We were taken on a ride

Thank you Angelique, uppacoffee, cristobell and candy for your replies and apologies for taking so long to get back online.

I had a very interesting conversation with the window cleaner a few days ago (who turns up every 6 weeks to shine the office windows).

Laid back Jamaican (UK born) who is well read and blessed with the gift of looking at the bigger picture and putting it all into perspective, he is cool, calm and collective.

'Charles what do you make of the Levenson enquiry'? his answer surprised me.

This is the gist of it:

'Tis all a whitewash. They want to convince us the minions that we are all equal, have a big show, make it look official and deadly serious, target those at the top i.e rogue politicians, media gurus, and anything else that they can drum up to add to the drama. Cart a few of to her majesty's luxurious camping grounds for a few months (all at the minions expense, naturally) and when it is all over the same fall guys will come back as if nothing had happened. Why you ask? well I will tell you why, it is because there is a plan, this plan has been in operation for a very long time, and it matters not a jot who gets elected because in order to get elected in the first place they have to sell their sole to the devil himself. The end game of this whole exercise is just another step towards depriving the 95 or so % percent of the population of this little planet of their basic human rights. The question is...........who are this little group of SICK elite that are masquerading as normal human beings, when infact they are ALIENS'.

I like Charles, he makes my day, even though his outlook is way beyond what I imagine.........it is food for thought.

9/11 anyone?

The above is not related to the Madeleine case, so, getting back to Madeleine.

I have no qualms about stating that Kate McCann gives me the creeps. I have heard the excuses i.e. until you have walked in their shoes, I don't buy that.

See I know exactly what it feels like to have a loved one disappear into thin air, and can remember all too well the reaction of family members who needed answers. Mother love is so powerfull it knows no bounds.

Mother love is this:

Your child is missing, your whole concentration is on finding said child, you as a mother will walk the streets searching, it will be others that will call the cops.

Gerry Mc Canns first call we are led to believe was not to the cops but to an old UNI buddy, who just so happened to be New Labours mover and shaker at the time, in fact it took Gerry a hell of a lot of time to call the cops but no time at all to call on his contacts and put in place a cash cow. By the way, there is no evidence of this bunch of misfits frantically searching for Madeleine (we have heard Kate's excuses), yet it appears that Gerry was busy attempting to get hold of a priest...........DISTURBING

From everything that I have read on this case, including the PJ files statements from the Tapas Group, their statements given to the Leicester police, mixed with Gerry and Kate McCanns own public airings, and the devil himself's hand in the sinister attempt to take us (the minions) back into the dark ages, I do believe that we are here for the long haul.

The problem with the Brits is that they have had it to good for to long, insular, have no insight into what struggle and strife is about, for that reason they are easily manipulated. As my good old yankee aunt would say "of boy, ain't that something".

pmsl revolution everywhere Arab Spring, the yanks and UK telling other nations what to do and dictating about democracy and instigating uprisings, yet here in the UK we the people have no say in what goes on, we just get to pay for the crap that goes on in our name (supposedly).

What will it take for the British people to grow a conscience? for heavens sakes we have Asslyum seekers from the UK Olympics even before the Olympics even take off, yet Julian Assange can't get assylum here .................IT IS TIME THAT WE SPEAK OUT

night all

But who do we speak out to? No one listens. And when people try to speak out they're sued.

Angelique wrote:Cristobel

It has become so huge as you say. From just an supposed abduction involving two forces of two Countries, we now have other Countries drawn in, though GM did say he wanted a Global Agenda. We now see so much detailed information surrounding Madeleine's disappearance it's difficult to see where it's going and whether there will ever be a final judgment.

And Kate is now ‘ambassador’ for a major charity Missing People expressing how great it would be if their current drive extended into Europe.

Some have speculated that at the heart of the matter was an Amber Alert global infrastructure coupled with microchipping of children as some sort of tracking system. A high profile case with high profile people and consensus media backing to sell it to the plebs.

If this hypothesis turns out to be correct then perhaps G & K arrest and arguido status didn’t derail such an agenda, simply delayed it, barely a hiccup in the greater scheme of things as the powers that be operate on a grander timescale than us mere mortals.

What is to be gained by such a scheme, well obviously one can imagine there are great sums of money at stake but the primary purpose one can speculate would be control, an eventual chipping of the entire global population by stealth, begin with the children who would grow up to see it as the norm, just have to get the first generation’s parents on board. If there were such a hidden dastardly plan as many modern day commentators believe, it would not be deflected.

We still have a missing child, a missing child with a global profile like no other. Unprecedented and seemingly inexplicable, and Kate’s recent appointment is interesting to say the least. But throwing logic aside for a moment as the implementation of such a scheme necessitates, what good would it do if Maddie were dead and as yet undiscovered?

None at all or at least very little, such a scheme in order to be effectively sold would have to be on the basis of recovery of living children, the gullible public would queue up far more readily for that. So it is with interest I note the current line being broadcast far and wide across the media from Team McCann, G & K, to all and sundry and perhaps, most surprisingly, the Metropolitan Police at Operation Grange, and that line of spin is not only that Madeleine is alive, but that she is being cared for by some loving family when not only logic (now reinstated) tells me, but also statistics common sense and just about everything else from cadaver and blood dogs and the fact even if there were evidence of a forced entry and abduction for such a purpose then logically one or both of the younger siblings would have been taken ahead of Maddie.

So perhaps (or perhaps not) Gerry’s global remarks are revealing and Kate’s recent appointment to Missing Person ambassador is simply a stepping stone to a greater appointment already earmarked quite some time ago.

If you ask me I really know not what to make of this theory proposed by some but in light of recent events, I for one will be watching this space.....

Monkeymind wrote:
.......So it is with interest I note the current line being broadcast far and wide across the media from Team McCann, G & K, to all and sundry and perhaps, most surprisingly, the Metropolitan Police at Operation Grange, and that line of spin is not only that Madeleine is alive, but that she is being cared for by some loving family when not only logic (now reinstated) tells me, but also statistics common sense and just about everything else from cadaver and blood dogs and the fact even if there were evidence of a forced entry and abduction for such a purpose then logically one or both of the younger siblings would have been taken ahead of Maddie.
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Logic also tells met that the coloboma - real or not is immaterial - argues against her living with a loving family. She'd have been found long, long ago. The McCanns still seem to be with the coloboma - the thing is present in the age advanced photographs, but is never mentioned!

tigger wrote:Monkeymind wrote:
.......So it is with interest I note the current line being broadcast far and wide across the media from Team McCann, G & K, to all and sundry and perhaps, most surprisingly, the Metropolitan Police at Operation Grange, and that line of spin is not only that Madeleine is alive, but that she is being cared for by some loving family when not only logic (now reinstated) tells me, but also statistics common sense and just about everything else from cadaver and blood dogs and the fact even if there were evidence of a forced entry and abduction for such a purpose then logically one or both of the younger siblings would have been taken ahead of Maddie.
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Logic also tells met that the coloboma - real or not is immaterial - argues against her living with a loving family. She'd have been found long, long ago. The McCanns still seem to be with the coloboma - the thing is present in the age advanced photographs, but is never mentioned!

Tigger , quite a lot is "never mentioned" , questions are not answered , stones are not unturned, medical records are not released, the public are not shown any respect , the only movement is KMC is made an ambassador

It migjt even be until next May and the anniversary when next we hear. OR...if some event of missing people happens and thr ambassador fills our screens with that pained expression and awful whiny voice. However the libel case is soon but somehow I dont think the Gb media will be that imterested. What is needed is some revelation which makes people sit up and notice.

yadda_yadda on Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:43 am



But who do we speak out to? No one listens. And when people try to speak out they're sued.
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There are many ways of speaking out.
1. Discuss your thoughts with family members and friends, encourage them to be proactive.
2. There are many active groups on the scene in UK today, sure they are mostly University Graduates, and some of them are just letting off steam, (the Governments media monitoring unit i,e, the propaganda machine that our daily tabloids take their Q from, tells us why all the headlines in all the tabloids carry the same old nonsense stories) and deflects from the growing movement out there.
3. I figured out a long time ago (Thatcher was the catalyst for me) that there was a serious and blatant effort by some very powerfull lunatics to undermine the SYSTEM. For me it meant looking outside our supposed system to find out what was going down. I found it with RT today. They are in effect classesd as a pro Russian channel so do not expect to find criticism of Russian politicians on there, but where they differ from UK outlets and USA outlets, is that RT gives real stories, so much so that americans are tuning out from USA news outlets and into RT today, and so much so that the 1% who control the agenda over there across the pond are paranoid about RT today. What RT offers us the minions is a look into what is really going on in our world, who the masters of doom are and where we are heading.

As the saying goes if you want to hear the truth, you have to look outside yourself.

Yadda, from where I am sitting, Thatcher was the catalyst, Thatcher was not someone that I would look upto, simply because her mothering instincts leave a lot to be desired. Where I give her credit is in her ability and sheer determination to put a stop to the Labour Unions grip, that was something that previous leaders through their own weakness failed to master. Apart from that, Thatcher was a cancer. Blair was a bigger cancer in that he masqueraded as a Labour man when we all know or should know by now that Blair is a right winger, this guy has gone on to make millions advising corrupt bankers, and that is the very reason that Cameron has not been able to distance his leadership from that of Blair the imposter. If Cameron wants to stay in power and make a difference he has to show leadership by distancing himself from the corruption of the past 13 years i.e. T. Blair. Cameron has not had it easy, he came to power with a massive headache, i,e, Blairs attempt to have all UK citizens microchiped in order to satisy Mr Blairs ambitions and some.
Looking back it is easy to see how Cameron became caught up in the T Blairs abuse of office. It is called the Murduch effect.
End of the day, it is not good enough, we need Cameron to act as an honest broker and for that to happen he needs to be honest enough to admit that it was shady politics that go where he is today, and that he is man enough to turn around the clock.

mira2 wrote:Thank you Angelique, uppacoffee, cristobell and candy for your replies and apologies for taking so long to get back online.

I had a very interesting conversation with the window cleaner a few days ago (who turns up every 6 weeks to shine the office windows).

Laid back Jamaican (UK born) who is well read and blessed with the gift of looking at the bigger picture and putting it all into perspective, he is cool, calm and collective.

'Charles what do you make of the Levenson enquiry'? his answer surprised me.

This is the gist of it:

'Tis all a whitewash. They want to convince us the minions that we are all equal, have a big show, make it look official and deadly serious, target those at the top i.e rogue politicians, media gurus, and anything else that they can drum up to add to the drama. Cart a few of to her majesty's luxurious camping grounds for a few months (all at the minions expense, naturally) and when it is all over the same fall guys will come back as if nothing had happened. Why you ask? well I will tell you why, it is because there is a plan, this plan has been in operation for a very long time, and it matters not a jot who gets elected because in order to get elected in the first place they have to sell their sole to the devil himself. The end game of this whole exercise is just another step towards depriving the 95 or so % percent of the population of this little planet of their basic human rights. The question is...........who are this little group of SICK elite that are masquerading as normal human beings, when infact they are ALIENS'.

I like Charles, he makes my day, even though his outlook is way beyond what I imagine.........it is food for thought.

9/11 anyone?

The above is not related to the Madeleine case, so, getting back to Madeleine.

I have no qualms about stating that Kate McCann gives me the creeps. I have heard the excuses i.e. until you have walked in their shoes, I don't buy that.

See I know exactly what it feels like to have a loved one disappear into thin air, and can remember all too well the reaction of family members who needed answers. Mother love is so powerfull it knows no bounds.

Mother love is this:

Your child is missing, your whole concentration is on finding said child, you as a mother will walk the streets searching, it will be others that will call the cops.

Gerry Mc Canns first call we are led to believe was not to the cops but to an old UNI buddy, who just so happened to be New Labours mover and shaker at the time, in fact it took Gerry a hell of a lot of time to call the cops but no time at all to call on his contacts and put in place a cash cow. By the way, there is no evidence of this bunch of misfits frantically searching for Madeleine (we have heard Kate's excuses), yet it appears that Gerry was busy attempting to get hold of a priest...........DISTURBING

From everything that I have read on this case, including the PJ files statements from the Tapas Group, their statements given to the Leicester police, mixed with Gerry and Kate McCanns own public airings, and the devil himself's hand in the sinister attempt to take us (the minions) back into the dark ages, I do believe that we are here for the long haul.

The problem with the Brits is that they have had it to good for to long, insular, have no insight into what struggle and strife is about, for that reason they are easily manipulated. As my good old yankee aunt would say "of boy, ain't that something".

pmsl revolution everywhere Arab Spring, the yanks and UK telling other nations what to do and dictating about democracy and instigating uprisings, yet here in the UK we the people have no say in what goes on, we just get to pay for the crap that goes on in our name (supposedly).

What will it take for the British people to grow a conscience? for heavens sakes we have Asslyum seekers from the UK Olympics even before the Olympics even take off, yet Julian Assange can't get assylum here .................IT IS TIME THAT WE SPEAK OUT

night all

My head constantly revolves around exactly what you have said, to the point that my sleep is broken because of dreams. I have been in the position where a family member told us that his wife had left him. We had no reason to doubt him but over the next 15 years he changed beyond all recognition, both in personality and looks. Fifteen years later all Hell broke loose as his wife's body was found in his house (long story). The point is, I can't understand how anyone, whether they did something accidentally or on purpose could go about their everyday life without changing. Our family thought he had changed because his wife had left him with a little child but looking back it should have been obvious.

Your window cleaner is a very sensible person. We are conditioned to look at what is presented to us and accept it and that is the reason I love this forum - because folk here refuse to accept what is laid out as truth when it is so obvious there is so much more to the tale.

I still can't get my head around the fact there was no DNA in apartment 5A, nobody has ever come forward to say their child played with Madeleine, no nursery teacher or doctor has come forward to say they had contact with the girl. It is as if she never existed!! I go off on a tangent once I start reading on the internet and one thing that sticks out in my mind was a Natal Chart for Madeleine which was done not long after she went missing. The chart said she was coming up as a 'twin'. I am in no way into astrology (mainly because it's too difficult) but it would make sense as the photo's show at least two different children.

One thing I did read was about an Italian doctor who specialised in IVF and intended Human Cloning. He stated that it was going ahead and he had eight British women lined up to accept the first cloned babies and that was in 2001.

To be honest I am not sure I am making sense as I can't make sense myself of this whole saga. We have a child who was 'abducted' but no trace of her, apart from Cadaver odour, was found in the apartment, nobody has come forward to say they knew her etc. etc.

Re: We were taken on a ride
cath2756 Today at 1:10 am

mira2 wrote:Thank you Angelique, uppacoffee, cristobell and candy for your replies and apologies for taking so long to get back online.

I had a very interesting conversation with the window cleaner a few days ago (who turns up every 6 weeks to shine the office windows).

Laid back Jamaican (UK born) who is well read and blessed with the gift of looking at the bigger picture and putting it all into perspective, he is cool, calm and collective.

'Charles what do you make of the Levenson enquiry'? his answer surprised me.

This is the gist of it:

'Tis all a whitewash. They want to convince us the minions that we are all equal, have a big show, make it look official and deadly serious, target those at the top i.e rogue politicians, media gurus, and anything else that they can drum up to add to the drama. Cart a few of to her majesty's luxurious camping grounds for a few months (all at the minions expense, naturally) and when it is all over the same fall guys will come back as if nothing had happened. Why you ask? well I will tell you why, it is because there is a plan, this plan has been in operation for a very long time, and it matters not a jot who gets elected because in order to get elected in the first place they have to sell their sole to the devil himself. The end game of this whole exercise is just another step towards depriving the 95 or so % percent of the population of this little planet of their basic human rights. The question is...........who are this little group of SICK elite that are masquerading as normal human beings, when infact they are ALIENS'.

I like Charles, he makes my day, even though his outlook is way beyond what I imagine.........it is food for thought.

9/11 anyone?

The above is not related to the Madeleine case, so, getting back to Madeleine.

I have no qualms about stating that Kate McCann gives me the creeps. I have heard the excuses i.e. until you have walked in their shoes, I don't buy that.

See I know exactly what it feels like to have a loved one disappear into thin air, and can remember all too well the reaction of family members who needed answers. Mother love is so powerfull it knows no bounds.

Mother love is this:

Your child is missing, your whole concentration is on finding said child, you as a mother will walk the streets searching, it will be others that will call the cops.

Gerry Mc Canns first call we are led to believe was not to the cops but to an old UNI buddy, who just so happened to be New Labours mover and shaker at the time, in fact it took Gerry a hell of a lot of time to call the cops but no time at all to call on his contacts and put in place a cash cow. By the way, there is no evidence of this bunch of misfits frantically searching for Madeleine (we have heard Kate's excuses), yet it appears that Gerry was busy attempting to get hold of a priest...........DISTURBING

From everything that I have read on this case, including the PJ files statements from the Tapas Group, their statements given to the Leicester police, mixed with Gerry and Kate McCanns own public airings, and the devil himself's hand in the sinister attempt to take us (the minions) back into the dark ages, I do believe that we are here for the long haul.

The problem with the Brits is that they have had it to good for to long, insular, have no insight into what struggle and strife is about, for that reason they are easily manipulated. As my good old yankee aunt would say "of boy, ain't that something".

pmsl revolution everywhere Arab Spring, the yanks and UK telling other nations what to do and dictating about democracy and instigating uprisings, yet here in the UK we the people have no say in what goes on, we just get to pay for the crap that goes on in our name (supposedly).

What will it take for the British people to grow a conscience? for heavens sakes we have Asslyum seekers from the UK Olympics even before the Olympics even take off, yet Julian Assange can't get assylum here .................IT IS TIME THAT WE SPEAK OUT

night all

My head constantly revolves around exactly what you have said, to the point that my sleep is broken because of dreams. I have been in the position where a family member told us that his wife had left him. We had no reason to doubt him but over the next 15 years he changed beyond all recognition, both in personality and looks. Fifteen years later all Hell broke loose as his wife's body was found in his house (long story). The point is, I can't understand how anyone, whether they did something accidentally or on purpose could go about their everyday life without changing. Our family thought he had changed because his wife had left him with a little child but looking back it should have been obvious.

Your window cleaner is a very sensible person. We are conditioned to look at what is presented to us and accept it and that is the reason I love this forum - because folk here refuse to accept what is laid out as truth when it is so obvious there is so much more to the tale.

I still can't get my head around the fact there was no DNA in apartment 5A, nobody has ever come forward to say their child played with Madeleine, no nursery teacher or doctor has come forward to say they had contact with the girl. It is as if she never existed!! I go off on a tangent once I start reading on the internet and one thing that sticks out in my mind was a Natal Chart for Madeleine which was done not long after she went missing. The chart said she was coming up as a 'twin'. I am in no way into astrology (mainly because it's too difficult) but it would make sense as the photo's show at least two different children.

One thing I did read was about an Italian doctor who specialised in IVF and intended Human Cloning. He stated that it was going ahead and he had eight British women lined up to accept the first cloned babies and that was in 2001.

To be honest I am not sure I am making sense as I can't make sense myself of this whole saga. We have a child who was 'abducted' but no trace of her, apart from Cadaver odour, was found in the apartment, nobody has come forward to say they knew her etc. etccCATH
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cath, you have learned the hard way that everything is not allways as it seems.
The problem with high profile cases such as this where those is question hire high profile lawyers and court the media (corrupt elements) is that attaining justice is a hit and miss affair. Justice is measured by the size of your wallet, it is hailed as Democracy by USA and UK, we the taxpayer should by now know that it is all a play on words and that the wests democracy is a mechanism for the very elite few who play by the rules dictated by the 1% percenters of SICKOS to amass great waelth at our expense. We do not have to put up with this nonsense, it is our hard earned dollars that pays for it, we need answers as to where it is going. WE NEED TO DEMAND THOSE ANSWERS.

If you google Dr Martin Roberts there is a wonderful article few days back that should put the Madeleine McCann case into perspective.

P.S. Anyone on here a member of websleuths? some nutter on there by the name of Brit claiming to be a scientist spending days on end attempting to make the tapas Group look like victims. Looks like a paid chimp to me, for no other reason than if you did not see the McCanns as someway answerable, you would not be bothered as an unconnected member of the public to make excuses for them.
End of the day my gripe is with the UK Government of the day, if they had been acting honourably and putting the interests of the victim upfront, this case should have been resolved early on. Dr Martin Roberts give a very good reason as to why the whereabouts of Madeleine McCann is of litle or no importance, whereas the protection of the Tapas Group is vital.
SICK

I think it is the "raising up and exoneration" of Kate as Ambassador and the articles of Dr. Roberts recently posted (especially his "Threatening Gestures") that has stunned most of us - we are as David to their Goliath. We have so little chance against the political machinations afoot.

I fear we will not see justice done for Madeleine and Dr. Roberts is not holding his breath either.