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Update: Max Clifford convicted and sentenced to 8 years: 2nd May 2014

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Post by Guest on 07.12.12 19:40

Thanks for posting! I'd forgotten about the Dame Edna Show. And I was in stitches once again ... big grin

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Post by PeterMac on 26.04.13 18:30

Breaking on Sky news NOW.
Clifford charged with 11 offences (eleven) of indecent assault
relating to 7 victims (seven)

Wait for the spin.

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Post by sharonl on 26.04.13 18:51

The celebrity publicist is accused of indecently assaulting seven separate women between 1966 and 1985, the CPS says.


6:47pm UK, Friday 26 April 2013




Publicist Max Clifford has been charged with 11 indecent assaults allegedly, including one against a girl of 14, the CPS has said.

Clifford stands accused of indecent assaults on seven separate women, aged between 14 and 19.
The first was assaulted in 1966, on a girl of 14.

Three females aged between 15 and 18 suffered five offences between 1974 and 1978.
Clifford is accused of assaulting another three females aged between 16 and 19, between 1981 and 1985..
Alison Saunders, Chief Crown Prosecutor for CPS London, has made a statement relating to the decision.
She said: "We have carefully considered the evidence gathered as part of Operation Yewtree in relation to Max Clifford, who was initially arrested on 6 December 2012 over allegations of sexual offences.

"Having completed our review, we have concluded that there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest for Mr Clifford to be charged with 11 offences of indecent assault relating to seven complainants."
"Mr Clifford will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on 28 May 2013.

"We have also decided that there is insufficient evidence to authorise charges in relation to three separate allegations. These decisions were taken in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors and our guidance for prosecutors on sexual offences.
"May I remind all concerned that Mr Clifford has a right to a fair trial. It is very important that nothing is said, or reported, which could prejudice that trial. For these reasons it would be inappropriate for me to comment further."

His initial arrest was carried out as part of Operation Yewtree, which was set up to investigate allegations of sex abuse carried out by Jimmy Savile.

There is no suggestion that his alleged offences are connected with Savile's.
He was originally arrested on December 6, 2012.

Indecent assault is an offence contrary to Section 14 of the Sexual Offences Act 1956. It is punishable by up to 10 years' imprisonment upon conviction in the Crown Court.

Clifford tonight said the allegations were "completely false" and vowed to "clear my name in a court of law".

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Post by Dr What on 26.04.13 19:49

I find that after I heard about this, I can't stop putting the words "odious", "worthless" and "parasite" in the same sentence as Max Clifford.

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Post by PeterMac on 26.04.13 22:09

He is now, clearly and publicly, accusing the seven women of
1 Perjury
2 Defamation
3 Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of justice
4 Attempting to procure an act of False Imprisonment
5 and all sorts of other things that naturally follow.

(If he is right, of course they are guilty of all of that, and should and MUST be punished)

Will Carter-Ruck now step up and attempt to silence the victims (alleged victims) behind the scenes and pro bono ?

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Post by ShuBob on 26.04.13 23:06

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Post by PeterMac on 27.04.13 8:00

Everyone MUST see this
Max Clifford admits to covering up Child Abuse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYbPnk_hzA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Published on Nov 7, 2012
A covertly recorded video in which Max Clifford states that he creates false images, deceives people and and lies. He then goes on to admit that he had played a part in covering up the sexual abuse by Tory Minister, Alan Clark of two girls from the age of 14 who were the daughters of his mistress, stating, 'The only slightly serious side about it was he'd actually interfered with those girls from the age of fourteen.'

Max Clifford is now the PR Ambassador for the charity Children In Need.

DC is allegedly Dominic Carmen who it is believed uploaded this video and then removed it (or made it private) for reasons unknown once the Jimmy Savile scandal began to widen into other areas of child abuse. It is for reasons of public interest that this video has been re-uploaded. Max Clifford hs serious questions to answer.

Full Transcript:

MC: No problems at all as long as they're not interfering with little
kids. Absolutely no problems. Because I know that the truth will
destroy them, and they don't deserve that. So I create a false image. I'm
deceiving people, I'm lying, for sure. But for me, it's the same kind
of lie when you got to a dinner party, and your host says: 'Did you
enjoy the meal?", and you think: well it was awful. You say: "It was
lovely, thank you." It's that kind of situation.'

DC: Where do you get your inspiration from? Some of it's marvellous.

MC: From the public.

DC: Chelsea football shirt and David Mellor. The Harkness coven with Alan Clark?

MC: Again, they come to me. I don't go to them. They come to me, and we go from there.

DC: to persuade a judge: "I should, or would, have him horsewhipped" -- I thought
that, I always thought that was his...

MC: I think that...things I get credited with. It's like Alan Clark. Wonderful piece in that was when she, Mrs Clark, started talking about "below stairs". Nothing to do with me, but wonderful.

DC: Straight out of Upstairs Downstairs.

MC: Wonderful for me. You couldn't have written the script, to make it
even better and inflame it. And he enjoyed the whole thing. Alan Clark
loved the whole thing. The only thing about it, you had...they made a
lot of money out of it. He'd used them, so they wanted to make money out
of it, they had a moan, so they did. He enjoyed it: he sold even more
books. The only slightly serious side about it was he'd actually
interfered with those girls from the age of fourteen.

DC: That wasn't publicised was it?

MC: No, It didn't come out. Because by the time the pair of them came over here,
most of the time they were totally pissed, and mother and daughter were fighting each other to get on this television show. Turned into a farce and a pantomime.

DC: Must admit I never saw that. Must have been quite a combination.
Extraordinary story.

MC: It was. The whole thing was. And most of the things are. What's
really going on. It's the funniest thing, which is why it will be
intriguing if Laurence and Gran, Birds of a Feather and all that? They're doing
a tv series, based on me.
DC: Oh, are they?

MC: Of course I can bring out the stories and the adventures, and just
change it around, it's all fiction...

DC: Who will play you?

MC: Possibly Adam Faith.

DC: He's a good friend of yours, isn't he?

MC: Yes, been mates since 1958. In fact, he was here earlier. That's
all in the melting pot, it's up to them. But that could be funny. That
then could give me the perfect scenario to bring out the truth. People
wouldn't know it to be the truth. You move it around, it's not a
politician, it's a pop star. What happened is exactly..people would
think: " I can't believe that. No way."
I've said: I'll never write the book, I'll write the funny stories one day. Because I don't want to harm, it's never been my nature.

DC: And there's the defamation risk?

MC: No, that's easy for me because I've got all the evidence. I'm the
one who's hidden it from the world. I know where everything is and
the proof is.

DC: It's not stored in the cupboard?

MC: No, it's a long, long way from here, I can promise you. You can
see my point. That's why I have such a good relationship with the
people I work with. Because ten, twenty, thirty years go by and no-one
in the world knows. I could have retired on one of these things,
whether it was...whoever, any of the people.

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Post by Guest on 27.04.13 9:09

Just to make it clear that this clip of Max Clifford is at least 10 years old as he mentions Adam Faith (who died in 2003) as still being alive.

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Post by PeterMac on 27.04.13 10:03

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Just to make it clear that this clip of Max Clifford is at least 10 years old as he mentions Adam Faith (who died in 2003) as still being alive.
I doubt he will be so frank with his admissions this time.

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Post by russiandoll on 27.04.13 10:14

ABOUT PR:

Edward Bernays, a nephew of Sigmund Freud, is also sometimes referred to as
the father of public relations for his work in the 1920s. He took the
approach that audiences had to be carefully understood and persuaded to
see things from the client's perspective. Bernays was the profession's first theorist. He was influenced by Freud's theories about the subconscious. Bernays authored several books, including Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923), Propaganda (1928), and The Engineering of Consent
(1947). He saw public relations as an "applied social science" that
uses insights from psychology, sociology, and other disciplines to
scientifically manage and manipulate the thinking and behavior of an
irrational and "herdlike" public.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and
opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society,"
he wrote in Propaganda, "Those who manipulate this unseen
mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the
true ruling power of our country".


Audience targeting


A fundamental technique used in public relations is to identify the target audience,
and to tailor messages to appeal to each audience. Sometimes the
interests of differing audiences and stakeholders common to a public
relations effort necessitate the creation of several distinct but
complementary messages. On the other hand stakeholders
theory identifies people who have a stake in a given institution or
issue. All audiences are stakeholders (or presumptive stakeholders), but
not all stakeholders are audiences. For example, if a charity
commissions a public relations agency to create an advertising campaign
to raise money to find a cure for a disease, the charity and the people with the disease are stakeholders, but the audience is anyone who is likely to donate money.


Messaging


Messaging is the process of creating a consistent story around a
product, person, company or service. Messaging aims to avoid having
readers receive contradictory or confusing information that will instill
doubt in their purchasing choice or other decisions that have an impact
on the company. Brands aim to have the same problem statement, industry
viewpoint or brand perception shared across sources and mediums.


Spin


Main article: Spin (public relations)
Spin has been interpreted historically to mean overt deceit meant to
manipulate the public, but since the 1990s has shifted to describing a
"polishing of the truth." Today spin refers to providing a certain interpretation of informant meant to sway public opinion.
Companies may use spin to create the appearance of the company or other
events are going in a slightly different direction than they actually
are.[ Within the field of public relations, spin is seen as a derogatory
term, interpreted by professionals as meaning blatant deceit and
manipulation. Skilled practitioners of spin are sometimes called "spin doctors."

The techniques of spin include selectively presenting facts and quotes that support ideal positions (cherry picking), the so-called "non-denial denial," phrasing that in a way presumes unproven truths, euphemisms
for drawing attention away from items considered distasteful, and
ambiguity in public statements. Another spin technique involves careful
choice of timing in the release of certain news so it can take advantage
of prominent events in the news.


Negative PR


Negative public relations, also called dark public relations (DPR)
and in some earlier writing "Black PR", is a process of destroying the
target's reputation and/or corporate identity.
The objective in DPR is to discredit someone else, who may pose a
threat to the client's business or be a political rival. DPR may rely on
IT security, industrial espionage, social engineering and competitive intelligence. Common techniques include using dirty secrets from the target, producing misleading facts to fool a competitor.
What a dirty business to get into, image not reality.

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.04.13 11:00

@PeterMac wrote:Breaking on Sky news NOW.
Clifford charged with 11 offences (eleven) of indecent assault
relating to 7 victims (seven)

Wait for the spin.

Holy shit!


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Post by Nina on 27.04.13 11:10

He said that he had a lot of dirt on people. I wonder if he will tell all ? I do hope so.

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.04.13 11:20

Max Clifford is now the PR Ambassador for the charity Children In Need.

That reminds us of another ambassador under false pretense.

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Post by ShuBob on 27.04.13 12:45

@Nina wrote:He said that he had a lot of dirt on people. I wonder if he will tell all ? I do hope so.

I pray so!

Nothing would please me more than these unsavoury characters cancelling themselves out.

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Post by ShuBob on 27.04.13 12:54

@aiyoyo wrote:
Max Clifford is now the PR Ambassador for the charity Children In Need.

That reminds us of another ambassador under false pretense.

Whom I have no doubt will also be exposed one day.

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Post by Guest on 27.04.13 13:02

Suprised he didn't bring out the tea & biscuits, doing his own spin just doesn't seem to work, Lots of support from his clients, I'll bet he has, there probably shaking in their boots.





Publicist Max Clifford has vowed again to clear his name - after being charged with 11 alleged indecent assaults, including one against a girl of 14.

Clifford stands accused of sexually assaulting seven women, all teenagers, between 1966 and 1985.

The publicist has denied the allegations, dismissing them as "nonsense" and "completely false" and insisting he has never indecently assaulted anyone in his life.

Clifford said on Saturday it had been "horrible" for his wife and daughter, but added he was grateful for the support he says he has been receiving from his clients and the public.

"I find it hard to accept that women, 30 to 40-odd years later, can make complaints like this and they remain anonymous," Clifford told Sky News outside his home.

"And, of course, you have got to prove that you’re innocent."

Clifford says he has been living a 'nightmare' over the allegations

He noted his lawyers will now have access to all information about the claimants and said: "If nothing but the truth comes out, I will be absolutely fine."

Clifford's initial arrest in December 2012 was carried out as part of Operation Yewtree, which was set up to investigate allegations of sex abuse carried out by the late BBC host Jimmy Savile.

There is no suggestion that his alleged offences are connected with Savile's.

Clifford is accused of allegedly abusing the first girl, who was 14, in 1966.

A further three females, aged between 15 and 18, allegedly suffered five offences between 1974 and 1978.

Clifford is also accused of assaulting another three females, aged between 16 and 19, between 1981 and 1985.

He is due to appear in court on May 28.

Until then, the 70-year-old says he will try to live as normal a life as possible, keeping up his work and going to the children's hospices he is a patron of.

"I've had tremendous support from everywhere, not just people who know me and did know me, but my clients and also people I meet everywhere I go," Clifford said.

"All of my clients have remained loyal and I’m working with all of my clients on a regular daily basis," he said.

"That support is as strong as it has ever been, which I'm very grateful for."

Prosecutors said on Friday that they had concluded there was sufficient evidence for Clifford to be charged with 11 offences of indecent assault relating to seven complainants.

There were three more allegations but prosecutors said there was insufficient evidence to authorise charges.



http://news.sky.com/story/1083733/max-clifford-publicist-vows-to-clear-name

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Post by ShuBob on 27.04.13 13:16

Like certain others whose names escape me just now, Clifford appears to be exaggerating the support from members of the public he's getting. A quick look at Twitter and certain other forums will tell you otherwise.

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Post by tasprin on 27.04.13 13:20

Surrey Life


Max Clifford joins the Children in Need team

Tuesday, August 16, 2011



Ive just been asked to become the PR ambassador for BBC Children in Need, which places me on their developing advisory committee, and naturally I was more than happy to accept the invitation.
Theyve asked me to help create and put on all kinds of fund-raising events, all year round, in addition to the major event that takes place just before Christmas.
In preparation for my new role, Ive been finding out all about the background to Children in Need, and it certainly makes for some fascinating reading....
.....BBC Children in Need changes the lives of some of the most disadvantaged children and young people right here in the UK.
The organisation currently makes grants to over 2,000 voluntary projects, community groups and registered charities who offer practical, lasting support to children and young people experiencing poverty, deprivation or homelessness; suffering from illness, abuse, distress, or neglect; or living with learning difficulties, sensory or physical disabilities, or behavioural or psychological disorders
http://www.surreylife.co.uk/people/charity/max_clifford_joins_the_children_in_need_team_1_1646391

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Post by Guest on 27.04.13 14:05

@ShuBob wrote:Like certain others whose names escape me just now, Clifford appears to be exaggerating the support from members of the public he's getting. A quick look at Twitter and certain other forums will tell you otherwise.

Agree ShuBob, I think he will have a shock if he reads any of those. What gets me is why should he have to mention children's hospices and other charity's he does work for, loosing his wife and his own cancer? Oh feel sorry for me attitude. To me he came across as wanting people to believe he is a goody two shoes, bet he was up all night thinking of that one, people will see right through that spin.

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Post by ShuBob on 27.04.13 14:27

Cherry Blossom wrote:
@ShuBob wrote:Like certain others whose names escape me just now, Clifford appears to be exaggerating the support from members of the public he's getting. A quick look at Twitter and certain other forums will tell you otherwise.

Agree ShuBob, I think he will have a shock if he reads any of those. What gets me is why should he have to mention children's hospices and other charity's he does work for, loosing his wife and his own cancer? Oh feel sorry for me attitude. To me he came across as wanting people to believe he is a goody two shoes, bet he was up all night thinking of that one, people will see right through that spin.

Perhaps, he has forgotten the amount of work Savile did for children's charities....

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.04.13 14:39

Cherry Blossom wrote:
@ShuBob wrote:Like certain others whose names escape me just now, Clifford appears to be exaggerating the support from members of the public he's getting. A quick look at Twitter and certain other forums will tell you otherwise.

Agree ShuBob, I think he will have a shock if he reads any of those. What gets me is why should he have to mention children's hospices and other charity's he does work for, loosing his wife and his own cancer? Oh feel sorry for me attitude. To me he came across as wanting people to believe he is a goody two shoes, bet he was up all night thinking of that one, people will see right through that spin.

After he publicised his work for these children organisations they will have no choice but to disengage him and dis-associate themselves from him - they had to in light of the charges he face ie offences against teens. So it is his own goal.

I bet all his clients would now cringe just to think they'd been handled by such a creep.

Isnt he still PR for Dewi who's awaiting extradition verdict ? I bet Dewi will sack him soon, if he hasn't already, because MC is bad image as representative.

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Post by ShuBob on 27.04.13 14:48

Clifford dropped Dewani like a hot potato a long time ago claiming he hadn't been paid for the work he'd done for the family.

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Post by Guest on 27.04.13 14:56

@ShuBob wrote:Clifford dropped Dewani like a hot potato a long time ago claiming he hadn't been paid for the work he'd done for the family.

I didn't know that ShuBob, interesting. Any link to that?

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.04.13 15:01

@ShuBob wrote:Clifford dropped Dewani like a hot potato a long time ago claiming he hadn't been paid for the work he'd done for the family.

Murat had a narrow escape then!

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