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.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Kate McCann: "I think I could probably forgive the abductor.".....Kate McCann: "What we need is for the Portuguese police to reopen the case. That is crucial."...Gonçalo Amaral: "For the McCanns to ask for the process to be reopened, all it would take is a letter to the prosecutor...it costs them nothing, just the stamp on the letter."....The McCann couple or their Tapas friends could force the reopening of the process if they would do the reconstruction....In 2007 British Ambassador Alexander W. Ellis admitted that the British Police had developed evidence against Kate and Gerry McCann.....Assistant Chief Constable for Leicestershire police: “While one or both of the McCanns may be innocent there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.”....Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent: "The crucial part of the evidence appears to be a complete match of Madeleine's DNA in the boot of the hire car"...Inspector Ricardo Paiva: "It was Scotland Yard who first thought it could be a murder case."......British criminal profiler NPIA, Lee Rainbow: "Madeleine's father was the last one to see her alive. The family is a lead that should be followed. Contradictions in Gerald McCann's statements might lead us to suspect a homicide."...Francisco Moita Flores: "Scotland Yard has made another two million pounds available to search for Maddie McCann"....Gonçalo Amaral: "Elements from the Scotland Yard have been working with an investigative PJ team from Oporto, and what is known is that the “affair” is not going well for the McCanns.".....Scotland Yard dismisses work done by the private agency “Método” 3 hired by the McCann couple....Martin Grime: "Not all the alert signals have been investigated by the appropriate agencies in order to provide forensic comparations, in spite of indications to the contrary.".....

.....................................................................................................................................Martin Brunt: "There are 30 Met officers - the equivalent of a murder squad - working on the review and I'm told that a senior officer is having to give regular spending updates to the Home Office which is funding an operation that will cost several million and last many months."....Gonçalo Amaral: "The English can always present the conclusions to which they themselves arrived in 2007. Because they know, they have the evidence of what happened - they don't need to investigate anything. All this is now a mere 'show off'.....Manuel Catriano: "This story did not begin in the Ocean Club, but in London where the 'official truth' was conspired and established: an English girl was kidnapped in the Algarve."....Gonçalo Amaral: "Dr Katherina Gaspar witnesses a scene with David Payne and Gerry McCann which flabbergasts her and makes her fear for the safety of her daughter and the other children"....Gonçalo Amaral: " I have understood their game. The McCanns knew that I was going to catch them. So the game is always the same. We want to catch them, they want to escape, and that's it. Sometimes the bandits win, sometimes the policemen do."....Gonçalo Amaral: "Under the old Penal Process, how do I ask Kate: "Are you lying when you say you didn't touch the window? As a matter of fact, it was you who opened the window. We have material evidence of that. A question like this forces the constitution of arguido...".....Tony Bennett: "The Madeleine Foundation has now sent a 32-page letter and a bundle of supporting evidence to the Scotland Yard 'Maddie Case' Review Team".............Gonçalo Amaral: "The little girl died in the apartment. Everything is in the book, which is faithful to the investigation until September: it reflects the understanding of the Portuguese and the English police and of the Public Ministry. For all of us until then the concealment of the cadaver, the simulation of abduction and the exposure or abandonment were proved."...Gonçalo Amaral: "For the McCanns to ask for the process to be reopened, all it would take is a letter to the prosecutor...it costs them nothing, just the stamp on the letter."...Gonçalo Amaral: "The investigation will be concluded, it will be reopened and it will be taken to an end; and justice will be made, that is all that we want."...Gonçalo Amaral: "There are hundreds of indications, clues regarding a certain event; and it is that event that some people do not accept and want to conceal."...Kate Healy was not immediately made an arguida, but merely interviewed voluntarily as a witness. Only after her interview was she made an arguida, that is, after she was confronted with concrete facts that might lead to her incrimination."...Gonçalo Amaral: "If the McCanns admit that their daughter is dead, they can no longer collect money from the Maddie fund, and that's a lot of money, over one million pounds. That's why they say that the girl was abducted."...Kate McCann: "This pair (Carter Ruck lawyers) continue to do a vast amount of work for us, without payment, most of it quietly behind the scenes."...Gonçalo Amaral: "Nowadays I have no doubts left, the archival for various reasons, was mainly due to political pressures made by the English - I have no doubts about that."...Gonçalo Amaral: "I remind you that they demanded the archiving of the process, in 2008, when they were arguidos, merely to defend their image. They are not interested in the reopening of the process or of the investigation"...Gonçalo Amaral: "It's too big and too serious a burden to be concealed by so many people for their entire lives."...Gonçalo Amaral: "Let's remember it is totally logical to find Madeleine's DNA in the home, but absolutely not in a car rented more than twenty days after her disappearance."...Tony Bennett: "The question is: exactly what is it about Madeleine's disappearance that caused such a massive level of government activity, including MI5 and secret service type groups like Control Risks Group, to become involved, and so quickly and in such large numbers? Was it to help find a missing child? Or to locate an abductor?...Martin Grime: "My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant."...Gonçalo Amaral: "If the body had been buried there would have been mummification. The fact that there were fluids points to refrigeration."...Dr Vernon Coleman: "Would you hire the McCanns as babysitters?"...Gonçalo Amaral: "there were gestures and words indicating the existence of a child molester within that group of people"...Jose Barra da Costa, PJ: "There are people who guarantee that this is a couple who practice 'swinging' - i.e. sexual relationships between couples and then changing partners, and that this practice would allow in this type of..."...Justine McGuiness: "We were a bit naughty because we did have messages coming out of the police station which we weren't supposed to..."...C443 J.N. HUGHES: Background Information- Gerald McCANN - A search of the local section of the child abuse shows a registration number 19309 in the CATS system....Dr Katherina Gaspar: "I remember Dave telling Gerry something like “she”, referring to Madeleine, “would do this”.. While he mentioned the word 'this', David was doing the action of sucking one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, while with his other hand he was doing a circle around his nipple. I remember being shocked by that."...Sofia Leal: “My husband and I have never abandoned our daughters, or allowed paedophiles in our circle of friends. I am shocked that a couple who affirm to be religious is seeking out to destroy our family”...Gerry McCann: "There's no evidence that Madeleine is dead and there's no evidence to implicate us in her death"...

................................................................................................................................................................................................ Gerry McCann: "It is something we raised at Leveson that Madeleine and her safety is often treated with complete contempt"....Carlos Anjos, president of ASFIC/PJ: “What the McCanns did was...they've put on their internet page “We asked the authorities”, but they didn't, because to ask means to send a request to the Prosecutor's Office or to the Judiaciary Police, and that didn't happen. I think what we have here it's some sort of deception.”....................................................   

American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

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Post  candyfloss on Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:06 am

Just found some videos re the review from American TV - Andy Redwood saying Madeleine taken by stranger in criminal act..................



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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  friedtomatoes on Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:53 pm

ok let me get this straight, here we have a redwood saying he believes there was a criminal act and madeleine was taken by a stranger but in the same few days of interviews in late april he said they were working on two theories, one that she was alive and one that she was dead, ah so it was an abduction whatever the outcome, get it now, they are working on stranger abduction full stop! what about the doggies andy?????

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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  tcat on Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:29 pm

I don't think that's what he means at all. He makes a lot more sense in the 3rd video than he did on Panorama (but perhaps the Panorama clips were sloppily edited or hastily produced) - he says they have completely open minds about the case, are still collating all the evidence and therefore in no position to rule out either of the possibilities that Madeleine is alive or dead. In case she is still alive we have produced the age progressed picture and if she is still alive it's most likely she was actually abducted by a stranger, he says, but nowhere in these videos (or on Panorama I think) does he say we've reached or are reaching the conclusion that she was abducted - he's just saying while we're still gathering and examining all of the evidence we have to be open minded to all possibilities.

I think we have to be fair to Mr Redwood, I'm sure he's well aware you know who will begin spinning furiously if he's not very careful with his words.

Maybe he shouldn't have done all these interviews (maybe he didn't want to do them, but was told to? Who knows)

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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  mira2 on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:37 pm

I think we have to be fair to Mr Redwood, I'm sure he's well aware you know who will begin spinning furiously if he's not very careful with his words.

Maybe he shouldn't have done all these interviews (maybe he didn't want to do them, but was told to? Who knows)



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tcat, you might just be making some sense of a nonsense.

What I do not understand is the hows and whys of Andy Redwood appearing on our television screens to declare that an he believes that Madeleine Mc Cann was abducted, bearing in mind that the UK have no jurisdiction over this case, and from what I have read up on this case, blocked requests from the Portugeuse authorities to hand over credit card details, phone records, and medical records.

This is UK taxpayers money, and we the taxpayer need to know that it is being spent wisely, we have no problem with Mr Cameron announcing that he has put 3 million towards a review of the Madeleine case, our objection is that his review has amounted so far to a publicity exercise at the taxpayers expense, and zero towards putting right the UK Government of the days determination that Gerry and Kate Mc Cann and their fellow NHS professionals (child minders) interests were way more important than the fate of a 3 year old in their care.

It is a fact that Andy Redwoods televised comments coincided with McCann INC, agenda to cash in on Madeleine.

This is sick.

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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  tcat on Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:19 pm

mira2 wrote:
tcat, you might just be making some sense of a nonsense.

Just giving my opinion If you're right then it might just be their biggest mistake - they'll be more notorious than Lindbergh.

I prefer to wait and see what happens with the review.

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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  mira2 on Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:19 am

tcat on Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:19 pm





mira2 wrote:
tcat, you might just be making some sense of a nonsense.

Just giving my opinion If you're right then it might just be their biggest mistake - they'll be more notorious than Lindbergh.

I prefer to wait and see what happens with the review
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ok tcat
For me the waiting game is over, it has become clear as the light of day that the review was nothing more than a politicical manouver.
Cameron, has been outed, he announced that there would be 3 million squid of taxpayers hard earned dosh put towards a review of the Madeleine case, what he forgot to tell us taxpayers was that he was under the spell of Murdock, and that his acquintance R Brooks, had him over a barell.
To be honest, I do not believe for one moment that Cameron is a shady character, i like him, I think Cameron is a breath of fresh air, and YES he DID have the guts to appoint Leveson to carry out a review into press practices. It is my gut feeling that Cameron like the rest of us is attempting to get back to honest politics, and lets face it after a decade of corruption in the scale that we are seeing, it is no surprise to me that Cameron felt the need to comply with the forces he met in order to stabilise whatever was happening.

The point is this: Gerry and Kate Mc Cann are nothing more than the parents of a child who disappeared into thin air whilst supposedly on holliday with themselves and a group of fellow NHS professionals. I have followed this case from late May 2007, initially I picked up on this case because the message was out there loud and clear British child abducted n the Algarve, could be in the hands of a group of international paedo's Morroco here we come.
For me that was enougbh to tell me that the parents of this child had some serious Q's to answer.
It was my belief from early on that Kate Mc Cann should have been treated as a suspect due to the fact that she was the mother of a 3 year old and 2, 18 month old babies. Lets face it what kind of mother nr right mind would go out for a night leaving children of this home alone door ajar, mates given the okies to pop in and out to check on the kiddies.
I tell you this in not normal practice in fact this is what i would deem child abuse.
Gerry and Kate McCann were quick to cash on the demise of their daughter, after all they getting untold behind the scenes cooperation from Murdochs dirty tabloids. I have not read Kate's bookie wookie, but didn't she claim that her and Gerry were were invited to dinner in the Algarve by shhhhhhhhhhh.
The Leveson enquiry has been interesting in that it has given credibilty to what those of us with a conscience have been saying over and over again.
Now that we know that the review was a whitewash at the bequest of Murdoch ( unofficial UK leader of the house) we know we are on the right track.

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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  friedtomatoes on Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:21 am

tcat wrote:I don't think that's what he means at all. He makes a lot more sense in the 3rd video than he did on Panorama (but perhaps the Panorama clips were sloppily edited or hastily produced) - he says they have completely open minds about the case, are still collating all the evidence and therefore in no position to rule out either of the possibilities that Madeleine is alive or dead. In case she is still alive we have produced the age progressed picture and if she is still alive it's most likely she was actually abducted by a stranger, he says, but nowhere in these videos (or on Panorama I think) does he say we've reached or are reaching the conclusion that she was abducted - he's just saying while we're still gathering and examining all of the evidence we have to be open minded to all possibilities.

I think we have to be fair to Mr Redwood, I'm sure he's well aware you know who will begin spinning furiously if he's not very careful with his words.

Maybe he shouldn't have done all these interviews (maybe he didn't want to do them, but was told to? Who knows)


his position is clear listen here at 2 30 HE believes she is still alive and a stranger took her and goes on to talk about other cases where children are found years later

what about the cadaver dog andy??????????

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4781-dci-redwood-on-daybreak-video-added

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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  Ribisl on Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:16 am

friedtomatoes wrote:
tcat wrote:I don't think that's what he means at all. He makes a lot more sense in the 3rd video than he did on Panorama (but perhaps the Panorama clips were sloppily edited or hastily produced) - he says they have completely open minds about the case, are still collating all the evidence and therefore in no position to rule out either of the possibilities that Madeleine is alive or dead. In case she is still alive we have produced the age progressed picture and if she is still alive it's most likely she was actually abducted by a stranger, he says, but nowhere in these videos (or on Panorama I think) does he say we've reached or are reaching the conclusion that she was abducted - he's just saying while we're still gathering and examining all of the evidence we have to be open minded to all possibilities.

I think we have to be fair to Mr Redwood, I'm sure he's well aware you know who will begin spinning furiously if he's not very careful with his words.

Maybe he shouldn't have done all these interviews (maybe he didn't want to do them, but was told to? Who knows)


his position is clear listen here at 2 30 HE believes she is still alive and a stranger took her and goes on to talk about other cases where children are found years later
what about the cadaver dog andy??????????
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4781-dci-redwood-on-daybreak-video-added

Dan Lobb:

Do you believe she is still alive?

Redwood:

Yes I do.

Yes, he makes his opinion absolutely clear in that interview. I am surprised he has taken that stance and don't understand what has led him to that opinion, but evidently that's what he believes. If his aim was simply to keep the MCs guessing, then I don't think they would have spent their resources producing that age progression picture.

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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  Cristobell on Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:17 pm

mira2 wrote:I think we have to be fair to Mr Redwood, I'm sure he's well aware you know who will begin spinning furiously if he's not very careful with his words.

Maybe he shouldn't have done all these interviews (maybe he didn't want to do them, but was told to? Who knows)



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tcat, you might just be making some sense of a nonsense.

What I do not understand is the hows and whys of Andy Redwood appearing on our television screens to declare that an he believes that Madeleine Mc Cann was abducted, bearing in mind that the UK have no jurisdiction over this case, and from what I have read up on this case, blocked requests from the Portugeuse authorities to hand over credit card details, phone records, and medical records.

This is UK taxpayers money, and we the taxpayer need to know that it is being spent wisely, we have no problem with Mr Cameron announcing that he has put 3 million towards a review of the Madeleine case, our objection is that his review has amounted so far to a publicity exercise at the taxpayers expense, and zero towards putting right the UK Government of the days determination that Gerry and Kate Mc Cann and their fellow NHS professionals (child minders) interests were way more important than the fate of a 3 year old in their care.

It is a fact that Andy Redwoods televised comments coincided with McCann INC, agenda to cash in on Madeleine.

This is sick.








Apologies I am never quite clear who I am replying to - if its tecat or mira. its why I use a large font incidentally, terrible eyes and not very technical. This case does become curiouser and curiouser. And I feel less confident at this moment, that the truth will ever come out. However, I don't see that as a happy outcome for the Mccanns, they will never achieve that peak of fame again. Those early days, when everyone believed them. I have lost track of what it is they are seeking - I think it could be some kind of papal exoneration, public backing again.

I remember Kate once saying that if they were arrested the public wouldn't stand for it, or some such words. I haven't quoted verbatim. I got the implication that there would be a public outcry if they were accused. It was a masterstroke from a media perspective, claim a huge following and don't dig too deep. Ditto, appealing to the catholics in a catholic country. However, they were they naieve? (sp), as Gerry told Jeremy, 'and in some ways they reaped a worldwind', again not verbatim, but a fleeting nod to the bad headlines. Not our fault guv.

I am not entirely sure what the phrase 'Search for Madeleine' means. Even the parents would be hard pushed to recognise her now, and staring intently at a small girl and taking her picture is likely to any adult arrested. Like most adults, I rarely take more than a cursory glance at other people's children. If I come across a screaming lost toddler in a supermarket, I have to weigh up the options of taking said child by the hand up to the help desk, for fear of being rugby tacked by burly security guards, and a hanging mob. That's never happened by the way. Incidentally, I would always go for grab the child by the hand option, I'd rather be screamed at by a panicked, but hopefully, much relieved mother, than to read about tragic outcomes days later.

With this cases, it always seems as if they are digging a deepeer and deeper hole. However, we have seen recently, that even with the 'dingo ate my baby' case, there will always be doubters. However, as long as there is such vagueness around the night of the 3rd May, and the frankly odd, behaviour thereafter, people will continue to question. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.



If I am following this correctly, aren't the Portuguese Police carrying out a review too? It will be very interesting to see the findings from each. One or both, will have to publish their results to give that air of transparency the taxpayers may demand. However, it is a hobsons choice for the mccanns. It cannot exonerate them without the results being published, and if it remains under wraps, there will always be suspicion. I have no idea how the mccanns remain so calm.




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Re: American Videos of Review of Madeleine Case and Andy Redwood comments

Post  jd on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:31 am

Can anyone clarify for certain, that if the PJ reopened the case..... what access to the files Scotland Yard would have? Would SY have total access to all of them or would the PJ still be able to keep private the files they wanted to. Is SY simply just a review, and the PJ are the police investigators who are not obliged to reveal what they know to anybody else?


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