Why didn't you come last night...?

The following, taken from Kate's Aunt Janet's statement, has always disturbed me. It appears to me that she is suggesting that Madeleine made the whole thing up! In my experience with small children, a child of that age does not lie. Okay, they may say "no, it wasn't me" when you discover the sweetie jar empty and the child has chocolate all around their face, but make up a story about her brother crying the night before and nobody came? A child of her age wouldn't do that. And why would she if it wasn't true?

"I feel a great injustice in relation to Kate and Gerry—to the way people judged them. They checked on their children constantly; the children always came first so that their routine was not disturbed. Kate and Gerry believed that it was safe. Relative to the allegation that Madeleine made regarding Sean’s crying, I do not have any idea what possessed Madeleine to make such an affirmation and also would state that Madeleine had a very fertile imagination."

Genbug wrote:The following, taken from Kate's Aunt Janet's statement, has always disturbed me. It appears to me that she is suggesting that Madeleine made the whole thing up! In my experience with small children, a child of that age does not lie. Okay, they may say "no, it wasn't me" when you discover the sweetie jar empty and the child has chocolate all around their face, but make up a story about her brother crying the night before and nobody came? A child of her age wouldn't do that. And why would she if it wasn't true?

"I feel a great injustice in relation to Kate and Gerry—to the way people judged them. They checked on their children constantly; the children always came first so that their routine was not disturbed. Kate and Gerry believed that it was safe. Relative to the allegation that Madeleine made regarding Sean’s crying, I do not have any idea what possessed Madeleine to make such an affirmation and also would state that Madeleine had a very fertile imagination."

V. Interesting! Especially in view of the fact that seeing the McCanns discuss this so enthusiastically on video makes me reach for the sickbag.
Gerry says in one: 'She was very articulate' - all the same they ignored it - easy since imo it didn't happen. The only two conversations reported are between the parents and Maddie on the 3rd. Only on that day. One in the morning and one in the evening - she talked, so she must have been alive.

tigger wrote:

Genbug wrote:The following, taken from Kate's Aunt Janet's statement, has always disturbed me. It appears to me that she is suggesting that Madeleine made the whole thing up! In my experience with small children, a child of that age does not lie. Okay, they may say "no, it wasn't me" when you discover the sweetie jar empty and the child has chocolate all around their face, but make up a story about her brother crying the night before and nobody came? A child of her age wouldn't do that. And why would she if it wasn't true?

"I feel a great injustice in relation to Kate and Gerry—to the way people judged them. They checked on their children constantly; the children always came first so that their routine was not disturbed. Kate and Gerry believed that it was safe. Relative to the allegation that Madeleine made regarding Sean’s crying, I do not have any idea what possessed Madeleine to make such an affirmation and also would state that Madeleine had a very fertile imagination."

V. Interesting! Especially in view of the fact that seeing the McCanns discuss this so enthusiastically on video makes me reach for the sickbag.
Gerry says in one: 'She was very articulate' - all the same they ignored it - easy since imo it didn't happen. The only two conversations reported are between the parents and Maddie on the 3rd. Only on that day. One in the morning and one in the evening - she talked, so she must have been alive.

Bingo, tigger! It.Did.Not.Happen... considering the bewk is called 'Madeleine' and she was supposedly so articulate, she didn't say a lot on the holiday, did she? In fact, who was Madeleine? She reads like a ghost from another era, two-dimensional, no substance.
Incidentally, no lie I have tried EIGHT TIMES to reply to Merrymo's last post, is forumotion trying to tell me something? Eg "rainbow-fairy, you are wasting your time..."
After all, this poster uses Kate's bewk as 'evidence', disregarding all that has gone before... Does anyone have a link to the 'Kate admits she NEVER physically searched for Madeleine' youtube? IIRC, Kate clearly stated that she NEVER physically searched for Madeleine, not just that night but EVER'. Merrymo has us believe that they DID search the following morning - more backfitting after the taxi driver spoke out about seeing a couple out and about who upon seeing his lights jumped into an alleyway. I firmly believe this WAS Gerry and Kate, not searching for a live Maddie though - more checking things hadn't been found?

tigger wrote:

Genbug wrote:The following, taken from Kate's Aunt Janet's statement, has always disturbed me. It appears to me that she is suggesting that Madeleine made the whole thing up! In my experience with small children, a child of that age does not lie. Okay, they may say "no, it wasn't me" when you discover the sweetie jar empty and the child has chocolate all around their face, but make up a story about her brother crying the night before and nobody came? A child of her age wouldn't do that. And why would she if it wasn't true?

"I feel a great injustice in relation to Kate and Gerry—to the way people judged them. They checked on their children constantly; the children always came first so that their routine was not disturbed. Kate and Gerry believed that it was safe. Relative to the allegation that Madeleine made regarding Sean’s crying, I do not have any idea what possessed Madeleine to make such an affirmation and also would state that Madeleine had a very fertile imagination."

V. Interesting! Especially in view of the fact that seeing the McCanns discuss this so enthusiastically on video makes me reach for the sickbag.
Gerry says in one: 'She was very articulate' - all the same they ignored it - easy since imo it didn't happen. The only two conversations reported are between the parents and Maddie on the 3rd. Only on that day. One in the morning and one in the evening - she talked, so she must have been alive.

It appears to me that Aunt Janet is protecting Kate and Gerry with that statement and putting the blame on Madeleine! They talk about her as if she were an eight year old rather than a three year old. I have a grandaughter that is almost the age that Madeleine was when she disappeared. She is clearly way behind Madeleine in intellect and wordly ways! In my opinion, it either DID happen or it didn't and Kate is making it up. I don't believe for one minute that Madeleine made it up as Janet is suggesting.

Rainbow-Fairy: here's a link to the Queen of Waffle's interview about not searching for Madeleine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YWCVSjIJk8

for your valiant efforts to communicate with the troll fraternity without - not yet anyway!

Jean wrote:Rainbow-Fairy: here's a link to the Queen of Waffle's interview about not searching for Madeleine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YWCVSjIJk8

for your valiant efforts to communicate with the troll fraternity without - not yet anyway!

Thanks Jean, that'll be the one! The brick wall is tempting I must admit. Talking to them resembles talking to a brick wall that's for sure...

Genbug wrote:

tigger wrote:

Genbug wrote:The following, taken from Kate's Aunt Janet's statement, has always disturbed me. It appears to me that she is suggesting that Madeleine made the whole thing up! In my experience with small children, a child of that age does not lie. Okay, they may say "no, it wasn't me" when you discover the sweetie jar empty and the child has chocolate all around their face, but make up a story about her brother crying the night before and nobody came? A child of her age wouldn't do that. And why would she if it wasn't true?

"I feel a great injustice in relation to Kate and Gerry—to the way people judged them. They checked on their children constantly; the children always came first so that their routine was not disturbed. Kate and Gerry believed that it was safe. Relative to the allegation that Madeleine made regarding Sean’s crying, I do not have any idea what possessed Madeleine to make such an affirmation and also would state that Madeleine had a very fertile imagination."

V. Interesting! Especially in view of the fact that seeing the McCanns discuss this so enthusiastically on video makes me reach for the sickbag.
Gerry says in one: 'She was very articulate' - all the same they ignored it - easy since imo it didn't happen. The only two conversations reported are between the parents and Maddie on the 3rd. Only on that day. One in the morning and one in the evening - she talked, so she must have been alive.

It appears to me that Aunt Janet is protecting Kate and Gerry with that statement and putting the blame on Madeleine! They talk about her as if she were an eight year old rather than a three year old. I have a grandaughter that is almost the age that Madeleine was when she disappeared. She is clearly way behind Madeleine in intellect and wordly ways! In my opinion, it either DID happen or it didn't and Kate is making it up. I don't believe for one minute that Madeleine made it up as Janet is suggesting.

Aunt Janet is playing the black face while Kate the white face.
It's a black and white thing the police use all the time to trip people up. I
n this case Maddie is not around to defend herself or to answer hence they can say what they want to paint kate whiter than white while at the same time validate kate's fabrication.

Rainbow fairy wrote today:
After all, this poster uses Kate's bewk as 'evidence', disregarding all that has gone before.. unquote

Tut, tut Rainbow Fairy, it is evidence for the prosecution! Exhibit A!

tigger wrote:Rainbow fairy wrote today:
After all, this poster uses Kate's bewk as 'evidence', disregarding all that has gone before.. unquote

Tut, tut Rainbow Fairy, it is evidence for the prosecution! Exhibit A!

Soorryy! *holds hand out for rapped knuckles*
Yep, Goncalo did say it may be evidence 'let us wait'
So, Mrs McCann, in this video you say you NEVER physically searched for your daughter, yet here, in Exhibit A (your novel) you state you did. Which is correct, and can we ever believe a word you say?'
And
'Here again, Mrs McCann, exhibits B and C, 'Look' poster and video 'Look into My Eyes', with a very noticeable coloboma. Yet in your novel, Exhibit A, you state it was 'a barely noticeable fleck'. Both cannot be true, so which, if either, is?'
Can you imagine it?

[Bingo, tigger! It.Did.Not.Happen... considering the bewk is called 'Madeleine' and she was supposedly so articulate, she didn't say a lot on the holiday, did she? In fact, who was Madeleine? She reads like a ghost from another era, two-dimensional, no substance.
Incidentally, no lie I have tried EIGHT TIMES to reply to Merrymo's last post, is forumotion trying to tell me something? Eg "rainbow-fairy, you are wasting your time..."
After all, this poster uses Kate's bewk as 'evidence', disregarding all that has gone before... Does anyone have a link to the 'Kate admits she NEVER physically searched for Madeleine' youtube? IIRC, Kate clearly stated that she NEVER physically searched for Madeleine, not just that night but EVER'. Merrymo has us believe that they DID search the following morning - more backfitting after the taxi driver spoke out about seeing a couple out and about who upon seeing his lights jumped into an alleyway. I firmly believe this WAS Gerry and Kate, not searching for a live Maddie though - more checking things hadn't been found?[/quote]

I have indeed read KM's book, also Amarals, also the witness files. It is from those three sources that I mainly form my opinions on this case.

In the video the Interviewer speaks exclusively of the 'Locals' searching for Maddie. I presume most of them did not know what had happened until the next day - and it is from that time onwards that they gave up their time to search. Kate response is in that same context, referring to the same specific timescale which was AFTER the time that she and GM searched and also after the time that the Hotel staff searched. The hotel staff searching is not mentioned in the interview either - do we assume from that that it didn't happen? Of course we dont. Kate's response to the question 'did she not feel she wanted to be out their searching' was ....... ''I mean.... I did'' . Does that mean ''I did search'' or does that mean 'I did feel that way''. We have no way of knowing. She makes no secret of the fact that after that first search they did not search again themselves but nowhere does she say 'We NEVER searched'.

IMO after the first couple of day when they were mainly giving interviews to the police, they KNEW that the local area was being thoroughly searched. In that knowledge their main concern IMo was regarding Maddie being taken out of the country. They were being told nothing, except that 'no media' was allowed. That must have been very alarming. I understand that attempts to post photos of Maddie at the airport were stopped by the police. Apart from the massive language barrier the McCanns had no knowledge of the Portuguese procedures when a child went missing. They were putting their efforts into doing whatever they could to ensure that measures were being taken to prevent their child being taken out of the country. I see nothing wrong in that. .Apparently they received several phone calls from UK MPs, I would not have simply been asking for their help I would have been begging for it.

Once the Press arrived then IMO physically searching themselves would have been out of the question. You can't do much searching with a microphone being pushed in your face every few yards. Any attempt would have been a complete waste of time. IMO

Trauma, shock, distress, anxiety, grief is dealt with in different ways by different people. .. It is already documented that not all parents who have had children abducted searched for them themselves. Some were not physically or mentally able to - even though they were in their own country, did speak the language and knew the area. There is no right way or wrong way to cope or react - unless your name is McCann apparently - and then whatever you do will be wrong.