Re: Reference Madeline in Irish papers today ..

**candyfloss** on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:39 pm

Have a look at her twitter page and tweets omg

http://twitter.com/#!/eilisohanlon

And here is a good reply to her.........

Chris Stedman‏@ChrisRStedmanReply

@eilisohanlon @RothleyPillow As a 'journalist', shouldn't you be analysing the data, not joining in sided arguments on Twitter? #McCann

tigger on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:48 pm

Eilis O'Hanlon's article: I've snipped it heavily, just selected a few interesting paragraphs.

quote:

- not only has a year-long Metropolitan Police investigation come down firmly on the theory that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger, it also claims to have good reason to believe she is still alive, even releasing an artist's digital impression of how she might look today, as she approaches her ninth birthday.
still alive - sure that she was abducted by a stranger

Which is incredible, when you think about it. Five years on and the most thorough investigation of the evidence -- involving, in Det Chief Inspector Redwood's words, "turning every single piece of paper over and interpreting and analysing what is contained within them" -- has concluded that all those pulp fiction scenarios involving an unstable mother killing her own child and a controlling father disposing of the body, with both then colluding in an incredibly effective manipulation of an entire police force and the world media, were nothing but the poisonous fantasies which Madeleine's parents always said they were.
Actually, a large number of posters think it may have been an accident - the unstable mother idea isn't that popular

In truth, it seems highly unlikely that Madeleine will ever be found alive, regardless of last week's optimistic headlines. Most children abducted by strangers are killed within hours of being taken. There's also the fact that sniffer dogs detected the scent of death in the McCanns' holiday apartment, strongly suggesting that Madeleine may have died that very first night. Sniffer dogs are not 100 per cent reliable; the evidence of their noses only an indicator which needs to be confirmed by other means. But the bathetic title of last week's Panorama -- Madeleine: The Last Hope? -- said it all.
Errm Strongly suggesting she might have died that first night - so that makes it the 29th april? could you enlighten us?

The only consolation for Madeleine's parents is that the growth of the internet has been so swift during the lifetime of their ordeal that the cyber bullies now have so many other victims to pick on that they must necessarily have less energy left over to hammer Kate and Gerry.
Sorry, can't think of anyone more interesting to discuss than the McCanns, it's the best puzzle ever. unquote

I picked out a number of paragraphs - here is the contradiction again that she's alive and almost certainly dead. [b]But on that very first night? Does the lady know something we don't?[/b]

**candyfloss** on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:50 pm

Dr David Payne ‏@DodgyDrPayne

@eilisohanlon perhaps you could venture your opinion on the Gaspar statements? #mccann

Eilis O'Hanlon‏@eilisohanlon

@DodgyDrPayne Unsavoury, but not evidence of murder and/or cover up #McCann

friedtomatoes on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:51 pm

well spotted tigger, what on earth made her say madeleine died that firstnight!!!!

**candyfloss** on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:55 pm

@tigger, she means the first night of being taken, that very first night. Not earlier in the holiday. That is what it means I think. As Pat Brown said the other day most abductions end with the victim being killed within hours of being taken.

There's also the fact that sniffer dogs detected the scent of death in the McCanns' holiday apartment, strongly suggesting that Madeleine may have died that very first night

tigger on Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:58 pm

friedtomatoes wrote:well spotted tigger, what on earth made her say madeleine died that firstnight!!!!

She's not a very good writer. It seems to me that she's had instructions to blast the internet trolls. It sounds very much like a TM instruction. See Forensic Linguistics, where Kate tells Lorraine that there are people on the internet whose job it is to attack them and they will probably move on to other vulnerable families...
Sounds too familiar to me altogether - same message from this O'Hanlon, this moving on to other families is a most peculiar idea.

Well, so far Ms. O'Hanlon has been quite helpful. She almost believes the dogs and is pretty sure Maddie is dead and she even seems to know exactly when. Which is what we've been trying to find out for quite some time.

friedtomatoes on Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:04 pm

tigger wrote:
friedtomatoes wrote:well spotted tigger, what on earth made her say madeleine died that firstnight!!!!

She's not a very good writer. It seems to me that she's had instructions to blast the internet trolls. It sounds very much like a TM instruction. See Forensic Linguistics, where Kate tells Lorraine that there are people on the internet whose job it is to attack them and they will probably move on to other vulnerable families...
Sounds too familiar to me altogether - same message from this O'Hanlon, this moving on to other families is a most peculiar idea.

Well, so far Ms. O'Hanlon has been quite helpful. She almost believes the dogs and is pretty sure Maddie is dead and she even seems to know exactly when. Which is what we've been trying to find out for quite some time.

LOL!

friedtomatoes on Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:09 pm

Didnt know where to post this but is an example of what arch pro mccanns post as evidence of their innocence

Its complete claptrap

http://www.people.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2007/08/19/maddie-cops-totally-clueless-102039-19658501/

tigger on Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:13 pm

candyfloss wrote:@tigger, she means the first night of being taken, that very first night. Not earlier in the holiday. That is what it means I think. As Pat Brown said the other day most abductions end with the victim being killed within hours of being taken.

There's also the fact that sniffer dogs detected the scent of death in the McCanns' holiday apartment, strongly suggesting that Madeleine may have died that very first night

It's very badly worded isn't it? That same night would have been better. And this argument overlooks the fact that there's no point for an abductor to take a dead child with him. Apart from the fact that a measure of time is needed for the cadaver odour to develop.
So, in that case you have an abductor who sits around for about an hour or so - then carries a dead child very awkwardly through the town.

ShuBob on Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:59 pm

tigger wrote:
friedtomatoes wrote:well spotted tigger, what on earth made her say madeleine died that firstnight!!!!

She's not a very good writer. It seems to me that she's had instructions to blast the internet trolls. It sounds very much like a TM instruction. See Forensic Linguistics, where Kate tells Lorraine that there are people on the internet whose job it is to attack them and they will probably move on to other vulnerable families...
Sounds too familiar to me altogether - same message from this O'Hanlon, this moving on to other families is a most peculiar idea.

Well, so far Ms. O'Hanlon has been quite helpful. She almost believes the dogs and is pretty sure Maddie is dead and she even seems to know exactly when. Which is what we've been trying to find out for quite some time.

I actually think she's on a sort of fishing expedition instigated by herself. She may be writing another article and is looking for material to justify some of her points. That's how it reads to me anyway given what she's written previously about the case. IMO she cannot be accused of being a supporter of the couple.