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This will be the Start of Good Things for Madeleine - Kate McCann

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Re: This will be the Start of Good Things for Madeleine - Kate McCann

Post by hedge on 23.02.10 13:06

Is it even a blue bag, the McCanns did have another bag, looked like a changing bag that was in the main room of the apartment in some photos.

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Post by bunny on 23.02.10 13:59

Ah isnt that the flight bag he used on the plane?

Not missing as far as I am aware as its not mentioned in the files and neither is it specifically a tennis bag.

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Post by SashaM on 23.02.10 14:19

Lol...think I'm best leaving this thread now. Trying to stay neutral can be difficult sometimes thumbsup ppcorn (no emoticon waving a white flag otherwise I'd use it)

But if anyone works out who the man in the Sky News video is (posted on previous page), please let me know :D

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Post by hedge on 23.02.10 14:30

@SashaM wrote:Lol...think I'm best leaving this thread now. Trying to stay neutral can be difficult sometimes thumbsup ppcorn (no emoticon waving a white flag otherwise I'd use it)

But if anyone works out who the man in the Sky News video is (posted on previous page), please let me know :D

Former Detective Tony Rogers.

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Post by hedge on 23.02.10 14:34

he does appear to be talking generally though, if there was a bag of the size that a child could be carried in then clearly this would be of interest to an investigating officer, he doesn't appear to be confirming that there is one.

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Post by hedge on 23.02.10 14:38

Just watching Brunts review of the case it's amazing even then how many errors he makes, how many false assertions. But I guess it was December 2007 it was all un-named sources of rumours then, stuff he'd been told and believed. The one that stuck out was him saying that jane tanner wasn't even sure it was a child she saw in the mans arms, it's almost unforgivable for Brunt to have made such an error, even before the files were made available it was clear that the only person referring to bundles was the police. How much damage did Brunt alone to do her credibility?

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Post by bunny on 23.02.10 14:42

Tony Rogers Sasha thumbsup

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Post by bunny on 23.02.10 14:44

Hedge, just did the same. The people they intereviewed seem to have heard all the rumours that were leaked out of the PJ offices. Yet the files turn up and theres nothing in them to back them up.

It amazes me the secrecy....its only relevant if it helps to find Madeleine but hey if its unfounded rumour leaked by the PJ offices....then thats fine...its okay to leak that because it tarnishes the mccanns :twisted:

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Post by hedge on 23.02.10 14:49

It could be argued that judicial secrecy can be a good thing but not if it's flouted so completedly by those who are meant to uphold it and not if victims of smears can't defend themselves and ensure that the focus is on a still missing child for fear of falling foul of the laws. Crazy. Another one of those moments in those case where you throw your hands in the air and say you couldn't make it up.

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Post by bellatrix on 23.02.10 14:55

@bunny wrote:Tony Rogers Sasha thumbsup

That almost sounds rude lol :oops: laugh

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Post by SashaM on 23.02.10 16:44

@hedge wrote:Former Detective Tony Rogers.
@bunny wrote:Tony Rogers Sasha thumbsup

Thank you Hedge and Bunny :D

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Post by bunny on 23.02.10 16:48

@bellatrix wrote:
@bunny wrote:Tony Rogers Sasha thumbsup

That almost sounds rude lol :oops: laugh
It's taken me hours to work out why that sounds rude :ambersuz:

poor sascha :ambersuz:

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Post by Cath on 23.02.10 17:09

They did find a black bag though. In a ravine.
And they've found a pink blanket.

I could post the links, but this time I challenge you to find them yourselves.

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Post by hedge on 23.02.10 17:28

Inyx wrote:They did find a black bag though. In a ravine.
And they've found a pink blanket.

I could post the links, but this time I challenge you to find them yourselves.

neither of those were forum/media myths though were they?

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Post by Cath on 23.02.10 17:45

@hedge wrote:
Inyx wrote:They did find a black bag though. In a ravine.
And they've found a pink blanket.

I could post the links, but this time I challenge you to find them yourselves.

neither of those were forum/media myths though were they?

Yes they were, because they aren't what people think/thought they were.
Sorry if I sound cryptic, can't explain myself any better as this :
There's no missing pink blanket. There's no missing blue bag.

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Post by hedge on 23.02.10 17:48

Inyx wrote:
@hedge wrote:
Inyx wrote:They did find a black bag though. In a ravine.
And they've found a pink blanket.

I could post the links, but this time I challenge you to find them yourselves.

neither of those were forum/media myths though were they?

Yes they were, because they aren't what people think/thought they were.
Sorry if I sound cryptic, can't explain myself any better as this :
There's no missing pink blanket. There's no missing blue bag.

I see what you mean now, sorry was being dim.

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Post by bellatrix on 23.02.10 19:14

@bunny wrote:
@bellatrix wrote:
@bunny wrote:Tony Rogers Sasha thumbsup

That almost sounds rude lol :oops: laugh
It's taken me hours to work out why that sounds rude :ambersuz:

poor sascha :ambersuz:


LOL just my mind in the sewer!!!!!!!!

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Post by Cath on 24.02.10 10:23

So nobody's found the links to the black bag or pink blanket then?
Or perhaps nobody went looking for it?
Where did Krugel say he's seen a pink blanket, that according to him wasn't collected by the Police?

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Re: This will be the Start of Good Things for Madeleine - Kate McCann

Post by Cath on 24.02.10 18:24

thumbsup


Re Krugel's pink (and white) blanket

Krugel search map?

I don't think it's Krugel's though. This one was indicated by writing in a Dutch newspaper.
And it isn't Madeleine's either. Her's was still on the bed when she's disappeared. I do wonder why GA suddenly found it necessary to make a whole lot of fuss about it.

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Re: This will be the Start of Good Things for Madeleine - Kate McCann

Post by hedge on 24.02.10 18:55

Inyx wrote:thumbsup


Re Krugel's pink (and white) blanket

Krugel search map?

I don't think it's Krugel's though. This one was indicated by writing in a Dutch newspaper.
And it isn't Madeleine's either. Her's was still on the bed when she's disappeared. I do wonder why GA suddenly found it necessary to make a whole lot of fuss about it.

I thought he got a bad translation from the Oprah show and in his desperation he tried to spin it as relevant.

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Re: This will be the Start of Good Things for Madeleine - Kate McCann

Post by marigold on 25.02.10 13:01

@hedge wrote:
Inyx wrote:thumbsup


Re Krugel's pink (and white) blanket

Krugel search map?

I don't think it's Krugel's though. This one was indicated by writing in a Dutch newspaper.
And it isn't Madeleine's either. Her's was still on the bed when she's disappeared. I do wonder why GA suddenly found it necessary to make a whole lot of fuss about it.

I thought he got a bad translation from the Oprah show and in his desperation he tried to spin it as relevant.
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Who knows what is or isn't relevant. I thought the fuss about the pink blanket was due to it being pictured on her bed at one point and then disappearing.

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Re: This will be the Start of Good Things for Madeleine - Kate McCann

Post by marigold on 25.02.10 13:04

Hedge your compilation of all the rumours that you say are wrong. Please explain how you know this and with links.

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Post by hedge on 25.02.10 13:08

No it came from Kates words 'I hope that whoever has her gives her her blanket, I hope that whoever has her is keeping her warm' presumeably working on the assumption that if she is alive she will have a blanket, if she is cold that whoever has her gives her a blanket. A heartbreaking reminder of just how horrific it must be to be a mother who is away from her child and does not know where she is.

In typical calpol-esque misunderstandings Amaral appears to have leapt on the idea that Madeleine had, has and will only ever have the one blanket she had at age 3.

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Re: This will be the Start of Good Things for Madeleine - Kate McCann

Post by hedge on 25.02.10 13:09

@marigold wrote:Hedge your compilation of all the rumours that you say are wrong. Please explain how you know this and with links.

I have not compiled any such list.

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