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Post by EJW on 05.03.13 18:51


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Re: Blacksmith 5th march 2013 - and conclude

Post by amandaw on 05.03.13 19:27

The machinations behind and in the fore. Extraordinary. Yet more intrigue in this piece but always gives a sense of being sated. Thank you BB.

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Post by averageperson on 05.03.13 19:45

I only found him very recently and he really is quite something. :)

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Post by EJW on 05.03.13 20:08

I do find his blog very interesting although it can be rather obtuse at times. Blacksmith is not to everyone's taste on here but often he is bang on the money. Average person it's worth looking through the back catalogue as it were, interesting stuff! Welcome to the forum both of you. smilie

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Post by amandaw on 05.03.13 20:24

Thank you very much EJW.

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Post by Beanie on 05.03.13 20:27

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There would be nothing of value from the media, that was for sure. The belief that if pressure was kept up for long enough the media would do the famous "turn", pull out their hidden dossiers and destroy the McCanns was, I was sorry to say, as unjustified as the belief in hidden protection. Whatever finally appeared in the media would only do so when the facts had been established elsewhere.

Blacksmith I assume is saying the press have not got stacks of boxes of dirt on the McCanns, but also that the McCanns are not being protected by powerful people!

If that is the case, how on earth has this farce gone on for so many years?

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Post by averageperson on 05.03.13 20:28

@EJW wrote:I do find his blog very interesting although it can be rather obtuse at times. Blacksmith is not to everyone's taste on here but often he is bang on the money. Average person it's worth looking through the back catalogue as it were, interesting stuff! Welcome to the forum both of you. smilie

Will do and thanks for the welcome. :)

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Post by EJW on 05.03.13 20:59

No problem winkwink
The BBC 's 2007 written commitment...I would not be at all surprised given the recent goings on at the beeb

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Bowing out

Post by Guest on 06.03.13 0:48

Dear John,

After my last declaration of adherence, some of the forum suggested I shut up and pmd you instead.

How?

Never mind. I was educated by someone shrapnelled at the Dardanelles with no left cheek to speak of. And Cambridge.

You told me -together with many others- to get out and look elsewhere for fun & games.

I'm still here.

We will see this to the end.

Are you, by any chance, dear Desmond himself? That would be nice. And it would not surprise me at all.

Good hunting!

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Post by Miraflores on 06.03.13 1:47

I must confess, the Blacksmith has got me completely baffled this time. Has Amaral settled or is the trial going ahead?

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Post by aiyoyo on 06.03.13 6:57

After that last piece "I'll begin..." which was a self aggrandizement piece about me me me what I had done and how connected I am to sources from both camp....only to come up with this conclusion that doesnt say much .....hmmm.....not sure what point BS is making any more.

I thought he made this point in his piece "sitting pretty'. Then he gave us three more pieces expanding the same point? What?


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Post by rainbow-fairy on 06.03.13 7:11

@Miraflores wrote:I must confess, the Blacksmith has got me completely baffled this time. Has Amaral settled or is the trial going ahead?
Hi Miraflores, fwiw, how I read that piece was that the conclusion was its the McCanns who feel in trouble over all this, and Amaral most certainly hasn't settled. Just my take smilie

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Post by Guest on 06.03.13 9:04

I have always found Blacksmith interesting reading somtimes having to read it more than once, he certainly gives you food for thought. Somtimes I wonder if he knows a lot more than he says and just drip feeds info but nothing concrete, he seems to put a different spin on things we already know.

I have always thought that the media are sitting on vital information on the McCanns then when the truth is out there they will all claim exclusives.

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Post by Miraflores on 06.03.13 9:21

Cherry Blossom wrote:........................... then when the truth is out there they will all claim exclusives.

Most definitely. They would have a real bonanza and sell shed loads of extra copies.

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Post by aiyoyo on 06.03.13 9:49

@rainbow-fairy wrote:
@Miraflores wrote:I must confess, the Blacksmith has got me completely baffled this time. Has Amaral settled or is the trial going ahead?
Hi Miraflores, fwiw, how I read that piece was that the conclusion was its the McCanns who feel in trouble over all this, and Amaral most certainly hasn't settled. Just my take smilie

My take too that he's confirming that it was the Mccanns who asked to settle with Amaral.
Hasn't it been reported on the other site that no settlement was reached, and the case goes back to Court awaiting trial date.

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Post by Montclair on 06.03.13 10:24

@aiyoyo wrote:
@rainbow-fairy wrote:
@Miraflores wrote:I must confess, the Blacksmith has got me completely baffled this time. Has Amaral settled or is the trial going ahead?
Hi Miraflores, fwiw, how I read that piece was that the conclusion was its the McCanns who feel in trouble over all this, and Amaral most certainly hasn't settled. Just my take

My take too that he's confirming that it was the Mccanns who asked to settle with Amaral.
Hasn't it been reported on the other site that no settlement was reached, and the case goes back to Court awaiting trial date.
It was confirmed in the newspapers here in Portugal that no settlement had been reached and the case goes to court.
Personally, I enjoy Blacksmith's postings and even the ones that upset me earlier at the time of the injunction did prove to be on the spot. I don't care whether anyone thinks that he likes to make himself look important or whatever, he does get out a lot of information, especially about the McCanns wanting to settle. I had found out the day before his post and I said to myself that this news will be out on the internet the next day and it was. I have no idea who his source was but he had it right.

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Post by jd on 06.03.13 12:40

Who said we have a free and democratic press in the UK. If they can report in Portugal what is happening why is there a media blackout in the UK? Why are the media not allowed to report even just the 'news' of what has happened or is happening? Its only whether a settlement has been agreed or not so why the media blackout?

From the Blacksmith article, I interpret this as Blacksmith saying that both sides have reached an agreement, an agreement on GA's terms and it is over and finished...No trial

The important part of this article which Blacksmith wants to say is in red which when joined together says " I'm checking with Kate on this one...Unfounded and not based on fact"...I interpret this in 2 ways

1) The obvious direct - Rumours of a settlement are not true, thereby a court date will be set
2) In context of the article as a whole, Blacksmith is saying that when the mccanns want to be silent but are forced to say something then they will lie, as he quoted from kate mccanns book. The last 3 FB messages he quoted to FM campaign, the 3rd one is the one that is lying. Also, GA at the end of the article saying after he had won his appeal "...he said nothing, absolutely nothing...." It is with the whole article in mind that I think Blacksmith is saying a settlement has been agreed and both parties are being silent about it, for reasons which he has demonstrated

I have no idea who Blacksmith is, he has been seen to change like the wind, attacked genuine people on the same level as the likes of muratfan, yet at times has proven to be correct with his informations, he also admits in this article that he likes to say things in a certain way to get reactions from people 'just for his fun'....Only time will tell if he is correct what he is saying in this article, he does seem to be sure in himself that he is. As we have a totally government controlled media in the UK we will never find out this way, perhaps we might via Portugal, but only time will tell us whether Blacksmith is correct and this will probably mean having to wait another 4 months until the 6 month period has passed. If there still no news on the trial by then, one can assume a settlement was reached and both sides are being silent about it. Blacksmith has also been a bit clever with this article as a whole by covering both scenarios with what he highlights in red, but the article is clearly saying the mccanns do lie when they wish to be silent and are pushed into a corner. I also question why he can't just write it straight what he says he knows has happened, but maybe he likes the fun of the riddles and/or maybe taking into consideration both the mccanns and GA are being silent this is his only away of getting the information across. The same as Paulo Cristovão's book....Only time will tell

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Post by tiny on 06.03.13 13:02

@Portia wrote:Dear John,

After my last declaration of adherence, some of the forum suggested I shut up and pmd you instead.

How?

Never mind. I was educated by someone shrapnelled at the Dardanelles with no left cheek to speak of. And Cambridge.

You told me -together with many others- to get out and look elsewhere for fun & games.

I'm still here.

We will see this to the end.

Are you, by any chance, dear Desmond himself? That would be nice. And it would not surprise me at all.

Good hunting!
portia,is this something private between you and blacksmith, if not can you tell us what you mean as your posts are quite puzzling but they sound interesting

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Post by aiyoyo on 06.03.13 14:35

@jd wrote:Who said we have a free and democratic press in the UK. If they can report in Portugal what is happening why is there a media blackout in the UK? Why are the media not allowed to report even just the 'news' of what has happened or is happening? Its only whether a settlement has been agreed or not so why the media blackout?

From the Blacksmith article, I interpret this as Blacksmith saying that both sides have reached an agreement, an agreement on GA's terms and it is over and finished...No trial

The important part of this article which Blacksmith wants to say is in red which when joined together says " I'm checking with Kate on this one...Unfounded and not based on fact"...I interpret this in 2 ways

1) The obvious direct - Rumours of a settlement are not true, thereby a court date will be set
2) In context of the article as a whole, Blacksmith is saying that when the mccanns want to be silent but are forced to say something then they will lie, as he quoted from kate mccanns book. The last 3 FB messages he quoted to FM campaign, the 3rd one is the one that is lying. Also, GA at the end of the article saying after he had won his appeal "...he said nothing, absolutely nothing...." It is with the whole article in mind that I think Blacksmith is saying a settlement has been agreed and both parties are being silent about it, for reasons which he has demonstrated

I have no idea who Blacksmith is, he has been seen to change like the wind, attacked genuine people on the same level as the likes of muratfan, yet at times has proven to be correct with his informations, he also admits in this article that he likes to say things in a certain way to get reactions from people 'just for his fun'....Only time will tell if he is correct what he is saying in this article, he does seem to be sure in himself that he is. As we have a totally government controlled media in the UK we will never find out this way, perhaps we might via Portugal, but only time will tell us whether Blacksmith is correct and this will probably mean having to wait another 4 months until the 6 month period has passed. If there still no news on the trial by then, one can assume a settlement was reached and both sides are being silent about it. Blacksmith has also been a bit clever with this article as a whole by covering both scenarios with what he highlights in red, but the article is clearly saying the mccanns do lie when they wish to be silent and are pushed into a corner. I also question why he can't just write it straight what he says he knows has happened, but maybe he likes the fun of the riddles and/or maybe taking into consideration both the mccanns and GA are being silent this is his only away of getting the information across. The same as Paulo Cristovão's book....Only time will tell

BS is just tolling with people's emotion.
He's beating round the bush with all these superfluous words to get to one point which is yet to be proven right or wrong.
Never has so many words been wasted just to make one point, and not a v. clear one at that.

Nevertheless he has entertainment value. Let's see how long he keeps this up.....and to what end?




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Post by jd on 06.03.13 15:02

@aiyoyo wrote:
BS is just tolling with people's emotion.
He's beating round the bush with all these superfluous words to get to one point which is yet to be proven right or wrong.
Never has so many words been wasted just to make one point, and not a v. clear one at that.

Nevertheless he has entertainment value. Let's see how long he keeps this up.....and to what end?

I have no idea what he is really up to. I only made my observations on what I thought he was trying to say, though I could have just as easily misunderstood them. He has admitted he likes to have his fun, but it also makes sense to say things in riddles if it is true that both the mccanns and GA are being silent. He has set his stall now with this article and only time will tell his credibility

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Post by Casey5 on 06.03.13 16:04

I enjoy Blacksmith's posts very much, even the ones I can't understand.
In this latest article he states that the press do not have drawers full of McCann related stories ready to unleash when needed. But then he says he was approached by a couple of journalists from different newspapers wanting information on the proposed settlement.
My question is why? If the papers aren't keeping info on the McCanns and don't ever print anything of a derogatory nature then why would they exert themselves in an effort to find out if the McCanns' had folded?
If they find that the McCanns' have fell on their sword then they won't print and apparently don't store it so why bother?

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Post by aiyoyo on 06.03.13 16:07

From his superfluous words what came across is that that Mccanns asked for the settlement, none was reached, the trial is going ahead, mccanns are facing comprehensive defeat; and BS feels sorry for them, no eyes to watch their boat sink to the bottom of the sea, so won't comment further on them.

In other words, he's saying his little bureau is retiring once the mccanns comprehensive list of defeats emerge from Court, and BS will walk away from it all. Then maybe he will reveal his true identity at that point, and may turn out to be a journalist with the rag.

He's certainly enjoys a cat and mouse game with his audience.



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Post by jd on 06.03.13 16:32

@Casey5 wrote:I enjoy Blacksmith's posts very much, even the ones I can't understand.
In this latest article he states that the press do not have drawers full of McCann related stories ready to unleash when needed. But then he says he was approached by a couple of journalists from different newspapers wanting information on the proposed settlement.
My question is why? If the papers aren't keeping info on the McCanns and don't ever print anything of a derogatory nature then why would they exert themselves in an effort to find out if the McCanns' had folded?
If they find that the McCanns' have fell on their sword then they won't print and apparently don't store it so why bother?

I interpreted this as a convoluted way of saying the press are being kept silent...which clearly they are if they are not even going to be able to print basic information on whether a settlement has or not been agreed between both parties

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Post by jd on 06.03.13 16:33

@aiyoyo wrote:
He's certainly enjoys a cat and mouse game with his audience.

Yes I think so most definately

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Post by Trainer on 06.03.13 21:50

Super injunction ? If bs is an affiliated member of the press he can't comment

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