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Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

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Post by jd on 13.03.13 12:36

Its always interesting to look again at the very first news reports, what was said and what we can see was happening. At 2.50 robert murat is right there with kate mccann and ROB. The family portrait was released immediately


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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by Guest on 13.03.13 13:00

I think that's also Robert Murat at 2.15.

It's interesting to see how quickly the fairy tale about wonderful caring parents and a forced entry to the apartment was being plugged.

to Eileen McCann's remark at 3.00 that this is how Gerry is repaid for all the lives he's saved.

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Post by Guest on 13.03.13 13:03

Always good indeed to look back at the "beginning" ...

Small thing: that's not ROB with Kate, it's MO

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Post by sami on 13.03.13 13:07

Described as "her first foreign holiday". It was not though. Even if you discount Ireland as being "foreign" she was in Majorca.

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Post by jd on 13.03.13 13:12

Châtelaine wrote:Always good indeed to look back at the "beginning" ...

Small thing: that's not ROB with Kate, it's MO

Yes you're right it is MO and not ROB, actually this is more interesting. Remember the tapas lot said they had never seen murat before until they saw him on Sky News 10 days later as a suspect

matt oldfield RI:

4078 "Robert MURAT.'

Reply "Oh yeah, err never saw him, I didn't see him on the night but I wasn't around the apartment as much. I know he, that Rachael and Fiona saw him on that night but I didn't recognise him when the, when the picture came up and they all suddenly went we saw that man on the night. He didn't mean anything to me, err I'd not seen him. The first I'd seen him was on the, on the news. I had no interaction with him then and I know he interviewed err or translated at the Police Station but he wasn't involved in any translation for me and I hadn't see him before.'

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

Well matt you were right next to him on the morning of May 4th!!!!

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Post by jd on 13.03.13 13:13

@sami wrote:Described as "her first foreign holiday". It was not though. Even if you discount Ireland as being "foreign" she was in Majorca.
......and lived in Amsterdam in 2004. Her passport is stamped for this one

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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by PeterMac on 13.03.13 13:13

Where did they get the family photo from so early ?

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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by jd on 13.03.13 13:17

@PeterMac wrote:Where did they get the family photo from so early ?

Was also in the Guardian on Friday 4 May 2007 14.39 BST...so at least 5 hours before the Channel 4 news report

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/04/markoliver

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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by jd on 13.03.13 13:35

The family portrait taken by Paul Grover always reminds me of the Parkers...who coincidentally also had a daughter named Madeleine (Emilie/Amelie)...The victim on the right, youngest with fingers in the mouth, parents big hands, iconic blonde girl



Both had the "laughing" fathers days after the event..

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Post by tigger on 13.03.13 14:04

Maddie as usual isn't looking where everyone else is looking.
Emilie has been glued onto the group.

But the scariest photo - which they didn't promote a lot after the first few days is this one:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/sandy-hook-victims-names-ages-released-1.4337288

It's got everything, full face up to the camera, wide unlikely blue eyes, perfect skin, blonde hair. What a recipe!

Vatican radio interview with G.McCann May 07:


Gerry McCann:
"I... We hope and pray that no-one ever does go through it
again. Errm... I
think... I hope that, if it does happen, that there will be some
template, errr... from what we
have done, as our
extended family, that will help raise the awareness for any other
missing children and it's possible tosuch cases. Having
spoken, errm... to peop... you know, errr... people around us, then stayed strong and taking control even
of small things because you feel totally out of control in those first hours and taking control
of this... of this smallest decisions helps you cope and think rationally and influence things around you and that, I think,
is the most important thing."


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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by jd on 13.03.13 14:11

@tigger wrote:Maddie as usual isn't looking where everyone else is looking.
Emilie has been glued onto the group.

But the scariest photo - which they didn't promote a lot after the first few days is this one:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/sandy-hook-victims-names-ages-released-1.4337288

It's got everything, full face up to the camera, wide unlikely blue eyes, perfect skin, blonde hair. What a recipe!

Vatican radio interview with G.McCann May 07:


Gerry McCann:
"I... We hope and pray that no-one ever does go through it
again. Errm... I
think... I hope that, if it does happen, that there will be some
template, errr... from what we
have done, as our
extended family, that will help raise the awareness for any other
missing children and it's possible tosuch cases. Having
spoken, errm... to peop... you know, errr... people around us, then stayed strong and taking control even
of small things because you feel totally out of control in those first hours and taking control
of this... of this smallest decisions helps you cope and think rationally and influence things around you and that, I think,
is the most important thing."

Her eyes are freaky in this photo! Looks like a slit over the pupil

I wonder what the template could have been......Am sure it wasn't anything to do with mcdonalds non decaying fries!!!

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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by Miraflores on 13.03.13 14:52

I'd never seen that before jd. Interesting how:

  • it's reported that 'the parents said she'd been abducted', and not the official story now that this is fact.
  • about the Portuguese police quickly organising a search and closing borders, which again doesn't square with Gerry & Kate's later versions that borders weren't closed and no one else was looking.
  • Gerry phoned his family and told them that the shutters had been interfered with.
Of course, initial news reports can be wrong, but this one seems pretty unbiased to me.

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Post by Miraflores on 13.03.13 14:59

We never hear quotes from Kate's friend Gill Renwick any more - who also had been told the forced shutters story.

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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by tigger on 13.03.13 15:35

The book: page 86: Chapter 4th May:


4th May:
page 86
At about nine o’clock we all went out on to Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva...
[... ]

By this time our friend Jon Corner, a creative director in media production in Liverpool, was circulating photographs and video footage of Madeleine to the police, Interpol and broadcasting and newspaper news desks. This was in accordance with the standard advice of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in the US, which advocates getting an image of a missing child into the public domain as soon as possible.

Unquote

No mention of how serendipitous it was that these items were available to Jon Corner and how much time it took to sort all this out.
Finding the right contacts etc. Did he have all these images at hand? Unusual I'd say for a friend of the family to be able to lay his hands on this material so quickly.

Going by the hazy times given above - all this happened before 10.00 a.m. Most impressive is the fact implied above that he acted according to the advice of the NCMEC in the US!

Uncanny. winkwink

to add:
(phone call from Gerry at 23.40)
Sandy Cameron statement: “On the night of Thursday, May 3, 2007, Patricia received a telephone call from Gerry informing us of the disappearance of Madeleine. Gerry manifested all those emotions one expects from a father who has lost a child in the circumstances. He was distraught and spoke at the same time he cried. He seemed frustrated with the slowness of the searches in Portugal, with the fact that the borders had not been closed, and with the fact that sniffer dogs were not being used. Patricia and I contacted the British Embassy to try and help in this regard.”
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Post by PeterMac on 13.03.13 16:16

How much video footage do you have of friend's children ? How many photos of friend's children ?
And by that I mean of their children on their own, not with yours.
And why ?

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Post by Nina on 13.03.13 16:24

@PeterMac wrote:How much video footage do you have of friend's children ? How many photos of friend's children ?
And by that I mean of their children on their own, not with yours.
And why ?

If I was to discover that I would be most concerned and would need to confront the friend and ask how they has acquired them and why?

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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by jd on 13.03.13 17:48

He seemed frustrated with the slowness of the searches in Portugal, with the fact that the borders had not been closed, and with the fact that sniffer dogs were not being used

Am wondering what those 4 legged things are with the GNR!

They gave the video of Maddie in her snow white dress very quickly too, as well as the iconic red dress photo. Makes you wonder why did it take 3 week to release the photoshopped poolside photo

Murat looks like he is controlling everything....thought he was just a translator, and that he had come back to PDL in such a rush to sort out his own personal urgent business

If Jon Corner was there at this time too then how come he got there so quick? Another booking just before the flight took off like murat 2 days previous?

Trish Cameron says kate mccann went half an hour after gerry mccann checked. This is not true, he was back by 9.20pm. Also no mention of MO check which was half an hour before

Wonder if they found dianne websters fingerprints on the shutters, after she had tried to raise them the night before!!!!

And no mention of jane tanners abductor man/woman!!

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Re: Channel 4 News - 4th May 2007

Post by plebgate on 13.03.13 18:39

@jd wrote:The family portrait taken by Paul Grover always reminds me of the Parkers...who coincidentally also had a daughter named Madeleine (Emilie/Amelie)...The victim on the right, youngest with fingers in the mouth, parents big hands, iconic blonde girl



Both had the "laughing" fathers days after the event..

The way Emilie is sitting in the photo reminds me of the way Maddie was sitting at the side of the pool.

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Post by Guest on 13.03.13 20:54

@PeterMac wrote:How much video footage do you have of friend's children ? How many photos of friend's children ?
And by that I mean of their children on their own, not with yours.
And why ?
***
And so readily / quickly made available ... ?

ETA it reminds me of the so far [for me] inexplicable very early press release at midnight May 3/4. It has always felt like someone didn't go according to plan and "spoke" before the cue ...

IMO, of course, IMO

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Post by bobbin on 13.03.13 21:15

Châtelaine wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:How much video footage do you have of friend's children ? How many photos of friend's children ?
And by that I mean of their children on their own, not with yours.
And why ?
***
And so readily / quickly made available ... ?

ETA it reminds me of the so far [for me] inexplicable very early press release at midnight May 3/4. It has always felt like someone didn't go according to plan and "spoke" before the cue ...

IMO, of course, IMO
A bit like 9/11 then when the BBC reporter stated that building 7 had gone down and it was still there behind her, for all to see, for another twenty minutes, then it went down. She was apparently quoting a reuters report.
Yes, it's an easy mistake to make, giving a news flash out and er, woops..er...right.

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Post by Truthmustout on 13.03.13 21:29

@plebgate wrote:
@jd wrote:The family portrait taken by Paul Grover always reminds me of the Parkers...who coincidentally also had a daughter named Madeleine (Emilie/Amelie)...The victim on the right, youngest with fingers in the mouth, parents big hands, iconic blonde girl



Both had the "laughing" fathers days after the event..

The way Emilie is sitting in the photo reminds me of the way Maddie was sitting at the side of the pool.

For the parker photo,the girl in red dress and white sleeves , where is her feets? And what's up with their hands ?coinsidence they all show some weird signs with them ?look closely...

And yes reminds me of the mccann family photo in many ways.

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Post by Guest on 13.03.13 21:37

I can't resist saying that I'm sure her feet are at the end of her legs! The photo doesn't show the legs of any of the family. I can't see anything strange about this photo - the behaviour of the father later is another matter though - and there are some really crazy things on the Internet about the middle child making some sort of demonic hand signal........


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Post by Truthmustout on 13.03.13 21:45

Jean wrote:I can't resist saying that I'm sure her feet are at the end of her legs! The photo doesn't show the legs of any of the family. I can't see anything strange about this photo - the behaviour of the father later is another matter though - and there are some really crazy things on the Internet about the middle child making some sort of demonic hand signal........


Lol, well I ment her legs big grin . The dress looks empty ime . Well both girls make a signal, and yes there are lots of wild stuff out there I agree. Who knows, I think the fathers reaction before going on tv says it all really, fake as fake can be.

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Post by jd on 14.03.13 1:45

The internet is really crazy.....demonic hand signal, how ridiculous its just ludicrous







And how grown up the sisters became...


laugh Its all crazy internet laugh

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Post by Guest on 14.03.13 5:59

@jd wrote:The internet is really crazy.....demonic hand signal, how ridiculous its just ludicrous







And how grown up the sisters became...


laugh Its all crazy internet laugh

In the last Parker-pic all have a nice sun tan.
In fact even their blue eyes have gone brown!

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