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Jonbenet Ramsey Murder: Grand Jury Indicted Parents

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Jonbenet Ramsey Murder: Grand Jury Indicted Parents

Post by Hobs on 27.01.13 20:26

Sunday, January 27, 2013








Jonbenet Ramsey Murder: Grand Jury Indicted Parents









Legal expert: Ramsey grand jury's vote on abuse charge possibly a 'compromise'


CU professor suggests grandy jury could have found way past reluctant DA
[email=brennanc@dailycamera.com?subject=Boulder%20Daily%20Camera:]By Charlie Brennan, Camera Staff Writer[/email]
Posted: 01/27/2013 12:00:00 AM MST
Updated: 01/27/2013 12:24:43 AM MST




Understanding the JonBenet Ramsey grand jury's vote to indict both of the girl's parents for child abuse resulting in death, and then-District Attorney Alex Hunter's subsequent refusal to sign the indictment or prosecute the case, is hampered at the outset by the cloak of secrecy which, by law, enveloped the process.
"To me it seems to mean that the grand jury compromised, for this reason," said Dan Recht, a Denver criminal defense lawyer and legal analyst. "JonBenet Ramsey was killed intentionally. That seems clear. The way that she was tied up, the way that she was manipulated physically, everyone would agree that she was intentionally killed.
"So to have a grand jury say that they acted recklessly, seems like a


Camera file photo


SECRETS OF THE JONBENET RAMSEY GRAND JURY

The Daily Camera has confirmed that the grand jury investigating the death of JonBenet Ramsey voted to indict John and Patsy Ramsey on charges of child abuse resulting in death but then-District Attorney Alex Hunter refused to sign the indictment and prosecute the case.



Grand jury voted to indict John and Patsy Ramsey, but DA refused to prosecute
Legal expert: Vote on abuse charge possibly a 'compromise'
JonBenet's death a tragic, bizarre case from start
JonBenet Ramsey case timeline, 1996-2012
Video interview: Bill Wise, ex-Boulder prosecutor
Video interview: Dan Recht, Denver legal analyst
compromise."


However, not everyone agrees that the death was initiated by a deliberate act. One police theory of the case held that the events of the night of Dec. 25, 1996, might have started with an accidental injury to JonBenet.
"Under that (scenario), if that was presented to the jury -- andI don't know how it would have been -- but if it was, then it's possible that the grand jury made a more informed decision," Recht said, "and this wasn't a complete compromise verdict inconsistent with the facts as Alex Hunter knew them to be."
If, in fact, the Ramsey grand jury's decision did represent a compromise decision made in the absence of jurors' confidence about what really took place inside 755 15th St. on Christmas night in 1996, that would not be unusual, Recht said.
"Juries compromise all the time, but normally it isn't quite so blatant as this seems to be," Recht said. "But in a homicide case, for example -- and now I'm talking about a regular, petit jury -- and the person is charged with first-degree murder, there's second-degree murder, there's manslaughter, and juries will regularly compromise between what the parties want, because they can't come up with a unanimous verdict of first-degree murder.
"And so they'll compromise on a lesser offense. That is the nature of jurors, often."
The language of the Colorado statute relating to child abuse states that the crime can be charged when a person "engages in a continued pattern of conduct that results in malnourishment, lack of proper medical care, cruel punishment, mistreatment or an accumulation of injuries that ultimately results in the death of a child or serious bodily injury to a child."
A failure to seek necessary emergency medical care after an accidental injury, such as a blow to a child's head rendering a child unconscious, would meet the statute's requirements, experts said.
Could jury have bypassed DA?
Meanwhile, there are questions surrounding Hunter's actions once the indictment was returned.
University of Colorado law professor Mimi Wesson said she believes that under Colorado grand jury law, Hunter might not have had the statutory power to invalidate the indictment by refusing to sign it.
"I doubt that a judge would order a prosecutor to sign an indictment, but that's a different question from the validity of an unsigned indictment," she wrote in an email.
"The question of the prosecutor's obligation usually comes up when a defendant is indicted and arrested and arraigned and generally put in the path of a prosecution, and then tries to get the charges dismissed on the ground of the prosecutor's failure to sign the indictment," she



University of Colorado law professor Mimi Wesson (Courtesy University of Colorado)
added. "This has not come up in Colorado that I can discover, but in some other jurisdictions, these defendants have not been successful."


Wesson also pointed out that Rule 6.6 of the Colorado Rules of Criminal Procedure states that, "Presentation of an indictment in open court by a grand jury may be accomplished by the foreman of the grand jury, the full grand jury or by the prosecutor under the instructions of the grand jury."
In the email, Wesson stated, "It seems to me that this rule suggests that the grand jurors had the power to bypass the DA's Office and report to the court that they had returned an indictment. Of course, if they did not know they had this power, they might believe that they were powerless to act without the DA, and that they were bound to maintain secrecy."
Sara Sun Beale, a professor at Duke University School of Law and author of the book "Grand Jury Law & Practice," said that while she did not disagree with Wesson's interpretation, she believed it remains "an open question" whether Hunter followed proper procedure under Colorado law.
'Let the community understand'
Now, with more than 13 years having passed since the grand jury left the Boulder County Justice Center for the last time, one grand juror who spoke to the Daily Camera asked what benefit might lie in the jury's decision finally being reported.
Addressing that question, Recht said, "I'm not sure if it's going to move the ball down the field, as far as figuring out who actually did this, as far as prosecuting anybody for doing this. So I don't know if it does anything in that regard.
"On the other hand," Recht said, "this is a case that was watched by the whole country. And this new information gives the country, the community, some insight into how the criminal justice system works. And that's helpful, and that's what, in essence, the First Amendment is about, which is to let the citizens, let the community understand how our government works, how the criminal justice system works."
Contact Camera Staff Writer Charlie Brennan at 303-473-1327 orbrennanc@dailycamera.com.





We on Peter Hyatt's Statement Analysis saw their guilt from the get go,

http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2013/01/jonbenet-ramsey-murder-grand-jury.html

This will be shocking news to some, but not to the readers of Statement Analysis who, in spite of not hearing what the Grand Jury did, still saw deception on the part of the parents of Jonbenet.

There were indicted in her death, but the cowardly actions of Alex Hunter kept them from going to trial.

The language found in the 911 call show guilty knowledge by the caller, Patsy.
Analysis of the words of both John and Patsy Ramsey show not only deception, but language consistent with child abuse.

What is known here, by the language alone, comes to the same conclusion that the Grand Jury did when they voted to indict.

What may have been an unintended death turned into a deceptive cover up by the parents, who, with high powered lawyers, frightened off the state's attorney and his assistants, and led them to disparage the police and sabotage the case built by the parents.

There are many in law enforcement who will feel justified by this breaking news.


Please feel free to pop along , have a browse and see what showed their deception in this case and in many other case of 'missing' children You can use search to find information on particular topics also as this is a newer version of his site you can also go to his old site

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/

Which has a wealth of informationon a wide variety of cases, tutorials and explanations.


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Re: Jonbenet Ramsey Murder: Grand Jury Indicted Parents

Post by Guest on 25.10.13 18:05

JonBenet Grand Jury Sought Child Abuse Charges


 4:55pm UK, Friday 25 October 2013
 
Newly released papers fail to shed light on why officials chose not to charge the girl's parents, or on who her killer might be.
 
By Sky News US Team
 
Court documents have revealed that a 1999 grand jury indicted the parents of murdered JonBenet Ramsay for child abuse resulting in death and accessory to a crime, including murder.
The indictment, released for the first time on Friday, did not point to who might have killed John and Patsy's six-year-old daughter.
The grand jury tasked with investigating the girl's death found that her parents "did unlawfully, knowingly, recklessly and feloniously permit a child to be unreasonably placed in a situation which posed a threat of injury ... which resulted in death".
 
 
The indictment, which the prosecutor refused to prosecute, said the crimes occurred between December 25 and December 26, 1996.
JonBenet's body was discovered bludgeoned and strangled in her family's home in Boulder, Colorado, on December 26.
The document also alleges both parents intended to delay or prevent the arrest of the alleged killer.
 
The couple denied any wrongdoing in their daughter's death.
Patsy Ramsey died of cancer in 2006, still fighting to clear her name.
In 2008, former district attorney Mary Lacy said DNA evidence suggested the girl's killer was a stranger, not a family member, and she announced that she planned to treat the Ramseys as victims of the crime.
The grand jury documents - sealed for 14 years - were released after the Daily Camera and the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press filed a lawsuit to seek the records.
The Daily Camera reported in January that members of the grand jury had voted to indict the Ramseys, but then-Boulder district attorney Alex Hunter opted not to pursue the indictment.
Officials have never explained that decision.
The case remains one of the most notorious unsolved murders in US history.
 
At the time, videos of the girl competing in child beauty pageants made headlines around the world, with Boulder police receiving thousands of tips over the case.
The case became the centre of media attention for a second time in 2006 when former primary school teacher John Mark Karr claimed he killed the former Little Miss Colorado "by accident".
No charges were filed against Karr after his DNA failed to match a sample found on JonBenet's clothes.
 
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1159779/jonbenet-grand-jury-sought-child-abuse-charges

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Post by tigger on 25.10.13 18:37

The grand jury documents - sealed for 14 years - were released after the Daily Camera and the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press filed a lawsuit to seek the records.
The Daily Camera reported in January that members of the grand jury had voted to indict the Ramseys, but then-Boulder district attorney Alex Hunter opted not to pursue the indictment.
Officials have never explained that decision.




Wow!  wow

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Post by Woofer on 25.10.13 18:54

"The document also alleges both parents intended to delay or prevent the arrest of the alleged killer."

Why - did they know who it was then?

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Post by Woofer on 25.10.13 18:56

Its crossed my mind about another case that maybe these doll-like infants could be lures.  An awful thought I know.

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Post by lj on 25.10.13 19:27

This whole pageant business should be closed for children period. It is sick, the parents are sick, and God knows how the children will end up. Look at child stars from movie and tv: the psychiatrists must love them.


Sorry for such an old fashioned opinion.

ETA: and please keep the kids also away from those talent shows!

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Post by Five Star on 25.10.13 19:33

Does anyone know where the hats she(JBR)  wore were bought from? or who made them?

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Post by plebgate on 25.10.13 19:35

@lj wrote:This whole pageant business should be closed for children period. It is sick, the parents are sick, and God knows how the children will end up. Look at child stars from movie and tv: the psychiatrists must love them.


Sorry for such an old fashioned opinion.

ETA: and please keep the kids also away from those talent shows!
It may be old fashioned but I agree , close them down once and for all I say.

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Post by Guest on 25.10.13 19:59

I certainly don't think it's old-fashioned to object to beauty pageants where the participants are young children plastered in make-up and dressed inappropriately. They will inevitably attract a certain sick element in society.

Some of the photos issued of Madeleine come into that unsettling category too.

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Post by tigger on 25.10.13 21:02

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I certainly don't think it's old-fashioned to object to beauty pageants where the participants are young children plastered in make-up and dressed inappropriately. They will inevitably attract a certain sick element in society.

Some of the photos issued of Madeleine come into that unsettling category too.
There was an article in the DT about that at the time. The writer noted  they should never have published that photo, especially after very recent complaints bout 'little miss naughty' clothing, bikinis etc. in the news.

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Post by Gillyspot on 25.10.13 23:00

@tigger wrote:
No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I certainly don't think it's old-fashioned to object to beauty pageants where the participants are young children plastered in make-up and dressed inappropriately. They will inevitably attract a certain sick element in society.

Some of the photos issued of Madeleine come into that unsettling category too.
There was an article in the DT about that at the time. The writer noted  they should never have published that photo, especially after very recent complaints bout 'little miss naughty' clothing, bikinis etc. in the news.
I agree with both of you. The "lolita" pictures of poor Maddie (she was called that remember) sicken me - not because of the images (all sorts of innocent images are taken of toddlers yr old (& you may see later another context) but if your child was "abducted" then there WOULD/SHOULD be many other images more suitable IMO.  Sadly it seems because her parents thought it acceptable to release them to the world at large.

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