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Post by willowthewisp on 14.07.16 18:10

Hi Roxyroo,the ones who exclude certain clients,who are of a different sex,who are excluded from the Brethryn Lodges, where they seek to Help their Brothers First and Foremost,"Without Fear Nor Favour"?

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Lord Janner: Eleven police officers and staff under investigation over handling of child sex abuse claims

Post by Doug D on 25.07.16 19:57

Do Redwood and his team need to start thinking about looking over their shoulders?
 
‘Nah, nothing to do wiv us guv, just doing as we waz told.’
 
No names as yet, but wouldn’t it be a turn up if Detective Superintendent Stuart Prior of Leicestershire Police or any of his mates were involved.
 
Even if the eleven are far removed from the McCann investigation, the underlying culture that allowed this to happen must raise serious questions about the whole Leicester force.
 
Lord Janner: Eleven police officers and staff under investigation over handling of child sex abuse claims
 
Martin Evans
 
25 JULY 2016 • 3:14PM
 
Eleven police officers or staff are under criminal investigation over their handling of child sex abuse allegations against late politician Lord Greville Janner.
 
The peer, who died aged 87 in December, is alleged to have abused children over a period spanning more than 30 years and dating back to the 1950s.
 
Police watchdog the Independent Police Complaints Commission has told 11 individuals that they are under investigation for both alleged criminal offences and gross misconduct, as part of an inquiry into Leicestershire Police's handling of the claims.
 
It would not reveal how many are police officers and how many are staff.
 
In January, a report by High Court judge Sir Richard Henriques found that failures by police and prosecutors meant three chances were missed to charge Lord Janner.
 
He said that in 1991, prosecutors made the wrong decision not to charge Lord Janner after an "inadequate" police investigation, in 2002 Leicestershire Police failed to pass claims made by a second alleged victim to prosecutors, and in 2007 a flawed decision was made not to charge the politician when a third man came forward.
 
The peer was later charged with a string of sexual offences dating back to the 1960s, but he died in December 2015, days after he was found unfit to stand trial at the Old Bailey.
 
A special hearing known as a trial of the facts was due to take place, but criminal proceedings were formally dropped in the wake of his death, leaving his nine alleged victims "devastated".
 
The Director of Public Prosecutions Alison Saunders was at the centre of a controversy after originally deciding Lord Janner, who had dementia, should not be charged because of his ill health. That decision was overturned by an independent review.
 
The claims against him are now being examined as part of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, chaired by Justice Lowell Goddard.
 
In March, a preliminary hearing was told that Lord Janner had abused children over a period spanning more than 30 years and dating back to the 1950s. It was claimed he had arranged for victims "in whom he had a sexual interest" to be brought to the Houses of Parliament.
 
A Leicestershire Police spokesman said: "We are aware of the progress being made by the Independent Police Complaints Commission in its investigation into how the force handled allegations made against Lord Janner, prior to 2014, when it launched Operation Enamel.
 
"As the investigation remains ongoing it would be inappropriate to comment any further at this stage."
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/25/lord-janner-eleven-police-officers-and-staff-under-investigation/

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Post by willowthewisp on 26.07.16 16:19

In the news are also Sir Bernard Hogan Howe, wanting to supress Operation Midland reports and other former high up ranking  ex Metropolitan Police Officers that had become involved with Allegations of Rape by a Girl against her Geography Teacher on at least Three occasions, of which the Geography Teacher was cleared at Crown Court this week.
It is No wonder the public are/have lost confidence in the UK Police Force,they are fast becoming a laughing stock, with their" Ex-Cops Ability" to suddenly be able to Glean information against the defendants case for the Prosecution,Mischon De Reya, Rape Trail?
How many more times must the public hear of the mendacity of Police Officers involvement to"Pervert the Course of Justice" yet when passed by the PCP Bleaching process, No Factual Evidence can be found just Allegations,not substantiated proof of a Crime?
Laughing Police man Blackpool spring to mind, "Catch Me If You Can"?

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Survivors must have a stronger voice in Goddard abuse inquiry

Post by Doug D on 26.07.16 19:35

Survivors must have a stronger voice in Goddard abuse inquiry
 
Phil Frampton
 
Tuesday 26 July 2016 10.00 BST
 
Justice Lowell Goddard, head of the inquiry. ‘The testimonies given to the inquiry by survivors will have no direct legal consequences.’
 
Despite public inquiries over the last two decades, such as the Waterhouse inquiry and the Utting report into child abuse in care homes, the institutions of government have failed to deliver justice for survivors or tackle child abuse. And official inquiries have repeatedly absolved central government and the establishment from guilt. Yet there is still no indication of when the £18m Goddard child abuse inquiry will hear evidence regarding high-level abuse and coverups at Westminster.
 
The inquiry’s truth project began this week but, sadly, the testimonies given to it by survivors will have no direct legal consequences and will only be used as ballast to the final inquiry report; a form of window dressing that may leave many survivors not only bound to secrecy about their testimony but also deeply distressed.
 
In announcing the initial inquiry two years ago, the then home secretary, Theresa May, declared its remit was to look into institutional responses to all child sex abuse allegations, whatever the circumstances. With estimates of the number of child abuse survivors stretching into the millions, many thought this was a clear signal the government would try to bury the Westminster scandals by casting the net too wide.
 
There were also indications the inquiry would have no powers to order key documents and witnesses. Only survivors’ brave and outspoken opposition prevented May’s appointment of Lady Butler-Sloss and then Fiona Woolf from heading the inquiry. Survivors’ groups such as Whiteflowers, to which I belong, organised vigils, protests and lobbies to focus the inquiry on the establishment and delivering justice for victims.
 
Survivors’ efforts also forced the government to give the inquiry statutory powers and remove the arbitrary 1970 cut-off point for abuse cases. May promised she would “put survivors at the heart of the inquiry”. But the new inquiry head, Justice Lowell Goddard, declared from the outset that she considered that child abuse survivors lacked the objectivity to have a decisive say in her inquiry. The victims’ panel, set up to provide a survivor voice, has been sidelined into being mere window dressing.
 
The only way for survivors to have a real say in the inquiry is as “core participants” who have the right to access inquiry papers and question witnesses. To date, Goddard has only permitted them to have involvement in small, splintered sections of the inquiry such as religious institutions and care homes.
 
In contrast, she has given core participant status to precisely those organisations that so terribly failed survivors: the Home Office, the Department of Education, the Crown Prosecution Service and the police. All are expected to be involved in almost every section of the inquiry and build evidence in their defence. Whiteflowers’ legal representatives from Howe & Co and Mansfield Chambers have applied for core participant status for organised groups of survivors. The first application was scheduled to be heard in the Royal Courts of Justice this week. If survivors are permitted to ask hard questions of institutions, it may prove uncomfortable for the government, but will demonstrate a more convincing effort to ensure “no stone will been left unturned” as promised by David Cameron when he was prime minister.
 
Without survivors being confident they have a strong, independent voice in the inquiry, it will inevitability be seen as another whitewash and a further abuse.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/26/survivors-must-have-stronger-voice-goddard-child-abuse-inquiry?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Post by Doug D on 26.07.16 20:31

Bit of bedtime reading for tonight.
 
22 pages of Emmerson’s opening remarks from today:
 
https://www.iicsa.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/2016-07-26-general-matters-relating-to-investigations-transcript.pdf

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Nothing of note in there that I could see.

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Post by willowthewisp on 27.07.16 13:52

Hi DougD, thanks for your posting and let us hope that the survivors of child abuse are able to resolve what has happened to them?
We can only hope their legal Team is able to participate in the,"Core Participant Status" part of the deliberations reached by Former Inquiries(Cover Ups)Bryn Estyn,Alyn,Lord Hague?
The World Wide abuse of Children seems to be organised by a prolific amount of upper Echelon's from their Societies clan establishment figures and the papers from the Marc Dutroux case prove how big and wide the abuse scale it covers,no wonder they tried to have his case heard in secrecy?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 27.07.16 23:18

@Doug D wrote:Do Redwood and his team need to start thinking about looking over their shoulders?
 
‘Nah, nothing to do wiv us guv, just doing as we waz told.’
 
No names as yet, but wouldn’t it be a turn up if Detective Superintendent Stuart Prior of Leicestershire Police or any of his mates were involved.
 
Even if the eleven are far removed from the McCann investigation, the underlying culture that allowed this to happen must raise serious questions about the whole Leicester force.
 
Lord Janner: Eleven police officers and staff under investigation over handling of child sex abuse claims
Indeed @ Doug D and thank you for posting this.

Yes, Detective Superintendent Stuart 'Call me Stu' Prior distinguished himself in more ways than just being on first name terms with the Tapas 9: "HI Gerry, Hi Dave, what can I do for you today?" 

He was the enabler of that ridiculous January 2008 News of the World article about 'Monsterman'/'George Harrison man' - he spent hours e-mailing Gerry and the PJ and others to make sure that the News of the World had a great scoop. Well done, Stu. You helped Rupert Murdoch make some extra money, even if you wasted weeks upon weeks of police time teeing up this story for the McCanns and the News of the World and even though you must have known it was complete and utter rubbish from start to finish.

But is there a much more important figure who may be under examination by the IPCC? - namely Detective Chief Superintendent Bob Small, Head of Leicestershire CID.

On the McCannFiles website (thanks once again to Nigel Moore) is a report in the Times Online dated Wednesday, 12 September - just three days after the McCanns flew back in a hurry form Portugal. This extract appeared in the Times article:  
    
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Yesterday was a day of significant developments that included:
 
— A visit to the McCanns’ home in Rothley, Leicestershire, by a senior CID officer.
 
(...)
 
Detective Chief Superintendent Bob Small, head of Leicestershire CID, spent an hour at the McCanns' home yesterday. The East Midlands force refused to confirm or comment on the visit.  

UNQUOTE   

So it was on Tuesday 11 September that DCS Bob Small spent an hour at the McCanns home. Why? To say: 'How was your trip back?'

On that same day ('madeleine', by Kate McCann, po. 264-5), we learn that the McCanns "had an 8am conference call with Michael Caplan Q.C., Angus McBride and Justine McGuiness...later that day Angus flew out to Lisbon for a meeting with Carlos Pinto de Abreu..."

The following day (12 September) "Gerry was contacted by Edward Smethurst, a commercial lawyer. He represented a businessman called Brian Kennedy...  Funny, that - as we now know from a variety of sources that Smethurst had been holidaying there with one or other of his three families ever since 1999. Maybe just one of those coincidences?

But back to DCS Bob Small. Did he influence, or rather, coach, Jane Tanner, on Monday 14 May?

As both the McCanns admit and Dr Goncalo Amaral explains in his book, Jane Tanner had a long conversation with DCS Bob Small immediately prior to Jane Tanner surprisingly identified Robert Murat as the man she had seen carrying a snall child at about 9.15pm on Thursday 3 May. Indeed, she was described as 'adamant' it was him.

Yet he didn't look like the man ('Bundleman') that we eventually saw in late October 2007 sketched out for us by 'F.B.I.-trained forensic artist Melissa Little.     

Tanner's identification of Murat set in motion a train of events >> the pulling in of Robert Murat for questioning >> Martin Smith jumping into action over in Drogheda...all within the next 48 hours. And in the following few hours, Rachael Oldfield, Fiona Payne and Russell O'Brien all made statements to the PJ maintaining that they had all seen Robert Murat hanging around near the Ocean Club at about 10.30pm to 11.00pm on the night Madeleine was reported missing.

So, it seems that as a direct result of whatever DCS Small said to Tanner, Murat became the chief suspect or the next four months. His influence on the conduct of thjs case has IMO been vastly underestimated.

Stuart Prior was a Detective Superintendent. he would have been what is called the 'Investigating Officer' in the case.

But Bob Small was a Detective Chief Superintendent - one rank higher. In all probability, he was the Senior Investigating Officer in the case, in other words, Prior's boss and the investigation co-ordinator for Leicestershire Police.

Was it Small, for example, who gave Gerry McCann that tour of the Leicestershire Police HQ at Enderby?

Jane Tanner also saw staff from Control Risks Group on Monday 14 May. Was DCS Small also at that meeting? Did they all instruct Tanner to identify Murat? These questions are surely at the very heart of this case.

So if Bob Small is one of the 11 Leicestershire Police officers suspected of covering up the crimes by Grevilie Janner and his extensive network, now under investigation by the IPCC, that could prove highly significant for those of us left investigating the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

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Post by Roxyroo on 28.07.16 0:55

Great post thank you Tony, made a lot of things clearer in my minds eye. yes

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Post by willowthewisp on 28.07.16 13:48

Seriously how are people supposed to trust the Police and the IPCC after a Fire Officer is awarded Money for the gross actions taken against him,when the Fire Office Manager was a potential witness to a Crime, but was arrested for "Obstructing the Police",this case was taken to the IPCC and No Police Officers are to be charged for the actions they took against an "Innocent" member of the public,false arrest?
The Metropolitan Police Service have written to the man arrested, but still fail to acknowledge their is a"Race Problem" within their structure?
It is quite clear that there has been a reason to "Suppress/Control the events what happened in Prai Da Luiz 3 May 2007 and have we witnessed another manipulation by the Police mendacity for the Truth to be heard?
It appears that all evidence obtained by "News Paper Editors" who were threatened by Police Officers of being Jailed for printing the up and coming reports to the public,have No bearing on the practices carried out by the Guilty person's involvement with the Editors printed stories,Elm guest House Byrn Alyn,Estyn, just figments of the imagination of(naughty children)attention seekers?
Let there be no doubt, there is an ongoing investigation costing well over £18 Million Pounds and it is not in the "Public Interest" for the findings to be aired in public, but behind closed doors without proper cross questioning being allowed on Government controlled establishments, even as they have been given a clean bill of"No Paedophile Association" by these salubrious person's,Lord Hague?
The Chief of Police in Wales has not been charged with any negligent actions, whilst he was in charge of Police during the abuses carried out at Bryn Alyn,Estyn Care Homes,evidence suppressed in the House of Commons, when raised by Ann Clwyd,nearly Thirty years ago?
Anyone seen Channel 4 Dispatches programme Wednesday 26 July 2016 and the Metropolitan Police Service?

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Post by Doug D on 01.08.16 22:15

Lord Janner abuse inquiry 'grotesque and Kafkaesque'
 
22 minutes ago 
From the section 
UK
 
The daughter of the late Labour MP and peer Lord Janner has called an upcoming inquiry into child abuse allegations against him "grotesque and Kafkaesque".
 
Speaking to BBC Newsnight in her first interview on the subject, Marion Janner said it amounted to accusations against "a corpse".
 
In December 2015, shortly before his death, Lord Janner was ruled unfit to stand trial because of dementia.
 
The Goddard inquiry is due to hold public hearings into the allegations.


The allegations against Lord Janner are set to be the first of 13 topics which the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, led by Justice Goddard, will examine.
 
The family has always denied the allegations.
 
'Cannot be just'
 
"It's an outrage. It's an absolute outrage," Marion Janner told Newsnight.
"Now Dad is dead. There's not the possibility of the other side of the story being heard. It's the people making the accusations word against a corpse, which doesn't work. It cannot be just," she said.
 
"The other 12 strands are all institutions - big institutions... If they had decided to look at individuals, they could have chosen someone who was alive and convicted - instead they have chosen someone who is dead and not convicted."
 
A preliminary hearing was told that 17 complainants in the Janner case had been given core participant status in the inquiry, meaning they have the right to make statements, see documents and seek permission to ask questions.
 
The offences are alleged to have taken place in children's homes and hotels between 1955 and 1988.
 
The peer had been on a leave of absence from the House of Lords since October 2014. He died in December 2015.
 
Lawyers for the alleged victims say their clients have been waiting years for justice.
 
'News blackout'
 
Marion Janner says the family has evidence Lord Janner could not have committed the crimes he is accused of, which will emerge during civil cases against him.
 
She says the family is particularly unhappy that witnesses in the Goddard inquiry will not be cross examined.
 
"The pendulum has swung so far that people making accusations are automatically believed over this most serious of crimes... We're in the current situation that people can make any accusations and be automatically believed... It's just bonkers."
 
Mrs Janer said her father's relationship with one of the complainants was "not strange for somebody of Dad's generation".
 
"Dad was fired up with the sense of social justice... He was just really committed to helping people whose lives were so much harder. And because we have such a loving family, I think Dad really felt for people who didn't have a family at all, and were stuck in a children's home."
 
At the end of his life, Mrs Janner says her father was "completely unaware" of the allegations against him "because he didn't have the cognitive understanding to grasp what was going on".
 
"We had a news blackout in the house - as much for my sanity as his. But he just would have been completely bewildered of pictures of him keep popping up on the television"
 
"He had absolutely no idea - which was one of the blessings of his dementia."
 
Watch Evan Davis' full interview with Marion Janner on Newsnight at 22:30 BST on BBC Two - or catch up afterwards on iPlayer
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36945958
 
…………………………………………………………..
 
Snipped from post 25/7/16 @ 19.57 above:
 
In January, a report by High Court judge Sir Richard Henriques found that failures by police and prosecutors meant three chances were missed to charge Lord Janner.
 
He said that in 1991, prosecutors made the wrong decision not to charge Lord Janner after an "inadequate" police investigation, in 2002 Leicestershire Police failed to pass claims made by a second alleged victim to prosecutors, and in 2007 a flawed decision was made not to charge the politician when a third man came forward.
 
So if the family have evidence that he could not have committed the crimes, why last weeks announcement of a move against the eleven police officers or staff who are under criminal investigation over their handling of child sex abuse allegations against late politician Lord Greville Janner?
 
Oh what a tangled web we weave…………………
  
Not sure how up to date this BBC interview is going to be as it says above:

the Janner issue is 'set to be the first of 13 topics which the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, led by Justice Goddard, will examine'

but last weeks Emmerson introduction revealed a delay until next March for this one, due to this criminal investigation having been announced, so I suspect that this programme/interview may well have preceded this.

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Post by sar on 01.08.16 23:13

@Doug D wrote:Lord Janner abuse inquiry 'grotesque and Kafkaesque'
 
22 minutes ago 
From the section 
UK
 
The daughter of the late Labour MP and peer Lord Janner has called an upcoming inquiry into child abuse allegations against him "grotesque and Kafkaesque".
 
Speaking to BBC Newsnight in her first interview on the subject, Marion Janner said it amounted to accusations against "a corpse".
 
In December 2015, shortly before his death, Lord Janner was ruled unfit to stand trial because of dementia.
 
The Goddard inquiry is due to hold public hearings into the allegations.


The allegations against Lord Janner are set to be the first of 13 topics which the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, led by Justice Goddard, will examine.
 
The family has always denied the allegations.
 
'Cannot be just'
 
"It's an outrage. It's an absolute outrage," Marion Janner told Newsnight.
"Now Dad is dead. There's not the possibility of the other side of the story being heard. It's the people making the accusations word against a corpse, which doesn't work. It cannot be just," she said.
 
"The other 12 strands are all institutions - big institutions... If they had decided to look at individuals, they could have chosen someone who was alive and convicted - instead they have chosen someone who is dead and not convicted."
 
A preliminary hearing was told that 17 complainants in the Janner case had been given core participant status in the inquiry, meaning they have the right to make statements, see documents and seek permission to ask questions.
 
The offences are alleged to have taken place in children's homes and hotels between 1955 and 1988.
 
The peer had been on a leave of absence from the House of Lords since October 2014. He died in December 2015.
 
Lawyers for the alleged victims say their clients have been waiting years for justice.
 
'News blackout'
 
Marion Janner says the family has evidence Lord Janner could not have committed the crimes he is accused of, which will emerge during civil cases against him.
 
She says the family is particularly unhappy that witnesses in the Goddard inquiry will not be cross examined.
 
"The pendulum has swung so far that people making accusations are automatically believed over this most serious of crimes... We're in the current situation that people can make any accusations and be automatically believed... It's just bonkers."
 
Mrs Janer said her father's relationship with one of the complainants was "not strange for somebody of Dad's generation".
 
"Dad was fired up with the sense of social justice... He was just really committed to helping people whose lives were so much harder. And because we have such a loving family, I think Dad really felt for people who didn't have a family at all, and were stuck in a children's home."
 
At the end of his life, Mrs Janner says her father was "completely unaware" of the allegations against him "because he didn't have the cognitive understanding to grasp what was going on".
 
"We had a news blackout in the house - as much for my sanity as his. But he just would have been completely bewildered of pictures of him keep popping up on the television"
 
"He had absolutely no idea - which was one of the blessings of his dementia."
 
Watch Evan Davis' full interview with Marion Janner on Newsnight at 22:30 BST on BBC Two - or catch up afterwards on iPlayer
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36945958
 
…………………………………………………………..
 
Snipped from post 25/7/16 @ 19.57 above:
 
In January, a report by High Court judge Sir Richard Henriques found that failures by police and prosecutors meant three chances were missed to charge Lord Janner.
 
He said that in 1991, prosecutors made the wrong decision not to charge Lord Janner after an "inadequate" police investigation, in 2002 Leicestershire Police failed to pass claims made by a second alleged victim to prosecutors, and in 2007 a flawed decision was made not to charge the politician when a third man came forward.
 
So if the family have evidence that he could not have committed the crimes, why last weeks announcement of a move against the eleven police officers or staff who are under criminal investigation over their handling of child sex abuse allegations against late politician Lord Greville Janner?
 
Oh what a tangled web we weave…………………
  
Not sure how up to date this BBC interview is going to be as it says above:

the Janner issue is 'set to be the first of 13 topics which the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, led by Justice Goddard, will examine'

but last weeks Emmerson introduction revealed a delay until next March for this one, due to this criminal investigation having been announced, so I suspect that this programme/interview may well have preceded this.
Thanks Doug D, just seen Newsnight.  

F**king disgraceful!!!!  Why oh why does she get a quasi intellectual platform to promulgate the view that it's her father who is the victim!!!!!???  Completely mental.  This sort of peterfile sympathising will never end.  Maybe it was the real reason behind the french revolution?   I seriously question much of what I have read, learned, seen or heard in the last 40 or so years.  Why do we have to listen to these "see you next tuesdays" defend their parents vile ways???  If you read The Godfather the reason behind the horses' head in the bed are made completely clear.  Something I understand is never touched in the film??

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Post by Roxyroo on 01.08.16 23:53

Jesus, just sounds like another whitewash to me. And some of what the daughter says is true, why is the focus not on LIVING suspects, always the dead and buried! aaagh

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Post by willowthewisp on 02.08.16 11:06

@Roxyroo wrote:Jesus, just sounds like another whitewash to me. And some of what the daughter says is true, why is the focus not on LIVING suspects, always the dead and buried! aaagh
Roxyroo,if the Po(lice) had carried out their duties properly in the First place, Marion Janner would have no need to be carpet bagging of her Father's protracted innocence, of having young adolescents stay with your Dad, whilst your Mother and the rest of the family were not present either,when and where the alleged abuse had taken place?
Marion Janner also failed to raise the untimely deaths of Frank Beck and his Solicitor who were appealing his sentence on child abuse, notably Mr Beck tried to prevent GJ from having access to young adolescent,who (GJ)had taken to the House of Commons and his own home(as above) and the Leicestershire Police Force were aware of Mr Janner's conduct,alongside oily Keith Vaz?
Ask your self why the Police have found all the evidence to prosecute the Media and DJ's on child abuse but seemingly unable to find any evidence against the"Learned Friends" from the House of ill repute?

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Post by Doug D on 03.08.16 14:02

Six weeks old, but I haven’t seen this before:
 
They think they've got away: How to catch a historical sex offender
 
Alex Smith BBC News
20 June 2016 
From the section 
Nottingham
 
Sex offenders think they'll get away with it. And often they do. Sometimes it can take years to bring them to justice, while others escape retribution altogether. So how do you go about making sure perpetrators of horrendous crimes committed in the distant past are caught and convicted?
 
As the years pass, abusers increasingly have the upper hand. Undetected, they can build up seemingly respectable lives. Even if convicted, elderly prisoners spend less time in jail simply because they don't have as long to live.
 
They also have the advantage of the vagaries of memory. Victims may have blocked out the abuse they suffered. Evidence - often one person's word against another's - can be hazy and conflicting, easy to cast doubt upon.
 
The people speaking out were in many cases children at the time of their suffering - and children can readily be portrayed by defence barristers as suggestible and easily confused.
 
The accused has no criminal record and appears to be a clean-living and valued member of society. Doubt sneaks in. And in a court of law, once doubt sneaks in, the prosecution's case can founder. The verdict? Not guilty.
 
So exactly what is the process of tackling these inbuilt disadvantages an accuser faces?
 
The abuse
 
Obviously, the first step of the process is the occurrence of abuse. Widespread at some care homes, schools, and youth detention centres, it often went unchecked until the victims could leave, the home was closed or the abuser moved on. In the past, vulnerable children were more likely to be seen as trouble-makers and less likely to be believed.
 
Even when concerns were raised, they were often dismissed. For example, at St Gilbert's - an approved boys' home for "young delinquents" in Worcestershire - pupils were beaten and raped by a religious order of Christian Brothers - despite the authorities knowing about one teacher having sex offence convictions, parents complaining and pupils telling the police.
 
An official investigation only opened in 2014. Most of the brothers are dead. They got away with it.
 
There are a number of ongoing investigations and inquiries - criminal and otherwise - into historical abuse allegations at institutions across the UK.
 
A guide to the key inquiries and their scope
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28194271
 
Coming forward
 
If anything good could possibly come of Jimmy Savile's decades-long reign of abuse, it could be what has been dubbed "the Savile effect". In the wake of the scandal the number of historical sex offences recorded by police rose by 9%.
 
The National Association of People Abused in Childhood said victims now felt more confident about speaking out.
 
The actress Samantha Morton, who spent most of her childhood in foster homes or residential care in Nottingham, is one of many people who have come forward later in life with allegations of abuse during childhood.
 
"Nottingham in the 80s was rife with that [abuse from people in social services]," the Bafta and Golden Globe-winning actress said in 2014.
 
While the local force has said it has no record of the 39-year-old's complaint, two ongoing, separate operations by Nottinghamshire Police have provided an insight into the intricate nature of a historical sex abuse investigation.
 
Abuse at a number of former care homes, schools and a youth detention centre in Nottinghamshire between the 1940s and the 1990s is being investigated under Operations Daybreak and Xeres, which resulted in Andris Logins and Ivor Bethell being given significant jail terms.
 
To help explain how an investigation into men like Logins and Bethell reaches a conclusion, Nottinghamshire Police and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) have guided the BBC through the process, from the moment an allegation of historical sexual abuse is made - to the emotional aftermath of a conviction.
 
The evidence
 
Supt Helen Chamberlain, from Nottinghamshire Police, says offences that happened a long time ago are especially difficult to deal with.
 
"If somebody were to complain they've been sexually assaulted in the street or abused in the home, what we have is very quick evidence from an alleged victim, forensic evidence which we can call on, and evidence from an offender if we catch them at the same time," she said.
 
"We've got scenes we can examine, CCTV, mobile phone and tablet data...but if somebody says they were sexually abused 40 years ago, you've got none of that available.
 
"You start going through files of schools, local authorities, some of which will have gone through the natural destruction process.
 
"It is not to say we don't believe the victims, but it is about trying to get sufficient evidence to corroborate their account."
 
The 'belief factor'
 
According to one former Nottinghamshire Police officer, Jonathan Nicholas - who worked at the force for 30 years - belief was a "major factor" in alleged sex offences that previously attracted little or no formal action.
 
"There are several reasons: idle cops, untrained cops, the sheer cost and targets pressure. These are all in the mix at differing levels and in different cases," Mr Nicholas says.
 
"The cynical attitude of untrained and unsympathetic cops in the first instance which caused the victims not to be believed was a major factor."
 
While it is accepted societal attitudes have changed, giving more victims the confidence to come forward, there is a viewpoint that "the scales of justice" remain heavily balanced in favour of the perpetrator.
 
Jon Brown, head of development and impact at the NSPCC, said: "Cases like Savile have prompted victims to now come forward, but their recollections can be hazy, conflicting, sometimes sketchy, and combined with the lack of evidence, the perpetrator often will maintain their innocence on the basis of that.
 
"In criminal law, a case needs to be found beyond reasonable doubt. That makes it incredibly difficult to secure a conviction for historical sex abuse offences.
 
"It would be right to say the scales of justice are weighed pretty heavily in favour of the perpetrator - and the police and the perpetrators recognise that."
 
Building a case
 
So how do detectives and prosecutors build a case?
 
Janine Smith, chief crown prosecutor for the CPS in the East Midlands, said: "If you've got other victims, and if these victims are not necessarily known to each other or not had any sort of relationship with each other, that goes to show the credibility.
 
"Are all these people making up the same thing that happened to them by the same individual in similar circumstances?"
 
CPS East Midlands is part of a national pilot that sees a CPS lawyer based in a local police station to offer advice and guidance in the early, pre-charge stages of an investigation.
 
That means, according to Supt Chamberlain, it is now "rare" that officers spend time building a case against a historical sex offender, only for it to be dropped by the CPS.
 
Strength in numbers, in terms of victims, can also be achieved through media communications made by the police, the NSPCC's Mr Brown said.
 
"Lawyers will object to it, saying it's a fishing expedition, but if it recognises abuse is rarely perpetrated against one victim, how difficult it can be for victims to come forward and the like, then sometimes it can be very important for these communications to be made by the police," he said.
 
In court
 
The judicial process in the UK is adversarial. Lawyers for each party argue it out, each trying to convince the jury. Aspersions are cast, doubts sown, characters ripped to pieces.
 
Mrs Smith said that while lawyers tend not to use the courtroom as a stage, there can be an element of bravado as both the prosecution and defence counsel strive to present a clear, engaging case to the jury.
 
"It's something that can be used to great effect, once you're satisfied that the case passes the code test," she said. "There's a lot of thought that can go into cases about presentational issues.
 
"We have to present it in a way that the jury understand and their attention is captured, and the defence will do exactly the same.
 
"It's not doing anything underhand and it's what we would expect from prosecuting counsel."
 
Behind the pomp and ceremony, there are witnesses and victims, many of whom may be strangers to a courtroom and terrified of giving evidence, in part due to the prospect of being grilled by a seasoned advocate.
 
One victim went to the police more than two decades ago, but no charges were brought due to a lack of evidence.
 
Before her abuser Roger Caffrey was eventually jailed for 17 years for her rape, among other offences against other victims, she told Nottingham Crown Court: "I took this to the police 22 years ago and I thought justice would be done. It was one word against another."
 
Caffrey, a teacher, began touching another victim over and under her clothing in his classroom store cupboard or while she read aloud in class.
 
She later told the BBC: "He was a teacher, he was in a position of authority," the victim said. "Physically, he was a big, imposing character. He had big hands, I was just a little child. The police came to me. My name had been given as a possible victim or witness.
 
"I was relieved more than anything. I thought it was about time the truth came out - he'd got away with it for too long."
 
The improvements
 
Supt Chamberlain said Nottinghamshire Police has just finished some training with the CPS around credibility, meaning the credibility of events - rather than the credibility of the alleged victim - is questioned in court.
 
"What you don't see in court are rape victims, for example, being asked what they were wearing or what they were doing on their own," she said. "What we're trying to do is make the evidence more 'victim-centric' and give more focus to the victim.
 
"For example, the defence, prosecution and the CPS will sit down and decide what questions will be asked during cross-examination."
 
The aftermath
 
Figures obtained by the BBC revealed Operation Daybreak has now received 391 separate allegations, while another 223 complaints have been made to Operation Xeres.
 
Nottinghamshire Police said 236 people have been named as perpetrators across the two inquiries - although 24 of those alleged abusers died before they could be investigated.
 
Despite reports of sex offences continuing to rise, Supt Chamberlain said some victims may never feel confident enough to come forward.
 
"It's not stopped increasing so it's hard to say when the tap's going to turn off because I don't think it will," she said.
 
"It's very sad to know there are people out there who have suffered abuse in the past and haven't come forward.
 
"It's unfortunate, but the criminal justice process has improved tremendously to give people the chance to tell their account, be supported and get the case to court."
 
In the words of one of Caffrey's victims: "I wasn't even particularly bothered that he would get a huge, long sentence. I just wanted somebody to say, 'you're guilty, you did this' and that we were believed.
 
"I didn't feel sorry for him at all but a bit sad. That's his life and that's the sort of person he chose to be. A good teacher is someone you remember for the rest of your life and he could have been that teacher, but he wasn't, he was the worst kind of teacher.
 
"That's his legacy now… and now he's going to end his days in shame."
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-36055744

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Post by willowthewisp on 03.08.16 16:53

Hi DougD, thanks for the article,I have just had a quick glance at the"code Test",after the quick perusal,it is no wonder that there is a difficulty bringing prosecutions,if they have to pass the "presumption of innocence" alongside the code test practices, to proceed to a prosecution?

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Post by Doug D on 04.08.16 8:06

'The Times' tries a different tack to rubbish the CSA inquiry:
 
Anger at inquiry judge’s absence
 
Child abuse review chief spent three months abroad in her first year
 
Sean O’Neill, Chief Reporter
August 4 2016, 12:01am, 
The Times
 
The judge who is leading Britain’s public inquiry into child abuse spent three months on holiday or abroad during her first year in the job, The Times has learnt.
 
Dame Lowell Goddard, whose pay and benefits package amounts to £500,000 a year, spent 44 working days in New Zealand, her home country, and Australia after becoming chairwoman of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse in April last year.
 
The period abroad was in addition to her annual leave entitlement of 30 working days, which is part of a generous contract agreed with Theresa May, who was home secretary at…
 
………hidden behind paywall
 
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/anger-at-inquiry-judge-s-absence-pxjjg0cmm

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Post by Doug D on 09.08.16 20:12

Mark Watts adds what looks like some inside knowledge to yesterdays BBC report on their FOI request about Op. Midland:
 
Met Police 'does not know' cost of Midland abuse inquiry
 
By Daniel De Simone, BBC News, 8 August 2016
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37012546
                       
 
Mark Watts ‏‪@MarkWatts_1 19h19 hours ago

Met's FOIA response to BBC reveals that 'Operation Midland' interviewed 11 complainants and...

            

            

Mark Watts ‏‪@MarkWatts_1 19h19 hours ago

. ‪@markwatts_1 'Operation Midland' has sparked three invs into pos historical impropriety by Met officers, according to FOIA reply to BBC.

            

            

Mark Watts ‏‪@MarkWatts_1 19h19 hours ago

. ‪@markwatts_1
   
             And, at least one of those three is potentially especially explosive for UK establishment. #CSAinquiry


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Post by Doug D on 09.08.16 20:43

Finger in the wind from the Met?
 
Looks like they have changed their mind to yesterdays ridiculous ‘don’t know’ FOI response:
 
Operation Midland cost £2.5m, says Met Police
 
By Daniel De Simone
BBC News
 
Snipped
 
‘A statement from Scotland Yard said: "The Metropolitan Police Service issued costs for Operation Midland periodically through the duration of the inquiry.
 
"Now that the investigation has concluded the total cost of the inquiry was approximately £2.5m based on staffing costs and overtime expenditure."
 
In response to a Freedom of Information request from the BBC, the Met Police had previously said it did not hold the relevant information.
 
It said that as staff did not record details of their duties, there would "be no record of the time" that officers spent on the operation.
 
Twenty-seven detectives and six civilian staff worked on the operation.
 
Retired judge Sir Richard Henriques is conducting a review of Operation Midland, on behalf of Met Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, which is expected to conclude in the autumn.’
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37027144

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Post by Tony Bennett on 09.08.16 21:07

@Doug D wrote:Finger in the wind from the Met?
 
Retired judge Sir Richard Henriques is conducting a review of Operation Midland, on behalf of Met Commissioner Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, which is expected to conclude in the autumn.’
 
Oh!! So the controversial Operation Midland investigation, which took two years and cost just £2.5 million, is to have a review.

Surely we all know of another highly controversial investigation, which has taken five years and three months and counting, and has cost well over £12 million.     

Is there to be a review of that one as well?

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Post by BlueBag on 11.08.16 19:11

 Alexis Jay.


This woman is almost certainly pro-establishment otherwise she wouldn't get the job.


So, the quest is to find out why she was appointed.

Or how are her wings clipped?

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Post by BlueBag on 11.08.16 20:17

She's OBE.

I think I've answered my own question.

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Post by BlueBag on 12.08.16 8:21

I wonder if a social worker knows more law than a judge?

Keith Vaz is happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/11/child-abuse-inquiry-prof-alexis-jay-to-take-over-from-lowell-goddard
Keith Vaz, the chairman of the Commons home affairs committee, also welcomed the appointment. “Prof Jay is clearly a suitable candidate with vast experience in these matters, is already a panel member, and has been commended for her inquiry in Rotherham,” he said.
“I am sure the home secretary will have noted that Prof Jay will be the first chair of the inquiry without legal or judicial qualifications. I hope it will be fourth time lucky, as we must not let the victims and survivors down.”

The reason Lowell Goddard resigned is...?

I guess a key question now is who will advise her on points of law? Or... tell her what she can and can't do.

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Post by willowthewisp on 12.08.16 13:08

@BlueBag wrote:I wonder if a social worker knows more law than a judge?

Keith Vaz is happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/11/child-abuse-inquiry-prof-alexis-jay-to-take-over-from-lowell-goddard
Keith Vaz, the chairman of the Commons home affairs committee, also welcomed the appointment. “Prof Jay is clearly a suitable candidate with vast experience in these matters, is already a panel member, and has been commended for her inquiry in Rotherham,” he said.
“I am sure the home secretary will have noted that Prof Jay will be the first chair of the inquiry without legal or judicial qualifications. I hope it will be fourth time lucky, as we must not let the victims and survivors down.”

The reason Lowell Goddard resigned is...?

I guess a key question now is who will advise her on points of law? Or... tell her what she can and can't do.
Appointment of Alexis Jay to the Child Abuse Inquiry,Good Luck!?
Professor Jay has over thirty years experience in the "Child Care system", the very same system that has failed the children throughout the UK,which makes Mrs Jay qualified for the latest twist on the machinations of Government Independence?
It is quite clear the Remit has been arranged to obfuscate the investigation process into a far and wide scoping exercise of the abuses perpetrated by people in Society,so why only one Judge?
Surely it would be better to treat the investigation as like a book with different chapters to draw an end conclusion?
Seriously,we have had past inquiries,Bryn Alyn,Estyn and cleared by successive further inquiry's into their findings,which apparently were unsubstantiated claims,ask Lord Hague who very quickly exited the Common's to sit in the House of Lords on his "Flawed Remits" on the original investigation by the Prime Minister John major?
It doe's seem as though we have very intelligent Civil Servants being able to draft the Remits,have intelligent personell investigate the claims with No findings of evidence,yet News Papers,Editors can tell an entirely different story of Senior Police, MI5/6 Officers confiscating filmed evidence from them of the abuses,we have stories from the press to back up these claims, yet we are told"Conspiracy Theories" no evidence of wrong doing?
We now have various internet sites having vast swathes of"dubious Characters"dating back some Seventy years with their cohorts thought to have facilitated the children to the abusers,with the Modus Operandi,"Blackmail"for future reference,aka to what has been alleged at "Kincora" Care Home for Boys,British Army?
We have swathes of "Media Moguls,DJ's"caught up in the abuse scandal going back decades the Police suddenly find evidence,yet cannot  or are unable to find any evidence to proceed with any convictions thought to have been committed by MP's and Lords from the Houses of ill repute?
Keith Vaz was one of the learned friends giving stinging renditions of Minors inventing untruths about ma learned cohorts, when (GJ) was returned to the House of Common's in the 1980's-1990's,yet the minor spoken to by Police could openly divulge certain parts of an house he had frequented when No other family members were present,which Marion Janner has never refuted the minor being their?
Yet Now(GJ)her Father is now dead, haranguing News Night Editors of(GJ) not being allowed to defend his Honour?
This is an exercise of an investigation,whereby the accused person's will more than likely to have turned their proverbial toes up,by the time any secretions of evidence to have been left by former IPCC inquiries?
How much "Paper Work" has suddenly been lost from"Safe storage by the Metropolitan Police Service"during the moving Headquarters,ma larky?
PS,they are moving the Yorkshire Ripper from a secure Mental facility with the Authority stating he is no longer suffering with a Mental condition,let us hope Mr Sutcliffe has a safe return to a State prison facility or will be about to hear of another prisoner death whilst in Custody, as he was friends with a cigar smoking reptile,sorry to any reptiles in the process?

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Post by Doug D on 17.08.16 14:27

Very little of Brian Gerrish, which is probably fortunate, but basically an hour long speal from whistleblower ‘Detective Constable John’ of the Met.

Not sure why he keeps his full name out of it, as if what he says is true, Sir BHH and the rest of the Met know exactly who he is.
 
Could have done with proper editing, as it is unnecessarily long.
 
In a courageous and explosive audio interview with UK Column “Despatches from the Front”, a Metropolitan Police Detective Constable child protection specialist, takes the lid off the scale of child abuse, trafficking and prostitution in London and UK.

He exposes the lies, threats and intimidation used by the police, Local Authorities, Social Services, Politicians, Charities and others to protect Establishment figures and Westminster.

This criminal conspiracy seeks to deceive the public and stop the truth emerging in every possible way.

Young children taken from care, stolen, picked up on the street, groomed for sex, drugged, sickened with serious disease, or dying in the gutter are shown to be the worthless play things of powerful people – the same people who run Britain, and the very authorities supposedly protecting families, society and the weak and vulnerable.

John’s courage deserves that everyone listening to his testimony circulates it and demands action.

A Britain run by those who protect child abusers and murders is shown to be the sickening reality, but a far more dangerous future lurks beneath the surface as this criminal British State, unchecked, grabs yet more power over families and children by the day.


 

 
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=137821

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