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Savile Abuse Enquiry now covers 41 hospitals (was - Child Abuse Scandal: How close to the very top levels of society does this paedophile scandal reach?)

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Re: Savile Abuse Enquiry now covers 41 hospitals (was - Child Abuse Scandal: How close to the very top levels of society does this paedophile scandal reach?)

Post by Willo on 05.11.12 21:14

This is was a Yorkshire TV documentary. They went to America to document the uncovering a paedophile ring that involved many high ranking people.
Youtube blurb :

Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.


Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada.

At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asvl6kO1Vo8

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Post by PeterMac on 05.11.12 22:42

Hands up those who remember the film "Pretty Baby" ?

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Post by PeterMac on 05.11.12 22:43

Hands up those who remember the film "Pretty Baby" ?

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Post by Woofer on 05.11.12 23:13

Makes me wonder just who can you trust to undertake an independent enquiry - it seems anyone can be bought off or threatened including judges and other honourables. A certain labour politicians wife is a judge and who would trust her? ......... plus Levison has shown his bias already.

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Post by Ribisl on 05.11.12 23:21

@Willo wrote:This is was a Yorkshire TV documentary. They went to America to document the uncovering a paedophile ring that involved many high ranking people.
Youtube blurb :

Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.


Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada.

At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asvl6kO1Vo8

Willo, thank you for mentioning this video again. This documentary is so shocking and hard to stomach but I believe everybody who is interested in the current developments in the UK should watch and learn from it what kind of murky world we are dealing with.

The whole scandal emerged only because then up-and-coming Republican star Larry King was investigated and subsequently found guilty of stealing USD39 million from Franklin Federal Credit Union where he had been general manager for many years.

Instead of a children's home, here you find a whole complex called 'Boys Town' built to look after homeless boys who were then abused relentlessly and systematically by many rich and powerful patrons who formed a widespread paedophile ring. Many parallels are not easily missed.

Witnesses were frightened into altering their statements and were consequently charged for perjury. One girl actually spent longer in prison as a result than Larry King did for his embezzlement. The brother of a key witness dying under mysterious circumstances. The lead investigator's private plane explodes midair killing him and his young son. This is far worse than anything that's hit our headlines so far, this is about organised child rape, torture and murder.

Let us hope our society is better equipped to handle a scandal of similar magnitude and those brave men like Tom Watson and Steve Messham will remain free from any malice or harm to pursue justice.





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Post by aquarius2 on 06.11.12 0:31

Belgium and the Netherlands were taken to the cleaners, and thoroughly cleaned up in the last couple of years, the culprits being removed from office (mostly Roman Catholic Church, unfortunately) and the victims either being compensated in cash or outed and treated with all due respect for having suffered so much in the decennia it took to admitting the public knowledge of their suffering out in the open. In both countries, this was achieved by a South African inspired Truth Committee. Of course, Great Britain will fall over itself in a effort to follow suit.

I wish that were true, but both countries have unresolved issues and links to the evolving UK inquiry which hopefully will aid the quest for justice- remember the (ahem!) international "yachting fraternity" do move around a bit.

In the Netherlands the case of high-ranking "elder statesman" politician Joris Demmink is a running sore. This man is not just protected by a Dutch elite- he's protected internationally & be aware similar paedophile circles will be operating now within the UK now to protect their interests in the face of UK inquiries.

In the UK the public have yet to face full-on the issues of paedophila and power elites which the Belgians and Dutch have been aware of for some years. We need to learn from their experiences - and do better.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2012/October/Top-Dutch-Official-Facing-Child-Rape-Allegations/

http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:A_closer_look_at_child_abuse_networks_in_the_Netherlands_and_Belgium


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Re: Savile Abuse Enquiry now covers 41 hospitals (was - Child Abuse Scandal: How close to the very top levels of society does this paedophile scandal reach?)

Post by aquila on 06.11.12 16:00

I hope a hard-nosed female is in charge of the inquiry.

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Post by chrissie on 06.11.12 16:08

It's the head of National Crime agency.

The crime agency head, Keith Bristow, will look at how the historic
claims were handled, and at fresh allegations. He will report by April
2013, Mrs May told MPs.


The Serious and Organised Crime Agency and the Child
Exploitation and Online Protection Centre will also be involved.

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Post by Woofer on 06.11.12 16:11

candyfloss wrote:6 November 2012 Last updated at 15:21



May launches north Wales child abuse inquiry



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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20221959[/quote[/url]]

As long as its not just an Inquiry into The Inquiry and as long as the Inquirers themselves can be trusted not to do even more covering up. That woman is as slippery as an eel, manages to say all the right sounding words but doesn`t actually say anything.

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Post by Woofer on 06.11.12 16:18

Review to be led by High Court Judge Mrs. Justice Macur.

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Post by aquila on 06.11.12 16:23

@chrissie wrote:It's the head of National Crime agency.

The crime agency head, Keith Bristow, will look at how the historic
claims were handled, and at fresh allegations. He will report by April
2013, Mrs May told MPs.


The Serious and Organised Crime Agency and the Child
Exploitation and Online Protection Centre will also be involved.

What a shame it's not a female heading this inquiry. A female can't be accused of being part of the old boys' network or a mason.

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Post by Newintown on 06.11.12 16:27

@chrissie wrote:It's the head of National Crime agency.

The crime agency head, Keith Bristow, will look at how the historic
claims were handled, and at fresh allegations. He will report by April
2013, Mrs May told MPs.


The Serious and Organised Crime Agency and the Child
Exploitation and Online Protection Centre will also be involved.

Whenever CEOP is mentioned, I don't have any faith in whatever they're involved in, or am I being too cynical.

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Post by chrissie on 06.11.12 16:31

Can anyone help as I'm getting a little confused about the roles? Is it that Keith Bristow will be examining the previous evidence and any new evidence but Mrs. Justice Macur will be overseeing it all? Thanks

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Post by Woofer on 06.11.12 16:35

@chrissie wrote:Can anyone help as I'm getting a little confused about the roles? Is it that Keith Bristow will be examining the previous evidence and any new evidence but Mrs. Justice Macur will be overseeing it all? Thanks



Well I`ve just received a tweet from Sky News saying

"Downing Street: Review of Waterhouse Inquiry into allegations of child abuse in North Wales will be led by High Court Judge Mrs. Justice Macur ". Sorry don`t know how to copy tweets.

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Post by chrissie on 06.11.12 16:39

Thanks Woofer, I just saw that

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Downing St: Review of Waterhouse Inquiry into
allegations of child abuse in North Wales will be led by High Court
Judge Mrs Justice Macur

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Post by aquila on 06.11.12 16:47

Oh good, we have a female judge. In my perfect world the entire investigative team would be female and answerable only to a female head of the inquiry but that's just my preference.

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Post by Bob Southgate on 06.11.12 16:49

@Woofer wrote:As long as its not just an Inquiry into The Inquiry and as long as the Inquirers themselves can be trusted not to do even more covering up. That woman is as slippery as an eel, manages to say all the right sounding words but doesn`t actually say anything.



I wouldn't trust May any further than i could throw her. Her treatment of the police has been appalling and the appointment of Tom Winsor as HMIC, fresh from doing May's bidding with his far from independent review, is a shocking decision that borders on corrupt.

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Post by Woofer on 06.11.12 17:19

Just heard Teresa May speaking in parliament and she warned MPs not to use parliamentary privilege to name the MP that`s been accused as it could severely jeopardise a future trial. Tom Watson said he hoped she was serious about the Inquiry and to bear in mind whether she could live with herself if she was involved in yet more covering up. (He`s probably aware she`s good at speaking the speak). There seem to be a few Inquiries, 3 at the BBC and 2 in Wales - some people are asking for a nationwide enquiry rather than lots of little ones.

Don`t know the difference between what the National Crime Agency are requested to do and what Judge Macur is requested to do.

Lots of commentators on Tom Watson`s website are mentioning Jersey, Dunblane, Hollie Grieg, Operation Ore etc., so its certainly getting out there.

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Post by PeterMac on 06.11.12 18:09

@aquila wrote:Oh good, we have a female judge. In my perfect world the entire investigative team would be female and answerable only to a female head of the inquiry but that's just my preference.
Not sure why you think that would be good.
Here we remember Rose West, Myra Hindley, and Beverley Allitt, Sharon Matthews, Ilse Koch et al, amongst the most notorious.
And we do not forget the several women who are awaiting trial for more recent events.
I think we have to accept that all humans, of whatever type or persuasion, are capable of evil, wickedness and doing dreadful things.

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Post by Guest on 06.11.12 18:15

Also to bear in mind that - unfortunately - some high-ranking women got there and stayed, because they adapted to the culture and became "one of the boys" ...

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Post by Woofer on 06.11.12 18:19

Well hows about having Cherie Bliar leading the Inquiry - or is she just a judge and not a high court judge?

Only joking before you all jump on me.

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