rather than her? This is sometimes seen when two or more assailants take part in a murder, but the final inflicted injury that causes immediate death is attributed to one (rather than acting "in concert" in any way) It would take extensive interviewing with Amanda Knox to learn if she believes this to be so. We sometimes see this in drug overdosage where one gives drugs to the victim, but if the victim took the drugs on his or own accord, the supplier can say "I didn't kill him" and pass a polygraph.




That's all I know for sure.


Whenever someone says "that's all I know" it is an indication of withholding information.

Why?

Because truthful people will continually make attempts to remember any detail that may help police and often stay up late at night, losing sleep, in an attempt to recall anything not previously remembered. It is a sign that they wish questions to cease. (see analysis on Misty Croslin for this principle)




In these flashbacks that I'm having, I see Patrik as the murderer,


Patrik is the murderer but only in her flashbacks


but the way the truth feels in my mind, there is no way for me to have known because I don't remember FOR SURE if I was at my house that night.


bold type added by me for emphasis. Capital letters were written by Knox. Note that the "truth" (not "real" truth, nor "best" truth) only "feels" in her mind. She also shows deception by telling us what she does not remember, and then frames the words "I was at my house that night" within her statement.




The questions that need answering, at least for how I'm thinking are:


Note that these questions only need answering for Amamda Knox. What does she want answers to?

Her best friend has been brutally murdered and she needs answers to:


1. Why did Raffaele lie? (or for you) Did Raffaele lie?
2. Why did I think of Patrik?



Ask yourself how what questions you might have if you found your best friend and roommate murdered.
Who did it?
Is the killer loose?
Am I in danger of being killed, too?

Not so for Amanda. Order is important (see Solomon's use of Statement Analysis in the custody battle of 1 Kings 6 where he uses the order of the mothers' statements to determine custody. Order shows importance.


When Misty Croslin called 911 to report a missing child, her order revealed her priority:

1. That she was sleeping. This was the first thing she said and most important to her.

2. that the door was open. This is second in priority for her.

3. That a child was missing. It is only after the alibi is established does she bother to say a child is missing.




3. Is the evidence proving my pressance [sic] at the time and place of the crime reliable? If so, what does this say about my memory? Is it reliable?


Note that pronouns are exempt from personal internal dictionary and are universal. Here we have "my presence" and "my memory"; taking ownership of both. In her framed words, she says "my presence at the time and place of the crime" even though it is worded in the form of a question. This is not what someone who was not present for the crime would do.






4. Is there any other evidence condemning Patrik or any other person?


This question, the 4th in priority, seeks information that would condemn Patrik or anyone else, rather than herself.








3. Who is the REAL murder [sic]?


Note that in her list of questions, how low in priority this is. Note also the emphasis she places, both linguistically and in caps of "real" killer. Who caused the final, fatal infliction of injury that caused immediate death?

This is particularly important because I don't feel I can be used as condemning testimone [sic] in this instance.



Note "feel" as a qualifier (someone may "feel" otherwise") weakening her assertion.


I have a clearer mind that I've had before, but I'm still missing parts, which I know is bad for me.


Note the indication of deliberatley withheld information in the form of negation.


But this is the truth


Note that this is the "truth" and not the "real" nor "best" truth for Amanda Knox.


and this is what I'm thinking at this time. Please don't yell at me because it only makes me more confused, which doesn't help anyone.
Note the addition of "help anyone". This may reveal the motive for why she has attempted to "confuse" police (though they likely claimed not to be confused). She said the police were confused but didn't tell us that the police said they were confused. If the police did not say that they were confused, it is likely that she has revealed her motive for contradicting herself and her extreme use of qualifiers: deception by confusion. Her confusion is meant to help herself.


"I know Casey Anthony is lying because her lips are moving" said HLN News analysist, Mike Brooks.


This is the type of statement that frustrates investigators. We know that even within lies, truth is found. This statement attempts to "muddy the waters" so much that others will just give up in frustration. Children who employ this method with sucess, will do so as adults. Children who's parents (or teachers) take the time to get to the bottom of things will abandon this childish practice. It is likely that Amanda Knox used this technique early in life.


I understand how serious this situation is, and as such, I want to give you this information as soon and as clearly as possible.


Note that there is no need to delay ("soon as possible") as truth can simply be told here and now. This sentence tells us that she has not told investigators the truth and investigators will have to wait for the truth.




If there are still parts that don't make sense, please ask me. I'm doing the best I can, just like you are.
Note understanding with investigators who have accused her of murder is not something innocent subjects say. It is a form of manipulation. .




Please believe me at least in that,


She asks, with sensitivity (please) to be believed in "at least" that she is "trying"; not that she has told them the truth about the murder.


although I understand if you don't.
Note above.


All I know is that I didn't kill Meredith, and so I have nothing but lies to be afraid of.


Note again the phrase "all I know" is an attempt to end the inquiry.
Amanda Knox owns her involvement in Meredith's death with a pronoun, "my". Someone who was not involved in Meredith's death would not state "my involvement", because they would not own it. This is akin to a confession. When police have a false confession or a prisoner of war is forced to give a false confession, we find in their statements a lack of ownership of the crime, even during the confession. A false confession will often slip into present tense language, and give indications of deception regarding the confession itself. Amanda Knox gives indications of deception regarding the crime, not the confession.


The same theme continues. I have highlighted the key words as the explanation is the same. Knox can't tell the truth, as it would cause her consequences; therefore, she seeks to confuse and leave open all sorts of possible explanations. She does not report what happens, but attempts to persuade. This is likely how she got herself out of trouble growing up, and is used to getting her way. The wording suggests her form of lying is lifelong, and not specific to this event.


Amanda Knox would not pass a polygraph. She fails the polygraphy of Statement Analysis and places herself at the scene of the murder and is deceptive throughout her account.

In her account not only does she show ownership of the crime, but places herself at the crime scene and links sexual activity with the crime itself.

She is consistently deceptive in her statement.

Regarding the murder of Meredith Kitchner, Amanda Knox shows herself as deceptive, and responsible for the death of Meredith Kercher.

Meredith's family deserves justice.

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.03.13 10:37

The Publisher must have upped the price for her, now that it threatens to get really interesting, because the last I read a few months back the deal was only for $2 million.

Maybe the publisher is expecting the book to really fly off the shelves now that there is an element of suspense...as to what could be in her book....which will be in total contradiction to the trial that is for sure.

If she should be found guility during the re-trial, wonder whether she 'll be allowed to keep the profit from the book, interviews, etc.


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Post by jozi on 27.03.13 13:03

Amanda Knox Statement Analysis (repost)


Very interesting read Hobs, thank you. Reading Knox's written statement tells us all we need to know about the murder of M, even to the Unqualified Professional like me. She was there, she saw and she covered up, the only thing missing is the motive ?

She incriminates herself so much, but is a master at deceit !!!

This reminds me of Kate McCanns famous words " If I'm Honest ".

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.03.13 14:29

Because truthful people will continually make attempts to remember any detail that may help police and often stay up late at night, losing sleep, in an attempt to recall anything not previously remembered. It is a sign that they wish questions to cease. (see analysis on Misty Croslin for this principle)

What does this tell us of a certain Mr & Mrs who went off to sleep on the night their daughter went missing?
Their behavior is the opposite of what truthful people would have done.

According to statement analyst, Knox has questions to answer about Meredith's death.
You can bet there will be quite a few gems in her book that will be picked up by criminologist or linguistic forensic analyst.

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Post by lj on 27.03.13 17:00

@jozi wrote:Amanda Knox Statement Analysis (repost)


Very interesting read Hobs, thank you. Reading Knox's written statement tells us all we need to know about the murder of M, even to the Unqualified Professional like me. She was there, she saw and she covered up, the only thing missing is the motive ?

She incriminates herself so much, but is a master at deceit !!!

This reminds me of Kate McCanns famous words " If I'm Honest ".

People under the influence don't need a motive to kill. Not that everyone under the influence kills, but the use of drugs and/or alcohol impairs someone's judgement/reasoning etc. severely.

To draw another comparison with the McCanns: I am convinced that that played a major role that fateful evening for everyone. By the time they could think clearly again they were so deeply involved and implicated that they did not see another way than continuing to lie.


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Post by aiyoyo on 31.03.13 13:02

Back to Jail for Amanda Knox?
by Barbie Latza Nadeau Mar 25, 2013 2:13 PM EDT
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It's not over yet. Italy’s high court has overturned Amanda Knox’s acquittal, saying that the American must stand trial for the murder of her ex-roommate. Knox's American lawyer said she found the ruling "painful," but is ready to fight and prove her innocence. It’s unclear whether Knox will return voluntarily to Italy or whether she’ll be extradited—there’s also a chance she may face trial in absentia.
An Italian court is set to decide whether to retry Amanda Knox for murder. Barbie Latza Nadeau on how it could shake out—and whether Italians could haul her back to a cell in Perugia.

The sensational case of Amanda Knox and the murder of Meredith Kercher is back in the headlines—again. This time, Italy’s highest court will rule once and for all whether to close the case for good or send it back to a lower court to retry.

Amanda Knox is escorted to her appeal hearing at Perugia's Court of Appeal on September 29, 2011 in Perugia, Italy. (Oli Scarff/Getty)

On Monday, Italy’s top court heard testimony from Italian prosecutors who want to put the Seattle native back in jail. In 2009, Knox and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito were convicted and sentenced to 26 and 25 years in prison, respectively, for knifing Kercher, Knox’s British roommate, in 2007, leaving her to die choking on her own blood. Two years later, the duo was sensationally acquitted in an appellate trial that set them free. Rudy Guede, a drifter from the Ivory Coast, was convicted separately in a fast track trial and was sentenced to 30 years in prison. His conviction was upheld by Italy’s high court in 2011, but his sentence was reduced to 16 years.

Monday’s hearing marks the final phase of Italy’s three-tiered judicial system for the Knox and Sollecito case. If the acquittal is upheld, the high court’s final ruling cannot be appealed again, and Knox is guaranteed her freedom. If the high court rules that the case must be retried, it goes back only to the appellate stage, not to square one. Effectively, it would revert back to the 2009 ruling in which Knox and Sollecito were originally convicted.

In Italy all criminal cases are automatically accepted for appeal after the lower court ruling (though not all prosecutors or defense lawyers choose to appeal). More than 50 percent of all appellate cases are amended on appeal, as in the Knox case. Far fewer than that are amended again by the high court, but it is not uncommon for the court to order a retrial or to amend a sentence or fine in some way.

Perugia prosecutor general Giovanni Galati filed a 112-page appeal in early 2012 after Knox and Sollecito were acquitted. He argued that the appellate court erred in judgment when applying reasonable doubt to specific elements of the case and not the case as a whole. Galati also argued that the appellate court was wrong to approve only a partial independent review of the forensic evidence, and that they should have instead adopted an all-or-nothing stance, independently reviewing all forensic evidence, including that which was used to convict Guede, and not just the high-profile items.

Knox’s lawyers are also appealing one element of the appellate finding, part of a tangle of legal issues still circling the 25-year-old. The reason Knox was given one more year in prison than Sollecito is because of a criminal slander charge stemming from her accusation of her former boss Patrick Lumumba in the early days of the murder investigation. The appellate court acquitted her of murder but confirmed her slander charge. Her lawyers argued on Monday that the slander charge also be overturned, or retried, since she says she was coerced into the accusation. Knox is also facing a separate slander charge for accusing Perugia police of brutality during her interrogation. That case is still in the lower courts with a verdict expected sometime this summer. Knox’s parents, Edda Mellas and Curt Knox, are also on trial for slander for repeating their daughter’s claims of abuse to a British newspaper.

Giuliano Mignini, the Perugia prosecutor who successfully convicted Knox and Sollecito the first time around, and who unsuccessfully prosecuted their appeal, has also been subject to his own trials. During the Knox trial, he was convicted of abuse of office for illegally wiretapping journalists during the infamous Monster of Florence investigations. That conviction was overturned in an appellate hearing in 2011.

The big question still remains: could Amanda Knox somehow find herself back in an Italian jail cell? Defendants in criminal cases are not required to attend hearings, so even if the case is retried, Knox would not have to return to Italy. If she were reconvicted and sentenced to jail time on the appellate level, Italian authorities may be able to extradite her based on an alliance with the United States. More likely, they would wait until a second high-court ruling on the appeal.

In the meantime, Knox is keeping busy. Her memoir Waiting to Be Heard is expected to be released late next month, and she will be giving her first-ever face-to-face interview with ABC’s Diane Sawyer, scheduled for April 30. If her case is closed for good, Knox never has to worry about the Kercher case again—at least legally speaking.

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Barbie Latza Nadeau, author of the Beast Book Angel Face, about Amanda Knox, has reported from Italy for Newsweek since 1997 and for The Daily Beast since 2009. She is a frequent contributor to CNN Traveller, Departures, Discovery, and Grazia. She appears regularly on CNN, the BBC, and NPR.

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This case will test the Italy and America alliance. We will see whether inter-countries alliance is worth anything when it comes to protecting its citizen.



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Post by Guest on 12.04.13 20:06

Amanda Knox book won't be published in UK


Amanda Knox's account of the murder of Meredith Kercher in an Italian hill town will not be published in Britain because of concerns it could contravene the UK's tough libel laws


By Nick Squires, in Rome

3:02PM BST 12 Apr 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9990170/Amanda-Knox-book-wont-be-published-in-UK.html

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Post by Guest on 01.05.13 10:26

Amanda Knox: I Want To Visit Meredith's Grave

http://news.sky.com/story/1085312/amanda-knox-i-want-to-visit-merediths-grave

What! so she can say sorry at the grave side for not telling the truth about how she died? thereby in her twisted mind ease her conscience. I hope Meridith's parents never ever give their permission for Knox to visit the grave.

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Post by Guest on 01.05.13 14:00

candyfloss wrote:Amanda Knox book won't be published in UK

Amanda Knox's account of the murder of Meredith Kercher in an Italian hill town will not be published in Britain because of concerns it could contravene the UK's tough libel laws

By Nick Squires, in Rome - 3:02PM BST 12 Apr 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9990170/Amanda-Knox-book-wont-be-published-in-UK.html
If it ever did get published in Britain, it would be placed on the 'fiction' shelves anyway.

Along with many other tales purporting to be about 'what really happened'!

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Post by Pershing36 on 01.05.13 18:12

Cherry Blossom wrote:Amanda Knox: I Want To Visit Meredith's Grave

http://news.sky.com/story/1085312/amanda-knox-i-want-to-visit-merediths-grave

What! so she can say sorry at the grave side for not telling the truth about how she died? thereby in her twisted mind ease her conscience. I hope Meridith's parents never ever give their permission for Knox to visit the grave.

She should leave the Kircher family alone, doesn't she think THEY have been through enough. As usual with Knox it is me, me and me.

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that a deal was done between the USA and Italian Governments to quash her conviction long enough to get her out of the country.

The USA like the UK also seem to have a problem in believing that any citizen of theirs can possibly be guilty of anything in a foreign country. They seem to think the whole world bar themselves legally haven't progressed from Medieval times.

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Post by whmon on 01.05.13 18:54

Quote 'Note also that she revisits the showering. This shows that sexuality is highly sensitive to her; not simply due to repetition (repetition shows sensitivity)but because it is a theme in sexual homicides and that she now gives extra details including that they washed each other; that this went on for a long time, but then even adds in specifics such as "cleaned my ears". These additional details, which would appear needless, are something liars add in the hope of persuading (see Casey Anthony description of "Zanny the Nanny") rather than reporting.' Unquote

This reminds me of a pair of pink running shoes that were at first too bright, and a dog that suddenly appeared...

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Post by Pershing36 on 02.05.13 0:17

Well now heavily coached after many months she is appearing on TV promoting her book and doing interviews. All of course in aid of her own fighting fund that got her American justice.

I think we all know that justice in the USA is for those how can afford it.


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