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Stuart Lubbock book

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by aliberte2 on 05.03.10 0:46

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@vaguely1 wrote:One must question the thinking processes of a mother who allows active homosexuals into her home...SENTENCE DELIBERATELY CHOPPED IN HALF BY VAGUELY1 - T.B.]

Did you really say this????
You've misquoted me once again, vaguely1, and I have to say that it is a habit of yours, and others on this forum, and it is done deliberately...You have chopped one sentence of mine in half, altering its meaning entirely. Loads of you do it on this forum all the time, and you rarely have the decency to apologise for doing so.

My question after reading that extract from my book would be:

"Did Barrymore reallly do this?"

Really? Mine would be: why Did THis Mother Allow Him in Her House, Since that is the Question you Ask in the Chapter.

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by vaguely1 on 05.03.10 0:49

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them.

or is that a satanic misquote?

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by aliberte2 on 05.03.10 1:01

in fact, Upon Further Reflection, I would Think that, Following the Logic of Certain Members of the Foundation, Barrymore is Without Fault, as the Mother Let Him into the House, Went to a Bar, Let Him Come Home with Her and Her Sons Then, and Was Totally Negligent.

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Post by vaguely1 on 05.03.10 1:05

Yes, it is completely the mothers fault. Barrymore obviously played no part at all in what went on.

I think the book should really be about her. In fact I'm not even sure Barrymore exists. There are so many different descriptions of him in that passage of text it's a farce.

four Michael Barrymores!

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by vaguely1 on 05.03.10 1:06

catfight

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by Cath on 05.03.10 11:47

"Here's an extract from pages 103 to 105 of my book (Chapter Seven)"

Genuine question, Tony. Is what you wrote proven or is it a tabloids version of events?

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Never a murmur

Post by Tony Bennett on 05.03.10 12:17

Inyx wrote:"Here's an extract from pages 103 to 105 of my book (Chapter Seven)"

Genuine question, Tony. Is what you wrote proven or is it a tabloid's version of events?
A great deal of Chapter 7 was based on a well-researched book by Phil Taylor and Paul Nicholas: Barrymore: A Man Possessed. Plus I used other sources.

Phil Taylor was and I think still is Associate Editor of the News of the World. He had to research his book carefully (I had a few meetings with Phil Taylor in 2006 & 2007).

Both he and I had to be careful what we wrote about Barrymore because of the libel laws, but there was never a murmur from Barrymore's lawyers over my book.

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by Snowy on 05.03.10 16:18

[quote="jmbd"]
@vaguely1 wrote:One must question the thinking processes of a mother who allows active homosexuals into her home


Did you really say this????

Don't edit what Tony says:

"One must question the thinking processes of a mother who allows active homosexuals into her home, whilst her 14-year-old daughter is present and after they have already been harassing boys supposed to be in her care."[/quote

The 'boys' were all adults and, as it transpired, perfectly capable of looking out for themselves. The girl was in her own room asleep, and would have been of no interest to Barrymore anyway.

The actions of Barrymore on this occasion seem sad rather than threatening and I think at the time the assembled group probably thought so too, or they would have ejected him sooner. And I don't suppose for a moment that this woman knew anything of what had gone on earlier in the night because they just turned up on her doorstep.

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by vaguely1 on 05.03.10 16:27

No, I think she as also in the club.

I agree, he cuts a rather tragic figure.

I still don't understand what he is being described as an 'active homosexual' as opposed to a drunken sexually aggressive depressive, which is a better description of what he is.

The way it reads would lead one to believe that it was written by someone with rather a homophobic leaning.

Had the man have been sexually harassing her teenage daugtehrs in the same way would he have been described as "An active heterosexual"?

I don't think so.

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by Cath on 05.03.10 16:55

So a book it was and one of the authors is an editor for NOTW.
Thank you Tony for answering.

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Post by vaguely1 on 05.03.10 17:14

another book based on someone else's book.

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by Cath on 05.03.10 17:20

Yes.
And there's never been a murmur (according to Tony) by Barrymore's lawyer about his book. Doesn't make it true though what he's claiming.

How about the other book?

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another vaguely twist

Post by Tony Bennett on 05.03.10 23:34

@vaguely1 wrote:another book based on someone else's book.
What I conceded was that Chapter 7 was substantially based on Barrymore: A Man Possessed.

But there were 23 other chapters

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by vaguely1 on 06.03.10 0:02

Please promise you won't make us read them all.

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by Cath on 06.03.10 0:41

Nah, not without paying first. :)

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by Judge Mental on 19.03.10 13:02

@vaguely1 wrote:another book based on someone else's book.

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I have a number of books which enable me to interpret the books of others and have a greater understanding of the content therein. Shakespeare and the Bible for instance. Sometimes it is interesting to read a more in-depth version of an area we have found to be of interest, or of something which could be open to other interpretations.

Maybe we shouldn't be too hasty to criticise those who would only wish to enlighten us or help to disseminate information. How else would we be likely to learn of the atrocities and injustices that go on around the world?

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Re: Stuart Lubbock book

Post by vaguely1 on 19.03.10 16:21

I hardly think the original book could be described as Shakespeare or the Bible. It wasn't written in inaccessible language, and it was readily available to anyone who wanted to read it. But I'll take your point.

Reading about the wonder, magic and acts of human kindness going on in the world can help redress the balance.

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