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Post by Inspectorfrost on 26.02.13 21:52

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/hougaard-warned-reeva-1.1476166

Dont know how much of this is true or rumour, but there might be a motive, jealousy.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by olipet on 26.02.13 22:28

A sad dark murky event and one I would not want to speculate on. Very sad that Reeva has died and very sad to see OP in such extreme distress. Wouldn't begin to compare this with MM disappearance by a stretch. All involved are seemingly truly truly broken.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by aiyoyo on 27.02.13 4:08

Every murder has a motive and with a young couple with past, and freshly dating from past relationships it is always jealousy, ie if this is a crime of passion.

If her ex did send her a Valentine-day message then the message will be part of her phone records, which may or may not have anything
to do with the reason for her murder.

A person violence in nature needs very little excuse to flare up, and if not pacified quickly cant go out of control. So any factor could have caused the fit of fury leading to the tragedy. He may even have perceived something that wasn't there and worked himself into a frenzy because some people are just possessive by nature. Combined possessiveness with violent streak then it is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by olipet on 27.02.13 22:43

look this tragedy may be exactly as it has been presented by the defence. i don't think it is pleasant to be judging like this at this time. this is not the case of the mccanns and their daughter madeleine - ie. no one helped the police etc. OP has done everything requested by him and is currently allegedly mourning so i reckon give them all a bit of privacy and respect. opinions on motive and lovers tiffs is salacious behaviour and fine for the dinner party with friends but not here for all to read and get their jollies - my personal opinion.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by Inspectorfrost on 27.02.13 22:45

@olipet wrote:look this tragedy may be exactly as it has been presented by the defence. i don't think it is pleasant to be judging like this at this time. this is not the case of the mccanns and their daughter madeleine - ie. no one helped the police etc. OP has done everything requested by him and is currently allegedly mourning so i reckon give them all a bit of privacy and respect. opinions on motive and lovers tiffs is salacious behaviour and fine for the dinner party with friends but not here for all to read and get their jollies - my personal opinion.

Not getting my jollies by any death here thanks olie

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by tiny on 12.03.13 14:48

on sky(online)yesterday.

Oscar Pistorius Wants To Leave South Africa

Lawyers for the Olympic star say he should have the option of travelling outside South Africa while on bail charged with murder.

I bet he does

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by Guest on 12.03.13 14:50

Perhaps he plans to join Srien Dewani over here in the UK and delay extradition proceedings for years on end.......

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Post by tiny on 12.03.13 14:52

Jean wrote:Perhaps he plans to join Srien Dewani over here in the UK and delay extradition proceedings for years on end.......
I thought exactly the same.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by jd on 12.03.13 18:15

PRETORIA, South Africa — The lead investigator in the murder case against Oscar Pistorius faces attempted murder charges himself over a 2011 shooting, police said Thursday.

South Africa's National Prosecuting Authority acknowledged that the timing of attempted murder charges against a police detective leading the investigation into Oscar Pistorius is "totally weird" and that he should be dropped from the case against the world-famous athlete.

Bulewa Makeke, spokeswoman for the NPA, said Thursday that detective Hilton Botha should be replaced, but that it's a decision for police and not prosecutors.

Malila said police learned Wednesday, the same day that Botha appeared in court to oppose Pistorius' bail application, that the charges against Botha and the two others had been reinstated by the Director of Public Prosecutions. They were initially dropped following the shooting incident.

http://news.msn.com/world/police-pistorius-detective-faces-attempted-murder-charges

.....Remind you of someone else in another case?

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by Guest on 12.03.13 21:23

Oh, yeah ...

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by aiyoyo on 13.03.13 2:33

@tiny wrote:on sky(online)yesterday.

Oscar Pistorius Wants To Leave South Africa

Lawyers for the Olympic star say he should have the option of travelling outside South Africa while on bail charged with murder.

I bet he does

He said he did not run away from the crime scene, won't take flight if allowed bail, now this......

Behavior of an innocent? Not on a jollie me....but isn't it so obvious?

It was reported he will be sentenced to jail regardless whether the charge be premeditated murder or culpable homicide or negligence homicide as he knowingly shot a person knowing that person is in a confined cubicle and cant go any where.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by aquila on 13.03.13 9:45

According to South African newspapers it seems OP's legal team are trying to change the bail conditions. His uncle Arnold owns a farm in Mozambique and would like to take OP there to get away from media attention, hence the need to get his passport back.

It's a bit rich imo to try and change the bail conditions to allow him to leave South Africa. He was fortunate to be granted bail.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/oscar-s-uncle-wants-to-take-him-to-moz-1.1484657

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by jd on 13.03.13 11:56

2011...

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by plebgate on 13.03.13 19:06

If he wants to change his bail conditions would that mean another hearing before the judge? If the judge knows he want to leave the country then he might decide that OP might be a flight risk and order him detained until the trial.
These people are never satisfied. Always want more and more. I think they really do believe the hype which surrounds them - made up by advertisers to sell, sell, sell.
Nobody really cares much about them. Once they are out of the news for a week or so they are forgottenby the public but it is amazing how many never seem to realise it.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by aquila on 14.03.13 12:33

I watched this documentary on BBC3 last night. It's now on News24 (SA).

http://www.news24.com/Multimedia/South-Africa/Oscar-Pistorius-What-Really-Happened-20130313

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by aiyoyo on 14.03.13 13:01

@plebgate wrote:If he wants to change his bail conditions would that mean another hearing before the judge? If the judge knows he want to leave the country then he might decide that OP might be a flight risk and order him detained until the trial.
These people are never satisfied. Always want more and more. I think they really do believe the hype which surrounds them - made up by advertisers to sell, sell, sell.
Nobody really cares much about them. Once they are out of the news for a week or so they are forgottenby the public but it is amazing how many never seem to realise it.


The excuse he used is pathetic. No matter where he intends to go, he will always be of interest to the local press, he wont be free from media attention.
No Judge would be stupid not to realise his ruse.





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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by sallypelt on 14.03.13 13:41

I watched the programme, too. What I can't get my head around is when OP said he got out of bed IN THE DARK, to bring in the fan and close the balcony doors. In the meantime, Reeva got out of bed which MUST have been in the dark, too, when she went to the toilet, as OP said he didn't turn on the light until after the shooting. So, why didn't Reeva turn on the light, or say something to OP as she passed him?

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by jozi on 14.03.13 15:23

@sallypelt wrote:I watched the programme, too. What I can't get my head around is when OP said he got out of bed IN THE DARK, to bring in the fan and close the balcony doors. In the meantime, Reeva got out of bed which MUST have been in the dark, too, when she went to the toilet, as OP said he didn't turn on the light until after the shooting. So, why didn't Reeva turn on the light, or say something to OP as she passed him?

None of his story makes any sense at all,I live in SA and we cannot shoot at any intruders, you have to fire a warning shot first and if your life is in danger then shoot. This is where the premeditated murder comes in. He thought there was an intruder in the toilet in the bathroom,even if there was, you cannot shoot.He's stuffed either way.

The first thing you do if you do hear a noise is check where everyone is,set off the alarm if you still think someone has broken in.Then arm yourself if you are still lucky to own a gun,the laws have changed so much here only the criminals have guns.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by Guest on 14.03.13 17:06

I still cannot get over the fact, that she locked herself into the toilet with her cellphone at 3am ...

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Post by jozi on 14.03.13 20:50

Châtelaine wrote:I still cannot get over the fact, that she locked herself into the toilet with her cellphone at 3am ...

I think she thought she was safer in the toilet and intended to phone someone to come and help her, but arguments escalate and I think he thought I will show you. come out and fired bang bang bang in quick succession. I don't think he intended to kill her but he has a temper and thinks he can do what he likes as most celebrities do. he has been in trouble before with his temper and through drink .This time it went horribly wrong though .

Her scull was crushed I have heard but was that because of the gun shot wound or the cricket bat found at the scene with blood on it ?
I suppose time will tell when the trial starts , trouble is we only have one version of the events that took place and have to sort the wheat from the chaff , poor Reeva is not here to tell her side !

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by Guest on 14.03.13 21:06

@ Jozi
"I think she thought she was safer in the toilet and intended to phone someone to come and help her"

That's exactly what I think too.
And it's a horrible picture I have in my head.

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Post by aiyoyo on 15.03.13 15:11

Châtelaine wrote:@ Jozi
"I think she thought she was safer in the toilet and intended to phone someone to come and help her"

That's exactly what I think too.
And it's a horrible picture I have in my head.

Yeap, that is an unusual time to bring phone into toilet. She must have meant to use it.

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by Guest on 28.03.13 9:51

Oscar Pistorius to appeal against bail conditions

Lawyers for South African athlete Oscar Pistorius, who is charged with murdering his girlfriend, are due to challenge his bail conditions at a court hearing.

His lawyers will argue that the Olympic and Paralympics star should be allowed to return to his home, and to travel.

Mr Pistorius also wants an end to supervision by a probation officer and compulsory drug and alcohol testing.



More on link..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21963862

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by aiyoyo on 28.03.13 11:42

Give him an inch and he wants a yard, Priceless!

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Re: Oscar Pistorius

Post by rainbow-fairy on 28.03.13 11:57

For a 'man' on bail for shooting and killing his girlfriend - that is not under dispute - he doesn't want much, does he? Bloody cheek.
I'm sure Reeva Steenkamp would have liked to see family, travel etc......
But that's not going to happen now is it?

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