The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  jd on Wed May 23, 2012 1:08 pm

Thank you Hummingbird. I need to read this slowly as bible passages goes past me at times. Number 16 says "No!" she said to him. "Sending me away would be a greater wrong than what you have already done to me." But he refused to listen to her. " I wonder if the PJ saw anything in this to ask kate mccann the question if she was planning on having Maddie adopted. This number is under the highlighted grey part of the PJ files...just a thought

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  aquila on Wed May 23, 2012 1:23 pm

jd wrote:Thank you Hummingbird. I need to read this slowly as bible passages goes past me at times. Number 16 says "No!" she said to him. "Sending me away would be a greater wrong than what you have already done to me." But he refused to listen to her. " I wonder if the PJ saw anything in this to ask kate mccann the question if she was planning on having Maddie adopted. This number is under the highlighted grey part of the PJ files...just a thought


To me the only number that's missing is 4.

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  Hummingbird on Wed May 23, 2012 2:05 pm

jd wrote:Thank you Hummingbird. I need to read this slowly as bible passages goes past me at times. Number 16 says "No!" she said to him. "Sending me away would be a greater wrong than what you have already done to me." But he refused to listen to her. " I wonder if the PJ saw anything in this to ask kate mccann the question if she was planning on having Maddie adopted. This number is under the highlighted grey part of the PJ files...just a thought


jd I hope you don't mind I have just sent you a PM.

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  jd on Wed May 23, 2012 5:28 pm

Hummingbird wrote: jd I hope you don't mind I have just sent you a PM.


Ive not received it Hummingbird...probably still in your outbox. Maybe try again?

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  anil39200 on Wed May 23, 2012 5:39 pm

Hope this assists;

According to a couple of Bible commentaries the passage from Samuel refers to David sleeping with Bathsheba and thus breaking one of God'
s commandments, about not committing adultery, then there are the issues of killing, deception and striking the child, so God is being defied here . So David gets punished and things happen later in his life which show you cannot defy God and get away with it Scot free.


I am just looking up commentaries on the psalm.

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  Hummingbird on Wed May 23, 2012 5:51 pm

anil39200 wrote:Hope this assists;

According to a couple of Bible commentaries the passage from Samuel refers to David sleeping with Bathsheba and thus breaking one of God'
s commandments, about not committing adultery, then there are the issues of killing, deception and striking the child, so God is being defied here . So David gets punished and things happen later in his life which show you cannot defy God and get away with it Scot free.


I am just looking up commentaries on the psalm.


Yes it is a very interesting passage!

I have just been looking at the numbers again, he says in the book 5 and 2 and 3 and 1 now if you are teaching a child to add up how do you do it? 1 and 1 is 2 2 and 2 are 4 etc

Add up the numbers and you get 11 so if this is so what could 11 refer to. Any of the apartments number 11?

Or does he suggest there were actually 11 people on this holiday and not just the Tapas 8 + granny?

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  anil39200 on Wed May 23, 2012 6:01 pm

Psalm 52:1-3.....the commentaries here also slide to God's punishment and that words can be punished as can deeds. Words can be in fact like a 'razor' . Good peoplw who repent can go to heaven bit those who do not will perish and wither. However, it should b3 noted.ny believers that son cannot go unpunished, God sees all.
The old testament has God as being vengeful and OS after all a
'Jealous' God, expecting obedience and keying out punishment, more so than the New Testament accent on forgiveness as put forward by Jesus.

I am unsure if any conclusions can be drawn de use of these passages as connecting to the events we discuss. My own idea which emanated from connecting these passages one at a time to the events in Pdl, led me to a horrendous thought which I would really not like to discuss openly at this juncture, bit if even some small part can help then so be it.

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  anil39200 on Wed May 23, 2012 6:04 pm

Samuel 11?

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  anil39200 on Wed May 23, 2012 6:09 pm

How many people including children were on the holiday incuding the tapas group?

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Re: The meaning of Paulo Cristovao's 5, 2, 3 and 1

Post  Hummingbird on Wed May 23, 2012 6:11 pm

anil39200 wrote:Samuel 11?


Oh my, I think you are right and maybe your mind is working the same as mine and something I am not sure whether to write about or not.

It is a very enlightening if not very worrying verse. sad

As for how many children and adults then over 11 I think it would be 15+

Also if it was 2 additional people then perhaps that would explain why KM reportedly said 'they've' taken her slight slip of the tongue but if she knew 2 people had Madeleine then in her so called oscar winning performance perhaps she forgot and 'they' was just the natural thing to say!


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