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Post  PeterMac on Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:03 pm

But how fascinating that they never tried to get the money back.
By They, I mean of course the Trustees who owe a very onerous legal duty of care towards the funds under their control.
Why didn't they initiate action on behalf of the "Fund" ?
There are The "Fund's" solicitors and Auditors who must have been standing by to pull the relevant documents out of the filing cabinet and fill in the names,
but....
Nothing.
Silence.

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Post  tigger on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:55 pm

I've always had the feeling that Metodo3 did the jobs they were paid to do. Anything else would be in the boxes SY took away.

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Post  PeterMac on Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:28 pm

Indeed. Did Halligen also do the job he was asked, and paid, to do ?
And is Edgar doing the same ?
Who paid Antonio Jimenez Raso to invent and pay for all the """"sightings""" in Morocco ?
M3 , or TM.
He didn't do this off his own bat. He had to be instructed.
He worked from Barcelona, as far from Morocco as it is possible to get in Spain.
(And also, about as far as it is possible to get from Portugal, but that is another entirely different story. The estimate for travelling costs alone would have been astronomical. Who did the 'due diligence' on this lot ?)

None of it makes sense. (Sorry, Carter-Ruck, it does make sense, but not in the world you inhabit, lined with your thirty thousand pieces of silver.)

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Post  Gillyspot on Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:47 pm

Good Post Petermac

Also remember not forgetting the wonderful dormant appearing company Alphaig Ltd that didn't achieve anything with Arthur Cowley & Dave Edgar.

(Carter Ruck this is not just my opinion this is fact). CR you must agree the McCanns have been dreadfully unlucky in their choice of Private Investigators (despite apparently someone going through "due dilligence" before appointing them.

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Post  pauline on Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:18 pm

I would love to know how Kate defines 'due diligence.'

She uses this phrase in the truthful book but I do not think her understanding of the phrase is the same as the posters here.

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Post  aiyoyo on Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:29 am

ShuBob wrote:PeterMac wrote:

"I suspect because he is already on record as saying how wonderful they were...."

That hasn't stopped him in the past. If you remember, when news of Halligen having allegedly swindled them of between £300-500k emerged, Clarence repeatedly denied the claim. That suddenly changed following his arrest with Clarence saying
"We are glad this man was tracked down. It
is distressing someone would seek to make money out of Madeleine."



http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2746506/Maddie-rat-Kevin-Halligen-tried-to-sue-FindMadeleine-fund-for-150k.html


So he has done it all and nothing he says now will be new.

Effectively he's stuck between iceberg and a very hard place. Whoever is captain of their ship is on 24 hours watch alert now.

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Post  Gillyspot on Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:37 am

pauline wrote:I would love to know how Kate defines 'due diligence.'

She uses this phrase in the truthful book but I do not think her understanding of the phrase is the same as the posters here.


The McCanns or actually more likely their "financial backer" will only be able to sue Halligen if the contract initially made between them is detailed enough to prove that he hasn't carried out the work that they asked for (or not to an acceptable standard). Although this isn't part of due diligence (that allegedly being carried out before employing Halligen) it is normal practice where large and expensive contracts are taken out to make sure the work that is required is clearly detailed in a contract to avoid misunderstandings (and litigation).

There wouldn't have been a contract between the McCanns & Halligen if they weren't paying him so they wouldn't have been able to sue.

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Post  russiandoll on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:01 am

Hope there is more to this than discrediting leads, would be surprised if SY are not going through the Spanish stuff with a fne-tooth comb, to discover the motivation for their employment and what instructions they were following for payment. They might well have produced results for the McCanns, but as stated in the quoted article, nothing regarding progressing a search.
Follow the money.........the evidence for a massive fraud is to be discovered here imo.

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Post  aiyoyo on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:48 am

pauline wrote:I would love to know how Kate defines 'due diligence.'

She uses this phrase in the truthful book but I do not think her understanding of the phrase is the same as the posters here.


I am not sure you are looking at it from the right angle pauline.
Have no doubt kate knows all about due diligence.
It was exactly the "due diligence" they wanted that suits their purpose to a T.
They got exactly the "sort" of detectives they wanted exactly from due diligence.
No decent detectives would want to be implicated in their dodgy deal.

In case CR is watching. If their detective hire is not dodgy I don't know what is.
Here we are not talking one set of bad detective agency or detectives, we are talking 4 consecutive sets in a row. Is that down to bad luck? I should hardly think so after all the mccanns had been VERY lucky so far with every thing else.
In fact they had been also lucky with the detectives because those were exactly the sort the mccanns were after.

What does their choice of detective tell people about their search? Serious?
Did the mccanns follow up on the detectives work?
Did they ask for leads, did they ask whether leads were follow up?
Did they have meetings with detectives to get updated?
Did they ensure that people's money given to them for the search was not wasted on incompetent detectives delivering zilch.
I would think that is their obligation to the donors, and more importantly their OBLIGATION TO Madeleine at the very least, if they want people to believe she's alive and not come to any harm.

On the "not come to any harm" as said by Gerry the mind boggles because if she was taken she was already harmed, unless he did not consider "abducted by paedophile" or "taken" as having come to harm. It's one of those gerry's verbal diarrhea moments.

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Post  russiandoll on Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:13 am

aiyoyo I could not agree more.

FOLLOW THE MONEY........

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