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Post  Snifferdog on Fri May 18, 2012 11:50 am

Posted this as it could be a good idea to place all substantiated claims re M. Mccann mystery that includes a reference/link in one section so that anyone who wishes to find a particular one can get to it via an easy search on your site. Not sure if there is such a place here, but would make all the duplications re. these queries less on posts or could be found easily. Don't know if this can be done or how or exists, (in which case please delete this post). Perhaps filed under headings of various resources from where claims can be backed up. eg PJ Files, mcc press statements, clarence m spin etc. Maybe posters can contribute this after they have found said reference? Or perhaps someone knows of a better way that this can be done? Sorry not very computer literate/functional.

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Post  aquila on Fri May 18, 2012 11:58 am

Snifferdog wrote:Posted this as it could be a good idea to place all substantiated claims re M. Mccann mystery that includes a reference/link in one section so that anyone who wishes to find a particular one can get to it via an easy search on your site. Not sure if there is such a place here, but would make all the duplications re. these queries less on posts or could be found easily. Don't know if this can be done or how or exists, (in which case please delete this post). Perhaps filed under headings of various resources from where claims can be backed up. eg PJ Files, mcc press statements, clarence m spin etc. Maybe posters can contribute this after they have found said reference? Or perhaps someone knows of a better way that this can be done? Sorry not very computer literate/functional.


As a newcomer I found it quite difficult to search things - apart from not being particularly computer literate. I sent it in a private message to the moderators as I didn't wish to disrupt the forum or run it either.

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Post  sweetex on Fri May 18, 2012 7:45 pm

I also think this is important. There is a research + library link at the top of the "home page" of this forum, I'm not sure if you want something similar? Sometimes its really hard to search for a line/phrase etc. The magnitude of information on this case is huge.... and I've read last night on the PJ files (the one where they discuss the creche records) that apparently only 17% of the PJ files were released to the public Shocked

Can you imagine how much reading we are still going to do should it ever become public?


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Post  friedtomatoes on Fri May 18, 2012 10:22 pm

Snifferdog wrote:Posted this as it could be a good idea to place all substantiated claims re M. Mccann mystery that includes a reference/link in one section so that anyone who wishes to find a particular one can get to it via an easy search on your site. Not sure if there is such a place here, but would make all the duplications re. these queries less on posts or could be found easily. Don't know if this can be done or how or exists, (in which case please delete this post). Perhaps filed under headings of various resources from where claims can be backed up. eg PJ Files, mcc press statements, clarence m spin etc. Maybe posters can contribute this after they have found said reference? Or perhaps someone knows of a better way that this can be done? Sorry not very computer literate/functional.


what do you mean by substantiated claims? I think its an excellent idea for any thread that people can refer to to find information easily. The Maddie case files in their reference section which is open to non members have quite a few good reference threads with links, its easy to do if you have a clear goal.

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Post  monkey mind on Fri May 18, 2012 11:14 pm

friedtomatoes wrote:
Snifferdog wrote:Posted this as it could be a good idea to place all substantiated claims re M. Mccann mystery that includes a reference/link in one section so that anyone who wishes to find a particular one can get to it via an easy search on your site. Not sure if there is such a place here, but would make all the duplications re. these queries less on posts or could be found easily. Don't know if this can be done or how or exists, (in which case please delete this post). Perhaps filed under headings of various resources from where claims can be backed up. eg PJ Files, mcc press statements, clarence m spin etc. Maybe posters can contribute this after they have found said reference? Or perhaps someone knows of a better way that this can be done? Sorry not very computer literate/functional.


what do you mean by substantiated claims? I think its an excellent idea for any thread that people can refer to to find information easily. The Maddie case files in their reference section which is open to non members have quite a few good reference threads with links, its easy to do if you have a clear goal.


Your words imply that you are just the one with such a clear goal. So tell exactly how you would go about this, and whether All facts would be allowed to sparkle as dew drops on your particular thread. Or would some facts be seen as flies, and devoured?

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Post  friedtomatoes on Sat May 19, 2012 7:59 am

MM you seem to be reading into things too negatively. I simply asked the OP exactly what kind of things they had in mind as I wasnt clear on it. Obviously every fact would be on such a thread and would have nothing to do with my opinion on anything.That OK with you? Obviously not! You are thoroughly mistaken if you think I am here to criticise, derail and other things you have accused me of. Sorting the wheat from the chaffe is my motto, it helps all. Thats why I am in favour of such a thread, was just asking for more detail.

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Post  aquila on Sat May 19, 2012 8:53 am

friedtomatoes wrote:MM you seem to be reading into things too negatively. I simply asked the OP exactly what kind of things they had in mind as I wasnt clear on it. Obviously every fact would be on such a thread and would have nothing to do with my opinion on anything.That OK with you? Obviously not! You are thoroughly mistaken if you think I am here to criticise, derail and other things you have accused me of. Sorting the wheat from the chaffe is my motto, it helps all. Thats why I am in favour of such a thread, was just asking for more detail.


I give in friedtomatoes. I have resisted your ghost stance and now I'm biting at the bait. Well done for you. I would like to know how you have so recently joined the forum and have made SO many posts without links and yet profess to be very well read on the case. What value do you think you are giving to the search for justice for Madeleine? You are flooding the forum without any meat on the bones of what you say. I apologise to the true members of this forum but friedtomatoes I think it would be a good thing if you read more and wrote a little less without substantiating your posts.

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Post  friedtomatoes on Sat May 19, 2012 9:31 am

aquila do ask for a link to anything i posted as fact which you think wasnt. What does me recently joining here have anything to do with how little or much I have read on the case? If you have a problem with me pm me to discuss.
To get back on topic, I will ask the OP to give examples of the kind of thing they are thinking of for this new thread so I can give ideas and contribute to it.

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Post  FH on Sat May 19, 2012 12:13 pm

I think it's an excellent idea. There are facts and there are opinions and sometimes the opinions are stated as fact and I get confused and it muddies the water somewhat.

A recent examply would be a lot of conclusions being drawn on a thread with a lot of references as to MM's medical records being refused. Is this a fact, or just an urban myth? Can we draw conclusions from it. Did the ever PJ ever request her medical records and if so who refused to send them. The British health Service, The British authorities, or the parents? Where is this documented? Was it just in the media (so opinion not fact) or is it in the PJ files (so probably fact)?

Personally I'd love to set up a searchable database, but I don't have the time to read up on all the facts. Although, the rate at which progress is being made on the case - I may well have the time.

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Post  Truthwillout on Sat May 19, 2012 12:33 pm

Sounds like a good idea to me. As I haven't had the time recently to read up on the case, I find it quite hard sometimes to distinguish facts from opinions or myths that have been written in the press ect.

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