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Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

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Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by Olive_Boyle on 24.12.12 18:23

http://road.cc/content/news/72482-sunday-times-launches-%C2%A31-million-lawsuit-against-lance-armstrong


I thought this was an interesting story.

Not knowing the ins and outs I did wonder a while back whether a newspaper (whomever) could get their money back if the original payout turned out to be based on lie. Especially if it was settled out of court.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by PeterMac on 24.12.12 18:56

Who represented him ?

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by PeterMac on 24.12.12 19:00

And, Yes.
Although the case itself was settled out of court the documents, including signed affidavits, will have been presented to the court, and "lodged".
It is is certainly arguable therefore that the laws of perjury might apply.
Not to mention blackmail - making an unwarranted demand with menaces -
obtaining money by deception - falsely purporting that the items in the statement made were true
and several other things.
So who represented him ?
How much were they paid ?


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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by justathought on 24.12.12 19:13

@PeterMac wrote:Who represented him ?
Richard Spearman QC acted for Lance Armstrong throughout the litigation.
http://www.4-5.co.uk/news/index.cfm?id=1650

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by PeterMac on 24.12.12 23:01

Briefed by whom ?
Fascinating that the issue is presented and argued as a series of very tight procedural points, not of evidential ones.
The evidence itself is never heard.

Very similar to what is happening elsewhere in the system !

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by Olive_Boyle on 29.12.12 22:54

I know nothing of the original Lance Armstrong case but I read this and it umm, you know, reminded me of other cases that had been settled out of court.

Maybe one day the Daily Express will get a chance to do something similar.

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by roy rovers on 09.01.13 9:54

I see he's to give a no holds barred interview to Oprah. The fee should just about cover the monies owed to the Sunday Times.

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by Guest on 15.01.13 18:21

Oprah: Armstrong 'did not come clean in expected way'



Talk show host Oprah Winfrey has said Lance Armstrong "did not come clean in the way I expected" about claims he used performance-enhancing drugs.

She did not go into details of their lengthy interview but said she had been "satisfied" with his answers.



Video snippet of interview and story here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21024288#

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by roy rovers on 16.01.13 18:30

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by roy rovers on 16.01.13 18:32

According to the Guardian today Lance Armstrong 'mesmerised' Oprah. Jimmy Savile 'mesmerised' just about everybody. For how long can the McCs 'mesmerise' everybody? That's what fascinates me about this case.

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by PeterMac on 16.01.13 22:09

The people who do these interviews are themselves part of the problem.
They are held up to be analytical, sharp, quick witted, incisive and the rest.
In reality they are nothing more than the acceptable, smiling, soft, front end of an entertainment business.
Look back at their CVs.
Even Paxman was not allowed to get a grip on Gerry.
The rules of engagement are very clear. C-R will make absolutely sure of that.
When I watch that clip I see Paxman squirming in frustration at what he has clearly been told he CANNOT say, or ask, and then just giving up .
Note the dismay when Vanity Fair actually published their piece - across the pond and so out of reach of C-R, pre-publication.
Read Mitchell's attempt at spin, and his actual letting the cat out of the bag, in a straight admission that he had not managed to control it.
Quod, as they used to say erat demonstratio.

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by Guest on 16.01.13 22:25

QED indeed.
But I'll never forget GM's diabolic grin in the Paxman interview ...

ETA in the Irish interview too, one sees a brilliant interviewer, stretching the borders of what he can ask and then caving in again. But the times they'll be a changing ... IMO, of course

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by PeterMac on 17.01.13 8:16

And this is why there will never be a libel trial in the true sense.
Their lawyers will dance round the edges or procedural matters, and suggest out of court settlements on pain of massive costs, and everything else,
but will never let anyone cross examine properly.

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by aiyoyo on 17.01.13 14:26

@Olive_Boyle wrote:I know nothing of the original Lance Armstrong case but I read this and it umm, you know, reminded me of other cases that had been settled out of court.

Maybe one day the Daily Express will get a chance to do something similar.

God forbids when that happens?
Sunday Times paid out 300K but wants back more than 300 percent of that claiming accrual in 6-year of interest which is a damn sight higher than what any bank would charge.

Can you imagine what accrued interest will be for 500K (or is it more) if this deception goes on indefinitely into the future years before coming to this eventuality?

Hee Hee....Even if the pair were to sell their backsides they wont afford it, unless their wealthy supporter bail them out of course! big grin big grin

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by Guest on 26.01.13 23:37

Anti-Doping Chief: Armstrong Lied On Oprah


The head of the US anti-doping body says the shamed cyclist lied in his TV confession about being clean when he made his comeback.




http://news.sky.com/story/1043148/anti-doping-chief-armstrong-lied-on-oprah

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by Inspectorfrost on 26.01.13 23:43

pathological liar then....

biggergrin

Its in the lying eyes

now where have i seen them before

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by roy rovers on 20.10.13 23:36

From interview by Paul Kimmage in the Observer Sunday 20 October
Lance Armstrong tells Alex Gibney: 'The lie is no longer believable'
In 2009, the filmmaker set out to make The Road Back, about the cyclist's comeback, but found himself telling the story of sport's biggest cover-up, in The Armstrong Lie

 'I think the really interesting thing with the story, and in a way what the film is about, is the anatomy of a lie. How does a lie hide in plain sight? There was so much evidence staring everybody in the face and yet so many people wanted to believe the beautiful lie, rather than the ugly truth.'

Full interview
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/oct/20/lance-armstrong-drugs-in-sport

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Post by roy rovers on 18.11.13 15:13

Lance Armstrong comes face to face with whistleblower Emma O'Reilly
• Disgraced former champion tries to heal rift with team soigneur
• Admits attacks on her were 'inexcusable and embarrassing'
theguardian.com, Monday 18 November 2013 01.03 GMT                

Lance Armstrong accused Emma O'Reilly of being an alcoholic and made other disparaging comments which he now admits were lies. Photograph: Maryse Alberti/AP
Lance Armstrong has come face to face with the whistleblower who first spoke out against the disgraced cyclist's long-standing drug taking and told her that his attempts to ruin her reputation were "inexcusable and embarrassing".
Armstrong, who admitted in January that he took performance-enhancing drugs during all seven of his Tour de France wins – of which he has been stripped – was brought together in Florida with Emma O'Reilly by the Daily Mail. O'Reilly was a soigneur on the US Postal Team which Armstrong represented when winning his first six Tour titles and it was she who in 2004 spoke out against the American and the systematic doping that he was a fundamental part of.
Armstrong reacted by taking legal action against O'Reilly, who is from Dublin but now runs a physiotherapy clinic in Hale, Cheshire, accused her of being an alcoholic and made other disparaging comments about her which he now admits were lies.

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by Who?What?Where? on 19.11.13 1:03

I cannot possibly comprehend, what sort of pleasure an individual would get, out of cheating someone else in that way.

 I have, though, seen it myself, on many occasions. People who aspired to be regarded as world class.

I just do not understand it!

As the cheater, you would know that you have cheated, even though other's may not realise what you were doing..Where is the pleasure in that?

You have exploited other people's ignorance, because they believed in fair play and a level playing field. How is that world class?

I definitely do not understand that. That seem's obscene to me.

Just be the best that you can be. Where is the harm in that?

Do not let people tell you, that they are in any way superior to you. They could be nothing more than a cheat.

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by PeterMac on 19.11.13 7:31

Money.
Does this happen in amateur sport ?

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Re: Sunday Times launches £1 million lawsuit against Lance Armstrong

Post by Who?What?Where? on 20.11.13 1:41

@PeterMac wrote:Money.
Does this happen in amateur sport ?
Probably/possibly.

This is a monetary system after all, and most people have been taught to believe that money, equals, power and , thereby, control.

Therefore, they start to believe that more money, will give them even more power and even more control.

Flawed thinking, IMHO.

Money does serve a purpose, but that purpose is not what most people have been taught to believe in. Money is an inert substance. It cannot do you any harm. The people who want to control the money, are where the real problem lies.

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