Why didn't you come last night...?

Oh, ok. So let's for one minute disregard the fact that 'professional' paedophile gangs DO NOT target holiday camps.
So, our abductors, who had been watching patiently for months, faithfully waiting for that 'perfect' child with a suitably neglectful family (amazing they had to wait months - didn't the McCanns state this is normal behaviour for Brits?) then went on to watch some more!
They had SUNDAY, then MONDAY, TUESDAY andWEDNESDAY to strike but no - we are expected to believe they not only watch the neglectful family for four days, they then choose THURSDAY. The night the T9 stepped up patrol, so much so they were crossing each other on the way back. They chose THAT night?
FGS - wake UP and smell the Kenco Merrymo, your 'arguments' are getting more and more ridiculous by the day...

anil39200 wrote:Hiding in a poorly lit mcalley, flooded with Orange light, wearing pink pyjamas, somewhere in rural mcleicestershire, eagerly awaiting the revised book of "truth" for more of that evidence .Avidly taking phone instructions from mctowers and then deleting them and eating the mcphone before returning to taunt us again with blood pressure raising diatribes of mcnothingness , because the told her so, so. It must be true. This post will self destruct in 5 mcseconds, jrmmie the Windows and leave them up, mcwhoosh mcclunk its gone. So,sadly has my Mind with listening to the disneyesque apologists such as merrymo. It had to happen, back on the need I guess. Thanks Doc, oh no its a McDoc, Help me pleeeeease.

Prozac seems to be the only remedy for you anil, plus a long course of psychotherapy to help you with your mcCCC aversion.

Oh no, not the meds again, please mcdoc, . Tigger, been there,done that. And that was before joining this forum. A dark quiet room awaits me. But not 70m as the liver bird lies from a tapas bar. Incidentally. It's always puzzled me. Why would one have a tapas bar in ones garden?
No hope, bring on t he tablets.

anil39200 wrote:Oh no, not the meds again, please mcdoc, . Tigger, been there,done that. And that was before joining this forum. A dark quiet room awaits me. But not 70m as the liver bird lies from a tapas bar. Incidentally. It's always puzzled me. Why would one have a tapas bar in ones garden?
No hope, bring on t he tablets.

Please, may I have some too? Could be too late for me, but you never know...

Don't forget that the gang were taking notes. Kate told us so herself.
And she knew. She "knew" - in italics !, so it must be true.

aiyoyo wrote:

Merrymo wrote
An abduction from this particular apartment may have been planned for months. I don't think it is beyond the wit of seasoned criminals to get hold of an apartment key maybe even months beforehand in readiness. .. It's not like a private house key. There is probably more than one key, used by various people going in and out - cleaners, maintenance people etc. Apartment keys do get lost and mislaid - and could be stolen or 'borrowed' and copied. Unless it can be proved that it is impossible for an apartment key go missing at this complex then it has to remain a viable possibility IMO.

According to previous tenants, the cleaners had a key, which opened the door even when their own key was left in the locked door on the inside.

Bloody hell I've heard it all now.

So these seasonal criminals with wit and ingenuity to get hold of key got only key to 5A? And they laid waiting where ?
No one has reported suspicious loiterers. Dont tell me they were hiding in the bush in front 5A for months and no one noticed them (must be ghostly invisible) until some moroons bring children to holiday and leave them alone?
And dont tell me they were prepared to wait indefinitely until the right type of child is brought to 5A that they prepared the key in advance and laid waiting?

And you were saying? errr these are a bunch of seasonal criminals with wit who copied every key in the resort but laid in wait only for occupants of 5A. OH......hmmm.only key to 5A? Oh so the cleaners were only careless with 5A key? What is it ? Have you made up your mind merrymole?

And, err.......you want us to believe these criminals have WIT and they are SEASONAL! Bloody hell be faster to snatch one anyhow from a busy place even if you're a complete dipstick with brain size of an eyelash.

Come on then...any more bright idea how to abduct a child to order from your mud brain? Sorry no disrespect intended. Do us something clever. We all want to know how exactly she was abducted.

Maybe you should look up the words SEASONED and WIT.

Seasoned - To render competent through trial and experience

Wit - practical intelligence


If you think that criminals cannot possibly have the above attributes - then please explain how the phrase 'Criminal Mastermind' came into being? ... I didn't mention the word SEASONAL at all - which any dipstick knows has a completely different meaning. Maybe you had an eyelash in your eye when you were misreading my post.

BTW 6 sightings of 'Suspicious loiterers' were reported by 4 independent witnesses who noticed them during the few days before the abduction - some appeared to be surveilling Apartment 5a.

Will get back to the rest of your post tomorrow if poss.

Night night.

Still waiting for answers to my post please Merrymo.

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aiyoyo wrote:
Merrymo wrote
An abduction from this particular apartment may have been planned for months. I don't think it is beyond the wit of seasoned criminals to get hold of an apartment key maybe even months beforehand in readiness. .. It's not like a private house key. There is probably more than one key, used by various people going in and out - cleaners, maintenance people etc. Apartment keys do get lost and mislaid - and could be stolen or 'borrowed' and copied. Unless it can be proved that it is impossible for an apartment key go missing at this complex then it has to remain a viable possibility IMO.

According to previous tenants, the cleaners had a key, which opened the door even when their own key was left in the locked door on the inside.


Bloody hell I've heard it all now.

So these seasonal criminals with wit and ingenuity to get hold of key got only key to 5A? And they laid waiting where ?
No one has reported suspicious loiterers. Dont tell me they were hiding in the bush in front 5A for months and no one noticed them (must be ghostly invisible) until some moroons bring children to holiday and leave them alone?
And dont tell me they were prepared to wait indefinitely until the right type of child is brought to 5A that they prepared the key in advance and laid waiting?

And you were saying? errr these are a bunch of seasonal criminals with wit who copied every key in the resort but laid in wait only for occupants of 5A. OH......hmmm.only key to 5A? Oh so the cleaners were only careless with 5A key? What is it ? Have you made up your mind merrymole?

And, err.......you want us to believe these criminals have WIT and they are SEASONAL! Bloody hell be faster to snatch one anyhow from a busy place even if you're a complete dipstick with brain size of an eyelash.

Come on then...any more bright idea how to abduct a child to order from your mud brain? Sorry no disrespect intended. Do us something clever. We all want to know how exactly she was abducted.




Maybe you should look up the words SEASONED and WIT.

Seasoned - To render competent through trial and experience

Wit - practical intelligence


If you think that criminals cannot possibly have the above attributes - then please explain how the phrase 'Criminal Mastermind' came into being? ... I didn't mention the word SEASONAL at all - which any dipstick knows has a completely different meaning. Maybe you had an eyelash in your eye when you were misreading my post.

BTW 6 sightings of 'Suspicious loiterers' were reported by 4 independent witnesses who noticed them during the few days before the abduction - some appeared to be surveilling Apartment 5a.

Will get back to the rest of your post tomorrow if poss.

Night night.


Oh dear, there you go again. Proving my point that you have mud for brain.

I think you should give us the definition of WIT and SEASONED applying this to criminal mastermind as you know it.

Surely you don't want us to believe that your gang of seasoned criminal with practical intelligence can end up doing a job in such a brain dead manner. Not characteristics of criminal mastermind as far as others know it.

Surely we all know criminals can have wit and be seasoned. Just look the who the Police suspect were involved in Maddie's death. You cant say the mccanns dont have wit. As for seasoned, from all accounts it appears they might have been seasoned at neglecting her.

My point is : is that the best your gang of seasoned criminals with wit [/u] can do?

Got hold of ONLY key of 5A and laid in wait for months on end for some moroons to bring the right child then they were going leave unattended. If they had the key why didn't they exit the same way? Out of view way as far as we know. Why open the window? Why when their partners in crime (gang remember) are keeping watch did one of them dipsticks dangle Maddie across his arm and stroll leisurely in uncovered area stepping out right at the moment Janey was there?

OH btw the mccanns were not the only ones leaving their children alone on the 3/5?
Oh are we supposed to believe your [u]wit and seasoned criminals have so much wit and so seasoned that when there are so many apts they managed only to nick key to 5A knowing someone right is going to check into 5A that they laid in wait indefinitely until that happens. And here we're are talking seasoned and clever criminal mastermind? Come on! next you will have us believe your gang of seasoned and not seasonal (my mistake)criminals with wit were particularly waiting for the Madeleine, and only Madeleine will do, not any blond child of that age group will do? You will have us believe they were especially waiting for the mccanns at the rate you dish out mud from mud brain.

Come on.....think about it...if they have wit would they stupidly hang around to be spotted? If they are so seasoned they would have made sure they are not spotted if you think about it or they will never get the chance to become "seasoned" so to speak.
If they have practical intelligence why restrict themselves to stealing only 5A key? Why chose thursday, the worst day to do it? You are not going to tell us they have a suicidal wish are you - your gang of seasoned criminals?

If they are seasoned surely they know better ways and method, and know where to find blond little girls. Don't forget your seasoned criminal with wit had to hide from Gerry while he sing a song if you believe Gerry.
That still doesnt explain why they chose Thursday and why 5A?

I notice you tend to avoid all the questions you cannot answer. We are all waiting for you to tell us exactly how Maddie was abducted. Maybe you can tell us how your gang of clever seasoned criminals could have got from where they laid waiting to snatch her in the 2-3 minutes time span and how one ended up dangling her from his outstretched strolling up the path in full view of Janey?
While you are at it maybe you could tell us why didn't they exit with their key? Why did they open the window if they had the key? How did he use his key when he'd Maddie stretched across both arms? Did he have to place her down first?

Don't tell me your gang of seasoned criminals with wit want the police to come after him /them knowing very well if they'd been FOCUSED ON WATCHING 5A that literally within a few minutes another adult is going to come along for the check to discover the open window and child gone and this joker stroll leisurely on FOOT! carrying the child in a manner he cannot make a run for it! Why not also tell us how the gang know where Madeleine bed was just from laying in wait?

He wasn't using gloves so why wasn't any trace of evidence left behind ..doorknob fingerprints for example - remember he used the key?

Come on, we are waiting for your entertaining answers...maybe you get an adrenaline high from clowning.


p.s. even an idiot for criminal would know better way of snatching a child, and from a dark room in a locked holiday apt constantly checked is not an idiot-proof way.

Reminds me a bit of the Smiths' sighting - on another forum one poster said it couldn't have been Gerry because how would Gerry have known the exact time the Smiths would be in that street?

Would "seasoned" abductors looking for a child for a family (therefore not paedophiles) assuming as you say merrymo that they had been watching the family:

a) pick the only child with a clear defect (Madeleine's eye) as claimed by her parents.

b) Not arrive in a car and park right by the building so as to make a getaway rather than walk right across the front of the road where Gerry was talking to Jez Wilkins. If you believe Gerry's thesis in knowing that the abductor was in the children's room when he checked) would they be so unseasoned as to walk across the road where they would surely know that Gerry would still be there and probably others of T9 as they had apparently stepped up their checks.

Merrymo you appear to prefer to suspect the cleaners (or any other employee) from Ocean Club rather than the usual prime suspects in any missing child case - the parents! Stranger abduction is very rare and for there to be no evidence of an abduction is even rarer.