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OMG Mirror Front Page tomorrow!!! Raymond Hewlett again

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Re: OMG Mirror Front Page tomorrow!!! Raymond Hewlett again

Post by monkey mind on 25.11.12 13:02

Hobs,

Thank you very much for providing that excellent analysis, very insightful, very professional it would appear.

I’ve read it twice and would like to make an observation. Following your logic and train of thought and taking the two following points which follow on from one another in the interview....

“It certainly feels like there's a big void in our life without her.”and

Gerry McCann told Schindler, "I'm sure most people can imagine how bad it was that first night ... how terrifying it was and, as most parents would say, the parents' worst nightmare.”

Following your logical presentation, this would certainly seem to point away from an accident would it not? I can’t relate an ‘accident’ to this situation at all, and forensic analysis as carried out by yourself of those two sentences would tend to point away from one also would it not?

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Post by Hobs on 25.11.12 15:45

@monkey mind wrote:Hobs,

Thank you very much for providing that excellent analysis, very insightful, very professional it would appear.

I’ve read it twice and would like to make an observation. Following your logic and train of thought and taking the two following points which follow on from one another in the interview....

“It certainly feels like there's a big void in our life without her.”and

Gerry McCann told Schindler, "I'm sure most people can imagine how bad it was that first night ... how terrifying it was and, as most parents would say, the parents' worst nightmare.”

Following your logical presentation, this would certainly seem to point away from an accident would it not? I can’t relate an ‘accident’ to this situation at all, and forensic analysis as carried out by yourself of those two sentences would tend to point away from one also would it not?

Hi Monkey mind.

Exactly.

If it was a total accident, parental instinct would have been to treat her if she were still alive and call 911.

Parental instinct is so strong that even if the child was clearly dead, they refuse to accept it , call 911 and demand the medics do everything in their power to ave their child ( it is the same with a close loved one, instinct is to deny deny deny)

The fact that multiple doctors did the unexpected is a massive red flag imo.

Regardless of the consequences, they would and should have dialled 911, their priority being saving Madeleine imo.

The fact they didn't indicates a reason they could not imo.

What could be so bad that they overode parental and medical instinct?

Simple sedation would not be career ending, if they tested Madeleine, Sean and Ameliethey may have been given a formal warning, perhaps needing retraining or supervision and carried on as before, it happens all the time.

Remember oldfield was allegedly facing a malpractice suit.

Sedation resulting in harm to Madeleine?

That could be explained away as she got into the medicine bag without them noticing, they went out and bang Madeleine died.

Kids getting into pills happens all the time, we see it almost daily in the news and ER see it daily. It happens move along nothing to see and life carries on, maybe they felt a bit of guilt otherwise life goes on.

Sedation resulting in harm to Madeleine and the twins getting tested.

This is harder to explain away, it is remotely feasible Madeleine got into the pills and shared them, the twins survived, she didn't. This could result in sanctions from the GNC, maybe not career ending but it would affect any future promotions, grants etc.

Te obvious conclusions imo is something happened that couldn't be explained away, that they couldn't allow an autopsy to take place.

They could have claimed someone broke in attacked Madeleine and left her for them to find.

This would result in child neglect charges and possibly neglect resulting in harm with a max 10 stretch.

This would be a career ender.

This would be harder to explain away if traces of sedatives were found in her body indicating sedation prior to them leavng or repeated sedation, a lot of awkward quetions and possibly jail time and loss of licence.

Kate i think tells us why they couldn't allow an autopsy with her graphic description of Madeleines genitals.

This is highly unexpected, no parent wants to think of it happening, let alone broadcasting it to the world.

The description of her lying cold and mottled on a cold slab is very visual and an accurate description of a body that's been dead for a few days ( blood settles to the lower areas due to gravity, it is a good indicator of how the body lay and very helpful in teling if the body has been moved)

Is this the last time she saw Madeleine and it is indelibly writ large across her mind?

The fact that there is no body. the Drs Gaspar reported seeing a discussion between gerry and david payne involving inappropriate behavior and Madeleine is a red flag.

The fact allegations have been made about payne liking to bathe other peoples children.

The fact a social worker recognised payne in relation to her work but couldn't remember whst his involvement was.

The fact there has been deafening silece about the allegations of paedophilia, allegations which are possibly the worst thing you can call a man.

An inncoent man would be shouting loudly from the rooftops denying such allegations and suing imo.

What we have seen is no mention of these allegations, rather them suing the mdia and the public over allegations madeleine is dead and they are involved.

The case number for a child abuse file that seems to have been cleared of any files.

I suspect that Madeleine's death, and yes she is dead imo, the cadaver dogs didn't lie, couldn't be explained away as an accident.

Whatever happened, they had to hide the body to prevent discovery imo,( if she had been raped and abducted why could they have not blamed the 'abductor')

I believe, Whatever happend all or most of the tapas 7 know and have an urgent need to cover up imo.

I wonder, if social servics were called to examine all the children of the group, if they would find anything of interest?

Sadly we cannot find out if any of them have a record unless they have unsupervised contact with your child or children, and even if you knew you couldn't divulge this information due to human rights laws and other carp.

What is clear is they do not miss Madeleine imo.

They have the perfect family, a boy and a girl, a goodish income, fame (or notoriety depending on your point of view)

I wonder if Madeleine has the same parentage as the twins, who were the real donors ( there are several possible options which i went into in detail on another forum doing a crash course on genetics 101)

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Post by monkey mind on 25.11.12 19:21

Hobs,

Very astute. But the analysis of the phone records and creche records by the ex intelligence officer whilst not contradictory to your own analysis point to something one step beyond your last post. I know many find his conclusions a little hard to swallow, but in a case where nothing is quite as it should be, I find them most compelling......

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Scotland Yard to interview Nottingham's couple

Post by aiyoyo on 26.11.12 11:12



Nottingham couple Alan and Cindy Thompson 'to be quizzed' by Madeleine McCann case detectives

Monday, November 26, 2012

Nottingham Post

DETECTIVES investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are
set to interview a Nottingham couple who may have more information
about the case, according to reports.

Alan and Cindy Thompson are due to be asked about ex-soldier
Raymond Hewlitt, who is thought to have been staying 30 miles away from
Praia da Luz, Portugal, when Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.





  1. Madeleine McCann


According to a national newspaper, Scotland Yard
detectives want to speak to the couple, who Mr Hewlitt befriended
during a holiday and who allegedly claimed that gypsies had approached
him, asking to buy his children.

Mr Hewlitt, who died of throat cancer in 2010, told the couple
that he refused to sell one of his six children to "gypsy tourists".

The Nottingham couple only discovered Hewlitt's criminal
background – he was imprisoned three times for attacks on young girls –
when they returned from holiday.

Officers from Scotland Yard are said to be investigating the
movements of Mr Hewlitt in Portugal in May 2007, when Madeleine was on
holiday with her parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, of Rothley,
Leicestershire.

Scotland Yard declined to comment.

A pink aspect to this definitely.

What is curious is: if this is just a load of carps from team Mccanns, aren't they worried about SY's reaction to their spin?
So WHAT is going ON?

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Re: OMG Mirror Front Page tomorrow!!! Raymond Hewlett again

Post by Guest on 26.11.12 13:07

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DETECTIVES investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are
set to interview a Nottingham couple
who may have more information
about the case, according to reports.

Alan and Cindy Thompson are due to be asked about ex-soldier
Raymond Hewlitt, who is thought to have been staying 30 miles away from
Praia da Luz, Portugal, when Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.



They were in the news back in May 2009. Surely when spoken to they would have given ALL information. Edgar and Cowley would have had these names, surely they would have spoken to them and got all the info, and it would be in their files, the Thompsons were in all the papers around that time. How could they have more information now........????

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Post by PeterMac on 26.11.12 16:14

The Thompsons previously reported that they had tracked Osama bin Laden down to a cave in Pakistan, and got themselves on the front covers of several newspapers for doing so. I do not know how much they were paid for that story.
Clearly a highly credible couple, which is no doubt why no one has bothered talking to them for the last 4 years.
The question remains, who has put this onto the front pages now, and why ?
What are they wanting to conceal ?
Where do they not want us to look ?

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Nottingham couple to be quized by Maddie detectives

Post by Karen Pinto on 26.11.12 16:30

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Nottingham-couple-quizzed-Madeleine-case/story-17425672-detail/story.html

The SAME couple that apparently found BIN LADENS Lair!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/020304stagedcapture.html

This bit is particularly interesting:


In the spring of 1999, A British couple called Alan and Cindy Thompson were driving through Pakistan, in the very area that they're now talking about as being bin Laden's location. After driving for 11 hours on dirt roads they came to a checkpoint and were detained by armed Pakistani guards.

The next day the Dawn newspaper, one of the biggest newspapers in Pakistan, reported that this couple had found the secret lair of Osama bin Laden.

More interesting is that they reported that this location had been visited by US consulate officers, British, Australian, and Swiss ambassadors, and that it was guarded by a team of US commandoes.

After the couple were picked up by the British embassy they were invited to a garden party where all the British ambassadors and aid workers were bragging that they were stationed in the same area as bin Laden's secret hideout.

After the couple got back home to England they saw a newspaper article calling for the capture of bin Laden. This was a few months before Clinton signed an executive order mandating bin Laden to be killed on sight.

The couple immediately contacted Scotland Yard in London; they contacted the FBI and the Pentagon and in every case got nothing. No response, no request for an interview. Nothing.


Whats the odds of that eh???

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Post by roy rovers on 26.11.12 16:55

Maybe the Police want to question them about Lord Lucan.

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Re: OMG Mirror Front Page tomorrow!!! Raymond Hewlett again

Post by Guest on 26.11.12 16:59

Have merged your topic Karen as already being discussed here.

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Post by Karen Pinto on 26.11.12 17:13

candyfloss wrote:Have merged your topic Karen as already being discussed here.

Thank you

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Post by PeterMac on 26.11.12 22:15

More interesting is that they reported that this location had been visited by US consulate officers, British, Australian, and Swiss ambassadors, and that it was guarded by a team of US commandoes.
After the couple were picked up by the British embassy they were invited to a garden party where all the British ambassadors and aid workers were bragging that they were stationed in the same area as bin Laden's secret hideout.

1 The Garden Party incident is capable of independent verification.
2 How many "ambassadors" were present ?
3 The . . .
Oh - why bother ?

Are they mad, or deluded, or otherwise in need of psychiatric help ?
Or just part of the TM and CM manipulative machinery ?

We may never know.

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Post by Guest on 26.11.12 22:27

@PeterMac wrote:
More interesting is that they reported that this location had been visited by US consulate officers, British, Australian, and Swiss ambassadors, and that it was guarded by a team of US commandoes.
After the couple were picked up by the British embassy they were invited to a garden party where all the British ambassadors and aid workers were bragging that they were stationed in the same area as bin Laden's secret hideout.

1 The Garden Party incident is capable of independent verification.
2 How many "ambassadors" were present ?
3 The . . .
Oh - why bother ?

Are they mad, or deluded, or otherwise in need of psychiatric help ?
Or just part of the TM and CM manipulative machinery ?

We may never know.
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Post by russiandoll on 26.11.12 23:14

I hope that someone will break ranks, the relief would be enormous. What a hell certain people have made for themselves.

I think that if the group was questioned firmly about all the anomalies and discrepancies and felt under pressure someone would cave in. Oh how I hope for a reconstruction, ordered not requested... the Benny Hill show we would see for that evening would be very amusing were it not part of a tragedy.

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Post by tigger on 27.11.12 7:56

@PeterMac wrote:
More interesting is that they reported that this location had been visited by US consulate officers, British, Australian, and Swiss ambassadors, and that it was guarded by a team of US commandoes.
After the couple were picked up by the British embassy they were invited to a garden party where all the British ambassadors and aid workers were bragging that they were stationed in the same area as bin Laden's secret hideout.

1 The Garden Party incident is capable of independent verification.
2 How many "ambassadors" were present ?
3 The . . .
Oh - why bother ?

Are they mad, or deluded, or otherwise in need of psychiatric help ?
Or just part of the TM and CM manipulative machinery ?

We may never know.

How many British Ambassadors does the FO send to Pakistan? The number is always 1. There might been consular staff but if that quote is from the Thompsons it would weaken their story.
But the underqualified school leavers calling themselves journalists may be to blame.

If the arrival of a couple of 'adventurous' Brits wasn't too commonplace, they may well have been invited to a garden party. Which is usually given by the Ambassador, I expect in that climate a few times a year.
Bin Laden had been involved in the Nairobi bombing - Benazir Bhuto said on camera that Bin Laden died sometime in 2002. Some think she was murdered for that reason. Bin Laden was an asset to the CIA - alive until such time as his death could be used for political purposes.

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