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Post by aiyoyo on 03.09.12 10:31

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@aiyoyo wrote:Like PM said, why is it important for us to know what she was wearing?

Because the check pants were worn at work when she dealt with six dead bodies? Maybe she didn't want to admit she was wearing them and got Maddie's cadaver scent on them so she said she was wearing jeans?

Denim pants was mentioned in her early May interview whereas ganga pants was marked in Aug.
At that stage (May) she couldn't have known that her pants of ganga would become "object of interest" could she?

So whose outfit was she describing then? Hers or Maddie's




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Post by Hummingbird on 03.09.12 10:57

If Kate says that she had bathed the children and put the twins in jammies and nappies and that they were sitting down with a glass of milk and a biscuit (lets assume she means to include Madeleine here too) while she went for a shower at approx 6.30 then how come the nannies say that high tea was late that night and didn't finish till just gone 6 o clock? (Lets assume 6.05pm)

Some super human mother to take 3 children back to the apartment (5 minutes) get in to the apartment with 3 small children, run a bath (5 minutes) get them undressed - all 3 of them, bath them - all 3 of them (has to be a 10 minutes time line) get them out of the bath and dry all 3 of them (at least 5 minutes if not 10) get all 3 of them into clean pyjamas and nappies (again at least 5 minutes if not 10) settle them down quietly like angels on the sofa while you pour 3 glasses of milk and get 3 lots of biscuits out (again 5 minutes) now children please sit still do not move a muscle while mummy goes and has a shower! First would you leave 3 freshly bathed and clothed children all under the age of 4 sitting alone with glasses of milk while you went for a shower?
Second by now the time must be at least 6.45pm, there is no way the timing fits here at all. Those of you with children will know this not only will you have been putting things away and tidying up whilst the bath is being prepared you would have had some tidying up to do after the bath, before you went to have your shower and why not have a shower after the children have gone to bed? They tell us enough that they were tired so why not wait.
Perhaps DPs visit was to collect the twins after their little milky drink to settle them down at his apartment!!!!


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Post by Ross on 03.09.12 11:45

This is such a curious statement I'd like to go back to it again:

"They've taken her!"

Assuming this has been reported correctly, and those words were actually said, it begs a number of crucial questions.

As PeterMac pointed put in his original post, there were two girls in the flat, so the use of the third person pronoun simply does not convey the central point. If you went back to your apartment and found that your camera had been removed you would not say 'it has been taken', you would say 'the camera has been taken'. But we are not talking about an inanimate object, we are talking about her daughter, a nearly four year old left in an unlocked apartment, so the possibility of her wandering off by herself could not be ruled out at that stage. She may have discovered Madeleine gone, but logically there is no way that Healey could have known that she had been 'taken' at that point. 'Madeleine's gone' or Madeleine's not there' or possibly in a mother's panic 'someone's taken Madeleine' are what you would expect her to say.

The 'they' is even more curious. It is specific, the pronoun is used in place of the name of a pair or more people, either by name or designation. 'Someone' could be anyone, 'they' means specific people. The use of 'they' unavoidably implies that the identity of 'them' was known to the McCanns.

So there is only one logical way to read this statement. Some people, known to the McCanns, had the specific intention of taking Madeleine at some point, and as the McCanns have never raised this themselves, we can only assume they were in collusion with them. This would make the whole case a very different one from the one we have been fed. It also allows for the 'third position', where the McCanns' actions subsequently have been the result of coercion by persons unknown.

The other possibility of course is that the statement was not made as stated, it was either misreported or fabricated and inserted as (yet another) red herring to add to the confusion.

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Post by DaTroof on 03.09.12 12:16

I know this thread is about Kate's behaviour on 3rd May 2007, but I'm more concerned about Gerry's behaviour.

Look at the quote below taken from his second statement to the PJ made on 10th May 2007.

"About 10 minutes later, he started to worry about her taking so long, and, at the moment the deponent prepared to get up and to check why she was taking so long, KATE appeared running, completely distraught and crying, saying that MADELEINE had disappeared and that she was sure because she had looked throughout the entire house.

The deponent ran into the apartment accompanied by the rest of the group who, at the time, were seated at the table. When he arrived at the bedroom he first noticed that the door was completely open, the window was also open to one side, the shutters almost fully raised, the curtains drawn back, MADELEINE's bed was empty but the twins continued sleeping in their cots. He clarifies that according to what KATE told him, that was the scenario that she found when she entered the apartment.

Then he closed the shutters, made his way to the outside and tried to open them, which he managed to do, much to his surprise given that he thought that that was only possible from the inside."


Not only is this a barefaced lie (it is accepted that it is not possible to open the shutters from the outside) it is the most incredible thing to say. WHY would his first act upon arriving at the scene be to check whether it was possible to open the shutters from the outside. WHY would he think that he needed to make up this lie? WHY would he think about lying at all? WHY? WHY?WHY?

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Post by Guest on 03.09.12 12:32

Welcome DaTroof,

You will find an extensive debate on what you have just said in this thread about the shutters...........

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2550-the-shutters?highlight=The+shutters

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Post by Guest on 03.09.12 12:36

Does anyone have the vid of their first appeal to the press? Wasnt that made the next day? What clothes are KAte wearing there or did she take the time to change clothes the night of may 3? She wasnt out searhing so sure she would have had time but again, who thinks about that in a situation like that? to change their clothes...

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Post by Guest on 03.09.12 12:42

Moa wrote:Does anyone have the vid of their first appeal to the press? Wasnt that made the next day? What clothes are KAte wearing there or did she take the time to change clothes the night of may 3? She wasnt out searhing so sure she would have had time but again, who thinks about that in a situation like that? to change their clothes...



Here Moa, at 45 secs into the video.......

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Post by Guest on 03.09.12 13:08

candyfloss wrote:
Moa wrote:Does anyone have the vid of their first appeal to the press? Wasnt that made the next day? What clothes are KAte wearing there or did she take the time to change clothes the night of may 3? She wasnt out searhing so sure she would have had time but again, who thinks about that in a situation like that? to change their clothes...



Here Moa, at 45 secs into the video.......

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TY ! Seems like shes wearing jeans here, so I guess she talked about her own clothing then.. Also see that K and G are wearing matching shirts / sweaters in color .

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Post by tigger on 03.09.12 14:00

@DaTroof wrote:I know this thread is about Kate's behaviour on 3rd May 2007, but I'm more concerned about Gerry's behaviour.

Look at the quote below taken from his second statement to the PJ made on 10th May 2007.

"About 10 minutes later, he started to worry about her taking so long, and, at the moment the deponent prepared to get up and to check why she was taking so long, KATE appeared running, completely distraught and crying, saying that MADELEINE had disappeared and that she was sure because she had looked throughout the entire house.

The deponent ran into the apartment accompanied by the rest of the group who, at the time, were seated at the table. When he arrived at the bedroom he first noticed that the door was completely open, the window was also open to one side, the shutters almost fully raised, the curtains drawn back, MADELEINE's bed was empty but the twins continued sleeping in their cots. He clarifies that according to what KATE told him, that was the scenario that she found when she entered the apartment.

Then he closed the shutters, made his way to the outside and tried to open them, which he managed to do, much to his surprise given that he thought that that was only possible from the inside."


Not only is this a barefaced lie (it is accepted that it is not possible to open the shutters from the outside) it is the most incredible thing to say. WHY would his first act upon arriving at the scene be to check whether it was possible to open the shutters from the outside. WHY would he think that he needed to make up this lie? WHY would he think about lying at all? WHY? WHY?WHY?

Interesting. I think the interview lasted a very long time?

I think they are lying about things that are important to them - to their story.

Their story is based on the blinds and that was one of the disasters of the evening that Gerry found they could not be rolled up (with a lot of effort they roll up but crash down straight away - with a lot of noise).

I'm convinced that when Gerry said it was a disaster on the phone, he was talking about all the things that had gone wrong that evening. The shutters, being seen by the Smiths, 9 people instead of meeting say just one couple who might remember the lone man and child (I and many other think that he carried a live child through PdL to get independent witnesses to such a person being seen).

The GNR police had no idea what he was on about when he did his Masonic cry for help or whatever it was.

The timing was probably thrown out by Jeremy Wilkins and another ''check" had to be factured in (Oldfield).

The twins hadn't been returned to 5a and had to be retrieved from another apartment and hastily put down without sheets in the cots.

There is also some evidence that the first alarm was sounded earlier, about 9.30. There are various witness statements.

At 11.00 pm either Carpenter or McKenzie - who was searching in the bushes nr. 5a heard Gerry say on the phone that she'd been taken by a paedophile.

As to the 'they'who 'took'her. I believe they try to lie outright as little as possible. Imo that is probably true. The removal of the body was done by a third party so that Kate can legitimately say 'they took her'and Gerry can say that he 'had no part in the disappearance of my daughter''.

I personally think that the abduction was planned for the 2nd and that on the first the body was already gone - crying or not - it's a conumdrum but the 'story'is pretty tortuous as well.

Because we have the props: Cuddlecat, pink blanket, window impossible for child to negotiate. Proof of abduction.

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Post by AskTheDogsSandra on 03.09.12 14:06

Moa wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
Moa wrote:Does anyone have the vid of their first appeal to the press? Wasnt that made the next day? What clothes are KAte wearing there or did she take the time to change clothes the night of may 3? She wasnt out searhing so sure she would have had time but again, who thinks about that in a situation like that? to change their clothes...



Here Moa, at 45 secs into the video.......

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TY ! Seems like shes wearing jeans here, so I guess she talked about her own clothing then.. Also see that K and G are wearing matching shirts / sweaters in color .

So why did she change out of her pants of ganga then I wonder? Got a bit bloody and smelly perhaps and had to be washed along with the curtains that were behind the sofa. Far too busy to go out 'searching'. No need to go out 'searching' anyway was there Kate?

They like wearing matching clothes. It's almost like the family had two sets of twins and Madeleine was the odd one out. Not any more though, bless her.

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Post by Hummingbird on 03.09.12 15:14

Just reading through KM and GM very first statements given on the 4th and 10th May for GM and 4th May for KM .

Kates first statement is very short, concise and does not have much detail. GMs is the same not much detail really considering their daughter has gone missing and the very next day I would have thought you would give over as much info as possible to try to help anyway on to GMs on the 10th May a week after MMs disappearance.

He is very presice with his timings and events he stresses that the children went to bed at 'exactly' 20.45 on the first night he knows this to be correct because it is 'exactly' one hour later than their bedtimes in the UK (he stresses this) BUT then goes on to tell us that the twins go to bed at 19.00 and MM goes to bed at 19.30 when they are in UK. That is not 'exactly' one hour!!

He then tells us that the breakfast on the Sunday finished at 9.25 (to be precise) and they were back at the Ocean Club by 9.40 to check in the kids again he 'stresses' that he signed in MM as it was compulsory to do so! It was only a 15 minute walk, they make it sound like it was at least 30 minutes away and that is why they didn't eat there again.

The most significant thing is he says is on the day of MMs disappearance in the afternoon after KM and GM had played tennis together the twins then went to the meal area. This sounds as if they were with them otherwise he would have said the nannies took the twins! He then says at 17.00 accompanied by the nannies MM arrives and they finished at 17.30. Which is not what the nannies say.

This is the interesting bit. - at 17.30 they went to the apartment, the deponant having entered by the front door which he did not lock whilst inside. KM and the children entered by the back door after he had opened it. THEY bathed the children, the deponant having left at 18.00 for a tennis game.

Then DP comes into it, GM tells us that DP went to visit KM at 18.30 and did not return till 19.00 at which time after trying to convince GM to stay and play GM refusing, went back to the apartment at 19.00.

So who did bathe the children Kate alone or as GM says BOTH of them and why do the nannies tell us that the high tea finished late that day after 6pm yet GM tells us they were back in the apartment by 17.30????

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Post by aiyoyo on 03.09.12 16:07

After the children's bath, already alone, she put pyjamas and nappies on the twins, gave them each a glass of milk and biscuits. Before bathing the children and because it was early, they had thought of taking them to the recreation area, but then decided against this because of tiredness.

Wonder whether the initial interviews were recorded - would have been good to see verbatim transcripts.
She talked more about the twins and herself when Maddie should have been the only one who matters.
Why is it important to describe the twins and her outfits and say nothing about Maddie's?
So where does the idea about Maddie's pink pj originate from?

Gerry's lie is more obvious.
How does it matter whether shutters can be opened from inside or outside.
If it was left opened - that is all that should matter but how and why forth.
Why automatically assumes it was opened from the outside when they'd left the patio door?

The details of fabrication are all there in their initial interviews.




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Post by Genbug on 03.09.12 18:16

@Hummingbird wrote:Just reading through KM and GM very first statements given on the 4th and 10th May for GM and 4th May for KM .

Kates first statement is very short, concise and does not have much detail. GMs is the same not much detail really considering their daughter has gone missing and the very next day I would have thought you would give over as much info as possible to try to help anyway on to GMs on the 10th May a week after MMs disappearance.

He is very presice with his timings and events he stresses that the children went to bed at 'exactly' 20.45 on the first night he knows this to be correct because it is 'exactly' one hour later than their bedtimes in the UK (he stresses this) BUT then goes on to tell us that the twins go to bed at 19.00 and MM goes to bed at 19.30 when they are in UK. That is not 'exactly' one hour!!

He then tells us that the breakfast on the Sunday finished at 9.25 (to be precise) and they were back at the Ocean Club by 9.40 to check in the kids again he 'stresses' that he signed in MM as it was compulsory to do so! It was only a 15 minute walk, they make it sound like it was at least 30 minutes away and that is why they didn't eat there again.

The most significant thing is he says is on the day of MMs disappearance in the afternoon after KM and GM had played tennis together the twins then went to the meal area. This sounds as if they were with them otherwise he would have said the nannies took the twins! He then says at 17.00 accompanied by the nannies MM arrives and they finished at 17.30. Which is not what the nannies say.

This is the interesting bit. - at 17.30 they went to the apartment, the deponant having entered by the front door which he did not lock whilst inside. KM and the children entered by the back door after he had opened it. THEY bathed the children, the deponant having left at 18.00 for a tennis game.

Then DP comes into it, GM tells us that DP went to visit KM at 18.30 and did not return till 19.00 at which time after trying to convince GM to stay and play GM refusing, went back to the apartment at 19.00.

So who did bathe the children Kate alone or as GM says BOTH of them and why do the nannies tell us that the high tea finished late that day after 6pm yet GM tells us they were back in the apartment by 17.30????

I find it quite fascinating that Gerry remembers the exact timings of things they did all week, right down to the last minute. What is even more fascinating are the things he doesn't remember! From his statement of 7 September 2007...

"He does not remember if he had taken his mobile phone to the restaurant. He is under the impression that he did not take anything with him, except maybe his wallet. He was wearing tennis shoes, blue jeans and a light brown polar top. He does not remember what Kate was wearing that night. The arguido did not take a camera and does not remember if Kate did. He does not remember if anybody in the group took any photograph that night."

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Post by Guest on 03.09.12 18:19

Bet he remembers what Najoua Chekaya was wearing though

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Post by tigger on 03.09.12 18:21

But on the bed was a hastily pulled of pair of beige trousers, just like the abductor wore and exactly what the man seen by the Smiths wore.

I think the jeans didn't go on until after ten o'clock - when he came back from his jaunt in PdL.

I also think it was one of the things that made it such a 'disaster'. In one photograph the trousers are there, the next one they're gone. The Smiths sighting wasn't reported until the end of May.

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Post by Guest on 03.09.12 18:28

@tigger wrote:But on the bed was a hastily pulled of pair of beige trousers, just like the abductor wore and exactly what the man seen by the Smiths wore.

I think the jeans didn't go on until after ten o'clock - when he came back from his jaunt in PdL.

I also think it was one of the things that made it such a 'disaster'. In one photograph the trousers are there, the next one they're gone. The Smiths sighting wasn't reported until the end of May.

Just like the bag in the closet, in one photograph its there, the next one it's gone !

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Post by aiyoyo on 03.09.12 18:39

@Genbug wrote:
@Hummingbird wrote:Just reading through KM and GM very first statements given on the 4th and 10th May for GM and 4th May for KM .

Kates first statement is very short, concise and does not have much detail. GMs is the same not much detail really considering their daughter has gone missing and the very next day I would have thought you would give over as much info as possible to try to help anyway on to GMs on the 10th May a week after MMs disappearance.

He is very presice with his timings and events he stresses that the children went to bed at 'exactly' 20.45 on the first night he knows this to be correct because it is 'exactly' one hour later than their bedtimes in the UK (he stresses this) BUT then goes on to tell us that the twins go to bed at 19.00 and MM goes to bed at 19.30 when they are in UK. That is not 'exactly' one hour!!

He then tells us that the breakfast on the Sunday finished at 9.25 (to be precise) and they were back at the Ocean Club by 9.40 to check in the kids again he 'stresses' that he signed in MM as it was compulsory to do so! It was only a 15 minute walk, they make it sound like it was at least 30 minutes away and that is why they didn't eat there again.

The most significant thing is he says is on the day of MMs disappearance in the afternoon after KM and GM had played tennis together the twins then went to the meal area. This sounds as if they were with them otherwise he would have said the nannies took the twins! He then says at 17.00 accompanied by the nannies MM arrives and they finished at 17.30. Which is not what the nannies say.

This is the interesting bit. - at 17.30 they went to the apartment, the deponant having entered by the front door which he did not lock whilst inside. KM and the children entered by the back door after he had opened it. THEY bathed the children, the deponant having left at 18.00 for a tennis game.

Then DP comes into it, GM tells us that DP went to visit KM at 18.30 and did not return till 19.00 at which time after trying to convince GM to stay and play GM refusing, went back to the apartment at 19.00.

So who did bathe the children Kate alone or as GM says BOTH of them and why do the nannies tell us that the high tea finished late that day after 6pm yet GM tells us they were back in the apartment by 17.30????

I find it quite fascinating that Gerry remembers the exact timings of things they did all week, right down to the last minute. What is even more fascinating are the things he doesn't remember! From his statement of 7 September 2007...

"He does not remember if he had taken his mobile phone to the restaurant. He is under the impression that he did not take anything with him, except maybe his wallet. He was wearing tennis shoes, blue jeans and a light brown polar top. He does not remember what Kate was wearing that night. The arguido did not take a camera and does not remember if Kate did. He does not remember if anybody in the group took any photograph that night."

None of them even had watches on ........reportedly!

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Post by Hummingbird on 03.09.12 18:40

Perhaps this would explain the strange throwing oneself to his knees and then the strange 'wailing' on their knees of the both of them on the bed in the apartment - obviously trying to distract other peoples eyes ( the PJ ) from a certain pair of trousers or similar.


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Post by Hummingbird on 03.09.12 18:42

Oh and yes if there were no watches how the hell does he know what time it is and more importantly how the hell can they possibly know when it is time to go and do the next checks on the children??


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Post by aiyoyo on 03.09.12 18:45

Their wailing a la style Arab is most puzzling for a pair of doctors. Clever people caught out in foolish act.
They deserve oscars for their acting.

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Post by Guest on 03.09.12 18:49

@Hummingbird wrote:Oh and yes if there were no watches how the hell does he know what time it is and more importantly how the hell can they possibly know when it is time to go and do the next checks on the children??


There was a statement from one of the party (I'm hoping that somebody will be able to find it more readily than I can) that Gerry knew when he had to do a check just after nine as he looked at his watch.

It's just nonsense that not one person would be wearing a watch.

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Post by tigger on 03.09.12 18:49

@Hummingbird wrote:Oh and yes if there were no watches how the hell does he know what time it is and more importantly how the hell can they possibly know when it is time to go and do the next checks on the children??


Ah yes, but Gerry's watch is back in the bewk! Where it says something like 'at 9.05 exactly by his watch Gerry got up....etc.


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Post by aiyoyo on 03.09.12 18:53

@Hummingbird wrote:Oh and yes if there were no watches how the hell does he know what time it is and more importantly how the hell can they possibly know when it is time to go and do the next checks on the children??


They went on cue like a relay marathon - the moment they spotted one of them returning the next one go.
That is a dead giveaway it was a charade.
And they wonder why no one believes them - that an abductor having watching them for days would choose this night - when supervision is stepped up.
Their back to back supervision is their abduction story alibi and nothing else.

What's even weirdest is no one in the group notices the wide-opened windows and shutters except for Kate and Gerry.

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Post by tigger on 03.09.12 19:23

This is an old post from the 'Only in America' blog:

The other great difference between the truth and a lie is that the truth is usually simple and a lie is invariably complicated.

"We went out to dinner leaving the kids most nights and we came back and they were still there" is really simple.

As is, unfortunately, "We went out one night leaving the kids but one of them got out of the apartment and fell off the balcony". Or, "We went out one night leaving the kids and we got back and one of them had had a serious accident". Or, "We went out one night leaving the kids and we got back and one of them had got out and been run over by a car."

The alternative is somewhat more complicated: "We went out one night leaving the kids, not realising that we'd been watched by a predatory paedophile for several days, who we hadn't noticed, despite the resort being quiet and despite the fact that we felt it was safe to leave the kids, who targeted Madeleine rather than the other kids because she was special, who got into the apartment between our checks, despite the fact we'd doubled the frequency from the night before following the crying incident, which we can't recall happening, avoiding being noticed by Gerry, who was talking to Jez, on the other side of the road to that claimed by Jez and Jane, who wasn't seen by Jez or Gerry anyway, just before she saw the abductor, who must have gone out through the window, despite no-one noticing it open and without leaving any marks, because the door slammed when Kate went in, and it's odd about those dogs, but Kate had handled dead bodies when she went to work in her holiday pants and took the cuddle cat, and anyway the twins' sandals were in the boot of the car with the nappies and the rotting meat, but we're totally confident in each other's innocence and our legal and PR team are too."

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Lol

Post by aniandr on 03.09.12 19:35

So true.

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