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GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by BerylJ on 30.07.13 10:44

@Cherry wrote:Cherry Blossom - Cherry, thanks for posting info on Lord Falconer.

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Paedophiles are totally selfish and manipulative, always blaming their victims and feeling hard done by when they get caught out, not surprising Hall is playing the sympathy card, and of course he has his supporters who will be feeling sorry for him - Barbara Hewson (member of the legal profession who dismisses Hall's abuse as a bit of 'groping'), Anne Diamond, and Helen Flanagan just to mention a few.

He should thank his lucky stars I was not the judge on the case cos if I were a judge and sat on his case he would have been more likely to get a minimum of 30 years!    

A bit of groping? Is that all right then? Would Barabara Hewson let that happen to herself or a child of hers and just shrug it off?

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by aquila on 30.07.13 10:53

@Smokeandmirrors wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:More to come apparently re abuse by SH, fresh allegations made. Why the wives and families of these people stand by them, I will never understand.
 You find out that the person you love and respect, be it a spouse, parent, family member or friend has abused a child and then called that child a liar.....and you stand by them?

 Un-bloody-believable, isn't it? Hall is acting as though he has an entitlement to be a sex attacker and it's an affront to have been given a sentence. What a horrible vile man, and his family sound no better.

At the risk of being flayed I feel sorry for his family as well as the victims of his sexual abuse. It's not crystal clear that his family are standing by him. They're hardly likely to issue a press release to say they're not. It's simpler for now to say they are. Who knows what they actually feel and intend to do. As for signing over property to his wife he would have been advised to do that and who knows if his wife at that point believed he was innocent. He denied it to everyone. He lied through his teeth.

There are only victims in this. Victims created by Hall.

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by Guest on 30.07.13 12:15

Stuart Hall’s wife to leave uk

THE wife of BBC child sex pervert Stuart Hall plans to flee to Spain once her jailed husband is freed

 
Hazel Hall believes she has to emigrate to escape the stigma of being married to the It’s A Knockout paedophile.
She is standing by Hall and they should be reunited early in the New Year after he serves just half of his 15-month sentence for indecently assaulting 13 girls, the youngest aged just nine.
The Hall family have long talked about retiring to a villa in either Marbella or Puerto Banus.
Hazel, 72, has confided she fears it would be “painful and impossible” to continue living in Wilmslow, Cheshire, when the 83-year-old former TV presenter is released.
In February Hall signed the couple’s £1.2million detached home over to his wife.

Hazel Hall wrote:“It will be painful and impossible to continue living in Cheshire, when Stuart is released”
The move meant there was no chance of her losing it if any civil actions were taken out by his victims.
The couple have a lawyer son Daniel, 50, and daughter Francesca, 52, both of whom are said to be supportive of their father.
Hazel is already laying the found-ations for the pair to make a fresh start next year by selling up and relocating to Spain.
The couple, who have four grandchildren, have been married for 55 years.
Last week the Attorney General Dominic Grieve referred Hall’s sentence to the Court of Appeal for review after more than 150 people officially complained Hall’s punishment was too lenient

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/326261/Stuart-Hall-s-wife-to-leave-uk

Artical dated 14 July 2013

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by aquila on 30.07.13 12:24

Cherry Blossom wrote:Stuart Hall’s wife to leave uk

THE wife of BBC child sex pervert Stuart Hall plans to flee to Spain once her jailed husband is freed

 
Hazel Hall believes she has to emigrate to escape the stigma of being married to the It’s A Knockout paedophile.
She is standing by Hall and they should be reunited early in the New Year after he serves just half of his 15-month sentence for indecently assaulting 13 girls, the youngest aged just nine.
The Hall family have long talked about retiring to a villa in either Marbella or Puerto Banus.
Hazel, 72, has confided she fears it would be “painful and impossible” to continue living in Wilmslow, Cheshire, when the 83-year-old former TV presenter is released.
In February Hall signed the couple’s £1.2million detached home over to his wife.

Hazel Hall wrote:“It will be painful and impossible to continue living in Cheshire, when Stuart is released”
The move meant there was no chance of her losing it if any civil actions were taken out by his victims.
The couple have a lawyer son Daniel, 50, and daughter Francesca, 52, both of whom are said to be supportive of their father.
Hazel is already laying the found-ations for the pair to make a fresh start next year by selling up and relocating to Spain.
The couple, who have four grandchildren, have been married for 55 years.
Last week the Attorney General Dominic Grieve referred Hall’s sentence to the Court of Appeal for review after more than 150 people officially complained Hall’s punishment was too lenient

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/326261/Stuart-Hall-s-wife-to-leave-uk

Artical dated 14 July 2013

 I spoke too soon. It looks like I need to toughen up.

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by Guest on 30.07.13 12:57

Assuming that her age is correct (72), Hazel Hall has been married to him since she was 17 - I'm guessing that it's impossible for her to imagine a life without him.

For better, for worse.........etc!

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by aiyoyo on 30.07.13 13:32

On 15 July 2013, Lancashire police confirmed that five new allegations of rape and sexual assault had been made against Hall, including the alleged rape of a 12-year-old girl.

With fresh allegations (including one of rape) against him, and a criminal record as well as tagged as sexual predator, I doubt he will be allowed to leave the country.
If he is charged for the fresh allegations he will not survive fresh custodial sentence. Repeated offender is usually given heavier custodial sentence on subsequent conviction. He may have to face the fact that prison may be his last abode.

Despite his wife and children pledging support for him so publicly I am sure his wife, children, and grandchildren are shunned in school, workplace and society to a large degree. Who is to know how they live their life or go about their daily life under the blemished family name. Imagine his grandchildren having to put up with the shame of having a paedophile/sexual predator for a granddad and having to put up with the thwarting and finger pointing behind their back at school. They will have to migrate to another country to escape the stigma.

I suspect his wife and children are only standing by him because of his assets and wills.
Once that is gone or ringfenced as compensation for his victims then that will be a real test of his family support.




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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by aiyoyo on 30.07.13 13:58

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Assuming that her age is correct (72), Hazel Hall has been married to him since she was 17 - I'm guessing that it's impossible for her to imagine a life without him.

For better, for worse.........etc!

Maybe so, but using friends as mouthpiece shows her denial attitude and refusing to face fact that his victims are the damaged ones deserving to live their life in a mentally and psychologically healthy way as well.
Not only those he assaulted are victims but his grandchildren are also victims of a stained family name.
You would think that if Mrs Hall were half decent she would at least apologise to his victims if only for the sake of her grandchildren. Instead she chose to air how she's going to carry on a life with him post prison. Unbelievable right? Who needs to know their future plan?

At the very least she should just keep her gob shut. Silence is dignity.

Family support for him in private is one thing, but publicly supporting a hubby or father who is a convicted paedophile.............? His family would do well to remember Hall pleaded guilty.

I suspect he was advised to plead guilty to the lesser charges of assault (groping) instead of having to stand trial for the more serious crime of rape which was subsequently dropped. In a ironic twist of fate he may end up in dock after all facing rape charge if fresh allegation is something to go on.

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Simon Cowell to become a Father

Post by aiyoyo on 31.07.13 16:43



Dont know where to post this so here's as good as any I suppose.

Internet Breaking News

Simon Cowell is expecting a baby with NY socialite Lauren Silverman (wife of his best friend) who is 10 weeks into the pregnancy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/simon-cowell-expecting-child-report-article-1.1413477

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by PeterMac on 31.07.13 16:56

@aiyoyo wrote:Dont know where to post this so here's as good as any  I suppose.
Internet Breaking News
Simon Cowell is expecting a baby with NY socialite Lauren Silverman (wife of his best friend) who is 10 weeks into the pregnancy.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/simon-cowell-expecting-child-report-article-1.1413477

I think it more probable that She is expecting a baby, (which may be his)

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by Guest on 31.07.13 17:01

I'm totally underwhelmed whichever of them is or isn't pregnant!

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Post by listener on 31.07.13 23:26

"Marvelous - my best friend has saved me the bother" youaretheman

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Post by Who?What?Where? on 31.07.13 23:37

The Halls and Cowell, plus so many, many others.

It's all about the money.

I hope I never have to meet any of them. Horrible individuals.

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by russiandoll on 06.05.14 11:30

Pleads guilty at Preston  to one count of indecent assault on a girl under 16 and not guilty to 19 other charges.

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by ultimaThule on 06.05.14 15:53

From BBC News:

"Ex-BBC presenter Stuart Hall has admitted indecently assaulting a girl under 16 but denies 20 further charges.

Mr Hall, 84, is to go on trial accused of 15 rapes and five indecent assault offences against two young girls, allegedly between 1976 and 1981 in Greater Manchester and Cheshire.

The extra charge he admits was put to him ahead of the trial at Preston Crown Court.

The court heard the attack happened between January 1978 and January 1979.

Mr Hall, of Wilmslow, Cheshire, is charged with seven counts of rape against one alleged victim between 1976 and 1978, in Manchester.

Five of the rapes are said to have taken place when she was aged under 16.

He is also accused of two counts of indecent assault against the woman in the same period.

In addition, he is charged with eight counts of rape and three of indecent assault against a second alleged victim between 1976 and 1981, at various locations in Greater Manchester and Cheshire.

One of those alleged rapes is said to have taken place when the complainant was aged under 13."





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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by ultimaThule on 06.05.14 16:48

This is a link to the sentencing remarks made by the judge at Hall's trial last year at which he pleaded guilty to 14 charges of indecent assault on 13 female victims age between 9 and 17 years old: http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/stuart-hall-sentencing-remarks-17062013.pdf
It will be remembered that on appeal Hall's unduly lenient sentence was doubled to 30 months.

The charges he is now facing are far more serious being 5 counts of indecent assault and 15 counts of rape gainst two complainants, one of whom was under 13 and the other was under 16 at the time he is alleged to have raped them.


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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by russiandoll on 09.05.14 8:53

@ultimaThule wrote:This is a link to the sentencing remarks made by the judge at Hall's trial last year at which he pleaded guilty to 14 charges of indecent assault on 13 female victims age between 9 and 17 years old: http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/stuart-hall-sentencing-remarks-17062013.pdf
It will be remembered that on appeal Hall's unduly lenient sentence was doubled to 30 months.

The charges he is now facing are far more serious being 5 counts of indecent assault and 15 counts of rape gainst two complainants, one of whom was under 13 and the other was under 16 at the time he is alleged to have raped them.  


  Imo the increased sentence was lenient, seeing as one of his convictions was for an indecent assault on a 9 year old.

 This " man " should be imprisoned for the rest of his life.   A vile specimen of a human being....watch his spoutings re the original charges and his last -minute guilty plea to try and lessen his prison time.

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by ultimaThule on 16.05.14 16:58

@ultimaThule wrote:This is a link to the sentencing remarks made by the judge at Hall's trial last year at which he pleaded guilty to 14 charges of indecent assault on 13 female victims age between 9 and 17 years old: http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/stuart-hall-sentencing-remarks-17062013.pdf
It will be remembered that on appeal Hall's unduly lenient sentence was doubled to 30 months.

The charges he is now facing are far more serious being 5 counts of indecent assault and 15 counts of rape gainst two complainants, one of whom was under 13 and the other was under 16 at the time he is alleged to have raped them.  


Stuart Hall has been found not guilty of 4 of the 5 counts of indecent assault and not guilty of all of the 15 counts of rape he was charged with http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630422/BREAKING-NEWS-Veteran-BBC-broadcaster-Stuart-Hall-NOT-GUILTY-19-charges-sexual-assault-guilty-ONE-indecent-assault.html

He will be sentenced next Friday in respect of the one count of indecent assault he admitted prior to the commencement of the trial and the one count of indecent assault he's been found guilty of today.  

Hall's current release date is September of this year and it remains to be seen whether he will be spending any additional time behind bars.

NB I've bumped up an earlier post I made (above) as it links to the sentencing remarks relating to Hall's earlier trial.

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by aiyoyo on 16.05.14 17:36

Not guilty of the rapes  - despite the graphic details of the attacks ?

Oh......what is going on ?

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by ultimaThule on 16.05.14 18:13

In finding Hall guilty of one count of indecent assault it would seem to be the case that the 'graphic details' failed to convince the jury that Hall is guilty in respect of the other 19 sexual offences he is alleged to have committed against the two complainants, aiyoyo

Eta additional information here: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/live-stuart-hall-guilty-indecent-7129219 from which it would seem that, after some 7 hours of deliberation, the jury returned a majority verdict.

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Post by russiandoll on 23.05.14 11:27

Just got 2 and a half years, consecutive to his current sentence.  Good on you, Judge.

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Re: GUILTY... Stuart Hall, BBC personality and host of 'It's A Knockout', charged with rape/indecent assault on several girls, 27-46 years ago

Post by ultimaThule on 23.05.14 12:48

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27540137

Hall got 30 months consecutive? Instead of being elgible for parol in September, it'll be cOctober 2015 at the earliest before he gets out.

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